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post #1291 of 1874
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Originally Posted by devotech View Post

First time seeing this setup. i really dig it and the layout is probably exactly the way I would do it. I think most people prefer to have the screen on the shorter wall and sit farther away, but not me. Well done. Still like the Klipsch after all of the years?

Yes, its great to get up, close, and personal with the image. Glad you like it......but alas, I just sold my Klipsch speakers to help fund a high-end upgrade...but they were great.

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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

It's really a single channel amp with 1000 watts not 500. I don't have a riser and my Lazy Boy chairs are not connected. We just placed the one Transducer under the chair that I sit in. It had holes already so we just placed the footers in three other places to even out the chair. I don't have a riser so my main chair is the only one that shakes. I think Craig's system may shake a bit more than mine simply because he is using a riser and I am sure that does something. I remember thinking to myself when I went over his place that I thought he had a bit more shake then me, But I am not complaining. I still get that holy crap moment plenty of times.

Oh I thought you split the signal into two crowsons, but I do indeed now recall you saying that you have one under the main LP. My gosh.....1kw available wattage on one transducer....man, you may have a jackhammer on your hands. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Oh I thought you split the signal into two crowsons, but I do indeed now recall you saying that you have one under the main LP. My gosh.....1kw available wattage on one transducer....man, you may have a jackhammer on your hands. biggrin.gif
That's why I can just turn the amp up to three. It works good enough for me and I am not willing to risk more damage.
post #1293 of 1874
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Yes, its great to get up, close, and personal with the image. Glad you like it......but alas, I just sold my Klipsch speakers to help fund a high-end upgrade...but they were great.


Look forward to seeing the updates!
post #1294 of 1874
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Is anyone else underwhelmed by CES so far? 4K displays at sizes too small to benefit from the format....a series of phones and tablets...laptops...

Looks like I may have to wait until E3 to get excited.....and then, CEDIA!

Although the show isn't over yet...
post #1295 of 1874
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Is anyone else underwhelmed by CES so far? 4K displays at sizes too small to benefit from the format....a series of phones and tablets...laptops...
Looks like I may have to wait until E3 to get excited.....and then, CEDIA!
Although the show isn't over yet...

I agree 100% with you. Seems like CEDIA is the better show, IMO, the past few years. Probably because I am more interested in projectors and audio gear than I am in the 4K panel war..

Maybe some new speakers will surface in the next couple of days. biggrin.gif
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Well CES has really been about gadgets for quite awhile now (if not really always). All wiz-bang, not a lot for enthusiasts. In that regard CEDIA has always been the more important show for guys (and gals) like us. It's more focused and therefore can be more informative and educational. I enjoy CEDIA for what it's worth and appreciate all the 4K focus. It just means we're due up in a few years for another major upgrade in general for our displays, something I'm quite excited over (see my by-line under my username lol). Once the displays are starting to make a bigger transition we're going to see the sources follow. Heck we're already seeing a big push for 4K input and source processing in receivers so this is only the beginning. I'm actually curious to see if there's any differences in Sony's "4K mastered" BDs and discs we already assumed were sourced from a 4K master.
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I like what Panasonic showed today for their new displays and glad to see that plasma live another year! LOL

JT
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I am not at CES this year. I needed a break from all the walking I did last year. But, I will say that I am probably in the minority here when I say I really enjoy it when I do go. You see, my thing is high end audio. I just love going to the Venetian and listening to the big 2ch setups they have. I also sometimes try to make it out to T.H.E Show which is also a high end audio show. But I understand what you mean. A friend that I go with has been disappointed as well a few times with some of the technology that is out there. But he hangs with me in the high end section sometimes. High end audio is why I normally go but I can understand that others may be upset. Most of that stuff would probably be at the LVCC and I hardly go there.
post #1299 of 1874
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

I agree 100% with you. Seems like CEDIA is the better show, IMO, the past few years. Probably because I am more interested in projectors and audio gear than I am in the 4K panel war..
Maybe some new speakers will surface in the next couple of days. biggrin.gif

Yeah man—and I completely agree on the reason as well. Being more interested in projectors and mid-to-high-end audio means a smaller concentration on the things we value. It does provide some decent insight into technology that will be making its way into projectors though.

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Originally Posted by pcweber111 View Post

Well CES has really been about gadgets for quite awhile now (if not really always). All wiz-bang, not a lot for enthusiasts. In that regard CEDIA has always been the more important show for guys (and gals) like us. It's more focused and therefore can be more informative and educational. I enjoy CEDIA for what it's worth and appreciate all the 4K focus. It just means we're due up in a few years for another major upgrade in general for our displays, something I'm quite excited over (see my by-line under my username lol). Once the displays are starting to make a bigger transition we're going to see the sources follow. Heck we're already seeing a big push for 4K input and source processing in receivers so this is only the beginning. I'm actually curious to see if there's any differences in Sony's "4K mastered" BDs and discs we already assumed were sourced from a 4K master.

Very true…it’s definitely focused on the general consumer. LOL, yeah I’ve noticed that’s been your by0line for quite some time, so I know you’re definitely a 4k proponent! The second 4k material is released en masse, I’ll begin scooping up the gear. Thankfully, the Integra 80.3 does 4k passthrough, but my Lumagen…nope…projector…nope…..those will all have to be updates. Ah, I’ve missed Sony’s 4k mastered Blu Rays….I’ll have to research that today. I’m also very interested in the Electronics Entertainment Expo (E3), as I am a gamer and always look forward to the high-impact items. This year should see the next-gen systems announced, although they don’t hold a handle to a well-build, high-end PC.

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Originally Posted by jnnt29 View Post

I like what Panasonic showed today for their new displays and glad to see that plasma live another year! LOL
JT

Lol, I am and always have been a plasma fan. I’ve got a Panasonic plasma in my media room (sold the LCD that was in there before) and it’s black levels are remarkable. Well, its picture overall is remarkable! Long live Plasma!!! Although I do fear that LCD will soon give Plasma televisions Pai Mei’s five-finger exploding heart technique soon. (Kill Bill 2 reference!)
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

I am not at CES this year. I needed a break from all the walking I did last year. But, I will say that I am probably in the minority here when I say I really enjoy it when I do go. You see, my thing is high end audio. I just love going to the Venetian and listening to the big 2ch setups they have. I also sometimes try to make it out to T.H.E Show which is also a high end audio show. But I understand what you mean. A friend that I go with has been disappointed as well a few times with some of the technology that is out there. But he hangs with me in the high end section sometimes. High end audio is why I normally go but I can understand that others may be upset. Most of that stuff would probably be at the LVCC and I hardly go there.

Ah yes! I usually look forward to Stereophile’s coverage of the Venetian. Do you normally go every year? I’m thinking about taking a week off from work and attending CEDIA this year. I’d like to attend more trade shows, but I am an introvert and I hate-hate-hate crowds. CEDIA might be worth it though.
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Ah yes! I usually look forward to Stereophile’s coverage of the Venetian. Do you normally go every year? I’m thinking about taking a week off from work and attending CEDIA this year. I’d like to attend more trade shows, but I am an introvert and I hate-hate-hate crowds. CEDIA might be worth it though.
Just about. I went for about 2-3 years in a row and then it started to be every other year. I normally don't go on my own for various reasons so I go when my friend goes. We went last year but he just did not want to go this year and like I said, I have an "issue" with my feet and they were killing me after the trip last year so I figured I would take a year off. But I may go next year. I really like going to the show and hanging out in Vegas is pretty cool. We shall see if I go next year. I have never been to CEDIA though. The only other trade show I have been to was NAB. That is almost %100 production equipment(radio and TV stations etc...) and they have some video stuff there but you can't sit at all at that show so I was one and done with that one.
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Least you guys are lucky our Cedia over here is rubbish and small from what I've been told. Never been to one but have seen the US ones on you tube and they look awesome.
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Hey Brolic!! It's been a while since I last posted in your thread, but I've certainly been following it.

I must say that I'm very impressed with the progress of your home theater. Very nicely done, my friend!! You must be grinning from ear to ear!

I just wanted to share that the upgrade bug bit me recently too. Seems to happen to all of us this time of year!

Anyway, I purchased a pair of KEF iQ10s so I can make the jump to 7.1 and complete my KEF setup. Also, my eD sub seems to be on its way out (bad purchase decision on my part, considering they are now out of business) making some nasty chirping sounds during heavy LFE scenes. So a new Outlaw LFM-1 EX is on it's way as we speak. I can't wait for it all to come together.

I look forward to your upcoming speaker upgrade. Here's to upgradeitis!!!
Edited by dharel - 1/9/13 at 8:17am
post #1303 of 1874
Hi Guys. I noticed all the talk about 4K and thought you all might be interested in this article. It's talks about how 4K content would have to be stored or delivered to the home. eek.gif
post #1304 of 1874
The whole mastered in 4k stuff seems silly. Just give us a GOOD transfer lol. IE Samsara and TimeScapes. I never knew how good 1080p could look haha. Wasn't even planning on fully watching both of them but after putting in TimeScapes to check it out a little I ended up telling my fiance that wed eat dinner at home and ordered a pizza and had a baraka/samsara/Timescapes marathon.biggrin.gif
post #1305 of 1874
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Originally Posted by jnnt29 View Post

I like what Panasonic showed today for their new displays and glad to see that plasma live another year! LOL
JT

There's a Sony 55" XBR LED LCD reviewed in the Feb/March Home Theater that, according to the review, is on par with a Panasonic TC-P65VT50 and better in some aspects (not in off-axis viewing, of course). This was a 2D comparison.
post #1306 of 1874
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Originally Posted by prepress View Post

There's a Sony 55" XBR LED LCD reviewed in the Feb/March Home Theater that, according to the review, is on par with a Panasonic TC-P65VT50 and better in some aspects (not in off-axis viewing, of course). This was a 2D comparison.

Was it at the shoot out this year? Which model? I know the HX929 scored high awhile back
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Man I step away for some really busy work days and missed the Crowsons/Amp addition lol!!

Great video man as always and your enthusiasm is something we are all probably really enjoy watching with the technical details of course. This causes me to also re-think whats next for me maybe some chairs since I need some anyway and dare I say it Crowsons/Amp since you and MikeDuke who I hopefully get a chance to meet at the GTG are enjoying them so much besides the mrs would think I am nuts for adding anymore subwoofers rolleyes.gif
post #1308 of 1874
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

Was it at the shoot out this year? Which model? I know the HX929 scored high awhile back

I didn't make the 2012 shootout, if you mean VE's event, but the winner was the Panasonic TC-P65VT50. There was no Sony in the lineup. The Sony model under review in HT is the XBR-55HX950.
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Originally Posted by wkingincharge View Post

Man I step away for some really busy work days and missed the Crowsons/Amp addition lol!!

Great video man as always and your enthusiasm is something we are all probably really enjoy watching with the technical details of course. This causes me to also re-think whats next for me maybe some chairs since I need some anyway and dare I say it Crowsons/Amp since you and MikeDuke who I hopefully get a chance to meet at the GTG are enjoying them so much besides the mrs would think I am nuts for adding anymore subwoofers rolleyes.gif
I thought my ears were ringing biggrin.gif. If you mean the spring GTG at Gorilla's place then yes, I am going and we can certainly meet and talk a bit about the Crowson. To me, it's the perfect addition for people who have small rooms and can't fit another sub or just don't want to for whatever reason but want that extra feeling that many people get who have more than one sub, But it obviously works for people who have more than one sub as so many in here do.
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

Just about. I went for about 2-3 years in a row and then it started to be every other year. I normally don't go on my own for various reasons so I go when my friend goes. We went last year but he just did not want to go this year and like I said, I have an "issue" with my feet and they were killing me after the trip last year so I figured I would take a year off. But I may go next year. I really like going to the show and hanging out in Vegas is pretty cool. We shall see if I go next year. I have never been to CEDIA though. The only other trade show I have been to was NAB. That is almost %100 production equipment(radio and TV stations etc...) and they have some video stuff there but you can't sit at all at that show so I was one and done with that one.

I want to “Be Like Mike” then—to attend a trade show even every other year must be great. Major shows like that sometimes have Segways (sp) for rent (I’ve seen some at some large-scale business conferences). You can cruise the entire floor, and never take a step. Then again, given the volume of attendance at these shows, the few available probably wouldn’t last long. I really think I’m going to try to make CEDIA this year just to oogle at new technology. I’m hoping the Sony VPL1000 gets some cheaper competition this year. So you went to NAB? I’m sure the fllors were filled with $200k cameras. Production equipment makes enthusiast equipment look like downright bargains.
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Originally Posted by Franin View Post

Least you guys are lucky our Cedia over here is rubbish and small from what I've been told. Never been to one but have seen the US ones on you tube and they look awesome.

Oh wow….You know what that means! You’ve got to fly overone of these summers (maybe on vacation with the family) and check CEDIA-USA out! Just out of curiosity, have you traveled to the states before?
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Originally Posted by dharel View Post

Hey Brolic!! It's been a while since I last posted in your thread, but I've certainly been following it.

I must say that I'm very impressed with the progress of your home theater. Very nicely done, my friend!! You must be grinning from ear to ear!

I just wanted to share that the upgrade bug bit me recently too. Seems to happen to all of us this time of year!

Anyway, I purchased a pair of KEF iQ10s so I can make the jump to 7.1 and complete my KEF setup. Also, my eD sub seems to be on its way out (bad purchase decision on my part, considering they are now out of business) making some nasty chirping sounds during heavy LFE scenes. So a new Outlaw LFM-1 EX is on it's way as we speak. I can't wait for it all to come together.

I look forward to your upcoming speaker upgrade. Here's to upgradeitis!!!

Greetings dharel, and thanks for the very kind words. Those are some great upgrades, as you can’t go wrong with KEF’s—these guys have been around for decades. Ahhhh, scooped up an Outlaw LFM? I’m pretty sure the LFM stands for “Low frequency Monster!” lol….Great upgrade. **Lifts glass** Here’s to upgraditis, indeed! May our angry wallets be ever in our favor! Lol

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Originally Posted by hometheatergeek View Post

Hi Guys. I noticed all the talk about 4K and thought you all might be interested in this article. It's talks about how 4K content would have to be stored or delivered to the home. eek.gif

An absolutely AWESOME article HTG. After reading this, I am NOT holding my breath for complete UHD adoption anytime soon. Establishing an entire infrastructure would need to start with, at a minimum, 100% permeation of the professional cinema environment before trickling into home use with the few plausible codecs. I had no idea that UHD was so far off.
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

The whole mastered in 4k stuff seems silly. Just give us a GOOD transfer lol. IE Samsara and TimeScapes. I never knew how good 1080p could look haha. Wasn't even planning on fully watching both of them but after putting in TimeScapes to check it out a little I ended up telling my fiance that wed eat dinner at home and ordered a pizza and had a baraka/samsara/Timescapes marathon.biggrin.gif

I’ve never heard of Timescapes or Samsara….but Baraka is one of my go-to reference video discs! (A great clip is also on the Superleo demo disc). How do those two compare with Baraka? Pizza and Baraka sound like a perfect evening…..makes me want some Pizza now……and Baraka!
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Originally Posted by prepress View Post

There's a Sony 55" XBR LED LCD reviewed in the Feb/March Home Theater that, according to the review, is on par with a Panasonic TC-P65VT50 and better in some aspects (not in off-axis viewing, of course). This was a 2D comparison.

I’ve been an Ht subscriber since ’07—just got my Feb/March issue, but haven’t looked through it yet. I’m going to need to read it today. On par with the VT series? As I recall, Sony came very close to the mark last year with an XBR LCD as well ( I forget the model).
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Originally Posted by wkingincharge View Post

Man I step away for some really busy work days and missed the Crowsons/Amp addition lol!!

Great video man as always and your enthusiasm is something we are all probably really enjoy watching with the technical details of course. This causes me to also re-think whats next for me maybe some chairs since I need some anyway and dare I say it Crowsons/Amp since you and MikeDuke who I hopefully get a chance to meet at the GTG are enjoying them so much besides the mrs would think I am nuts for adding anymore subwoofers rolleyes.gif

Lol, that first sentence made me laugh. Lol….the upgrade path never ends! Lol. Man, trust me—if you’re thinking about the Crowsons, your on the path to even MORE theater excellence! The thing is, don’t tell people you own transducers. The look in their faces when they FEEL the vibration—they wondering about where the vibration is coming from. They will simply be that much more engrossed in the film material an action on screen.
post #1311 of 1874
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Guys,

With my new transducers, I’ve been testing out my favorite bass scenes of all time. The top scenes are……

--The Hulk ( Edward Norton)—my gosh, during the climactic fight between the Hulk and the Abomination, there’s an LFE effect everytime the Hulk and The Abomination take a step, but the real kicker is when Hulk is beating Abomination with the pieces of the police car….right after the car parts disintegrate with Abomination on the ground, he grabs Abomination’s neck and raises his right hand to land a punch….at THIS moment, there is bass SOOOOO deep, that I started getting serious (and beautiful) excursions from all 4 of my 15” Submersive F2 drivers! Crazy!!! I dare anybody to play it at refence and NOT walk away grinning for half an hour. biggrin.gif

--War of the Worlds—the pod emergencuy scene has been beaten into the ground, so I will focus on when the alien begins shooting its “death rays?” at the humans……the bass, along with the transducer vibration, is an absolutely mindblowing experience. The scene is punctuated with a horizontal building explosion while Tom Cruise runs toward the camera. I almost had to look around to ensure no shrapnel was falling next to me.

--Flight of the Phoenix – Plane Crash. nuff said!

--Percy Jackson – Hydra battle. When the hydras leg first hits the ground, it feels like it just landed next to you! Also, when the middle one breathes fire, all that’s missing is the heat.

--Underworld Awakening – THE WHOLE MOVIE!! Lol…I’m not joking!

I would like to make a small commentary on one unexpected benefit of transducers. You can watch at a very low volume, and still “feel” the impact of your subwoofer. I watched a bass scene last night at 11:30pm and the volume was at -33, and the scene still had a huge impact due to the tactile transducers. Everyone should own one—especially for late-night listening, or low listening while the kids are studying.
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post #1313 of 1874
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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

In case you didn't see it:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1450832/the-official-crowson-tactile-motion-actuators-thread

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Craig, THANK-YOU! I did multiple searches for a crowson thread last week, but all I got was the generic transducer thread (the one with diagrams.) I might have been using the wrong search terms (I was searching for “Crowson Transducers.”)
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Guys,

With my new transducers, I’ve been testing out my favorite bass scenes of all time. The top scenes are……

--War of the Worlds—the pod emergencuy scene has been beaten into the ground, so I will focus on when the alien begins shooting its “death rays?” at the humans……the bass, along with the transducer vibration, is an absolutely mindblowing experience. The scene is punctuated with a horizontal building explosion while Tom Cruise runs toward the camera. I almost had to look around to ensure no shrapnel was falling next to me.


I would like to make a small commentary on one unexpected benefit of transducers. You can watch at a very low volume, and still “feel” the impact of your subwoofer. I watched a bass scene last night at 11:30pm and the volume was at -33, and the scene still had a huge impact due to the tactile transducers. Everyone should own one—especially for late-night listening, or low listening while the kids are studying.

To the WOTW point. I agree. There are two other parts that I think are fantastic for the Crowson. One is when the bridge explodes and the tanker crashes into the house. That's just plain scary. Second, is the part that you mention with him running down the street and house explodes. That is another good one. As to you other point. It is something that I noticed as well. I can play a movie with the over all level low, but still get the enjoyment of the shaking through the transducers. I am really glad that you are enjoying them as much as I am.
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

To the WOTW point. I agree. There are two other parts that I think are fantastic for the Crowson. One is when the bridge explodes and the tanker crashes into the house. That's just plain scary. Second, is the part that you mention with him running down the street and house explodes. That is another good one. As to you other point. It is something that I noticed as well. I can play a movie with the over all level low, but still get the enjoyment of the shaking through the transducers. I am really glad that you are enjoying them as much as I am.

Yes Sir, certainly getting quite a bit of enjoyment out of them. Yes, that bridge explosion is both audible and conceptual standpoint. I don’t understand why the picture quality is sooooo bad for WotW on Blu ray though. I can’t even use it as a demo to others, because past demos w/ WotW have had the audience distracted by how bad the picture was (then I have to pop in a reference video disc to prove that my projector isn’t garbage!)
post #1316 of 1874
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I’m a little wary of the daunting task of combining my Lumagen Radiance processor’s Color Management System (CMS) with the CMS in the RS56. I planned to unbox and dial it in this weekend, but with family visiting Sat and me auditioning some Legacy Speakers out of state on Sunday, it’ll be a while. I’ll probably start dialing it in next week. I already know what the Lumagen will do, but I’m curious to explore what fine-tuning options will be available on the RS56 after Lumagen calibration. The Lumagen worked very well with my old RS45, but I’m expecting big things out of this combination. Does anybody have any eShift/eShift2 settings advice? I can’t seem to find a dedicated RS56 thread. I can only find the CEDIA anticipation thread.
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Hey Brolic,

Been a fan of your unboxing videos on Youtube for a couple years now, and recently stumbled onto this AVS page. I saw your last video on the Oppo 105 and wanted to ask, how are you liking that over the 103? Since you have the Integra 80.3, have you done any sound comparisons?
post #1318 of 1874
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Originally Posted by SergeantYnot View Post

Hey Brolic,

Been a fan of your unboxing videos on Youtube for a couple years now, and recently stumbled onto this AVS page. I saw your last video on the Oppo 105 and wanted to ask, how are you liking that over the 103? Since you have the Integra 80.3, have you done any sound comparisons?

Greetings Sarge, man, AVS is such a great place!! I actually just sold my 103 last week, but I do know that the HDMI performance is absolutely identical. I did have them both in the rack for about 48 hours, and just for kicks, I did compare the analog performance of the two (with audyssey disengaged to avoid D-A-D conversion) and, as I expected, the 105 was definitely the superior player. I do a lot of analog listening these days, and the room is treated to the point where is sounds great without Audyssey for two channel. My HDMI inputs all have Audyssey turned on though. Only the XLR analog input has Audyssey turned off by default (I love the flexibility of the Integra 80.3!). thinking about picking up one of them....or both biggrin.gif ?
post #1319 of 1874
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Lol, that first sentence made me laugh. Lol….the upgrade path never ends! Lol. Man, trust me—if you’re thinking about the Crowsons, your on the path to even MORE theater excellence! The thing is, don’t tell people you own transducers. The look in their faces when they FEEL the vibration—they wondering about where the vibration is coming from. They will simply be that much more engrossed in the film material an action on screen.

You are correct on the upgratis lol!!!My interest are definitely peaking as I continue to read about them. The thing is as much as I know that a bigger video presentation can offer benefits my current room size won't support a real upgrade yet however any edge I can get with the audio is welcomed plus the current couch we use has become not very fun for long movie sessions and college/nfl ball so that's getting change to some theater seating at least 2 to 3 to start.
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

I thought my ears were ringing biggrin.gif. If you mean the spring GTG at Gorilla's place then yes, I am going and we can certainly meet and talk a bit about the Crowson. To me, it's the perfect addition for people who have small rooms and can't fit another sub or just don't want to for whatever reason but want that extra feeling that many people get who have more than one sub, But it obviously works for people who have more than one sub as so many in here do.

Looking forward to it man!! What I currently have for subs is already very strong for my current room and even my future room but the headroom is good for now and beyond so these transducers sound like icing on the cake to use a good term.
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