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post #1111 of 1871
12/6/12 at 6:18am
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I think I'm going to take a page out of your book and place two transducers so each one can shake two chairs. One will be where the left and center seats join, and one will be where the right and center seats join (the center main lp effectively getting one half on each side.
That would be fantastic. I was not prepared for what I experienced. I think if Craig had a camera he would have captured my holy crap that was awesome face eek.gif.
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post #1112 of 1871
12/6/12 at 7:10am
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Yes sir! They seem to be quite effective!

I have to admit never seen/felt in action
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post #1113 of 1871
12/6/12 at 7:22am
Frank, the transducers add another layer to the entire experience. Check out my thread and look at post 471. That about sums it for me. They are not distracting at all. They pull you into the movie even more. All the movies I have watched have benefited from having them.
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post #1114 of 1871
12/6/12 at 10:46am
Matt,

I have Ghost Rider 2, Inception, Clash of thé Titans 1 & 2, Sherlock Holmes : A game of Shadows, Battleship, Crank and the Departed, that's all for now!

I have the same feeling concerning the steelbook, they do look, feel better and do have a better printing imho
Edited by aldiallo - 12/6/12 at 11:29am
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post #1115 of 1871
12/6/12 at 12:25pm
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Thanks for the link....well, looks like I found my amp! Lol. Now, I must ask...what are the benefits of setting delays for a bass transducer? I had no idea that was a factor and definitely want optimal performance.
The sound from the subs and the shaking from the shakers should be timed properly. Depending on how they're connected, there could be different latencies of the signal sent to the sub's vs. the signal sent to the shakers. (The Bass Management can cause some latency as can the processing in the sub itself, (LPF's, HPF's, phase controls, etc.) The shaker is a more direct connection, especially if you connect the way I do right out of the Oppo BDP. The signal will get to the shaker earlier than the signal gets to the subwoofer. You don't want to "feel" shaking before you "hear" sound. That would be unnatural and gimmicky. You want to feel the shaking at the same time, (or maybe slightly delayed), from the sound. The iNUKE has a DSP based delay control that can be used to delay the signal to get them timed better.

I am currently using the subwoofer Distance setting in my Oppo to set the delay, but that is less precise than the delay in the iNUKE. I've made it work in my system, and in MikeDuke's system, but if I were to start over, I would go with the INUKE. It's even cheaper than the Buttkicker amp.
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I think I'm going to take a page out of your book and place two transducers so each one can shake two chairs. One will be where the left and center seats join, and one will be where the right and center seats join (the center main lp effectively getting one half on each side.
Another amp to consider is the Crowson amp, which can do "stereo" shaking. I haven't tried that, but Randy Crowson tells me it works:
http://www.crowsontech.com/go/crowsontech/3485/en-US/DesktopDefault.aspx
It's a more expensive option however. In addition, I LPF my Crowsons at 40 Hz. I doubt there is much "stereo" content below 40 Hz, so I doubt you would realize much actual "stereo" motion. Nonetheless, it's out there.

Good luck.

Craig
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post #1116 of 1871
12/6/12 at 12:26pm
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

That would be fantastic. I was not prepared for what I experienced. I think if Craig had a camera he would have captured my holy crap that was awesome face eek.gif.
Yeah, your reaction the first time you experienced the Crowson was priceless. In fact, I couldn't get you out of the chair. I never did sit in it to see how it was set. The look on your face told me everything I needed to know. smile.gif

Craig
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post #1117 of 1871
12/6/12 at 1:00pm
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I'm from Queens, NY and will always be a Giants fan! (Jets?...not so much.) There was a lot of hype down here in DC about Monday's Giants v. Redskins game, so of course I've been rooting alone for my team down here. We didn't do so well on Monday though

Ah, so you're unconverted. I still want the Titans to do well, personally, so i'm not fully converted either. While "RG3" makes it sound as if he escaped from a Star Wars movie, Robert Griffin III has really made a difference for the Redskins. They're dangerous. Plus, the Giants have a rough schedule these last four games.

As for the Jets, they really look good on my plasma. Otherwise, not so much. I also prefer the way players wore their uniforms in the old days. Many guys don't even wear knee pads. Come on!
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post #1118 of 1871
12/6/12 at 1:01pm
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

Yeah, your reaction the first time you experienced the Crowson was priceless. In fact, I couldn't get you out of the chair. I never did sit in it to see how it was set. The look on your face told me everything I needed to know. smile.gif
Craig
I know. You could not pry my butt out of that chair. I think last time I went to your place so maybe next time, after the holidays, you guys(you and Dennis) can swing by and spend the afternoon. I will let the two of you fight out who gets the chair. I think that I have it set up just right now.
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post #1119 of 1871
12/6/12 at 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

The sound from the subs and the shaking from the shakers should be timed properly. Depending on how they're connected, there could be different latencies of the signal sent to the sub's vs. the signal sent to the shakers. (The Bass Management can cause some latency as can the processing in the sub itself, (LPF's, HPF's, phase controls, etc.) The shaker is a more direct connection, especially if you connect the way I do right out of the Oppo BDP. The signal will get to the shaker earlier than the signal gets to the subwoofer. You don't want to "feel" shaking before you "hear" sound. That would be unnatural and gimmicky. You want to feel the shaking at the same time, (or maybe slightly delayed), from the sound. The iNUKE has a DSP based delay control that can be used to delay the signal to get them timed better.
I am currently using the subwoofer Distance setting in my Oppo to set the delay, but that is less precise than the delay in the iNUKE. I've made it work in my system, and in MikeDuke's system, but if I were to start over, I would go with the INUKE. It's even cheaper than the Buttkicker amp.
Another amp to consider is the Crowson amp, which can do "stereo" shaking. I haven't tried that, but Randy Crowson tells me it works:
http://www.crowsontech.com/go/crowsontech/3485/en-US/DesktopDefault.aspx
It's a more expensive option however. In addition, I LPF my Crowsons at 40 Hz. I doubt there is much "stereo" content below 40 Hz, so I doubt you would realize much actual "stereo" motion. Nonetheless, it's out there.
Good luck.
Craig

I was reading your post about using the Oppo's sw output and I couldnt believe how ingenious that was! I use quite a few other sources though, so I may be stuck with one of my processor's sw outputs w/ a "y" cable.

I most definitely will be using the delay feature, as aligning the user receipt times is extremely important. Speaking of delay.....I tried increasing the sub distance settings a few weeks ago, but the measurements began to get worse with each foot in distance. Is that normal?
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Yeah, your reaction the first time you experienced the Crowson was priceless. In fact, I couldn't get you out of the chair. I never did sit in it to see how it was set. The look on your face told me everything I needed to know. smile.gif
Craig

I look forward to having the same face that Mike did once I hit "buy" biggrin.gif
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Ah, so you're unconverted. I still want the Titans to do well, personally, so i'm not fully converted either. While "RG3" makes it sound as if he escaped from a Star Wars movie, Robert Griffin III has really made a difference for the Redskins. They're dangerous. Plus, the Giants have a rough schedule these last four games.
As for the Jets, they really look good on my plasma. Otherwise, not so much. I also prefer the way players wore their uniforms in the old days. Many guys don't even wear knee pads. Come on!

Lolllll @ the jets looking good on your plasma and nowhere else. Lol.....man, if AVS had a "post of the week, " I'd definitely would have submitted that sentence.
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post #1120 of 1871
12/6/12 at 5:45pm
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I was reading your post about using the Oppo's sw output and I couldnt believe how ingenious that was! I use quite a few other sources though, so I may be stuck with one of my processor's sw outputs w/ a "y" cable.
I understand the desire to use the transducer with multiple sources. I have had to give that up the way I currently have the system set up. However, the only other input I use a lot is the CATV box. When I'm watching TV, I don't really care about the tactile response. Occasionally, when the wife and I watch a "Pay Per View" movie, I'll switch the Crowson over so it's on the processor's SW output. I can always tell that the tactile response is "different" than it is when hooked directly to the Oppo. .

I have had a Crowson transducer in my system for years, and I was always somewhat dissatisfied with the results... until I hooked it up to the analog subwoofer output of my Oppo. Suddenly the output of the transducer "matched" the sonic output of the subs. It was timed right and it had the same "impact" across the whole frequency range. This was related to the better timing of the shaker and to elimination of Audyssey Room Correction from the signal. I find the benefits of this arrangement to outweigh the downsides, and I don't plan to go back to using a Y'd subwoofer output for he signal. However, that iNUKE amp might change my mind.

The Crowson is cool because you can "feel" the difference between a 40 Hz shake, a 20 Hz shake and a 5 Hz shake. This came through much more noticeably with the current setup than it did before with the Crowson getting the same signal as the subs.
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Speaking of delay.....I tried increasing the sub distance settings a few weeks ago, but the measurements began to get worse with each foot in distance. Is that normal?
If Audyssey got the Distance right, it's definitely possible that changing it would make the response worse. How good was the initial response? If it was flat through the crossover region, then adjusting the Distance won't help.
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post #1121 of 1871
12/6/12 at 6:43pm
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

I understand the desire to use the transducer with multiple sources. I have had to give that up the way I currently have the system set up. However, the only other input I use a lot is the CATV box. When I'm watching TV, I don't really care about the tactile response. Occasionally, when the wife and I watch a "Pay Per View" movie, I'll switch the Crowson over so it's on the processor's SW output. I can always tell that the tactile response is "different" than it is when hooked directly to the Oppo. .
I have had a Crowson transducer in my system for years, and I was always somewhat dissatisfied with the results... until I hooked it up to the analog subwoofer output of my Oppo. Suddenly the output of the transducer "matched" the sonic output of the subs. It was timed right and it had the same "impact" across the whole frequency range. This was related to the better timing of the shaker and to elimination of Audyssey Room Correction from the signal. I find the benefits of this arrangement to outweigh the downsides, and I don't plan to go back to using a Y'd subwoofer output for he signal. However, that iNUKE amp might change my mind.
The Crowson is cool because you can "feel" the difference between a 40 Hz shake, a 20 Hz shake and a 5 Hz shake. This came through much more noticeably with the current setup than it did before with the Crowson getting the same signal as the subs.
If Audyssey got the Distance right, it's definitely possible that changing it would make the response worse. How good was the initial response? If it was flat through the crossover region, then adjusting the Distance won't help.

Ah, so I shall have to choose between accuracy and range of applicability...that's a tough choice. Down the line, maybe I'll get two separate amp+crowson transducer systems-one for blu ray, and one for all other sources (TV, Xbox, PS3, Apple TV, and Computer Games) Man, I just checked under my seats to figure out placement--my gosh, I'm going to need one Crowson Transducer per seat. The armrests render the sharing of one transducer between seats impossible. mad.gif
The cost of 3 transducers (and the estimated $100 in isolation discs) interferes with my RS56 upgrade plan in a big way, Hmmm.....I have much to ponder in regards to my priorities.

Ah yes, the initial measured response was very flat . I shouldn't mess with the distance settings at all.
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post #1122 of 1871
12/6/12 at 7:26pm
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Ah, so I shall have to choose between accuracy and range of applicability...that's a tough choice. Down the line, maybe I'll get two separate amp+crowson transducer systems-one for blu ray, and one for all other sources (TV, Xbox, PS3, Apple TV, and Computer Games) Man, I just checked under my seats to figure out placement--my gosh, I'm going to need one Crowson Transducer per seat. The armrests render the sharing of one transducer between seats impossible. mad.gif
The cost of 3 transducers (and the estimated $100 in isolation discs) interferes with my RS56 upgrade plan in a big way, Hmmm.....I have much to ponder in regards to my priorities.
The upgrade from the RS-45 to the RS-56 would be, IMO, a significant but incremental upgrade.

OTOH, adding tactile response to your system would be, IMO, a much more monumental and beneficial improvement. The "WOW" factor of tactile response is about 10X the "wow" factor of the incremental improvement in the video.

But, hey... that's just me. wink.gif

Craig
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post #1123 of 1871
12/7/12 at 3:29am
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The upgrade from the RS-45 to the RS-56 would be, IMO, a significant but incremental upgrade.
OTOH, adding tactile response to your system would be, IMO, a much more monumental and beneficial improvement. The "WOW" factor of tactile response is about 10X the "wow" factor of the incremental improvement in the video.
But, hey... that's just me. wink.gif
Craig

Hmmmm...perhaps the RS4810 with 3 Crowson Transducers will suffice. Actually, it should more than suffice. Together, both are still cheaper than the RS56, and I still get eShift2, which is the real upgrade impetus (I already use lumagen's superior CMS for calibration).

Let the pre-purchase self-rationalization begin!
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post #1124 of 1871
12/7/12 at 9:55pm
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

Frank, the transducers add another layer to the entire experience. Check out my thread and look at post 471. That about sums it for me. They are not distracting at all. They pull you into the movie even more. All the movies I have watched have benefited from having them.

Thanks Mike ill have a look.
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post #1125 of 1871
12/8/12 at 8:37am
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I thought it might be interesting to show the evolution of the room over the last few years:

September 2006


May 2009 (Before my discovery of AVS Forum)


November 2009 (After my discovery of AVS Forum)


February 2011 (I discovered Separates)


November 2012 (Finally, a Dedicated Room)


To be a Home Theater enthusiast is to embark on a journey with no destination, It's all about the ride cool.gif
Edited by BrolicBeast - 12/8/12 at 8:48am
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post #1126 of 1871
12/8/12 at 10:39am
Very cool, thanks for sharing! cool.gif
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post #1127 of 1871
12/8/12 at 12:28pm
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Very cool, thanks for sharing! cool.gif

Thanks Kahuna "800D" Canuck! BTW--your gear is insane. Classe's and B&W's are quite possible the best possible amp/speaker combination in existence, due to their long history of synergy and testing-symbiosis.
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post #1128 of 1871
12/11/12 at 4:31am
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Guys, if you have not yet experienced the demo discs from Scubasteve and Superleo, you owe it to yourselves to try them both. Simply amazing...
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post #1129 of 1871
12/11/12 at 5:01am
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Guys, if you have not yet experienced the demo discs from Scubasteve and Superleo, you owe it to yourselves to try them both. Simply amazing...

Scubasteve and Superleo is that a movie Matt ?
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post #1130 of 1871
12/11/12 at 5:44am
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Scubasteve and Superleo is that a movie Matt ?

Sorry, I wrote that as I was walking into the office and it is incredible vague.

Scubasteve and Superleo both created HD Demo discs with popular clips from various Blu Rays that showcase different HT strengths. There’s a Bass section, containing clips that showcase bass (i.e. How To Train Your Dragon “crash” scene, Tron etc. there’s a visual demo section for pristine Blu Ray files….if you have an Oppo, then you don’t even need to burn the disc—you can play right from a USB Hard disk drive, networked drive, or—as in my case—a USB flash drive.

Here is Superleo’s: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1391873/reference-blu-ray-demo-disc-bd9-dvd-dl-media-bd50

Here is Scubasteve’s: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1283375/home-theater-demo-disc-version-2-0

I used a program called uTorrent to complete the downloads.
For Superleo’s file/disc, you’ll also need a program called 7-zip.

It takes a little leg-work to get these, but my gosh—they are worth it. Where else can I go from the Plane crash in Knowing to the Plane crash in Flight of the Phoenix to the surround sound bliss of the Book of Eli howitzer scene all in a few minutes without swapping discs? These are both perfect demos and are in DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby True HD where appropriate. Superleo’s is 100% 1080p as well.

Those of us with capable subs like Submersives and JL Fathoms will absolutely love these for the audio alone. Anyone in the DC area is welcome to swing by and copy the files from me (They are 48GB and 36 GB respectively)
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post #1131 of 1871
12/13/12 at 5:36am
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Sorry, I wrote that as I was walking into the office and it is incredible vague.
Scubasteve and Superleo both created HD Demo discs with popular clips from various Blu Rays that showcase different HT strengths. There’s a Bass section, containing clips that showcase bass (i.e. How To Train Your Dragon “crash” scene, Tron etc. there’s a visual demo section for pristine Blu Ray files….if you have an Oppo, then you don’t even need to burn the disc—you can play right from a USB Hard disk drive, networked drive, or—as in my case—a USB flash drive.
Here is Superleo’s: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1391873/reference-blu-ray-demo-disc-bd9-dvd-dl-media-bd50
Here is Scubasteve’s: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1283375/home-theater-demo-disc-version-2-0
I used a program called uTorrent to complete the downloads.
For Superleo’s file/disc, you’ll also need a program called 7-zip.
It takes a little leg-work to get these, but my gosh—they are worth it. Where else can I go from the Plane crash in Knowing to the Plane crash in Flight of the Phoenix to the surround sound bliss of the Book of Eli howitzer scene all in a few minutes without swapping discs? These are both perfect demos and are in DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby True HD where appropriate. Superleo’s is 100% 1080p as well.
Those of us with capable subs like Submersives and JL Fathoms will absolutely love these for the audio alone. Anyone in the DC area is welcome to swing by and copy the files from me (They are 48GB and 36 GB respectively)

Thanks Matt will have a look into it.
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post #1132 of 1871
12/14/12 at 6:57am
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To all Oppo 103/105 owners: you can now get the MHL-enabled Roku Streaming Stick (MSRP: $99) from Oppo for only $49.....this is amazing, as now HBO Go, Hulu Plus, and a bevy of other roku streaming services can be accessed through the Oppo! You have to provide your Oppo's serial # to get the half-price Roku stick.

I'm going to get two: one for my BDP 103 and.....one for my BDP-105 that I haven't had a chance to open yet. biggrin.gif (It's a busy time of year!)
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post #1133 of 1871
12/14/12 at 9:34am
Congrats on the 105 Matt, I'm curious on your thoughts between the 103 and 105.
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post #1134 of 1871
12/14/12 at 9:42am
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Congrats on the 105 Matt, I'm curious on your thoughts between the 103 and 105.

Thanks Frank. I got it earlier in the month, but haven't got around to setting it up. I'm probably going to stack it on top of the 103 and do direct tests with the USB Dac and some other features. I will be sure to post the results in either written or video form.
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post #1135 of 1871
12/14/12 at 10:05am
I am still rockin the OPPO 83 tongue.gif. It suits my needs well enough and I was really impressed with how it sounded compared to my older, much more expensive cd player. Any reason for havin the 103 and 105? Does one do somethings the other does not. Congrats though. Your system is certainly drool worthy and I still love that video of your entire system. I have watched it more than one time.
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post #1136 of 1871
12/14/12 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

To all Oppo 103/105 owners: you can now get the MHL-enabled Roku Streaming Stick (MSRP: $99) from Oppo for only $49.....this is amazing, as now HBO Go, Hulu Plus, and a bevy of other roku streaming services can be accessed through the Oppo! You have to provide your Oppo's serial # to get the half-price Roku stick.
I'm going to get two: one for my BDP 103 and.....one for my BDP-105 that I haven't had a chance to open yet. biggrin.gif (It's a busy time of year!)

I received that email too. Just wondering if it's worth it. I don't do much streaming. Plus I already pay enough for satellite service. Not sure I want to subscribe to watch streamed shows via Amazon, Hulu, etc. Something to think about.
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post #1137 of 1871
12/14/12 at 1:24pm
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

I am still rockin the OPPO 83 tongue.gif. It suits my needs well enough and I was really impressed with how it sounded compared to my older, much more expensive cd player. Any reason for havin the 103 and 105? Does one do somethings the other does not. Congrats though. Your system is certainly drool worthy and I still love that video of your entire system. I have watched it more than one time.

Thanks Mike. You and your treatment advice were instrumental in putting the room together. The 105 has a few more features that I plan to take advantage of that aren't in the 103, the most significant of which is the usb DAC. Initially, I was just going to get another 103 for the media room, but the feature list and future applicability In a dedicated listening room (in 10 years it will still be a superb disc and file player) caused me to take the leap when I got the early release email from Oppo.

Edit: I gave my bdp-83 to Lady Brolic, and she jams to staples of audiophilia like Diana Krall on a regular basis. What a great gal biggrin.gif
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I received that email too. Just wondering if it's worth it. I don't do much streaming. Plus I already pay enough for satellite service. Not sure I want to subscribe to watch streamed shows via Amazon, Hulu, etc. Something to think about.

Hey man, I was in the same boat earlier this year until I tried the free Hulu Plus trial on my xbox 360. Access to current shows in HD for 8 dollars a month is so worth it. The device's ability to play HBO Go is alone worth it. If you have a HBO subscription, HBO Go gives you free access to every HBO show and movie ever aired. Game of Thrones, The Wire, Boardwalk Empire, Oz, the list goes on man. The roku stick just took my xbox 360's lunch money. Lol.
Edited by BrolicBeast - 12/14/12 at 2:00pm
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post #1138 of 1871
12/14/12 at 3:37pm
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Thanks Mike. You and your treatment advice were instrumental in putting the room together. The 105 has a few more features that I plan to take advantage of that aren't in the 103, the most significant of which is the usb DAC. Initially, I was just going to get another 103 for the media room, but the feature list and future applicability In a dedicated listening room (in 10 years it will still be a superb disc and file player) caused me to take the leap when I got the early release email from Oppo.
Edit: I gave my bdp-83 to Lady Brolic, and she jams to staples of audiophilia like Diana Krall on a regular basis. What a great gal biggrin.gif
No problem on the treatments. Again, glad my input helped you get more out of your system. It was a big deal for me because my room is so small and I was affraid that it look overwhelming. Well it does not and I am sure glad I did it. Got you on the 105. Like I said, for my needs the 83 works fine. So Cats are next right smile.gif. I am looking out for any new video you put online.
P.S I did not know about the copy right thing and playing audio in your video. Interesting. Anyway, my next audio move will be to move away from disks and get a server based system. Won't be for awhile but it will make my life a lot easier. Keep on enjpying that great room.
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post #1139 of 1871
12/14/12 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Thanks Mike. You and your treatment advice were instrumental in putting the room together. The 105 has a few more features that I plan to take advantage of that aren't in the 103, the most significant of which is the usb DAC. Initially, I was just going to get another 103 for the media room, but the feature list and future applicability In a dedicated listening room (in 10 years it will still be a superb disc and file player) caused me to take the leap when I got the early release email from Oppo.
Edit: I gave my bdp-83 to Lady Brolic, and she jams to staples of audiophilia like Diana Krall on a regular basis. What a great gal biggrin.gif
No problem on the treatments. Again, glad my input helped you get more out of your system. It was a big deal for me because my room is so small and I was affraid that it look overwhelming. Well it does not and I am sure glad I did it. Got you on the 105. Like I said, for my needs the 83 works fine. So Cats are next right smile.gif. I am looking out for any new video you put online.
P.S I did not know about the copy right thing and playing audio in your video. Interesting. Anyway, my next audio move will be to move away from disks and get a server based system. Won't be for awhile but it will make my life a lot easier. Keep on enjpying that great room.
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post #1140 of 1871
12/14/12 at 3:37pm
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Thanks Mike. You and your treatment advice were instrumental in putting the room together. The 105 has a few more features that I plan to take advantage of that aren't in the 103, the most significant of which is the usb DAC. Initially, I was just going to get another 103 for the media room, but the feature list and future applicability In a dedicated listening room (in 10 years it will still be a superb disc and file player) caused me to take the leap when I got the early release email from Oppo.
Edit: I gave my bdp-83 to Lady Brolic, and she jams to staples of audiophilia like Diana Krall on a regular basis. What a great gal biggrin.gif
No problem on the treatments. Again, glad my input helped you get more out of your system. It was a big deal for me because my room is so small and I was affraid that it look overwhelming. Well it does not and I am sure glad I did it. Got you on the 105. Like I said, for my needs the 83 works fine. So Cats are next right smile.gif. I am looking out for any new video you put online.
P.S I did not know about the copy right thing and playing audio in your video. Interesting. Anyway, my next audio move will be to move away from disks and get a server based system. Won't be for awhile but it will make my life a lot easier. Keep on enjpying that great room.
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