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post #2551 of 3166
I not knocking Jeff and Jtr as I had Triple 8'a and Jeff drove all the way to PA to help me set them up. If you need tons of output then yes they are one of the few options you have. But in normal sized to smaller rooms like mine (1800 cubic feet) many speakers provide me with the dynamics I need. After that step is completed its about sound quality. The compression driver in my triple 8's was very clear and non fatiguing but I never had interest in listening to music or popping in different movies that I've already seen just to experience them again. Long story short they just weren't emotionally involving and never moved me. Just very clinical and non fatiguing. Measurements only tell part of the story and when it comes to the Plats they are the only speaker that have unlimited dynamics and audiophile sound which I've found over my years in this hobby to be very rare. Demoing at a dealership or someone else's house or blind tests aren't the same as living with something and getting time to listen to them critically day after day to form an unbiased opinion.
post #2552 of 3166
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Can anyone explain to me why I'm having trouble finding ANY information on CEDIA 2013 updates? Many sites brag about frequent updates, but I'm only coming across minor things like Roku updates and the like. It's a three day show, so each day should be packed with updates....

Sony VPL-VW500ES...JVC DLA-RSXX.....where are you??? mad.gif

Matt, I think today was very limited with almost no company booths open (maybe some private events,etc..) . I think the first real/full day is tomorrow. I am sure the info will start to flow soon.
post #2553 of 3166
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Th basement has been cut into two halves--the left half is where the rec room and unfinished narrow room are located; the right half (not pictured) contains a series of extra useable rooms, the HVAC room, and a finished bathroom (I'll probably make it a visitor's suite and I plan to use one of the rooms as a music room). After fervently browsing the Dedicated Design and Build thread over the last few weeks, I'm not sure I'd classify 17x18 as *small* in the context of a room dedicated just to the home theater experience, but that's just my POV. The whole rec room measures in at 18x28, but those measurements are offset at the point where I plan to build the enclosing wall due our additing a morning room on the first level. That addition requred some minor changes to our original design (the house is currently being built) and it narrowed the 11x27 room to it's current width. What makes you think the Plats are a poor choice in the 17x18 room? I welcome all criticism and advice, as I want to build this next room to be the best room possible.

I do plan to contact the Erskine Goup for their $4k package (forget it's name)...I definitely couldn't do a complete design on my own. i just don't know enough about acoustics.

My post was not meant as a criticism and it was primarily the narrower layout that appeared cramped. The Plats are probably "overkill" in that mid-sized room and IMHO, little is gained by utilizing them although I see that you already have them so I suppose the point is moot.

Overkill is subjective and I have a bit of that myself so I of all people should not be accusing anyone of overkill. I'm sure the Plats are great speakers and hope you get the room and sound you want.
post #2554 of 3166
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Originally Posted by mankite View Post

I not knocking Jeff and Jtr as I had Triple 8'a and Jeff drove all the way to PA to help me set them up. If you need tons of output then yes they are one of the few options you have. But in normal sized to smaller rooms like mine (1800 cubic feet) many speakers provide me with the dynamics I need. After that step is completed its about sound quality. The compression driver in my triple 8's was very clear and non fatiguing but I never had interest in listening to music or popping in different movies that I've already seen just to experience them again. Long story short they just weren't emotionally involving and never moved me. Just very clinical and non fatiguing. Measurements only tell part of the story and when it comes to the Plats they are the only speaker that have unlimited dynamics and audiophile sound which I've found over my years in this hobby to be very rare. Demoing at a dealership or someone else's house or blind tests aren't the same as living with something and getting time to listen to them critically day after day to form an unbiased opinion.
I would agre with that assessment of the T8's also. I would also say the noesis are the most addicting speaker I have heard for mid bas, mid range and the upper end for music. but I do like it heavy and loud:D and yes I have had dome tweeters but thank god they were not playing at my house last weekend or it would have been more like frying not playing:eek:
post #2555 of 3166
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My hopes and dreams have been dashed against the jagged rocks beneath the stony cliff of affordability. The Sony 600ES price has been released. frown.gif

I was hoping for a $10k price point, but I just can't stomach a $15k price-point for something that won't last me at least fifteen years. It looks like Epson's high-end model might be the ticket with an unheard-of 6000 lumens; I just need more details on this flamethrower; I can't imagine deep black levels with a 6000 lumen output, although I could certainly be wrong. JVC seems to be more of the same (except for the dynamic iris).

...and the search for a projector to birghtly fill a 13' screen continues. I'm not one to compromise on requirements for the sake of availability, or lack thereof. I'll use a plasma TV if I have to, until I find the right projector...
post #2556 of 3166
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

My hopes and dreams have been dashed against the jagged rocks beneath the stony cliff of affordability. The Sony 600ES price has been released. frown.gif

I was hoping for a $10k price point, but I just can't stomach a $15k price-point for something that won't last me at least fifteen years. It looks like Epson's high-end model might be the ticket with an unheard-of 6000 lumens; I just need more details on this flamethrower; I can't imagine deep black levels with a 6000 lumen output, although I could certainly be wrong. JVC seems to be more of the same (except for the dynamic iris).

...and the search for a projector to birghtly fill a 13' screen continues. I'm not one to compromise on requirements for the sake of availability, or lack thereof. I'll use a plasma TV if I have to, until I find the right projector...

At least 15 years....did you mean 15 days Matt ??? tongue.gif
post #2557 of 3166
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

At least 15 years....did you mean 15 days Matt ??? tongue.gif

LOL!!! Dude, I actually laughed out loud in the office at that one! lolol biggrin.gif:D:D

I'd hold onto this one until 8k material was available......or until next year's model was available in a different hue of grey. lol.
post #2558 of 3166
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

LOL!!! Dude, I actually laughed out loud in the office at that one! lolol biggrin.gif:D:D

I'd hold onto this one until 8k material was available......or until next year's model was available in a different hue of grey. lol.

None of my business but your overall budget seems pretty big for these projects. I am surprised you wouldn't allocate more to a great shiny new projector (like the new Sony 4k) and a little less for audio to strike a more even balance. Either way, I know you are building a couple of killer systems for the new house.
post #2559 of 3166
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

None of my business but your overall budget seems pretty big for these projects. I am surprised you wouldn't allocate more to a great shiny new projector (like the new Sony 4k) and a little less for audio to strike a more even balance. Either way, I know you are building a couple of killer systems for the new house.

Time is my only friend when it comes to theater budget. I refuse to put any of HT equipment on a credit card; and, since I'm not a wealthy guy [not yet...until I invent the self-cleaning diaper], it often takes me a few months to actually make any large purchase. I generally invest more in audio than I do in video becasue audio gear tends to last longer--decades! For instance, Prepress has had his Mirage speakers for about twenty years! Video products don't last nearly as long (add to that Pre/Pros) so although I still invest a lot of $ (to me) in video products, audio products shall always be a priority!
post #2560 of 3166
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It's time to program two overarching movie categories in Jriver: HD and UHD. The revolution starts in 2014...UHD is here for real...
post #2561 of 3166
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Time is my only friend when it comes to theater budget. I refuse to put any of HT equipment on a credit card; and, since I'm not a wealthy guy [not yet...until I invent the self-cleaning diaper], it often takes me a few months to actually make any large purchase. I generally invest more in audio than I do in video becasue audio gear tends to last longer--decades! For instance, Prepress has had his Mirage speakers for about twenty years! Video products don't last nearly as long (add to that Pre/Pros) so although I still invest a lot of $ (to me) in video products, audio products shall always be a priority!
My thoughts exactly. I have only done that once and the balance was very small. Or if I wanted something very badly but I knew there was going to be significant price increase. Otherwise, I just save until I can afford it. No matter how long it takes. I have no problem waiting months or longer.
post #2562 of 3166
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Time is my only friend when it comes to theater budget. I refuse to put any of HT equipment on a credit card; and, since I'm not a wealthy guy [not yet...until I invent the self-cleaning diaper], it often takes me a few months to actually make any large purchase. I generally invest more in audio than I do in video becasue audio gear tends to last longer--decades! For instance, Prepress has had his Mirage speakers for about twenty years! Video products don't last nearly as long (add to that Pre/Pros) so although I still invest a lot of $ (to me) in video products, audio products shall always be a priority!

. . . And they sounded really good with the Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox BD tonight.

I've bought a lot of gear in the last 5 years, and I did put it on a credit card, but paid the bills in full when they came. So no debt. Plus, I can see the effect on my checking account, so I don't get fooled by bleeding off pieces at a time (I could really see it when I paid for those Mac 501s! Ouch!). I think you're going about this in the right way. And going into a marriage with debt isn't a good idea anyway.

By the way, never mind the self-cleaning diaper, I'd settle for the self-dusting room . . .
Edited by prepress - 9/28/13 at 2:51am
post #2563 of 3166
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Originally Posted by MIkeDuke View Post

My thoughts exactly. I have only done that once and the balance was very small. Or if I wanted something very badly but I knew there was going to be significant price increase. Otherwise, I just save until I can afford it. No matter how long it takes. I have no problem waiting months or longer.

Yes. if I were going to have a balance on a card, I would have to be able to pay it off in three payments max, otherwise it would be time to look for an alternative or scrap the idea.
post #2564 of 3166
I am with Brolic and the rest of you guys that if isn't cash it doesn't happen for me.

Great Policy!!!!
post #2565 of 3166
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...By the way, never mind the self-cleaning diaper, I'd settle for the self-dusting room . . .

HA!!! Now that would be marvelous! wink.gif
post #2566 of 3166
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Well, after much pondering, I’ve decided that I’m going to go JVC. I visited a fellow forum member’s theater yesterday; he had a nearly 12-foot 2:35 AT screen being lit-up by a JVC 4810, and the picture was more than bright enough with the lamp in normal mode. I can’t see an additional foot in width impacting the brightness at all. I tell myself I want to pursue the Sony 600ES, but then I ask myself “who am I kidding.” $15k for a projector? Not me, not now.

Looks like the RS57 is a more likely candidate. My RS56 was a spectacular in every regard, so I can only adore the RS57 with its slightly up-ticked specs. Is it true 4k, not at all......but given the three year dance of RedRay (still unreleased), I'm not sure content will be available before I'll be ready for my next projector upgrade anyway. (The Sony 4k download store doesn't count, as they insist on alienating consumers with their proprietary methods.)
post #2567 of 3166
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Well, after much pondering, I’ve decided that I’m going to go JVC. I visited a fellow forum member’s theater yesterday; he had a nearly 12-foot 2:35 AT screen being lit-up by a JVC 4810, and the picture was more than bright enough with the lamp in normal mode. I can’t see an additional foot in width impacting the brightness at all. I tell myself I want to pursue the Sony 600ES, but then I ask myself “who am I kidding.” $15k for a projector? Not me, not now.

Looks like the RS57 is a more likely candidate. My RS56 was a spectacular in every regard, so I can only adore the RS57 with its slightly up-ticked specs. Is it true 4k, not at all......but given the three year dance of RedRay (still unreleased), I'm not sure content will be available before I'll be ready for my next projector upgrade anyway. (The Sony 4k download store doesn't count, as they insist on alienating consumers with their proprietary methods.)

Guess I am glad you decided to sell your old projector when you did...LOL

Had you come to the realization sooner, you might have held onto your old one and I would still have my RS-40.

Now that OPPO is releasing a darbee enhanced player, are you going to get one of those too? wink.gif

BTW..... Between my crazier than ever work/travel schedule, Georgia football trips, family birthday parties out of town and work around the house.....Only one movie was viewed on the new projector, Safe Haven, during ladies night. .

At this point, it might be this Sunday night before I am able to watch a movie....
post #2568 of 3166
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Originally Posted by COACH2369 View Post

Guess I am glad you decided to sell your old projector when you did...LOL

Had you come to the realization sooner, you might have held onto your old one and I would still have my RS-40.

Now that OPPO is releasing a darbee enhanced player, are you going to get one of those too? wink.gif

BTW..... Between my crazier than ever work/travel schedule, Georgia football trips, family birthday parties out of town and work around the house.....Only one movie was viewed on the new projector, Safe Haven, during ladies night. .

At this point, it might be this Sunday night before I am able to watch a movie....

LOL..man, I actually could have sworn the $10k rumors for the Sony 600ES were true. $15k is just obscene for any technology that doesn’t make me tea, control my theater, and iron my boxers for me. I was planning to completely skip JVC this year in favor of the Sony, so if I knew about the JVC slimovation (new word), I still would have sold with the intent to get the Sony. Disappointment was inevitable.

I may scoop up that new 103d model indeed…I’m just waiting to see if Oppo is going to release a new player for 2014. Something tells me they probably won’t, as they likely would have announced it at CEDIA.

Oh man, only one movie?...and THAT movie? In the great, falsely inserted words of Darth Vader: “Nooooooooooooo.” eek.gif

You’ve got to feed it…..the beast must be fed!
post #2569 of 3166
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Dear U.S. Government: Legislative Branch,

Stop the foolishness. Immediately.

Sincerely,

A home theater enthusiast who will move to Canada if his dream of a large, dedicated, soundproofed theater is destroyed due to unpaid furloughs.

P.S. Toronto seems nice...
post #2570 of 3166
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Dear U.S. Government: Legislative Branch,

Stop the foolishness. Immediately.

Sincerely,

A home theater enthusiast who will move to Canada if his dream of a large, dedicated, soundproofed theater is destroyed due to unpaid furloughs.

P.S. Toronto seems nice...

I could not say it better myself !!!

Vancouver is nice as well.
post #2571 of 3166
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Dear U.S. Government: Legislative Branch,

Stop the foolishness. Immediately.

Sincerely,

A home theater enthusiast who will move to Canada if his dream of a large, dedicated, soundproofed theater is destroyed due to unpaid furloughs.

P.S. Toronto seems nice...

Absolutely. It's foolishness.
post #2572 of 3166
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Warning: Brain Dump Initiation:

Interestingly enough, in thinking that I have about 5 months until move-in, the Sony 600ES is back on the radar. Theoretically, given the almost half-a-year I have to make it happen (counting from when the government re-opens), it’s actually technically feasible to treat it as a purchase of two high-end components: a projector and a 4k processor.

Oh, the things we do to justify purchases...

But the alternative is getting the RS57 along with a Krell Foundation Preamp…

Another alternative, if I manage to sell pretty much every piece of furniture I own (I've ammased some nice furniture in my almost 8 years in this house), as well as the theater gear I still own (sans speakers and amps), is the pursuit of the Sony 1000ES (while supplies last), which is $3k cheaper than the 1100ES will be. I’d have until March to upgrade the 1000ES hardware to the 1100ES hardware PLUS server and tablet, all for $500 less than the cost of a new 1000ES…and someone would come perform the upgrade for me, free of charge. Hmmmm…

Another alternative is getting the theater room demolition, framing, soundproofing, drywalling, painting, and installation completed in a matter of weeks instead of months...

Another alternative is a new family car…lol just kidding.....I'm going to be driving my car until the wheels fall off and cannot be put back on; the fiance feels the same way about her vehicle.

Planning Brain-Dump: Complete.
post #2573 of 3166
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Auro 3D surround format is coming to the home :-)
post #2574 of 3166
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Oh, the things we do to justify purchases...

Another alternative is a new family car…lol just kidding.....I'm going to be driving my car until the wheels fall off and cannot be put back on; the fiance feels the same way about her vehicle.

Priceless. And an interesting juxtaposition.
post #2575 of 3166
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You know you're an AVS addict when.......you're on Vacation in the Caribbean and AVS is the first site you pull up in the empty indoor lounge. Time to go enjoy the infinite-channel audio presentation of..."The Caribbean Sea." Composer: God. Year: 4000 B.C.
post #2576 of 3166
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

You know you're an AVS addict when.......you're on Vacation in the Caribbean and AVS is the first site you pull up in the empty indoor lounge. Time to go enjoy the infinite-channel audio presentation of..."The Caribbean Sea." Composer: God. Year: 4000 B.C.

Matt, your are not "an addict"...you are "the dealer"...maybe even "the manufacturer" , just saying biggrin.gif
post #2577 of 3166
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Originally Posted by Frohlich View Post

Matt, your are not "an addict"...you are "the dealer"...maybe even "the manufacturer" , just saying biggrin.gif

Lol.....'tis true....I both experience and contribute to my entire AVS addiction lifecycle, lol biggrin.gif
post #2578 of 3166
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Fellow AVS-ers, I've got a question that I hope one or more persons can answer. I am faced with a tough audio decision: an Anthem D2v3D or the Krell Foundation. My requirements are for audio only, as I plan to use Lumagen's next generation of true-UHD processors for all video switching. So, as far as audio goes, if price is not a concern, which would be the better purchase out of pure sound quality, given the following information:

  • I will not engage Anthem's ARC or Krell's ARES room correction suites (I'll be using a Xilica processor for real-time EQ)
  • Given the time-frame of purchase (far-yet-definite in the future), cost is not a factor in this purchase decision
  • I am concerned with MIPS, which is a new concept to me as I haven't heard about MIPS until hearing that the Marantz 8801 had some form of MIP limitation.

Any advice would be most appreciated.
post #2579 of 3166
Would never buy anything Anthem period.
post #2580 of 3166
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Would never buy anything Anthem period.

Really? Why is that? Are they unreliable?
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