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post #481 of 1001
6/21/11 at 5:55pm
The grey in choice number 2 will look great with a sage green color!
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post #482 of 1001
6/21/11 at 7:32pm
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Thanks guys I knew I could count on you all. I decided (atleast until the estimate comes in tomorrow)to go with #2 for all the reasons you mentioned as well as the fact that I originally wanted a "pattern" in there and I did not want to regret it later.

Next question is this. I had the guy measure/estimate for #2 for everything including the stage (which I havent shown you yet) and the riser (which I showed a glance of). Do you think it will look ok/good with this pattern on everything or should I be considering a solid black for the stage and/or riser??
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post #483 of 1001
6/21/11 at 9:56pm
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had the guy measure/estimate for #2 for everything including the stage (which I havent shown you yet) and the riser (which I showed a glance of). Do you think it will look ok/good with this pattern on everything or should I be considering a solid black for the stage and/or riser??

I think #2 floor with all black stage would look really classy. The stage would match the chairs, columns and ceiling, and the grey/black pattern would tie in with the sage walls and bring everything together. Nice!
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post #484 of 1001
6/21/11 at 10:18pm
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I think #2 floor with all black stage would look really classy. The stage would match the chairs, columns and ceiling, and the grey/black pattern would tie in with the sage walls and bring everything together. Nice!

+1 on all black stage - if I was going to do mine over, I might do that as well, for some contrast.
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post #485 of 1001
6/22/11 at 2:02am
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+1 on all black stage - if I was going to do mine over, I might do that as well, for some contrast.

+2

If you're going with the pattern, then the all black stage would look really nice.

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RTROSE
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post #486 of 1001
6/22/11 at 2:23am
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The only problem is I havent found a solid black that is the same carpet or close to the pattern one. The berber (choice #1) I dont think will wrap well over the stage.
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post #487 of 1001
6/22/11 at 5:39am
Having the stage wrapped with all black is a nice idea, because it gives you that solid black hole look for your screen wall, but you gotta be careful mixing blacks....If you cant find the exact carpet as #2 without the patter, I'd probably pass. You could probably get away with it if you had a medium pile or shag carpet, but the patterns in berber are usually pretty unique and i could see it clashing pretty easily.

If you can find a good match though Id say do the riser and floor in #2 and go for all black on the stage, but if not, i dont think its any great loss.

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I guess the only other option i could see if #2 on the floor and riser and if you want all black on the stage and cant find a good match you could experiment with some alternate textures like plush or shag carpet.
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post #488 of 1001
6/22/11 at 12:39pm
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Just got the quote from the "carpet guy" and I must say that I am a little floored (no pun intended) at the cost for everything.

It breaks down to 56.66 yards of carpet with pad and install for a total of $1800. OUCH!!! This includes carpeting the riser and stage as well as the 2 attache closets. My first question is what is everyones opinion? Going in I had no knowledge or opinion of carpet or its cost. Does this seem high or about right? (Note the carpet is $22/yd or however they sell it)
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post #489 of 1001
6/22/11 at 1:02pm
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Just got the quote from the "carpet guy" and I must say that I am a little floored (no pun intended) at the cost for everything.

It breaks down to 56.66 yards of carpet with pad and install for a total of $1800. OUCH!!! This includes carpeting the riser and stage as well as the 2 attache closets. My first question is what is everyones opinion? Going in I had no knowledge or opinion of carpet or its cost. Does this seem high or about right? (Note the carpet is $22/yd or however they sell it)

I've never had carpet put in for myself, but id think thats in the ball park. If I'm doing the math right, about about 70% of the cost is in the carpet and pad, then another 30% for install. That seem pretty reasonable to me. A friend of mine just had carpet put in their upstairs, im not sure sure how pricey the carpet was but it was on the plus side of 2 grand to do it and their upstairs is not very big.
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post #490 of 1001
6/22/11 at 1:14pm
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Just got the quote from the "carpet guy" and I must say that I am a little floored (no pun intended) at the cost for everything.

It breaks down to 56.66 yards of carpet with pad and install for a total of $1800. OUCH!!! This includes carpeting the riser and stage as well as the 2 attache closets. My first question is what is everyones opinion? Going in I had no knowledge or opinion of carpet or its cost. Does this seem high or about right? (Note the carpet is $22/yd or however they sell it)

My brother in law does that for a living in Anderson. Not sure how far out you are from there, but if you wanted I could get his info for you to get another quote.

Also something he relayed to me about carpet. Get the best pad you can afford. A good pad can help your carpet last longer and stay looking better (this includes the cheap stuff) so if your getting decent carpet make sure you dont skimp on the pad or your taking years off the wear and tear of the carpet.
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post #491 of 1001
6/22/11 at 1:15pm
Almost exactly what I paid, don't recall how many yards, but probably similar. Seems like they gave you a good price on the carpet price, and then made up for it with the pad/install - whereas mine was sort of all inclusive pricing.

It definitely seems like it has gone up quite a bit in the last few years.
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post #492 of 1001
6/22/11 at 1:19pm
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Also something he relayed to me about carpet. Get the best pad you can afford. A good pad can help your carpet last longer and stay looking better (this includes the cheap stuff) so if your getting decent carpet make sure you dont skimp on the pad or your taking years off the wear and tear of the carpet.

+1 I've been told that as well.
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post #493 of 1001
6/22/11 at 1:23pm
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+1 I've been told that as well.

Let me put it this way. He put the most expensive pad he could into his daughters room, along with a mid grade carpet. When guys in the industry put their money where their mouth is, I will tend to follow suit
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post #494 of 1001
6/22/11 at 2:35pm
+2 regarding the pad EXCEPT for the plastic wrapped pad that is supposed to prevent spills and messes from reaching the subfloor. That pad is a gimmick.

Regarding the price I think that you are pretty much in line with the 1800.00. Does not seem out of line, I'll grant you that it is expensive, but I don't think your getting soaked or taken advantage of.

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RTROSE
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post #495 of 1001
6/22/11 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by Iusteve View Post

Just got the quote from the "carpet guy" and I must say that I am a little floored (no pun intended) at the cost for everything.

It breaks down to 56.66 yards of carpet with pad and install for a total of $1800. OUCH!!! This includes carpeting the riser and stage as well as the 2 attache closets. My first question is what is everyones opinion? Going in I had no knowledge or opinion of carpet or its cost. Does this seem high or about right? (Note the carpet is $22/yd or however they sell it)

Sounds fair - especially knowing that he will be including your stage and riser.
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post #496 of 1001
6/22/11 at 5:32pm
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Thanks guys for ALL the valuable input. Its funny this thread was a ghost town until I mentioned the word "carpet" then you all came slithering out of the woodwork. And I thought RT wast the only certified carpet counselor 'round these parts?!?!

I suppose I was caught a little off guard with his final quote because when we first stopped in the store and I told him the "rough" dimensions of the room he ballparked it about $1250 but that was without him knowing about either closet, the riser or the stage. So with all that added I suppose another $550 isnt bad?!?!

On a side note he did find another all black sample in house that I "may" be able to use for the stage. If it in fact works with the pattern I chose and the blacks play well together then that is what I will do but if I cant find a solid black that works with this pattern and its color then I will be forced to use the same pattern carpet for all surfaces including the stage. Do you guys think this will be ok and/or look bad?
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post #497 of 1001
6/22/11 at 5:40pm
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Originally Posted by Iusteve View Post

Its funny this thread was a ghost town until I mentioned the word "carpet" then you all came slithering out of the woodwork.

That's because you gave us an easy question: better 1/ better 2?
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post #498 of 1001
6/22/11 at 7:41pm
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if I cant find a solid black that works with this pattern and its color then I will be forced to use the same pattern carpet for all surfaces including the stage. Do you guys think this will be ok and/or look bad?

I think it will be fine - after all, since mine is the same carpet on the stage, I'm not supposed to say it looks bad.
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post #499 of 1001
6/22/11 at 9:01pm
Oh, all of the others may say they are qualified to counsel on carpet matters, however I am the only CERTIFIED (or is that certifiable) Carpet Counselor. So the others input matters little.

Actually, I would be proud to have anyone of the guys who have given input here on your carpet conundrum on my team. They would do well.

Again for what you are having done I don't think the price is out of line.

Brad's theater is so nice and simply looks very classy, and since his "works" so well I think you could follow his lead, use the same carpet and be very happy.

Earlier it was mentioned about how the different blacks might look together which is a excellent point, if you use the same carpet then that issue is moot.

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #500 of 1001
6/25/11 at 5:21am
Knock, Knock......Is this thing on? Where did everyone go?

Bueller?.........Bueller?.......Bueller?


Regards,

RTROSE
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post #501 of 1001
6/25/11 at 6:48am
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You called???

Ok ok ok I get it! I am here. After much debate back and forth over all the carpet samples I finally decided and pulled the trigger on pattern #2. While it was not the blackest of the bunch it had just enough detail to it that it will work very well with the wall color and still pull the column and screen wall fabric together with the ceiling color. I also referred straight to the comment regarding black seats and didnt want them to blend together too much. So I ordered the carpet today and it will be in next week sometime. Install is scheduled for Thursday July 7th!! YIPPEEEE CARPET!!!!!!!!!!

This all means that I have a CRAP load of loose ends to tie up in there including finishing the dricore and get all the tapcons in. Getting the stage and riser complete and secured.. Getting all the paint up and complete (green paint doesnt play well with black carpet) and getting all the door casings painted black as well. And maybe getting all the electrical wired up and complete. Am I missing anything? I think I can do columns and screen wall after carpet is in?? Cant I??? Lol

Any advice/suggestions or comments regarding something I need to make sure to get done or that I forgot PLEASE help me as its all a jumble right now.
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post #502 of 1001
6/26/11 at 8:48am
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So in a timely fashion I have a "short" list of items to get done before the carpet install. I need input regarding anything that I may have forgot.

1)Finish dricore
2)Paint ceiling/walls
3)Finish riser
4)Finish stage
5)Electrical? (maybe)
6)Install and trim rack
7)Install and trim DVD storage rack in closet
8)???

These are the things that I can think of. If you can possibly think of anything else please chime in.

I am planning 4 columns (2 on the sides and 2 in the rear) for speakers but havent even started them let alone decided on how I am going to build them. I assume I can do this after the carpet is in but would really like to see what others may suggest for design as I am drawing a huge blank on them.
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post #503 of 1001
6/26/11 at 8:55am
Definitely try to get anything involving mess (paint, drywall dust, sawdust) out of the way before carpet - although you're bound to forget something, but not a big deal as long as it isn't large scale messy stuff.
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post #504 of 1001
6/26/11 at 9:31am
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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post

Definitely try to get anything involving mess (paint, drywall dust, sawdust) out of the way before carpet - although you're bound to forget something, but not a big deal as long as it isn't large scale messy stuff.

+1

On your bullet list looks like you have all of the major "dirty stuff" taken care of. As Brad says even if you forget something you can do it after carpet is installed as long as you take precautions to protect your new investment.

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #505 of 1001
6/26/11 at 10:17am
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Do I need or want to install any of the door trim or baseboard trim prior? Or after??
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post #506 of 1001
6/26/11 at 11:46am
I think most carpet installers can do it either way. I did carpet first (1) because I didn't want the carpet installers mangling my trim; and (2) because I hadn't installed my fabric wall panels first. If you do carpet first, just let them know to plan for the baseboards - the carpet tack strip is set back from the wall a bit, and the baseboards clamp the edge of the carpet down behind it, locking it onto the strip.
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post #507 of 1001
6/26/11 at 1:31pm
^^^^^

Yup, what he said. I have done it both ways. (Baseboards ya sickos!) I actually prefer to put the trim in first then have the carpet installed. I have yet to have my carpet installers mess up my trim so bad that I could not fix it with a little caulk and trim paint. I would have to fill holes anyway after putting the trim up anyway so you are going to have to do some touch up anyway. 6 of one half dozen of another Tomato, Tamato, Potato, patato, pish posh.

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #508 of 1001
6/26/11 at 4:14pm
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I think I am going to wait on baseboards as I am unsure on column design. As for the door casing should I do this before or does it again not matter either way? I just wasnt sure if the side casing should sit "down on" the carpet or if the carpet went "up to" the casing?
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post #509 of 1001
6/26/11 at 5:45pm
I guess I might wait on it too, just so when you install the casing, the bottoms line up nicely with the baseboards - probably not a big deal either way though, but we do like to obsess on these kind of things, at least I know I do - got stuck at times thinking maybe a bit too hard about what to do next. I guess better to overthink than underthink though, I certainly wouldn't want to have to paint the ceiling after the carpet was in, for example.
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post #510 of 1001
6/26/11 at 6:42pm
If your waiting on the baseboards, might as well wait to do the door casings as well. Why not. I'm with you on the obsessing thing. I don't know how many times I went downstairs and just looked at things to noodle through things. My wife would come down and heckle me a little and say "It's not going to get done by just staring at it", she did not realize that it actually did get done by me staring at it. I know you two understand completely what I mean by that statement.

Regards,

RTROSE
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