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post #1681 of 3159
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Hey Matt, I talked to Bill Dudleston today, and he says he remembers you and the picture you guys took together at the AXPONA show. He was exhausted, as the show was very busy. Also, Bill is a great guy, and his engineer-type personality is definitely not as bubbly as Mark Seaton's. :-)

Bill also said that the Legacy Marquis center channel is an excellent match to the Focus, Aeris, or Whisper speakers. In fact, the AMT tweeter in the Marquis is identical to the upper AMT element in the Focus, Aeris, and Whispers, and he voices these speakers to work extremely well together. Bill D. does all the final voicing himself before the speaker is shipped, and if you order a set, he voices them together as a set, so no worries about timbre-match issues at all.

BTW, our Best Buy here in Lancaster does not have a Magnolia. We have a music instrument store inside the BB. Really dumb, as we already have a Guitar Center and Drums Etc., both WAY better than BB could ever hope to be when it comes to instruments. I wish we had the Magnolia here instead. The closest Magnolia is in York, which is maybe 45 mins away.

Oh yeah, I wasn't knocking Bill...the differences between the two folks was just significant. The Legacy Room had a very healthy attendance every time I was inside or passed it by, snd i'm sure dealing with questions and demos for 3 days is tiring. Great news that the Marquis mates well with the entire line!.

Whoa, an instrument section instead of Magnolia? I haven't seen that before. That's the worst business plan ever. A mechanic doesn't buy vehicle parts from a flower shop just because they have spare parts in a box. Musicians won't buy their instruments from Best Buy when dedicated competition exists in the same area. But you don't need to visit demo rooms...you have Focuses AND Sigs in your setup. Lol....Best Buy should come to you! Lol. biggrin.gif However, I can certainly understand the frustration though!
post #1682 of 3159
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

I had a very interesting experience at my local Best Buy in Columbia, MD on Monday. I went into Best Buy to scoop up Wreck-It-Ralph, and they apparently recently completed a remodel. Of course, I ignored the remodel because best buy is only good for Blu Rays, right? Wrong…These folks put a bona fide Magnolia store in there. I’m not talking about the basic Magnolia addition with a basic receiver showroom; I’m talking about a rack with an Oppo BDP105, McIntosh 8207, B&W 802D’s, a 140” Stewart curved 2:35 screen, JVC X75….the list goes on, and this is just their show-room. These guys will price match nearly anybody. In a separate room, they Sonus Faber speakers (the exact models that DDGTR has on this WYSC thread, and the towers as well), powered by some heave-duty McIntosh Monoblock amps. I mean—guys, I felt like I was in a high-end dealer instead of a Best Buy. Even better, the guy who I met there actually KNOWS about Home Theater…..he doesn’t just regurgitate spec sheets. What a great experience.

That actually seems like a great business plan: The Brick and Mortar already exists so no expense for building it or renting it; while the typical BB customer may or may not be the demographic that the Magnolia store is looking for, some will be and others will at least stop in and probably tell someone about it. One of the BB's here has a Magnolia store in it but the product line shown is just above mid fi but much more importantly is that the staff are a bunch of uninformed boobs!
post #1683 of 3159
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Ha! I love it--the 7's "P"s are as true as it gets!

There's also the 5 "P"s of hemostasis, but you probably won't get those... they're a heart surgery "inside joke". Nonetheless, here they are:

Prolene
Protamine
Plasma
Platelets and
Prayer

"Hemostasis" is stopping bleeding. Your task for the day is to figure out what the other 5 P's mean. smile.gif

Craig
post #1684 of 3159
They have had a music store in some of the BBs for several years now, and I agree that it's a bad decision. The first and last time I was in one, I asked the guy if they had any Grados in stock, and he had no idea what I was talking about. Now that's awesome. tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by dharel View Post

I've heard about these newer Magnolia setups quite a bit recently, from friends and family living in different parts of the US. After doing some investigating, due to my own curiosity, I've learned that these are called Magnolia Design Centers. These differ, as Matt points out, from the standard Magnolia Home Theater setups found in most stores. Currently there are only 15 of these design centers open.


Wow, only 15? I have two of those design centers within driving distance.
post #1686 of 3159
The only problem I found with Magnolia was their pricing. I had seen a Marantz AV7005, which was used as a demo, sitting on their clearance section. When I inquired, the salesman only offered it at 10% off. I guess they don't realize people can find the same products online cheaper, and without the pain of sales tax.

When I was also looking to upgrade my sub, and was very interested in the REL line they carry, they mentioned they wouldn't price match another online AD, and there was no wiggle room at all. I'm not sure if they have changed their policy since, but they will need to figure out how to undercut online stores with sales tax. In some states you are paying close to 10%, and on a $2,000 unit, that adds up. When you put it in perspective, that's the price of a Logitech Harmony smile.gif
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Best Buy price matches now.
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If anyone wants to test the dynamic range of their system, play the raid scene in Zero Dark Thirty at reference level. biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif While you're at it, be sure to observe the audio and visual detail in each door Breach and the impact of each "thwack" of the silenced shots.
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

If anyone wants to test the dynamic range of their system, play the raid scene in Zero Dark Thirty at reference level. biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif While you're at it, be sure to observe the audio and visual detail in each door Breach and the impact of each "thwack" of the silenced shots.


I just pick this one up today and look forward to watching it. I also added an Emotiva XPA-3 based on the many recommendations from the guys on AVS. It sounds great. Funny thing is I have followed in your step with some of your older gear. I have the Emotiva paired with a Denon AVR 4310ci going to klipsch reference speakers. It sounds incredible. I've been enjoying your adventures in your system updates. You've done a great job.
post #1690 of 3159
Nice thread updates, been awhile since I've caught back up.

The Zero Dark Thirty (I've not seen it) team is essentially the same team that executed Hurt Locker, ... which also possesses superb sound design, and audio quality throughout.

Mark is a great guy isn't he? The depth of his skill-set is broad and deep, yet quite approachable. Interesting comments, I'm glad you enjoyed the show. I've attended several Cedias, dating back 13-14 years. Cedia will be entirely different, but it will blow you away in size and scope.

Thanks for sharing Matt, continued good luck
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

If anyone wants to test the dynamic range of their system, play the raid scene in Zero Dark Thirty at reference level. biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif While you're at it, be sure to observe the audio and visual detail in each door Breach and the impact of each "thwack" of the silenced shots.

Thanks Matt will keep an eye/ear out for it.
post #1692 of 3159
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I just pick this one up today and look forward to watching it. I also added an Emotiva XPA-3 based on the many recommendations from the guys on AVS. It sounds great. Funny thing is I have followed in your step with some of your older gear. I have the Emotiva paired with a Denon AVR 4310ci going to klipsch reference speakers. It sounds incredible. I've been enjoying your adventures in your system updates. You've done a great job.

Awesome score on the XPA-3!!! The Denon 4310 + Empotiva XPA series + Klipsch combination is a knockout combo in every way! I know your system brings the grins on a frequent basis! You'll definitely love ZDT on your system. Thanks for the kind words regarding my system and the updates.....it's a never ending journey bro.
post #1693 of 3159
I'm a big fan of Emotiva products.

Brolic, speaking of which, are you keeping the XPA-5 in your system?
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Nice thread updates, been awhile since I've caught back up.

The Zero Dark Thirty (I've not seen it) team is essentially the same team that executed Hurt Locker, ... which also possesses superb sound design, and audio quality throughout.

Mark is a great guy isn't he? The depth of his skill-set is broad and deep, yet quite approachable. Interesting comments, I'm glad you enjoyed the show. I've attended several Cedias, dating back 13-14 years. Cedia will be entirely different, but it will blow you away in size and scope.

Thanks for sharing Matt, continued good luck

Thanks FOH! Oh yeah that Bigelow-led team is deserving of all their accolades--truly! I love The Hurt Locker as a film and as an a/v experience! Ah, so you're a chronic CEDIA attendee, eh? I can't wait to touch down in Denver (we hope to get a bit of Skiing done as well).

Mark is definitely a great person and is one of those guys who will always be successful because of the value he places on his customers.
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Thanks Matt will keep an eye/ear out for it.

Frank, you're going to love it!!! It is a dialogue-heavy film, so you can play at reference without being fatigued.
post #1696 of 3159
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I'm a big fan of Emotiva products.

Brolic, speaking of which, are you keeping the XPA-5 in your system?

Yes indeed, Emotiva products are amazing in performance...I will definitely be keeping mine in my system!
post #1697 of 3159
Good afternoon BB, yes sir you will have the best time of your hobby hitting the CEDIA show, Just make sure you bring a whole roll of paper towels to clean up all of the drooling that will be coming out of your mouth.

We are fortunate down here in the ATL area and have one of the Magnolia Design Centers nearby. Now if I can just find some time to visit it after I freeze all of my credit cards first. tongue.gif
post #1698 of 3159
Hey Brolic...

When are those new speakers going to grace your HT? wink.gif
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Good afternoon BB, yes sir you will have the best time of your hobby hitting the CEDIA show, Just make sure you bring a whole roll of paper towels to clean up all of the drooling that will be coming out of your mouth.

We are fortunate down here in the ATL area and have one of the Magnolia Design Centers nearby. Now if I can just find some time to visit it after I freeze all of my credit cards first. tongue.gif

Hey bro, I think I'm just going to wear a Bib for the whole show!
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Hey Brolic...

When are those new speakers going to grace your HT? wink.gif

Still on track for April!
post #1700 of 3159
Grettings Gents,

Matt,

When in April are they to be welcomed to you house? we're now 9 days away from April, well make that 10 as I don't think you'll get them in for April's fools day.biggrin.gif

Al
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Brolic,

Did you decide on the Triad Platinums as well?
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Grettings Gents,

Matt,

When in April are they to be welcomed to you house? we're now 9 days away from April, well make that 10 as I don't think you'll get them in for April's fools day.biggrin.gif

Al

Greetings Al, how have you been? Well, actual delivery depends on Legacy, once I send payment. I'm going with a Rosewood cabinet BUT with a nice Black Pearl baffle, and that combination might take some time to do.
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Brolic,

Did you decide on the Triad Platinums as well?

Nah, had to pass on the Plats. Pursuing them would have been fiscally irresponsible of me.
post #1704 of 3159
April huh? Should be a nice spring for you. I am looking forward to your thoughts and the video you will post. I am sure they will sound great.
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Legacies are coming. That's a thread title waiting to happen, you know (maybe with an exclamation point . . .).

Congratulations on the Legacy speakers. Never even having heard them, I know they'll be serious and a strong addition to your set-up.
post #1706 of 3159
Looks like we all are anticipating your latest acquisitions lol!!!! I do look forward to seeing that color combination you are going with.

I think the lights will have to stay on while running those babies biggrin.gif !!!
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Brolic,

Thought you might be interested to know that I called a sales rep at Integra, and asked about their 2013 line. The gentleman explained that this is the first time in 5 years that their will not be a product refresh for most of their line. For the time being, the newly released DTR 70.4 is the current feature flagship. He was not sure if there would be a scheduled 80.4, or if they would jump to an 80.5 next year. Given that Onkyo is also refreshing their products every year (they just announced a "727", which leads me to believe their flagship version will be later announced in the summer as the "5011", or some variation"), I assumed Integra had the same upgrade schedule. Apparently not. This was one of the deciding factors in my purchase of the Denon 4520.
post #1708 of 3159
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Sarge, I don't want to hi-jack Brolic's thread, but please keep us posted about the 4520. I've been reading and hearing lot's of negatives about it. Thanks!!
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Sarge, I don't want to hi-jack Brolic's thread, but please keep us posted about the 4520. I've been reading and hearing lot's of negatives about it. Thanks!!

I have been following the 4520 thread for months, and have also seen the various quality control issues. There was even a recent post by a Marantz 8801 owner that some of the same exact bugs are found in that unit as well. This is no surprise since they share the same platform (same DACs, codecs, specs, etc) with the exception of XLRs, though I am quite shocked that with the $1100 price premium between both models, the issues are still present.

The reason I brought up the whole Integra point was that Integra was my fallback plan in case the Denon took a dump. The 4520 might be the flagship Denon for the next year or two as the 4311 has been for the last 2 years, with no upgrade in sight. I would rather not risk some of the Onkyo issues I have followed over the years. I have been a Pioneer man for nearly a decade, but do not want to go back to their MCACC room correction. That just leaves Integra and Denon in the mix. Finding an unhappy Integra owner is nonexistent, and I like those reliability odds. However, I would prefer having a current generation processor.

With that said, I have read a lot of wonderful reviews from happy owners. I am hoping that the thread is just the small minority of owners with issues, and that there is no larger issue present. I should also mention, I called Denon as well and they claimed to not be aware of any issues with the 4520.

I just picked up the unit yesterday actually, and will probably start connecting everything sometime this week. I will definitely keep people posted. For the record, I noticed the ship date on the box was February 13th. More to follow.
post #1710 of 3159
I have had a 4520 since before Christmas and have had zero issues with mine. Now, I will say that I am only using mine as a pre-amp...so I don't know if I have any issues with parts of the unit I am not using.

All in all, I have enjoyed this unit MUCH more than my previous Onkyo 5508 and 5509...both gave me all kinds of fits.

I don't notice a difference between the RCA's and XLR inputs, since my run is so short..
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