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post #841 of 1001
2/6/12 at 9:35am
Completed theaters are so overrated.

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post #842 of 1001
2/6/12 at 10:57am
Imagine the folly of someone looking on THIS forum for "Finished" builds. This forum is the place for build in a perpetual state of building/tweaking.

Don't you know that a theater is never truly "Finished", rather it ends up being in a state of "Evolution".

Silly boy!

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RTROSE
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post #843 of 1001
2/6/12 at 5:17pm
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Did someone say "finished" theater????????


Apparently he doesn't know me. I am the KING of unfinished. I am the same guy that prior to "finishing" theater version 1.0 I was already drawing up plans and putting up walls for theater version 2.0. The same guy that prior to finishing my bar side of the basement (still not "finished")have been drawing up plans to make some "changes" to the bar.......I my friend will NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER call my work "finished".
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post #844 of 1001
2/12/12 at 3:45pm
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Did someone say "finished" theater????????


Apparently he doesn't know me. I am the KING of unfinished. I am the same guy that prior to "finishing" theater version 1.0 I was already drawing up plans and putting up walls for theater version 2.0. The same guy that prior to finishing my bar side of the basement (still not "finished")have been drawing up plans to make some "changes" to the bar.......I my friend will NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, EVER call my work "finished".


Speaking of which, I'm in the same boat, I will never totally be "finished", but I can say I'm done. In theater building there is a distinct difference between "done" and "finished" for us they DO NOT mean the same thing.

While we are at it, any updates? What are you thinking with regards to the bar?

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #845 of 1001
2/14/12 at 9:20am
Awsome HT. Speakers look insane
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post #846 of 1001
2/22/12 at 3:53pm
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Thank you ^.

No updates here as I have been sidetracked once again by the mrs. We just purchased new bedroom furniture last week (you know the kind that all matches and goes together? I like to call it "grown up" furniture)and with this update I know am redoing part of our walk in closet with the addition of some floor to ceiling shelves. With this "sidetrack" I have to focus my attention on this or face sleeping on my a pile of clothes (on hangers) that take up half our bedroom. This project shouldn't be very time consuming so hopefully I will be back to finish the HT in no time. I still need to decide on seating which is something I have been mulling over for the past 8-12 months to no avail. Ugggh!! I really dread this decision because none of my choices make me 100% satisfied........anyway that's it for now.
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post #847 of 1001
2/22/12 at 4:50pm
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Thank you ^.

No updates here as I have been sidetracked once again by the mrs. We just purchased new bedroom furniture last week (you know the kind that all matches and goes together? I like to call it "grown up" furniture)and with this update I know am redoing part of our walk in closet with the addition of some floor to ceiling shelves. With this "sidetrack" I have to focus my attention on this or face sleeping on my a pile of clothes (on hangers) that take up half our bedroom. This project shouldn't be very time consuming so hopefully I will be back to finish the HT in no time. I still need to decide on seating which is something I have been mulling over for the past 8-12 months to no avail. Ugggh!! I really dread this decision because none of my choices make me 100% satisfied........anyway that's it for now.


I'm with ya on the seating, I had several different thought processes I went through before I actually committed to the seats I bought. I feel your pain. Even though I had a long time to think about it when if finally came to the point where I had to do something it was nerve wracking wondering if I had gone the right direction. Now that my seats are here I can tell you that I am completely happy with my decision. Maybe I should now seek my official theater seating counselor certification.

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RTROSE
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post #848 of 1001
2/22/12 at 6:15pm
For me seats was nothing compared to CARPET !!
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post #849 of 1001
2/22/12 at 6:34pm
Steve, good luck with the closet project, those can be a bear. At least you made it past the wall color decision, that was a tough one for me.
If you need a hand don't hesitate to give me a call, I'm always up for a good project!

Dave
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post #850 of 1001
3/18/12 at 2:06pm
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(shameless bump face)
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post #851 of 1001
3/18/12 at 7:04pm
Instead of bumping your own thread just to bump it, is there not anything you can report for progress? Surely there is something going on there at the Iusteve's castle worthy of reporting on.

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RTROSE
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post #852 of 1001
3/20/12 at 1:00pm
If it's any consolation we started about the same time and you are way farther along than I am.

And this is hilarious, I may have to use this as my new signature, giving you credit of course -

"So I have a few not so interesting pictures of progress for the 3 people that are still following whatever it is I am trying to accomplish here."
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post #853 of 1001
3/20/12 at 1:45pm
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^ Don't think that I am "really" farther along than you, look at it as this is my 2nd theater build/build thread so I am more experienced than I was in the first build and build thread. I have really hit a lull as of late. I have been building some built ins for our master closet which was going smoothly until the weather hit "summer" here in northern Indiana which is when I started garage overhaul version 2.0. This consisted of gutting the garage and building a second work bench which is 16' long as well as suspended storage shelves above it which are also 16' long. This has turned into something REALLY bad as I have crap EVERYWHERE!!! Did I say I need a "shed" which takes me to the realization of why EVERY theater/bar build thread is intercepted with an emergency shed build...........may have to partake in that SOON!!! Let me sum it up this way.....we moved in here 6 years ago.......since then I have built a round deck around our entire 24' above ground pool which connects to our existing deck that I resurfaced, then I took on my bar build, then theater v-1.0, then master bathroom makeover, then theater build 2.0 and now here I am and this entire time that garage has become the "catch all" for every tool, bit of scrap material, leftover parts and pieces etc. So one can only imagine the mess that is out there...........and this is why I have yet to get back to the theater. The sad part is I am SO close to completion I can taste it. Oh and did I mention at this rate with our weather I will need to start to work on opening our pool soon too......................................................... .......
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post #854 of 1001
3/20/12 at 2:06pm
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THEATER RELATED TOPIC ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!

So in helping me overcome the current "theater related" hurdle I turn to you fellow theater brethren. Today's topic.........SEATING!!! I have narrowed it down to 3 choices so pay attention.

Choice #1 and #2 will require me to build an additional riser to sit on top of the smaller one that I have to raise them up to see over row 1. I would more than likely build just a "box" to sit these on and be done. Choice #3 comes in a "stadium row" build where the back row is 7" higher which I would not need to build a riser so they would be set it and forget it seats. Choice #1 and #2 are power recline and #3 is manual recline (not a big deal to me). Choice #1 is the cheapest, #2 is $100 more/per seat and #3 is in between the 2.

Choice #1



Choice #2



Choice #3



^This image is the "stadium row" and you can see the base is taller than a standard base. The back 3 chairs would look like this.

Again Choice #1 and #2 are power recline but both require me to build an additional riser which would not be able to be carpeted to match the rest of the carpet and would also more than likely ruin the carpet that is already on the short riser and it would get smashed over time.

Choice #3 is manual recline but would not require an additional riser.

Choice #2 is the most expensive @ $100 more per chair over #1 and about $60/per chair over #3.

Help??
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post #855 of 1001
3/20/12 at 5:52pm
#1 looks the most comfortable.
#2 looks the coolest.
#3 seems the most practical in your situation and still looks good.
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post #856 of 1001
3/21/12 at 4:51pm
I thought you had already solved this dilemma? Second thoughts now on what you want to do?

I agree with Jonny on all accounts. I have written off the carpet under the riser I'm going to build so I think that just comes with the territory. However #3 would actually make the most sense in your situation and it is the most reasonably priced as well.

The built in riser with the chairs, will it be high enough to do what you need? That might be the deal breaker if they are not high enough and then you would need to build a riser anyway. I needed a lot higher riser than I actually thought I would need.

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #857 of 1001
3/21/12 at 5:08pm
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Actually RT I originally built a small riser (roughly 4 1/2-5") with #3 in mind. They come with a 7" rise which brings my total to 11 1/2-12" over the front row. The "second thoughts" come in to play with the other 2 chairs being better build quality, both are power recline and both come with a nice warranty. Choice #3 is from an "internet/fleabay store" and though they have 100% positive feedback I am still hesitant to spend this kind of $$ from an "internet store". The first 2 are Roman's new Fusion line and as you may/may not know his reputation on AVS is remarkable. That alone lures me to one of his chairs, the negative (and only negative I see)is I would have to build a "box" for the chairs to sit on that would sit on the already carpeted riser to raise the seats the additional 6-7". The carpet cost us $2k so replacing/ripping it out are not an option .
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post #858 of 1001
3/21/12 at 6:21pm
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Actually RT I originally built a small riser (roughly 4 1/2-5") with #3 in mind. They come with a 7" rise which brings my total to 11 1/2-12" over the front row. The "second thoughts" come in to play with the other 2 chairs being better build quality, both are power recline and both come with a nice warranty. Choice #3 is from an "internet/fleabay store" and though they have 100% positive feedback I am still hesitant to spend this kind of $$ from an "internet store". The first 2 are Roman's new Fusion line and as you may/may not know his reputation on AVS is remarkable. That alone lures me to one of his chairs, the negative (and only negative I see)is I would have to build a "box" for the chairs to sit on that would sit on the already carpeted riser to raise the seats the additional 6-7". The carpet cost us $2k so replacing/ripping it out are not an option .

I am well aware of Roman's rep here and that alone might be what draws you to the other two options. I was not suggesting that you replace or rip out the carpet just that if you build a riser over the top of it, the area where the riser is might not be salvageable should you ever want to re-purpose the room in v3.0. I like the look of #3, but they are simple looking, not a bad thing just the others are visually more interesting. I think as we have discussed before building the "little risers" for the other chairs won't be that big of an issue.

I think just plain ole "piece of mind" in dealing with Roman would be worth the extra cost of the other chairs.

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #859 of 1001
3/21/12 at 7:06pm
I vote for #2

a) because it costs more, and everyone knows that if it costs more its better
b) you'll have to do more work, so it will slow you down, and that makes me happy

j/k actually based on looks alone, I'd have to say #3 - but I like power recline
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post #860 of 1001
3/21/12 at 7:41pm
Steve,

At first I was thinking to suggest option #3 but once you mentioned Roman was involved with the others, I quickly changed my mind.

I actually do like the looks of #1 and they sure do look extremely comfortable.
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post #861 of 1001
3/21/12 at 7:54pm
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I vote for #2

a) because it costs more, and everyone knows that if it costs more its better
b) you'll have to do more work, so it will slow you down, and that makes me happy

j/k actually based on looks alone, I'd have to say #3 - but I like power recline

I like #2 also, probably for the same reasons Brad stated.
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post #862 of 1001
3/21/12 at 8:21pm
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I like #2 also, probably for the same reasons Brad stated.


Oh, now come on fellas! Sheesh really? Just cause it costs more means it's better? Well then I have a BOSE Lifestyle system I want to sell to both of you! I'll make you a great deal and it costs more than any other system here on AVS! Means it's WAY better than everything else!

Sorry could not resist. In all honesty there is a cost to quality and there is no "cheap" way around that.

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RTROSE
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post #863 of 1001
3/21/12 at 8:22pm
I also sell audiophile grade speaker cables
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post #864 of 1001
3/21/12 at 8:48pm
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I also sell audiophile grade speaker cables

Hold the phone...let's not take it that far... "audiophile grade speaker cable and bose"???
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post #865 of 1001
3/21/12 at 8:48pm
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I also sell audiophile grade speaker cables


If it is these I'm in. Where do I sign, or will you take the Bose in on a trade? They are ONLY 21k for 3m but that is for the pair.

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RTROSE
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post #866 of 1001
3/22/12 at 2:27am
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I am well aware of Roman's rep here and that alone might be what draws you to the other two options. I was not suggesting that you replace or rip out the carpet just that if you build a riser over the top of it, the area where the riser is might not be salvageable should you ever want to re-purpose the room in v3.0. I like the look of #3, but they are simple looking, not a bad thing just the others are visually more interesting. I think as we have discussed before building the "little risers" for the other chairs won't be that big of an issue.

I think just plain ole "piece of mind" in dealing with Roman would be worth the extra cost of the other chairs.

Regards,

RTROSE

I wonder since my carpet is a lower pile if a small step riser would do much damage (if any) to the carpet under it? Yes I am sure it would smash it down some but would it completely destroy it.....? Personally #2 is my front runner because 1)it's the most "different" and 2)they are Roman's.

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Originally Posted by Brad Horstkotte View Post

I vote for #2

a) because it costs more, and everyone knows that if it costs more its better
b) you'll have to do more work, so it will slow you down, and that makes me happy

j/k actually based on looks alone, I'd have to say #3 - but I like power recline

You know I would expect nothing less my friend, living in Cali has taught you that things "should" cost more. Why #3? Care to elaborate??

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Steve,

At first I was thinking to suggest option #3 but once you mentioned Roman was involved with the others, I quickly changed my mind.

I actually do like the looks of #1 and they sure do look extremely comfortable.

Actually #2 is a "better built" chair over #1 per Roman. It also has tray tables and "in arm" storage......

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I like #2 also, probably for the same reasons Brad stated.

Why in the world does everyone want to spend MY money???? I suppose that is the AVS way....visit another thread and convince them to spend MORE. We are all doing our part to stimulate the economy . In reality I like #2 the most as it is just a little different than your "standard" theater chair but I just hate to build a riser and more importantly don't want to ruin the carpet underneath.
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post #867 of 1001
3/22/12 at 7:20am
Well I just look at the carpet like this. Whenever Mrs. RTROSE does her semi annual feng shui there are usually outlines of the framing of the furniture that takes some time for the carpet to spring back. My experience is that shorter pile carpets are more likely to take longer to spring back. It is the pad too that you have to consider as it is what really supports the carpet and extends its life so it is a double whammy especially with heavy furniture like book cases, and whatnot. Theater chairs might not be too awful bad. You could also put down a OSB or plywood square directly under the frame to spread out the weight of the chairs which would really help distribute the weight.

Just some food for thought.

Regards,

RTROSE
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post #868 of 1001
3/22/12 at 8:37am
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I also thought about building this separate riser and attach those round oversized "bun" type feet to the bottom so that they would be holding the weight like a couch. Opinions? Our do you think a "flat" bottom (plywood) would be better? I considered the feet with the thinking less structure on the carpet the better.........
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post #869 of 1001
3/22/12 at 2:09pm
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Something like these:

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post #870 of 1001
3/22/12 at 2:18pm
Actually you want as much contact with the carpet as possible to disperse the weight of the riser over a larger surface area. If you use those bun feet then all of the weight will be concentrated onto a few very small points. By putting a piece of plywood or OSB all across the bottom of the frame you have effectively dispersed the weight over the entire size of the riser. That means less weight at each contact point with the carpet and thus less of an indent.
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