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Matt after he lights up those amps and new Speakers!! LOL





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LOLLLLLL, that's hilarious!!!

Of course I drove all the way home to do some listening and drove all the way back to the office afterward. Worth it? Heck-to-the-Yeah!!! cool.gifbiggrin.gifwink.gif
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Man, it sounds amazing. Everything comes together to make one sphere of sound around me. They are handling anything I throw at them with ease...these will probably be the last amps I'll ever need to own. I don't know how they do it either.....They must have a Chief Magic Officer (CMO) on their executive team...

Part of it is they sell direct, and their stuff is built overseas. That keeps costs down.

Back to the hum: if the satellite box is the initial culprit, it could pass the hum to anything hooked up to it (TV, video processor, etc.), which could pass it on to something else. Before my re-config, the hum would appear depending upon which input on my Duo I was using. I eliminated it from the main system, but it would come through the TV's speakers.
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Part of it is they sell direct, and their stuff is built overseas. That keeps costs down.

Back to the hum: if the satellite box is the initial culprit, it could pass the hum to anything hooked up to it (TV, video processor, etc.), which could pass it on to something else. Before my re-config, the hum would appear depending upon which input on my Duo I was using. I eliminated it from the main system, but it would come through the TV's speakers.

Very true. Outsourced labor and direct sales can keep product costs down significantly and I need to thank Emotiva for those savings on the consumer end! As long as it's made well and performes well, I'm a happy camper. You know, the sattelite receiver is actually the one and only product that I would use a cheater plug for. I don't watch normal TV critically at all. It should be interesting to see what happens once I take it out of the chain though. My goodness--it was impacted by something as [seemingly] insignificant as which duo input was selected?? That's just scary! It literally could be anything!!
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Man, it sounds amazing. Everything comes together to make one sphere of sound around me. They are handling anything I throw at them with ease...these will probably be the last amps I'll ever need to own. I don't know how they do it either.....They must have a Chief Magic Officer (CMO) on their executive team...

Parasound who?

I'm glad you took this route vs the JC-1. It would have been tough seeing you make that purchase.
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Very true. Outsourced labor and direct sales can keep product costs down significantly and I need to thank Emotiva for those savings on the consumer end! As long as it's made well and performes well, I'm a happy camper. You know, the sattelite receiver is actually the one and only product that I would use a cheater plug for. I don't watch normal TV critically at all. It should be interesting to see what happens once I take it out of the chain though. My goodness--it was impacted by something as [seemingly] insignificant as which duo input was selected?? That's just scary! It literally could be anything!!

And confusing. If I switched inputs from the cable box to my Oppo 83, the hum went away. With another source, I might still hear the hum if I got close to the speakers. Since lifting grounds on your amps isn't an option, try the satellite box, VP, or perhaps the preamp/processor, since everything goes through it.
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Parasound who?

I'm glad you took this route vs the JC-1. It would have been tough seeing you make that purchase.

No love for Parasound ? Class A sound up to 25 watts can be a beautiful sounding thing ! but yeah I know the price compared to the Emotiva rolleyes.gif but compare their price to the likes of which they are compared and all is relative !

but as long as he's happy , all is well ! wink.gif
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I've been looking through this thread and I noticed with the 2.35 screen that you don't use a anamorphic lens added on to the jvc projector. I thought that was I requirement for that type of screen? I know you have the lumagen but, that just plays with the image, even though it does it well.
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I've been looking through this thread and I noticed with the 2.35 screen that you don't use a anamorphic lens added on to the jvc projector. I thought that was I requirement for that type of screen? I know you have the lumagen but, that just plays with the image, even though it does it well.

The only way to get a pixel-perfect image is with native 2:35 projector, which generally cost tens of thousands of dollars. Anamorphic lenses play with the image as well by stretching an already streched (vertically in the projector) image. This can introduce artifacts in the stretching process (pincushion effect) which, at my 12 foot throw distance and 10 foot wide screen, would almost certainly be my case. I zoom the projector to fill the 2:35 screen, so no processing is occuring at this point. It's in the stretching of 16:9 content to fill the 2:35 screen that the processing occurs, but there are no artifacts involved.
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And confusing. If I switched inputs from the cable box to my Oppo 83, the hum went away. With another source, I might still hear the hum if I got close to the speakers. Since lifting grounds on your amps isn't an option, try the satellite box, VP, or perhaps the preamp/processor, since everything goes through it.

Unfortunately, eliminating the sattelite box from the chain did nothing for the GLH. My system is deceptively complex (thanks to the Lumagen, use of both Oppo inputs, and a few other factors) and to weed out the problem component by component--especially when factors as small as HDMI input selection can play a role--would take weeks, literally. I think I'm going to shoot for some Jensen transformers that an AVS member has very kindly introduced me to. Given their price, I'd certainly hope that they work and work well. The strange thing is, the only new additions to the entire house were two new outlets; however, I'm getting the hum from my center channel as well, which is being powered by an amp plugged into a completely different circuit. So it can't be the outlets that are the culprits.
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Originally Posted by popalock View Post

Parasound who?

I'm glad you took this route vs the JC-1. It would have been tough seeing you make that purchase.

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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

No love for Parasound ? Class A sound up to 25 watts can be a beautiful sounding thing ! but yeah I know the price compared to the Emotiva rolleyes.gif but compare their price to the likes of which they are compared and all is relative !

but as long as he's happy , all is well ! wink.gif

I'm going to shed some light onto the way my mind operates:

I have no doubt that the Parasound is a stellar performer--its amps are legendary; however, for the same money, I could have still purchased my current XPR-1's and David Bott's brand new Anthem Statement D2V-3D, and still would have had $500 left over after the dust settled. Or, I could have purchased a pair of Legacy Signature SE towers for use as surround channels. For me, its less a question of "is this product worth the cost" and more a question of "is this product worth missing out on other possible purchases for the same cost"--a point of view that stresses my girlfriend out sometimes when I try to convince her why she does not need more shoes. wink.gif Now, if this were between the XPA-5 and the A51, I'd have gone with the A51 because it has more power, which my speakers needed; however, in the monblock realm, the XPR-1 had gobs more power, higher aesthetic value, and was topped off my favorable reviews (which mean a lot when I can't hear a product for myself)--this is on top of the fact that my previous experience with owning Emotiva gear has been stellar.

Just sharing some insight into the way my mind works--I'm always thinking "what can I get for this same money." I still may end up with a pair of used JC-1's eventually, as I'm contemplating building a dedicated music room (no subs) with another pair of Legacy Focus SE speakers. If I do go this route, I'd treat the room extensively (it's a perfect, sealed rectangle) and would get a Parasound Halo JC-2 pre-amp, a pair of pre-owned JC-1 monoblocks (I'm not running any 20Amp circuits upstairs to accomodate more XPR-1's) and the Cambridge Audio Azur 752 Universal Disc Player (based on the current crop of Oppos)

Also, I have been giving a lot of praise to the XPR-1's, but I'd like to add that the XPA-1 monoblock powering my center channel is absolutely stellar as well. The best center channel demo I've ever witnessed is the chase scene from Spielberg's TIn Tin. There's just so much going on, but it's a real treat and the XPA-1 delivers it iperfectly.
Edited by BrolicBeast - 6/17/13 at 8:02am
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Hey Matt, it's great that you are enjoying your system so much. Me, I am going nuts trying to chase down some video gremlins I have. It is driving me absolutely insane. But, I have a plan even though I don't like it, that I will be following to try and track down the issue. Anyway, go on enjoying that system. As I said, I am sure it sounds fantastic.
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Hey Matt, I saw your vid the other night your speakers look sensational congratulations man, awesome stuff. I see your also getting ready for some new amps cool.gif

How are you finding the Marantz? Are you still planning to do heights and wide channels?
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The new setup looks great, man! Enjoy those beasts. cool.gif
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Unfortunately, eliminating the sattelite box from the chain did nothing for the GLH. My system is deceptively complex (thanks to the Lumagen, use of both Oppo inputs, and a few other factors) and to weed out the problem component by component--especially when factors as small as HDMI input selection can play a role--would take weeks, literally. I think I'm going to shoot for some Jensen transformers that an AVS member has very kindly introduced me to. Given their price, I'd certainly hope that they work and work well. The strange thing is, the only new additions to the entire house were two new outlets; however, I'm getting the hum from my center channel as well, which is being powered by an amp plugged into a completely different circuit. So it can't be the outlets that are the culprits.

Does the Lumagen have a three-pronged plug?
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

Hey Matt, it's great that you are enjoying your system so much. Me, I am going nuts trying to chase down some video gremlins I have. It is driving me absolutely insane. But, I have a plan even though I don't like it, that I will be following to try and track down the issue. Anyway, go on enjoying that system. As I said, I am sure it sounds fantastic.

Hey Mike, sorry to hear about the video gremlins man....but I'm sure a guy with your level of expertise will have it solved in no-time.
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Hey Matt, I saw your vid the other night your speakers look sensational congratulations man, awesome stuff. I see your also getting ready for some new amps cool.gif

How are you finding the Marantz? Are you still planning to do heights and wide channels?

But alas, I bid thee gratitude and good tidings for thine kind words smile.gif Ah, my amps have already arrived :-) if you go one page back in this threat, you'll see the Emotiva XPR-1 monoblocks, which are--incidentally--the same size as the house I grew up in! lol. Massive size, massive sound! I do plan to do heights--I have the room pre-wired for the wides and I just need to bring myself to allocate funds to securing a pair of Signature SE's for wide channel duty.

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The new setup looks great, man! Enjoy those beasts. cool.gif

Thanks gorrilla! When are we going to see more pics of your "Silverbacks?" Great screen progress, btw.
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Does the Lumagen have a three-pronged plug?

That's a good question. I don't think so, but I'll check to make sure when I get home from work today.
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Hey Matt I've just recently acquired the Marantz av8801 and I'm looking at getting the mini due to incompatible issues with Dvdo and marantz. The question I would like to ask is

Where is the mini in the chain? I was thinking running all my players on the marantz and then to mini then to projector but I'm concerned of lip sync issues

Thanks
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Those look Amps look absolutely stunning and I bet sound amazing as well. You have a system to be proud of mate:). Congrats are in order
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SIgnature SEs for wides eek.gifeek.gifeek.gif
If I haven't told you before, I will say it now.
You are THE MAN !!!!
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Hey Mike, sorry to hear about the video gremlins man....but I'm sure a guy with your level of expertise will have it solved in no-time.
So I was able to fool you too tongue.gif. I am no expert. While I will admit that I am knowledgeable, there are plenty who know way more then me. Plus, I can't easily work on my own system so that makes it even harder. It is going to be a real pain. I mean, I have to process of elimination which will not be fun. Oh well. I have to do it
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Hey Matt I've just recently acquired the Marantz av8801 and I'm looking at getting the mini due to incompatible issues with Dvdo and marantz. The question I would like to ask is

Where is the mini in the chain? I was thinking running all my players on the marantz and then to mini then to projector but I'm concerned of lip sync issues

Thanks

Congrats on the 8801 acquisition!!! My Mini3D is the penultimate device in my video signal chain. Only the Darblet stands between the Mini3D and the projector. I don't think you'll encounter lip sync issues, but if you do (I believe Seth did), the Mini3D has two inputs, and with your Oppo, you can always separate the streams (HDMI for video goes through Mini3D while the HDMI-2 (Audio) goes to Marantz, which send the signal to amps. that is how my blu ray chain is setup. Input one gets a direct connection from my Oppo, and the Marantz gets the Oppo's audio, as well as the audio and video signals from all my other components (except for HTPC and Xbox 360, which are plugged into my 105's HDMI inputs and, thus, benefit from the Oppo's separated A/V signal paths.)
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Those look Amps look absolutely stunning and I bet sound amazing as well. You have a system to be proud of mate:). Congrats are in order

Thanks Frank--I definitely appreciate it man! smile.gif the coolest thing is, when I'm ready to do some critical movie viewing,I can turn all the lights on the amp off with the touch of a button. I'm just trying to find a non-battery powered IR or RF-based 12V trigger solution, as right now--I have to turn the amps on manually when I'm ready to use them since I couldn't find 12v trigger cables long enough to reach the front of the room.
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Congrats on the 8801 acquisition!!! My Mini3D is the penultimate device in my video signal chain. Only the Darblet stands between the Mini3D and the projector. I don't think you'll encounter lip sync issues, but if you do (I believe Seth did), the Mini3D has two inputs, and with your Oppo, you can always separate the streams (HDMI for video goes through Mini3D while the HDMI-2 (Audio) goes to Marantz, which send the signal to amps. that is how my blu ray chain is setup. Input one gets a direct connection from my Oppo, and the Marantz gets the Oppo's audio, as well as the audio and video signals from all my other components (except for HTPC and Xbox 360, which are plugged into my 105's HDMI inputs and, thus, benefit from the Oppo's separated A/V signal paths.)
Thanks Frank--I definitely appreciate it man! smile.gif the coolest thing is, when I'm ready to do some critical movie viewing,I can turn all the lights on the amp off with the touch of a button. I'm just trying to find a non-battery powered IR or RF-based 12V trigger solution, as right now--I have to turn the amps on manually when I'm ready to use them since I couldn't find 12v trigger cables long enough to reach the front of the room.

You might be able to get them custom made for you shouldn't cost much.
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SIgnature SEs for wides eek.gifeek.gifeek.gif
If I haven't told you before, I will say it now.
You are THE MAN !!!!

lolol.....I won't be the man until my job takes me to Brazil like some people I know cool.gif
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So I was able to fool you too tongue.gif. I am no expert. While I will admit that I am knowledgeable, there are plenty who know way more then me. Plus, I can't easily work on my own system so that makes it even harder. It is going to be a real pain. I mean, I have to process of elimination which will not be fun. Oh well. I have to do it

Ah yes, the dreaded process of elimination. It can take forever for folks with systems as "busy" as ours. but I do believe you'll find out what the issue is. So keep my sanity, what I used to do when trouble shooting back when I was using a Plasma was run an extra long HDMI cable from my display to my gear and I'd just do the necessary cable swaps/insertions/removals in the equipment room and I'd position three mirrors at slight angles so they would relay my plasma on my front wall and I could view it from the equiment room. It took a lot of positioning to get it just right, but it worked wonders. You could probably just put a mirror on your main LP, and work behind the rack until you're finished troubleshooting.
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You might be able to get them custom made for you shouldn't cost much.

I should look into that. I don't know why "custom" never pops in my head when I need something. It was prepresses suggestion that have a custom power cord made at the length I needed that led me to place that order, thus enabling me to put my amps up front.
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Good Lord man you're on fire! Did you win the lotto and not tell us? lol. Your system has grown so much in the past year and it's astounding what it's come to. You're truly entering the realm of the high end home theater and it's cool to see the progress. I'm excited for you. So when are you going for dual monoblocks for each front? lol
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Good Lord man you're on fire! Did you win the lotto and not tell us? lol. Your system has grown so much in the past year and it's astounding what it's come to. You're truly entering the realm of the high end home theater and it's cool to see the progress. I'm excited for you. So when are you going for dual monoblocks for each front? lol

Lololol...oh no, no lottery playing on this end. I've just become very serious about establishing a theater where I don't wonder "what if?" before taking life's next steps (marriage, entrepreneurship, etc.)...for instance, I haven't purchased a blu ray in months......normally, I'd scoop at least three or four in a month. That's now a few hundred bucks that I can (and will) re-allocate to, say, XTZ pro. It's all about prioritizing for me. Lolllll...man it's funny you mention that because I was seriously considering dual monoblocks for the front channels, until prepress warned that more than two 20 amp circuits could introduce a hum. The article he referenced was sound and I also remember following his ground hum issues a couple of years back, so I heeded the voice of experience.
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Uh, whoah...... I got my digital edition of Stereophile and, as always, I go to my favorite column first (Music in the Round). I read something very disturbing....Audyssey downmixes all high resolution sampling rates (96/24, 192/24, etc.) to 48/24!!! I'm currently enjoying my music without Audyssey (it's so tedious, I'm waiting until I get some subs so I can run it only once) and I will likely continue running without Audyssey......I'm pretty sure I'll definitely be going to be going with DiracLive eq software now.
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Uh, whoah...... I got my digital edition of Stereophile and, as always, I go to my favorite column first (Music in the Round). I read something very disturbing....Audyssey downmixes all high resolution sampling rates (96/24, 192/24, etc.) to 48/24!!! I'm currently enjoying my music without Audyssey (it's so tedious, I'm waiting until I get some subs so I can run it only once) and I will likely continue running without Audyssey......I'm pretty sure I'll definitely be going to be going with DiracLive eq software now.

Brolic,

What does this mean? Do you know how/why this is important, or are you simply assuming higher is better?

Don't click on the spoiler alert until after you post your response.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I asked the same question here. Read down the thread a bit as I found it very informative in relation to the meaning behind sampling rates...

j/k, you can click away...

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What ever happen to your submersive subs? and svs?.

:)

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What ever happen to your submersive subs? and svs?.
smile.gif
Here's the REAL story.
The girlfriend found out how much Brolic was going to spend on the Legacy's and she put her foot down and said: "Boy, if you don't get me a really expensive gift, a gift so grand and expensive, it will make all my friend jealous... We are going to have problems".. So Brolic being terrified of an angry girlfriend started selling off everything he could find to get that gift.
Don't believe the stories that he sold the subs to buy new gear.
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