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post #211 of 573
Thanks for the measurements and yes I meant the multi-format fixed screen.
post #212 of 573
Ok, forgive me if this question is dumb but I am a novice at this but I am getting ready to take the jump into the Home Theater realm.

If I am looking at the picture of these screens correctly it seem the multi-format screens are masking from the top and bottom but from every demo I've seen, when changing from 16:9 to 2:35, it happens from the sides. Am I missing something? With these screens are you using an anamorphic lens. Please set me straight. Thanks,

Mike
post #213 of 573
When you watch a movie in 2.35:1 on a 16:9 screen, you get the black letterbox bars on the top and the bottom of the picture. So, these screens do mask the top and bottom.

Are you thinking of standard definition TV? That is 4:3 and will give letterbox bars on the sides.
post #214 of 573
Sly,
1st - Thanks for getting back to me

2nd - No, I'm not talking about viewing 4:3 content, but I was confused. When you go to see these eloborate demos at the stores and they talk about screen masking, they have thes elaborate systems that curtain or cover up the extra length of the screens when viewing a 4:3 -> 16:9 on a 2:35 screen. The height doesn't change as much. I guess there is a fair amount of zoom to get rid of the black bars well. (I guess using the projector functionality along with the anamorphic lens accomplishes that)

I guess these screens just hide the black bars? No lens needed?
post #215 of 573
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Originally Posted by Mkwillia View Post

Sly,
1st - Thanks for getting back to me

2nd - No, I'm not talking about viewing 4:3 content, but I was confused. When you go to see these eloborate demos at the stores and they talk about screen masking, they have thes elaborate systems that curtain or cover up the extra length of the screens when viewing a 4:3 -> 16:9 on a 2:35 screen. The height doesn't change as much. I guess there is a fair amount of zoom to get rid of the black bars well. (I guess using the projector functionality along with the anamorphic lens accomplishes that)

I guess these screens just hide the black bars? No lens needed?

Yes, this screen is designed for a projector without an anamorphic lens. The demos that you must have seen are a "constant height" setup with an anamorphic lens. That kind of setup can be VERY expensive with some lenses costing over $10 grand.

The Monoprice multi format screen masks the black bars that you see with letterbox (2.35:1) material on a standard 16:9 projected image. It really make the image pop without the added expense. The width stays the same, the height of the the image changes and the black bars are masked. No need to zoom or do anything with the projector. Super easy to use.

I'm really enjoying mine!
post #216 of 573
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Originally Posted by Mkwillia View Post

Sly,
1st - Thanks for getting back to me

2nd - No, I'm not talking about viewing 4:3 content, but I was confused. When you go to see these eloborate demos at the stores and they talk about screen masking, they have thes elaborate systems that curtain or cover up the extra length of the screens when viewing a 4:3 -> 16:9 on a 2:35 screen. The height doesn't change as much. I guess there is a fair amount of zoom to get rid of the black bars well. (I guess using the projector functionality along with the anamorphic lens accomplishes that)

I guess these screens just hide the black bars? No lens needed?

LOL - what you are describing sounds so fancy . . . I have never seen one. Just as well, this way I don't have to wish I could afford it.
post #217 of 573
I have seen one and its sexy lol.. has masking bars top and bottom as well as left and right. All remote controled. Belive the one I saw was in the 6 to 8k range. But really nice.
post #218 of 573
I will be taking delivery of the tab-tensioned 106" screen today. It will mate with the Epson 8350 I installed on Wednesday. I'm really excited to see how it performs. My first projector setup. It already looks amazing on my flat tan wall. Can't wait to see it on a screen.

Anyone else have a tab-tensioned screen? How do you like it?
post #219 of 573
i got the 133" fixed frame grey one and I love it. I have it paired with an Epson 8345
post #220 of 573
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Originally Posted by JamesVG81 View Post

I think I'm going to have to wait till the 106 comes in stock. I belive the 120 will be to big for my 20x12 room. Sitting 10 feet back on the front row.

You and I have the exact same setup almost.

My room is 19.5' L x 14' W with seating at 18' and 10.5'

I'm scared to put at 120" in with that close of front row seating. I'm afraid it will be too big for the brain to interpret, and then even worse with 3D because the glasses frames will cover part of the image from being too close.

This will be paired with my new Panny AE7000U.

Thoughts/opinions are welcome!
post #221 of 573
When I was setting my room up, I used painters masking tape and laid out the screen dimensions on the bare wall and projected the image on the bare wall to those dimensions to make sure I liked the image size. Of course, you could do the same with just a tape measure and skip the masking tape, but for me it was helpful to visualize and plan everything.

Put up a 120" image and try it @10'. Personally, I think it is overload, but you may like it.
post #222 of 573
I just purchased and installed the 120" multi-format white (7969). I came from a Dalite model C pulldown, and I am really pleased with the resulting improvements. I want to thank mbroder and rakstr for helping me make the decision.
post #223 of 573
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Originally Posted by ockevin View Post

I just purchased and installed the 120" multi-format white (7969). I came from a Dalite model C pulldown, and I am really pleased with the resulting improvements. I want to thank mbroder and rakstr for helping me make the decision.

Awesome! Glad to help. You should do a full review. It's always good to see multiple opinions.
post #224 of 573
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Originally Posted by ockevin View Post

I just purchased and installed the 120" multi-format white (7969). I came from a Dalite model C pulldown, and I am really pleased with the resulting improvements. I want to thank mbroder and rakstr for helping me make the decision.

I should be getting the same screen this Wednesday. I can't wait.
post #225 of 573
Here is my experience. Assembly was pretty easy. I had read comments about the lack of good instructions, so I was careful to line up and attach the adjustable masking pieces at the appropriate time. A friend and myself completed assembly in under 2 hours. I noticed that the packaging had left some imprints in the material. I did some research and found that shooting some steam at it from a distance and then brushing the material removed these imprints. It took about an hour to get the mounting brackets hung straight, and then it was up.
I had never been bothered by the waves in my previous pull down, but now I see the difference in having a truly flat screen. It appears brighter, though both materials were rated about 1.0 gain. I believe that is from the larger, light absorbing borders. The adjustable masks make all the difference in the world on cinema aspect ratio material, and I would highly recommend to anyone considering. All hail Monoprice.
post #226 of 573
Thanks for sharing your experience. Sounds like another happy customer.
post #227 of 573
Got my screen today. I will post a full review when I get in front of my computer. My initial reaction is a thumbs up!
LL
post #228 of 573
The 106" is always OOS. Is that really many people buying?
post #229 of 573
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Originally Posted by Droid6 View Post

Got my screen today. I will post a full review when I get in front of my computer. My initial reaction is a thumbs up!

Cool.
post #230 of 573
I had planned on getting the 106 inch but since I have my projector. I'm shooting a 120 inch sized image on the wall and love it. Can't wait to see how the image looks with masking.
post #231 of 573
I promised a review so here it is.

I'll start with the installation. The box came UPS freight but to avoid waiting until after the holiday weekend to receive it I went to the freight center and picked it up on Wednesday and the box was in good condition when I received it. The box was about 10' long and barely fit in my mini-van but after shuffling the kids around and angling it just right I got it in with the hatch shut. The box and all its contents weighed about 100lb. but I think the packaging itself weighed 30-40lb. by itself so the screen after assembly, while still pretty heavy, doesn't weigh 100lb. The install was pretty straight forward and easy (although as noted by everyone else there is a step that is pretty vague that may cause a little trouble if you skip it). I had a few issues that I would consider to be negatives about installation: The first is when I was putting everything together a screw fell out of the top and bottom of the screen where the masking material is stored. I'm going to assume that the were probably dropped in there during factory assembly because they look like the same screws from another part of the frame and there doesn't seem to be any issues with the masking system. The second issue I had was the metal poles that you route through the screen to connect it to the frame with springs were a little long and overlapped which like the first issue is just a minor annoyance and doesn't seem to affect the performance of the screen. The third issue I had was with the mounting system. I don't mind the screen being a few inches off the wall but my projector was already mounted for a screen that was nearly flush with the wall. The problem I had was that I didn't leave a lot of play for zooming with my projector and was on the very edge of having to move my projector to compensate for the screen being ~3" closer to the projector.

Now I'll talk about the performance of the screen. I've played the screen shuffle for the last few months and figured I was just too poor to have a nice screen. I started with a 92" Elite Cinewhite screen that I had for about 6 months before (oddly enough) my wife said it was too small. I started the hunt and decided to go with a Favi 120" electric screen. I got it and I couldn't live with the uneven brightness from the waves and impressions from being rolled and unrolled so it went back to Amazon. So next I went with a 120" Elite Cinewhite screen but that thing was a sparkly hot-spotting POS. Back it went. So now I was a little depressed about my choices at $300 so I decided to bite the bullet and spend some more money. I started looking for screens that wouldn't hot-spot and the cheapest I could find was ~$1300 which made me feel more depressed and poor. The Mono-price screen was always on the radar but I was nervous about the screen material because of the experience I had with the Elite and Favi but after giving up on getting a good screen material i just decided at least I'd have a sweet masking system if I went with the Mono-price. So why the paragraph about my experience with crappy screens and the resulting depression that almost sent me into a spiral of picketing outside businesses of anyone more monetarily successful than me? So you know I have a point of reference when I give an opinion on the screen material of course.

I'm happy to report that the screen material performs very well. There is no hot-spotting or sparkles at all and with an all black image projected the image looks evenly lit. The texture of the screen isn't glass flat but I can't complain about the sharpness of the image. The masking system works great. Although there is a method to pulling it up and latching it, it goes up smooth and nearly effortlessly. Having the nice wide masking around all edges cannot be understated either. This screen makes me feel like I finally have a true home theater.

I rate this screen:

Price: A
Performance: B+
Performance for the price (value): A+

I'll post pictures and calibration settings someday. Shoot any questions you have and I'll answer them the best I can.
post #232 of 573
Too bad they don't ship screens to Canada...
post #233 of 573
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Originally Posted by psgcdn View Post

Too bad they don't ship screens to Canada...

Grandview, the company that manufactures these screens is in Canada. Look them up and give them a call.
post #234 of 573
Thanks for the review Droid - good information. I started doing the prep work today for switching my screen out, but it will be another week before I am ready to order it.
post #235 of 573
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Originally Posted by ockevin View Post

I just purchased and installed the 120" multi-format white (7969). I came from a Dalite model C pulldown, and I am really pleased with the resulting improvements. I want to thank mbroder and rakstr for helping me make the decision.

What kind of Dalite did you 'upgrade' from? Was it a high power? I have a 119" high power pulldown and it's great... except for one big annoyance: waves . I'm thinking about getting a 120" multi-format Monoprice white, but wondering about brightness. Going from a 2.4 gain to a 1.0 gain, umm, I don't know. I have the Optoma HD33 PJ and watch quite a bit of 3D, so that's my concern.

Also, with regard to the masking, does it accomodate for 2.35:1 max? or 2.40:1? or more... like 'Ben Hur' 2.76:1?
post #236 of 573
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Originally Posted by Brajesh View Post

What kind of Dalite did you 'upgrade' from? Was it a high power? I have a 119" high power pulldown and it's great... except for one big annoyance: waves . I'm thinking about getting a 120" multi-format Monoprice white, but wondering about brightness. Going from a 2.4 gain to a 1.0 gain, umm, I don't know. I have the Optoma HD33 PJ and watch quite a bit of 3D, so that's my concern.

Also, with regard to the masking, does it accomodate for 2.35:1 max? or 2.40:1? or more... like 'Ben Hur' 2.76:1?

I'm not sure about 2.76:1, but the masks will definitely extend farther than 2.35:1. You just need to add some more hooks to attach the mask.
post #237 of 573
Could anyone who already got the multi-format screen please scan and post the manual so I could get an idea of the assembly?
post #238 of 573
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Originally Posted by Droid6 View Post

I promised a review so here it is.

I'll start with the installation. The box came UPS freight but to avoid waiting until after the holiday weekend to receive it I went to the freight center and picked it up on Wednesday and the box was in good condition when I received it. The box was about 10' long and barely fit in my mini-van but after shuffling the kids around and angling it just right I got it in with the hatch shut. The box and all its contents weighed about 100lb. but I think the packaging itself weighed 30-40lb. by itself so the screen after assembly, while still pretty heavy, doesn't weigh 100lb. The install was pretty straight forward and easy (although as noted by everyone else there is a step that is pretty vague that may cause a little trouble if you skip it). I had a few issues that I would consider to be negatives about installation: The first is when I was putting everything together a screw fell out of the top and bottom of the screen where the masking material is stored. I'm going to assume that the were probably dropped in there during factory assembly because they look like the same screws from another part of the frame and there doesn't seem to be any issues with the masking system. The second issue I had was the metal poles that you route through the screen to connect it to the frame with springs were a little long and overlapped which like the first issue is just a minor annoyance and doesn't seem to affect the performance of the screen. The third issue I had was with the mounting system. I don't mind the screen being a few inches off the wall but my projector was already mounted for a screen that was nearly flush with the wall. The problem I had was that I didn't leave a lot of play for zooming with my projector and was on the very edge of having to move my projector to compensate for the screen being ~3" closer to the projector.

Now I'll talk about the performance of the screen. I've played the screen shuffle for the last few months and figured I was just too poor to have a nice screen. I started with a 92" Elite Cinewhite screen that I had for about 6 months before (oddly enough) my wife said it was too small. I started the hunt and decided to go with a Favi 120" electric screen. I got it and I couldn't live with the uneven brightness from the waves and impressions from being rolled and unrolled so it went back to Amazon. So next I went with a 120" Elite Cinewhite screen but that thing was a sparkly hot-spotting POS. Back it went. So now I was a little depressed about my choices at $300 so I decided to bite the bullet and spend some more money. I started looking for screens that wouldn't hot-spot and the cheapest I could find was ~$1300 which made me feel more depressed and poor. The Mono-price screen was always on the radar but I was nervous about the screen material because of the experience I had with the Elite and Favi but after giving up on getting a good screen material i just decided at least I'd have a sweet masking system if I went with the Mono-price. So why the paragraph about my experience with crappy screens and the resulting depression that almost sent me into a spiral of picketing outside businesses of anyone more monetarily successful than me? So you know I have a point of reference when I give an opinion on the screen material of course.

I'm happy to report that the screen material performs very well. There is no hot-spotting or sparkles at all and with an all black image projected the image looks evenly lit. The texture of the screen isn't glass flat but I can't complain about the sharpness of the image. The masking system works great. Although there is a method to pulling it up and latching it, it goes up smooth and nearly effortlessly. Having the nice wide masking around all edges cannot be understated either. This screen makes me feel like I finally have a true home theater.

I rate this screen:

Price: A
Performance: B+
Performance for the price (value): A+

I'll post pictures and calibration settings someday. Shoot any questions you have and I'll answer them the best I can.

Nice review Droid.

I myself have been eyeing the monoprice screen 133in matte grey for over 6 months now. I'm just scared to pull the trigger just because it's 'monoprice'. I can get a Elite screen from a different website for only $200 more but still being cheap here about getting the monoprice instead. Reading this thread is gearing me towards getting it. I've been using the wall for 6 months. As you can see, i'm not in a rush to buy. Just waiting for the right price and right screen.
post #239 of 573
Brajesh,

I came from matte white. I have never been a fan of high power due to the limited viewing cone. I understand your concern in loss of brightness. I will say this screen appears brighter than dalite matte white. I believe the wider, light absorbing border helps a lot on that. In addition the effect the masking has on cinematic material is profound, and as has been stated, one could add additional hooks to go beyond 2.35:1.
post #240 of 573
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Originally Posted by greddy09sc View Post

Nice review Droid.

I myself have been eyeing the monoprice screen 133in matte grey for over 6 months now. I'm just scared to pull the trigger just because it's 'monoprice'. I can get a Elite screen from a different website for only $200 more but still being cheap here about getting the monoprice instead. Reading this thread is gearing me towards getting it. I've been using the wall for 6 months. As you can see, i'm not in a rush to buy. Just waiting for the right price and right screen.

I know of two different places that have stopped carrying Elite screens because of quality issues with their fixed frame screens. Both still sell Grandview screens and love them. If monoprice's screens are made by Grandview screens I wouldn't be scared to pull the trigger on one. I have a 112" Grandview shipping with my JVC RS45 as soon as it's ready to go.
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