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post #1201 of 2133
12/27/12 at 6:58am
Which ones are you considering?

Forgot to ask you that in the last post.
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post #1202 of 2133
12/27/12 at 7:58am
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The first Christmas in the new house has been a busy one. We left Saturday morning and just got back yesterday...Logged 1238 miles in the car visiting five cities while driving through thunderstorms and blizzards.. Now that we are home, it is time to watch movies.
Legacy Audio makes a GREAT product. I have a friend that has a set in his theater room(not sure which type, but I know they were significantly higher in price than what I have.) I will see if I can get the model numbers for you.
Hope you guys had a great Christmas too!

Greetings! That sounds like a fun, albeit BUSY Christmas! But hey, as long as it’s with family, that’s what really matters. I’m sure your new theater is broken in by now…How’s the Lumagen Radiance treating you?

Man, I'm looking at three different sets: The Signature SE’s w/ Silverscreen center channel; the Focus SE’s with Marquis center, but now—I’m trying to figure out a way to swing the Aeris models w/ Marquis center channel. All three options are attainable eventually (in 2013, my MAIN focus will be upgrading my speakers); however, I’m just trying to figure out which one will mitigate my upgrade bug for the longest amount of time (at least a decade or so). The Air Motion Tweeter (AMT) is the driving force behind the selection of Legacy. That, and their stellar reputation are what pushed me to them, as a manufacturer.
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post #1203 of 2133
12/27/12 at 9:22am
Before u completely give up on Catalysts, u ought to try and hear a demo with them. I have heard a number of speakers equal to or even better than them for two channel, but very very few for HT (and they cost lot more)

I love the brand u r looking into by the way. He has been around a long time.

If u want to wander south to Atlanta, I will be more than happy to have u come by and listen.

But whatever u decide, I'm sure it will sound amazing!
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post #1204 of 2133
12/27/12 at 9:54am
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Greetings! That sounds like a fun, albeit BUSY Christmas! But hey, as long as it’s with family, that’s what really matters. I’m sure your new theater is broken in by now…How’s the Lumagen Radiance treating you?
Man, I'm looking at three different sets: The Signature SE’s w/ Silverscreen center channel; the Focus SE’s with Marquis center, but now—I’m trying to figure out a way to swing the Aeris models w/ Marquis center channel. All three options are attainable eventually (in 2013, my MAIN focus will be upgrading my speakers); however, I’m just trying to figure out which one will mitigate my upgrade bug for the longest amount of time (at least a decade or so). The Air Motion Tweeter (AMT) is the driving force behind the selection of Legacy. That, and their stellar reputation are what pushed me to them, as a manufacturer.

The Lumagen is treating me quite well. I haven't said much about it because my usage of the room has been low. After viewing the second movie, my Onkyo 5508 went out on me. That started a six week process that resulted in me now using a Denon 4520 as a pre-amp... Then I had to get the Audyssey Pro redone on the room, but now I am back in business. I still need to get a new rack kit and put the rack back together. That will come the first of the year.....

Anyways, the picture quality is amazing using hte Lumagen. Plus the ability to watch 2:35 movies on a 115" 2:35 screen puts a smile on my face. I am probably sitting a tad closer than I should be for that large of a screen, so certain movies don't look as sharp as others. My only upgrade in 2013, besides if anything dies and has to be upgraded, might be a new projector. I have a RS-40, but the newer JVC models look good on paper. I have also started the saving process for my next speaker setup. Most likely it will be another year before that will happen due to the price.. Right now I am so happy with how things sound, that I am okay waiting.

My buddy has the Marquis center channel and the Focus SE's. He is using Triad in wallls for the rears. GREAT sounding room....but not the best sounding I have heard. That award goes to Audioguy's room. Blew me away!
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post #1205 of 2133
12/27/12 at 10:02am
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Before u completely give up on Catalysts, u ought to try and hear a demo with them. I have heard a number of speakers equal to or even better than them for two channel, but very very few for HT (and they cost lot more)
I love the brand u r looking into by the way. He has been around a long time.
If u want to wander south to Atlanta, I will be more than happy to have u come by and listen.
But whatever u decide, I'm sure it will sound amazing!

FUNNY! I just mentioned your room in my last post..

This room and these speakers BLEW me away, as I previously mentioned. So much, that I am saving up to duplicate the system he has. I am starting with three CAT-12's for the fronts, then upgrading my subs, followed by the rears..

If you are able to find your way to Atlanta, you won't be sorry. My friend has the same speakers you are mentioning, but I felt the Cat-12's were better by quite a bit. Both rooms are similar in the way they are setup and treated but Audioguy has better subs.. I am no professional when it comes to judging and reviewing this stuff but no room or system has ever left an impression on me the way Audioguy's room did. Immediately after leaving his house, I knew I wanted the Cat-12's. Normally I am not a patient person when it comes to this hobby.....that has changed due to the price of this upgrade. biggrin.gif

Good luck. smile.gif
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post #1206 of 2133
12/27/12 at 6:32pm
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I do not doubt that the CAT-12’s equal and may even out-perform the Legacy Focus SE for HT—I, myself, have sworn by the CATs a thousand times, sight unseen (or is that, "u heard?" lol; however, as my ability to discern musical detail evolves and I grow in my love of music, after hearing what ribbons (and similar) tweeters can do for music, I am being drawn toward Legacy.  A determining factor will be the demo of the Signature SE models and Focus SE models in a couple of weeks.  Audioguy, I’m going to PM you in the near future regarding your kind demo offer.  My lady and I were talking earlier this year about spending a 3-day weekend in Atlanta to see the sights.  Checking out the CAT-12’s at some point during that trip would be marvelous.

In a perfect world, I’d scoop up 3 CAT-12’s for HT and a pair of Legacy Focus SE’s for the upstairs media room (effectively turning it into the primary listening room.), but unless I make VP before I finish typing this, I can’t have my cake and eat it too....yet wink.gif
 
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post #1207 of 2133
12/27/12 at 6:44pm
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The Lumagen is treating me quite well. I haven't said much about it because my usage of the room has been low. After viewing the second movie, my Onkyo 5508 went out on me. That started a six week process that resulted in me now using a Denon 4520 as a pre-amp... Then I had to get the Audyssey Pro redone on the room, but now I am back in business. I still need to get a new rack kit and put the rack back together. That will come the first of the year.....
Anyways, the picture quality is amazing using hte Lumagen. Plus the ability to watch 2:35 movies on a 115" 2:35 screen puts a smile on my face. I am probably sitting a tad closer than I should be for that large of a screen, so certain movies don't look as sharp as others. My only upgrade in 2013, besides if anything dies and has to be upgraded, might be a new projector. I have a RS-40, but the newer JVC models look good on paper. I have also started the saving process for my next speaker setup. Most likely it will be another year before that will happen due to the price.. Right now I am so happy with how things sound, that I am okay waiting.
My buddy has the Marquis center channel and the Focus SE's. He is using Triad in wallls for the rears. GREAT sounding room....but not the best sounding I have heard. That award goes to Audioguy's room. Blew me away!

Oh man, sorry to hear about the Onkyo 5508 issues. How do you like the Denon? I hear you on the "danger close" viewing situation. It's worth it though, as most newer films look great! I may upgrade to a JVC eShift model to fix that issue though.
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post #1208 of 2133
12/27/12 at 7:54pm
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Thinking about selling the Integra DHC-80.3 to make room for a Denon AVP-A1HDCI processor...I'm eyeing that, yet again. Not sure if I have the patience for the sale process though, but it would definitely mitigate the cost of the upgrade.

My gosh....the chronic upgraditis itch truly can never be satiated...

Edit: Must...resist.....I need speakers.......must...concentrate.....must....focus....
Edited by BrolicBeast - 12/27/12 at 8:01pm
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post #1209 of 2133
12/27/12 at 7:58pm
What does the Denon improve over the Integra?
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post #1210 of 2133
12/28/12 at 4:23am
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What does the Denon improve over the Integra?

Nothing feature-wise. I would assume sound quality, given its msrp. I was having a temporary "grass is greener" moment though. I love my 80.3.
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post #1211 of 2133
12/28/12 at 4:25am
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Two words: Underworld Awakening.

Reference a/v throughout and it will give your sub some push-ups to do.
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post #1212 of 2133
12/28/12 at 6:14am
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Two words: Underworld Awakening.
Reference a/v throughout and it will give your sub some push-ups to do.

Very true especially that big lycan smile.gif
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post #1213 of 2133
12/28/12 at 7:21am
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Very true especially that big lycan smile.gif

Man, I replayed that one scene with the super-lycan a number of times. The bass is really powerful there. The whole movie is rife with superb a/v goodness. Demonstration quality, without a doubt. There had been quite a bit of discussion about this disc on the Master Bass List thread but I never knew the impact would be so impressive. The talk of the bass is the main reason I got the disc.

I own the first two Underworld films, but the 2nd left such a bad taste, I never watched Rise of the Lycans and I completely ignored Awakening until yesterday (I still loved the 1st film though). Whoever did the sound design is a true master of his/her art. It was also great to see Charles Dance from Game of Thrones doing what he does best—playing the authoritative Patriarch. Those darn Lannisters…
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post #1214 of 2133
12/28/12 at 7:58am
Congrats by your setup and by the number of upgrades introduced in the last year.

We are following your upgrade evalution throught the Youtube and we only now saw this thread.

It will be very interesting to follow up the speakers upgrade process.

Happy New Year to you and your family.

Marcos


Q.J.A
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post #1215 of 2133
12/28/12 at 10:32am
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Congrats by your setup and by the number of upgrades introduced in the last year.
We are following your upgrade evalution throught the Youtube and we only now saw this thread.
It will be very interesting to follow up the speakers upgrade process.
Happy New Year to you and your family.
Marcos
Q.J.A

Hey Marcos, thanks for the kind words. How are you? I wish a Happy New Year to you and your family as well. Keep enjoying your Oppo BDP-95!
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post #1216 of 2133
12/28/12 at 3:06pm
Happy Holidays from the north. I just got a chance to watch TDKR on my system and to me it is reference all the way. I am assuming you already gave it a spin. So you are looking at Legacy speakers? They should make a nice system. Everything I have read about them has been very positive.
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post #1217 of 2133
12/28/12 at 5:11pm
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Happy Holidays from the north. I just got a chance to watch TDKR on my system and to me it is reference all the way. I am assuming you already gave it a spin. So you are looking at Legacy speakers? They should make a nice system. Everything I have read about them has been very positive.

Legacy Focus HD speakers are on my list for my ultimate fantasy system.
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post #1218 of 2133
12/28/12 at 6:03pm
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Nothing feature-wise. I would assume sound quality, given its msrp. I was having a temporary "grass is greener" moment though. I love my 80.3.

Don't do it man lol!!! Get those speakers!! Listen to me attempting to be the A/V voice of reason !!!

The legacy speakers are gorgeous and have that timeless look that 10 years from now still get attention and although I have never heard them they must sound pretty good.
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12/28/12 at 7:26pm
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IMy lady and I were talking earlier this year about spending a 3-day weekend in Atlanta to see the sights.  Checking out the CAT-12’s at some point during that trip would be marvelous.

I look forward to it!!
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post #1220 of 2133
12/28/12 at 8:28pm
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Legacy Focus HD speakers are on my list for my ultimate fantasy system.
I wouldn't mind hearing some Legacy speakers in a real setting either. Although, I am quite content with my Focal 1027's smile.gif.
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post #1221 of 2133
12/29/12 at 4:44am
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I do not doubt that the CAT-12’s equal and may even out-perform the Legacy Focus SE for HT—I, myself, have sworn by the CATs a thousand times, sight unseen (or is that, "u heard?" lol; however, as my ability to discern musical detail evolves and I grow in my love of music, after hearing what ribbons (and similar) tweeters can do for music, I am being drawn toward Legacy.  A determining factor will be the demo of the Signature SE models and Focus SE models in a couple of weeks.  Audioguy, I’m going to PM you in the near future regarding your kind demo offer.  My lady and I were talking earlier this year about spending a 3-day weekend in Atlanta to see the sights.  Checking out the CAT-12’s at some point during that trip would be marvelous.
In a perfect world, I’d scoop up 3 CAT-12’s for HT and a pair of Legacy Focus SE’s for the upstairs media room (effectively turning it into the primary listening room.), but unless I make VP before I finish typing this, I can’t have my cake and eat it too....yet wink.gif
 

You haven't heard about Mark's new Seaton Legacy Focus SE limited edition speakers. I have an 11.1 set-up with those...not tongue.gif Seriously though, have you looked into the new JTR Noesis? I know that you are all over this stuff so you likely already looked into them somewhat but just thought I would mention it. They don't "look" sexy but they are suppose to sound fantastic.
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12/29/12 at 6:24am
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Although, I am quite content with my Focal 1027's smile.gif.

+1
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12/29/12 at 9:28am
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Happy Holidays from the north. I just got a chance to watch TDKR on my system and to me it is reference all the way. I am assuming you already gave it a spin. So you are looking at Legacy speakers? They should make a nice system. Everything I have read about them has been very positive.

Man, TDKR is absolute Demo Quality.....it flexes everything from Subs to surrounds! Yeah man, I'm definitely looking at Legacy for their ATM tweeters and heralded performance. If my lady and I end up heading to ATL in early 2013, I'll definitely be demoing some Cat-12's though. Nothing is set in stone yet.
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Legacy Focus HD speakers are on my list for my ultimate fantasy system.

Excellent! Just out of curiosity, any reason for wanting the "HD," as opposed to the "SE?"
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Don't do it man lol!!! Get those speakers!! Listen to me attempting to be the A/V voice of reason !!!
The legacy speakers are gorgeous and have that timeless look that 10 years from now still get attention and although I have never heard them they must sound pretty good.

LOL....I had to fight it man! But at the end of the day, I've got my priorities and Speakers and Projector w/ eShift are at the top of my list.
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You haven't heard about Mark's new Seaton Legacy Focus SE limited edition speakers. I have an 11.1 set-up with those...not tongue.gif Seriously though, have you looked into the new JTR Noesis? I know that you are all over this stuff so you likely already looked into them somewhat but just thought I would mention it. They don't "look" sexy but they are suppose to sound fantastic.

lol....what I would't give to get Mark S. and BIll D. in the same room to collaborate on a speaker design. Mercy.....there would cease to be competitors. Their product would reign supreme! lol.....IT's funny you mentioned that, I have looked at the Noesis, but in my opinion, the way the horn is mounted onto the speaker is a bit unattractive (you can see the heads of the bolts they use around the horn)....unless the pictures I saw were of a Prototype, which is certainly possible.
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12/29/12 at 9:36am
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I sold my Oppo 103 (after upgrading to the 105), I'm selling my JVC-RS45 to a local buyer this evening, and I just put my Klipsch Reference Speaker System up for sale on AVS.

This upgrade just got REAL.

Thankfully, I have my fully stocked Media Room upstairs to keep my going until replacements are in place about a month or so from now.
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12/29/12 at 9:45am
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Oh man, sorry to hear about the Onkyo 5508 issues. How do you like the Denon? I hear you on the "danger close" viewing situation. It's worth it though, as most newer films look great! I may upgrade to a JVC eShift model to fix that issue though.

I really like the Denon. A buddy of mine let me use his 3313 while I was trying to troubleshoot my 5508. Then I ended up using another friend's 4520 and fell in love with it. Originally I thought I would miss not having the XLR connections, but after doing some research I realized that I am not benefiting from them due to the short run I have. Plus, my ears can't tell a difference either.. The other thing that was a big plus for me was the Denon runs SIGNFICANTLY cooler and has ZERO clicking when the audio changes.

I had used the XT32 Pro on my Onkyo but for some unexplained reason, the PRO on the 4520 netted me much better results and my system sounds AMAZING now..

The 4520 has a feature called "Dialog Enhancer", which I played around with independently of the Audyssey. At first I didn't think it would do much but I set it on "low" and my wife was impressed. It boosts the center channel dialog just a hair and just enough to improve my system that much more.... It has three settings and I am sure it helps out more in systems with a "lacking" center channel.

After years of being off the Denon wagon.. this unit has me back on...

What exactly does the eShift feature bring to the table?
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post #1226 of 2133
12/29/12 at 9:45am
Oh snap, it's on now. You have me excited and it's not even my system. biggrin.gif
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12/29/12 at 9:48am
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I sold my Oppo 103 (after upgrading to the 105), I'm selling my JVC-RS45 to a local buyer this evening, and I just put my Klipsch Reference Speaker System up for sale on AVS.
This upgrade just got REAL.
Thankfully, I have my fully stocked Media Room upstairs to keep my going until replacements are in place about a month or so from now.

Which JVC did you decide on? Have you finalized your speaker upgrade? biggrin.gif
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12/29/12 at 10:09am
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I really like the Denon. A buddy of mine let me use his 3313 while I was trying to troubleshoot my 5508. Then I ended up using another friend's 4520 and fell in love with it. Originally I thought I would miss not having the XLR connections, but after doing some research I realized that I am not benefiting from them due to the short run I have. Plus, my ears can't tell a difference either.. The other thing that was a big plus for me was the Denon runs SIGNFICANTLY cooler and has ZERO clicking when the audio changes.
I had used the XT32 Pro on my Onkyo but for some unexplained reason, the PRO on the 4520 netted me much better results and my system sounds AMAZING now..
The 4520 has a feature called "Dialog Enhancer", which I played around with independently of the Audyssey. At first I didn't think it would do much but I set it on "low" and my wife was impressed. It boosts the center channel dialog just a hair and just enough to improve my system that much more.... It has three settings and I am sure it helps out more in systems with a "lacking" center channel.
After years of being off the Denon wagon.. this unit has me back on...
What exactly does the eShift feature bring to the table?

As a long-time Denon user, I know the satisfaction you feel. I still have my Denon AVR-4310 in my media room and it serves me very very well! That 4520 is a monster though--pretty much everything the Marantz 8801 does, but over $1k less.

Ah, eShift does 4k upscaling that significantly decreases required viewing distances. So, for folks like me who sit fairly close to the screen (about 1 screen width), it makes sure all movies look great, as opposed to holding one's breath to see if a film is authored pristinely. At my viewing distance, poorly authored discs, or even averagely authored discs don't look that great.
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Oh snap, it's on now. You have me excited and it's not even my system. biggrin.gif

biggrin.gifcool.gifsmile.gif It's onnnn like Donkey Kong!
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Which JVC did you decide on? Have you finalized your speaker upgrade? biggrin.gif

I'll be shooting for either one of a dealer's last few JVC-RS55 projectors at a killer deal (my ideal choice), or a RS4810 (offers eShift and improves on the picture of the RS45/46). Right now, I'm thinking of going for the Legacy Signature SE w/ Air Motion Tweeter. If I end up getting a great deal on the replacement projector, then I'll definitely be shooting for the Legacy Focus SE's or possibly the Seaton Cat-12's if I can demo them in time.
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12/29/12 at 10:12am
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Excellent! Just out of curiosity, any reason for wanting the "HD," as opposed to the "SE?"

Simple. The Focus SE is a candidate for my "real-world" fantasy system. No sense repeating! That's along with the Signature SE. For my real-world system, it's probably the Def Tech BP-8080ST or Mythos ST Super Towers. All these are under 10k and go low enough to not need a subwoofer.
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12/29/12 at 10:44am
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Man, TDKR is absolute Demo Quality.....it flexes everything from Subs to surrounds! Yeah man, I'm definitely looking at Legacy for their ATM tweeters and heralded performance. If my lady and I end up heading to ATL in early 2013, I'll definitely be demoing some Cat-12's though. Nothing is set in stone yet.
Excellent! Just out of curiosity, any reason for wanting the "HD," as opposed to the "SE?"
LOL....I had to fight it man! But at the end of the day, I've got my priorities and Speakers and Projector w/ eShift are at the top of my list.
lol....what I would't give to get Mark S. and BIll D. in the same room to collaborate on a speaker design. Mercy.....there would cease to be competitors. Their product would reign supreme! lol.....IT's funny you mentioned that, I have looked at the Noesis, but in my opinion, the way the horn is mounted onto the speaker is a bit unattractive (you can see the heads of the bolts they use around the horn)....unless the pictures I saw were of a Prototype, which is certainly possible.

I agree that the JTR speakers have a certain look that isn't for everybody. I call them "commercial" but not sure that is right term either. They fit right in with what I was trying to do with my current room but would not have looked at all in my previous room. Just thoughts I would throw it out there. I know you are all over this stuff so I had guessed you already considered them. The good news is whatever you pick...2 or 3 years from now there will be something different to try. That is part of the fun of this hobby for me..trying new stuff.
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