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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
Hi everyone,
Im looking for hd camcorder to use during my fishing trips...
We gonna put it on a tripod and run it from the mains ( so not really worried about battery life)I need about 60gb hard drive space for long time shooting.
So I dont really need any fancy functions Im not goona use at the end(maybe with an option for led lamp for night shooting)
Budget?around 700

Cheers

Tom
post #2 of 19
I did not catch the drive size, but while at Best Buy today, I saw this small KodaK camcorder that was water proof. think it was $49.
post #3 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your answear but I'm after something else than 49$ camcorder
Hard drive Im looking for is 60gb or bigger...

Cheers
Tom
post #4 of 19
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Originally Posted by tom8815 View Post

Thanks for your answear but I'm after something else than 49$ camcorder
Hard drive Im looking for is 60gb or bigger...

Cheers
Tom

get something sdxc compatible with 64gb sdxc card? possibility at least. or two 32gb with dual slots, or one slot and switch one.

all i am really saying is, focus on the camcorder, then work the memory out, imo
post #5 of 19
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Originally Posted by tom8815 View Post

Thanks for your answear but I'm after something else than 49$ camcorder
Hard drive Im looking for is 60gb or bigger...

Cheers
Tom


Knowing what your budget is is important. I can suggest several awesome camcorders in the $7k range for example. So knowing what the budget is is important.
Also do you need good low light capability or are you just doing this in broad daylight? If fly fishing that woulkd consitute dawn and dusk which would be low light.
Also you do know if you use SDHC cards you will have a limit of 4GB files and then you will have to manually join them. You'd have to check about HDD's I think if it's NTFS you would be ok, but FAT32 format might limit you to 4GB files.
Something to consider.
post #6 of 19
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Originally Posted by Steve Cebu View Post

Knowing what your budget is is important. I can suggest several awesome camcorders in the $7k range for example. So knowing what the budget is is important.
Also do you need good low light capability or are you just doing this in broad daylight? If fly fishing that woulkd consitute dawn and dusk which would be low light.
Also you do know if you use SDHC cards you will have a limit of 4GB files and then you will have to manually join them. You'd have to check about HDD's I think if it's NTFS you would be ok, but FAT32 format might limit you to 4GB files.
Something to consider.

Post 1 said that his budget is 700 dollars.
post #7 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your answer guys.

What you think about:
Sony HDR-XR200V 120GB HDD
Sony HDR-XR155E 120GB HDD
not that big difference between them( I think so as Im not an expert).

And yes,we gonna shoot in low light but we will have another source of light around our rods to make the view more clearly.

cheers
post #8 of 19
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Originally Posted by workinghard View Post

Post 1 said that his budget is 700 dollars.


Ak ok sorry I missed that, I went and looked there was no $ sign.
post #9 of 19
Thread Starter 
Any opinions about these sony camcorders guys?
I had a look in forum but just want to know if they're ok for what I need them for?

Thanks
post #10 of 19
EDIT-EDIT: I am no pro, just a regular consumer that spent some time researching. Most of the nuances between the following models are highly debatable, and much is beyond me. But I have a firm grasp of most of the basics at this point.

EDIT: IMHO, to pay 800 plus dollars on camcorders with that kind of small sensor is totally idiotic. 1/5inch is not at all worth it. I am not saying this to be mean, but its a ridiculous decision, which I want to make clear. Not anything personal against you, I started out in the same boat. I am something of a Pany fan now (hey 299 for 3mos, who wouldnt be?) but, this is a terrible decision to make, if you want quality video.


As you read the site, focus on sensor size/video performance/low light. That is the key difference between those camcorders and what you should be looking at with an 850 dollar budget.

However, dont even consider something with less than 1/2.3 inch sensor for that budget man. 120GB hard drive is NOT worth crappy video. Especially not when you can get the memory WITH much better video for the same basic prices. Some examples to look into will follow.


In addition,

What kind of computer do you have? Have you ever worked with AVCHD before? 4 hours of straight AVCHD on a weaker (relative to idea. for these types of files) computer would be a real problem to deal with.

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But, since you are starting off on the wrong foot, I will list some models you might want to consider looking at:



-The Sony 550 series, some have had for approx 700-800, though I have not seen such deals myself.

-Panasonic TM700/750 are excellent camcorders, the same camcorders also have an HS Series which has hard drives, and the new 2011 base models will be in your price range.

-Canon M40 series just released, out soon. The 2010 series have received good reviews but, IMHO, Given the M40 has such (apparently) significantly improved low light, your application, and your budget, you should focus on it over the 2010 series. Well worth the extra cost, imo.
post #11 of 19
You may want to consider the following camcorders:

$700 Canon VIXIA HF M32 - HD camcorder with 64GB flash memory - LINK
+FREE 8GB Memory Card and Camcorder Bag

$400 Canon VIXIA HF M31 - **SCRATCH & DENT / USED** HD camcorder with 32GB flash memory - LINK

Both camcorders take SD or SDHC memory cards for added storage.
post #12 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks for your answer workinghard. I dont mind paying less and I also dont mind camcorder with less GB.Thats why I posted my questions here to get yours( pros ) opinions.
I'll definitly look into models you mentioned.

I got standart compter- acer aspire one and I've never worked with avchd files before...

Thanks again guys
post #13 of 19
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Originally Posted by tom8815 View Post

Any opinions about these sony camcorders guys?
I had a look in forum but just want to know if they're ok for what I need them for?

Thanks

I do not know about the Sony models you listed, but I just bought the Sony HDR-CX550V and the Sony HDR-CX150 to replace my old trusty Canon HG10.
I am very happy with the Sony brand, both Sony Camcorders are quality and work very well.
post #14 of 19
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Originally Posted by tom8815 View Post
Thanks for your answer workinghard. I dont mind paying less and I also dont mind camcorder with less GB.Thats why I posted my questions here to get yours( pros ) opinions.
I'll definitly look into models you mentioned.

I got standart compter- acer aspire one and I've never worked with avchd files before...

Thanks again guys
Sorry, I messed up, scratch the sony 300 series, focus on the 500 and other camcorders. Forgot it was a 1/4 inch sensor also. For your budget, you should focus on higher quality than that, imo.

I will tell you, I think they work hard to confuse people with these camcorders. Also, I am no pro, so take my imos with a grain of salt.

Check out camcorderinfo.com. But remember, when they say a camcorder is good for its class, that class distinction is critical to understanding their evaluation. Also, they are not perfect, so dont stop with them, just start with them.
post #15 of 19
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Originally Posted by tom8815 View Post

Thanks for your answer workinghard. I dont mind paying less and I also dont mind camcorder with less GB.Thats why I posted my questions here to get yours( pros ) opinions.
I'll definitly look into models you mentioned.

I got standart compter- acer aspire one and I've never worked with avchd files before...

Thanks again guys

If you plan on sending some of your videos to say You Tube you will need to convert the AVCHD files to AVI for files to be able to upload them.

Unless you are viewing your movies on a HD TV having the largeHD AVCHD files won't gain you much.
post #16 of 19
^Why do you need to convert? YouTube accepts AVCHD directly.
post #17 of 19
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Originally Posted by tingham View Post

^Why do you need to convert? YouTube accepts AVCHD directly.

Since YouTube will change the AVCHD file you upload anyway to save space on their server.
Why spend your time uploading a big file, just to have You Tube degrade your super HD video.
post #18 of 19
Given your budget the decision is a little bit more tricky than just saying "this is the one." But for pure auto, just a camcorder, and if you can hook this up to the mains without a problem, I say this is the one with a couple of 32GB, which you will manually have to switch out. Although if you film in 1080p60, you will only get 2hr 40 minutes or so in 32GB. If you have to raise to 64GB cards, that would really run the price up and make other options more reasonable, so...still come options out there at your price point, but def a contender.

http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-HDC-...8317657&sr=8-1
post #19 of 19
Thread Starter 
Thanks for another options guys.I really like Panasonic HDC-SD600K...
I'm not gonna send movies to youtube,just for me and friends to view on laptops or burn a cd.

Could you tell me what would be a quality of a movie in HE mode(1920 x 1080i)?About 27hours of recording time in that mode so would be perfect for my needs...

Thanks

Tom
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