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post #361 of 3159
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Just sprung for a Hsu Research ULS-15 to complement the SVS PB-13 Ultra. I've been hearing a lot of good things about this sub. It will will replace my current 2nd sub--an Infinity PS-12. ***Dances for joy*** Hsu still has their holiday sale going. Didn't take long to decide. lol
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

Just sprung for a Hsu Research ULS-15 to complement the SVS PB-13 Ultra. I've been hearing a lot of good things about this sub. It will will replace my current 2nd sub--an Infinity PS-12. ***Dances for joy*** Hsu still has their holiday sale going. Didn't take long to decide. lol

It will be interesting to see how you integrate these two subs. They are both great subs, but their designs are very different. Integrating them will be "challenging".

Craig
post #363 of 3159
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It will be interesting to see how you integrate these two subs. They are both great subs, but their designs are very different. Integrating them will be "challenging".

Craig

***edit*** Ive actually just cancelled the ULS-15 order.....I think that money could be better spent elsewhere.***edit***

But alas, I may run the Svs in sealed move using all three port plugs. I will do lots of experimenting, and if nothing can be done, I'll put it in the upstairs media room, which is currently being served by an emotiva ultra 12 sealed subwoofer. alternately, I may return it and put the $ toward a Fathom sub.......

hmmmm....now the wheels in my brain are churning.....what if I go that route anyway...
post #364 of 3159
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@ Reddig. The hiss you're hearing it's normal. Even higher end gear have it. I hear it on my Pass, but only when I glue my ear to the tweeter. At 4 inches it's gone. However, when I hook up the speakers to the Onkyo directly, the hiss is a bit more pronounced and it increases as I turn up the volume (no music, of course).

Cool thanks for chiming in ddgtr. Makes me feel better and I appreciated your perspective.
post #365 of 3159
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***edit*** Ive actually just cancelled the ULS-15 order.....I think that money could be better spent elsewhere.***edit***

But alas, I may run the Svs in sealed move using all three port plugs. I will do lots of experimenting, and if nothing can be done, I'll put it in the upstairs media room, which is currently being served by an emotiva ultra 12 sealed subwoofer. alternately, I may return it and put the $ toward a Fathom sub.......

hmmmm....now the wheels in my brain are churning.....what if I go that route anyway...

HSU VTF-15H. Can't go wrong and would/should play well with the SVS.
post #366 of 3159
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HSU VTF-15H. Can't go wrong and would/should play well with the SVS.

I've actually scratched the 2nd sub replacement altogether....I think my speakers are the only gear I've been ignoring for the last few years so I should focus on a speaker-upgrade project!!!
post #367 of 3159
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I've actually scratched the 2nd sub replacement altogether....I think my speakers are the only gear I've been ignoring for the last few years so I should focus on a speaker-upgrade project!!!

How about some Swans F2.2+ my friend Brolic?

edit: Then (trust me), you will no longer ever be asking for another sub...
post #368 of 3159
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Integra 80.3 impressions:

the 80.3 is identical to the 80.2 as far as HDMI sound goes, but its analog sound has definitely improved.....and it's video processing has vastly improved. It includes a host of tweaks that improve video for every source--with the exception of the source associated with the Oppo BDP-95, for which I eschew additional processing. Its Audyssey setup is vastly improved as well.

All in all, if you don't plan on upgrading to a 4K projector in the near future and you own an 80.2, keep it. But if you plan on upgrading to a 4k projector soon, the 4k upscaling and 4k passthrough (for future 4k sources) make it a worthy upgrade.

You're killing me BrolicBeast! I bought the 80.2 to keep up with you (in my B room at least). Now you pull this little stunt.

I'll wait a bit before thinking about upgrade plans. For now, the Pioneer Elite plasma at 1080p is good enough. If I upgrade later to a 4K display, then I'll think about the latest and greatest from Integra.

Congrats on the upgrade!
post #369 of 3159
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

***edit*** Ive actually just cancelled the ULS-15 order.....I think that money could be better spent elsewhere.***edit***

But alas, I may run the Svs in sealed move using all three port plugs. I will do lots of experimenting, and if nothing can be done, I'll put it in the upstairs media room, which is currently being served by an emotiva ultra 12 sealed subwoofer. alternately, I may return it and put the $ toward a Fathom sub.......

hmmmm....now the wheels in my brain are churning.....what if I go that route anyway...

I've had Fathoms, and the Submersives are better subs in the 2 most important aspects... extension and output. Within their limits, the JL's are great and their sound quality is excellent. But the Submersives are their equal for SQ and beat them in every other way. The only reason, (IMO), to get Fathoms is if you absolutely need the form factor of the smaller box.

My $0.02.

Craig
post #370 of 3159
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Originally Posted by roadster-s View Post

How about some Swans F2.2+ my friend Brolic?

edit: Then (trust me), you will no longer ever be asking for another sub...

LOL.....man, I'm afraid those Skyscrapers are out of my budget. I'd have to refinance the house just to step into that ball park. lol

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You're killing me BrolicBeast! I bought the 80.2 to keep up with you (in my B room at least). Now you pull this little stunt.

I'll wait a bit before thinking about upgrade plans. For now, the Pioneer Elite plasma at 1080p is good enough. If I upgrade later to a 4K display, then I'll think about the latest and greatest from Integra.

Congrats on the upgrade!

Anybody who keeps an 80.2 in the "B" room is a hero to me. lol
4K displays may be on the horizon....although I doubt they will reach reasonable prices within the next two-to-three years. And even then, a company will need to pump out a reference model before the rest of us jump on it. I totally understand your desire to wait! lol

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Originally Posted by craig john View Post

I've had Fathoms, and the Submersives are better subs in the 2 most important aspects... extension and output. Within their limits, the JL's are great and their sound quality is excellent. But the Submersives are their equal for SQ and beat them in every other way. The only reason, (IMO), to get Fathoms is if you absolutely need the form factor of the smaller box.

My $0.02.

Craig

In my current setup, I'd need their form-factor--but in future dedicated theaters, form factors won't be a factor. I wasn't aware of a reasonable Fathom-beater....I will spend much of this evening researching those Seatons. Thanks for the info.
post #371 of 3159
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Is anybody familiar with Silver Serpent XLR cables from a firm called "Better Cables?"
post #372 of 3159
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Is anybody familiar with Silver Serpent XLR cables from a firm called "Better Cables?"

Yep, those are the ones I'm running on my XPA-1's. All positive, as long as you don't get me into snake oil comments...
post #373 of 3159
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Yep, those are the ones I'm running on my XPA-1's. All positive, as long as you don't get me into snake oil comments...

LOL....I ordered five of the Silver Serpent XLR interconnects this morning, along with a Black Mamba RCA interconnect for the DAC. Glad to know you're running them as well!

Lol...I've seen snake-oil references before on this forum....but I can't recall where.
post #374 of 3159
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LOL....I ordered five of the Silver Serpent XLR interconnects this morning, along with a Black Mamba RCA interconnect for the DAC. Glad to know you're running them as well!

Lol...I've seen snake-oil references before on this forum....but I can't recall where.

If that's Audioquest Black Mamba II you're talking about, I'm using those for my BDP to preamp and preamp to power amp connections. No complaints.
post #375 of 3159
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If that's Audioquest Black Mamba II you're talking about, I'm using those for my BDP to preamp and preamp to power amp connections. No complaints.

Excellent! Is one of those "improve your system" interconnects? Or is it a "gets out of the way of the sound" interconnect?
post #376 of 3159
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Excellent! Is one of those "improve your system" interconnects? Or is it a "gets out of the way of the sound" interconnect?

First, the preamp-power amp connection was replaced with AQ King Cobra. The BM is still feeding my main BDP and is the analog connection from my cable box (!) to the Duo processor. Even with such a modest source, the sound improved over the standard stuff they give you with a cable box, and a bit over the HDMI connection I used before. And I hear that difference going through the TV's audio. Cleaner and crisper is a good description. Off the BD player I get nice, full sound with good detail. Black Mamba would not be out of place in a more expensive setup, I think.

Overall I'd say it's closer to "gets out of the way." I used an organ-brass performance of an old hymn "The Strife is O'er" (one of the few Catholic hymns to make it into the Protestant hymnbook, by the way) and paid attention to how the bass organ pedal at the end was handled. The Black Mamba was a bit fuller on the pre-power connection than Kimber Hero (a classic), and not as full as the King Cobra. Being in the middle, I would say the BM was the most neutral of the three. But that comparison was based upon that one small section; other than that there wasn't a significant difference to my ears. It was also done with my B&K amps; I haven't tried it with the Macs I have now and don't feel the need.
post #377 of 3159
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Originally Posted by BrolicBeast View Post

I've actually scratched the 2nd sub replacement altogether....I think my speakers are the only gear I've been ignoring for the last few years so I should focus on a speaker-upgrade project!!!

Nice man looking forward to seeing what ya get!
post #378 of 3159
Hey BrolicBeast, I am wondering why you have 2 circuits running to your system? I may be looking to moving to separates in a year or two and adding a second sub in the near future and was curious what made you add the second circuit.

thanks
post #379 of 3159
A huge fan of your system and your YouTube videos. I'm hoping you can help me out? Your DacMagic video blew me away and I'm looking to get the same result using my HTPC. Here's my question: will using a soundcard like HT Omega Claro Halo or Asus Xonar XT with the analog outputs to my receiver yield a result similar to the DacMagic or is a DAC type device the only to get sound as amazing as yours?
post #380 of 3159
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First, the preamp-power amp connection was replaced with AQ King Cobra. The BM is still feeding my main BDP and is the analog connection from my cable box (!) to the Duo processor. Even with such a modest source, the sound improved over the standard stuff they give you with a cable box, and a bit over the HDMI connection I used before. And I hear that difference going through the TV's audio. Cleaner and crisper is a good description. Off the BD player I get nice, full sound with good detail. Black Mamba would not be out of place in a more expensive setup, I think.

Overall I'd say it's closer to "gets out of the way." I used an organ-brass performance of an old hymn "The Strife is O'er" (one of the few Catholic hymns to make it into the Protestant hymnbook, by the way) and paid attention to how the bass organ pedal at the end was handled. The Black Mamba was a bit fuller on the pre-power connection than Kimber Hero (a classic), and not as full as the King Cobra. Being in the middle, I would say the BM was the most neutral of the three. But that comparison was based upon that one small section; other than that there wasn't a significant difference to my ears. It was also done with my B&K amps; I haven't tried it with the Macs I have now and don't feel the need.

Thanks for that insight. I just started breaking them in....don't hear any difference yet, although that might just be a testament to the Emotiva RCA cables that they replaced. I won't start really searching for differences for another few days.

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Nice man looking forward to seeing what ya get!

Thanks man....it'll probably be a while. I'm wrapping up my second graduate degree this May, and-of course--I have to spend inordinate amounts of $ on the obligatory familial celebrations. I'd rather just stay home and listen to ten great albums in a row instead of celebrating, but......I already know how that goes.

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Hey BrolicBeast, I am wondering why you have 2 circuits running to your system? I may be looking to moving to separates in a year or two and adding a second sub in the near future and was curious what made you add the second circuit.

thanks

Hey Scout's Staff--that's a cool name, btw. I actually ran the two circuits in preparation for the Anthem Statement P5 amplifier, which requires two separate circuits (and comes with two separate power cords) to get the most out of it. I still plan on getting that Anthem, but right now, the circuits are going unused.

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A huge fan of your system and your YouTube videos. I'm hoping you can help me out? Your DacMagic video blew me away and I'm looking to get the same result using my HTPC. Here's my question: will using a soundcard like HT Omega Claro Halo or Asus Xonar XT with the analog outputs to my receiver yield a result similar to the DacMagic or is a DAC type device the only to get sound as amazing as yours?

Hey man, thanks....glad you like the vids. I have to be honest--I don't fully know the answer to that question, as I literally have never run full analog outputs from a sound-card. before the dac, I just ran a coaxial cable from the computer to the processor and that was it. I would, however, assume that the DAC would still provide superior sound due to its internal clock that re-stabilizes the 1's and 0's. I'm not sure what the quality of those cards are, but if there's anybody on here with experience with computer-based audio and the caliber of the HT Omega and Asus sound cards, please chime in. Sorry I couldn't provide something solid.
post #381 of 3159
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On a personal, but audio-related note, my girlfriend has been sitting in some of my listening sessions and I've been pointing out some excellent recordings........and at a concert this past saturday night, the speakers at the venue began to play music prior to the concert's initiation, and she said "Ugh, louder is not better. Your system sounds way more refined than this, Matt."

and....it gets better.........

Toward the end of the night, the headliner performed a superb medley of Jazz/R&B, and my lady said "She has an audiophile voice. Listen to that texture."

This was music to my ears :-) You guys must understand--this is a woman who, up until a couple years ago, had been listening to compressed mp3 files since the late 90's.....and to hear her comment on music quality simply warmed my Brolic heart. I'm going to slowly turn her into an audiophile. ***Mischievous grin***

Have any of you folks here on WYSC been successful in pulling your significant other into this hobby?
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That is the sign, Brolic! She is the one!! I foresee marriage in the near future! Please do not forget to invite your AV brothers (especially if there's gonna be plenty of booze)...

As for your question: I wouldn't say I was totally successful, but it's as close as I can get if you know what I mean. She does love to have a listen every once in a while and had some good input while we were auditioning the SFs - for a noob that is.
post #383 of 3159
Thanks Brolic, Appreciate the response. I was having a hard time comparing your AV equipment to mine and seeing a large power need difference. I was concerned that I was trying to accomplish too much off of one 15amp circuit. I may add a second circuit for future growth into separates myself. The Anthem P5 is a beast. I had read up on it a few months back. I do not expect to need that much power given my speakers a rated around 200 -225 watts. Although I'm told they can handle a lot.

Glad you like the name - for those who have a dog, you end up working for them. The last time I checked, no one takes me for walks and picked up my poop.....I asked, my wife said no. ; )
post #384 of 3159
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Thanks for that insight. I just started breaking them in....don't hear any difference yet, although that might just be a testament to the Emotiva RCA cables that they replaced. I won't start really searching for differences for another few days.

It's often said that cables need to break in, so if that's true I agree to give it some time. I have found that differences show up more further down the chain, at least to my semi-audiophile ears.
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Have any of you folks here on WYSC been successful in pulling your significant other into this hobby?

My wife is starting to get it, but she still claims that she would be fine with a 13" black and white TV that she used in college. However, she is the first one to remind me to turn on the system when we watch football. I think she likes the stadium sound/energy that it brings.

On the plus side - she is very supportive of the hobby and is nudging me to get the second sub with the Christmas and birthday money recently received. In addition, not very many wives would let you install 8 decent size speakers in the walls of your main living room.
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That is the sign, Brolic! She is the one!! I foresee marriage in the near future! Please do not forget to invite your AV brothers (especially if there's gonna be plenty of booze)...

As for your question: I wouldn't say I was totally successful, but it's as close as I can get if you know what I mean. She does love to have a listen every once in a while and had some good input while we were auditioning the SFs - for a noob that is.

LOL....she may very well be the one indeed :-) I can envision getting speaker upgrade approval from her, as long as I keep her flow of Coach Purses coming, along with whatever else it is that wives love. (Ring upgrades? **shudders in fear**)

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It's often said that cables need to break in, so if that's true I agree to give it some time. I have found that differences show up more further down the chain, at least to my semi-audiophile ears.

I'm pretty sure you've crossed into full audiophile territory long ago!

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My wife is starting to get it, but she still claims that she would be fine with a 13" black and white TV that she used in college. However, she is the first one to remind me to turn on the system when we watch football. I think she likes the stadium sound/energy that it brings.

On the plus side - she is very supportive of the hobby and is nudging me to get the second sub with the Christmas and birthday money recently received. In addition, not very many wives would let you install 8 decent size speakers in the walls of your main living room.

Ah, your situation is ideal!!! She's encouraging you to get a second sub? AND she allowed 8 in-wall speakers in the living room?

Deep down inside, she could not live with a 13" b&w television!!!
post #387 of 3159
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I'm pretty sure you've crossed into full audiophile territory long ago!

Intellectually, philosophically, no. Psychologically, perhaps. I'm not obsessed with having to have the best anything, nor am I in constant upgrade mode, but hanging around forums is dangerous as I could be moved to a purchase eventually; the preamp would be next if that happened, as I've been hanging out some at a forum thread or two about the McIntosh C48. Parasound's JC2 is also on the screen, maybe even the JC3 phono stage. I'm aware of the danger!

I don't recall hearing a difference between cables when inserted from source to preamp, but others report glowingly about that. The places I've heard diferences in a limited way are between preamp/power amp and, to a greater degree, speaker cables. And I didn't necessarily go into "critical" mode to hear them. I have some old Tara Labs Quantum 4 interconnects I'd like to hear on my 501s with that bass organ pedal example mentioned previously. I remember how full and powerful those bass pedals were with the B&Ks; the only reason I'm not using the Quantum 4 now is it's too thick to fit comfortably through the slots in the back of my TV console, which is why I want to get rid of the console, plus better equipment access. I destroyed one Q4 pair trying to squeeze them through the slots, hence the AQ King Cobra and Black Mamba II.

So you may be right about my slippage, but it hasn't reach the definitive portion of my brain just yet. I also know that financial constraints will keep me from getting ridiculous, though perhaps not from an occasional hit-and-run.
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Intellectually, philosophically, no. Psychologically, perhaps. I'm not obsessed with having to have the best anything, nor am I in constant upgrade mode, but hanging around forums is dangerous as I could be moved to a purchase eventually; the preamp would be next if that happened, as I've been hanging out some at a forum thread or two about the McIntosh C48. Parasound's JC2 is also on the screen, maybe even the JC3 phono stage. I'm aware of the danger!

I don't recall hearing a difference between cables when inserted from source to preamp, but others report glowingly about that. The places I've heard diferences in a limited way are between preamp/power amp and, to a greater degree, speaker cables. And I didn't necessarily go into "critical" mode to hear them. I have some old Tara Labs Quantum 4 interconnects I'd like to hear on my 501s with that bass organ pedal example mentioned previously. I remember how full and powerful those bass pedals were with the B&Ks; the only reason I'm not using the Quantum 4 now is it's too thick to fit comfortably through the slots in the back of my TV console, which is why I want to get rid of the console, plus better equipment access. I destroyed one Q4 pair trying to squeeze them through the slots, hence the AQ King Cobra and Black Mamba II.

So you may be right about my slippage, but it hasn't reach the definitive portion of my brain just yet. I also know that financial constraints will keep me from getting ridiculous, though perhaps not from an occasional hit-and-run.

That makes perfect sense. Your gear is certainly audiophile-grade though. The gear is very carefully thought out and selected.
post #389 of 3159
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Ladies and Gents,

I am proud to announce that, after two years of sitting on the sidelines, I have finally taken the dive into 3D projection.

A JVC DLA-RS45U is on its way to my doorstep!!!!

....More to follow, upon arrival.
post #390 of 3159
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Ladies and Gents,

I am proud to announce that, after two years of sitting on the sidelines, I have finally taken the dive into 3D projection.

A JVC DLA-RS45U is on its way to my doorstep!!!!

....More to follow, upon arrival.

Very cool! I visited a friend tonight with an RS-45. It compares very favorably to my RS-55. The 55 has a little more sharpness and smoothness, but the differences are, (IMO, and pre professional calibration), pretty subtle. You are going to LOVE your new projector!

Congrats!!!
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