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post #691 of 1181
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I received my order today in the mail and they look great. I am concerned about the child's play one though it doesn't look like they out a border around it and it's going to be tight.

I'm not good at all with woodworking so this is going to be tough building the frames

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Originally Posted by Soupy1970 View Post

Nice pics! That is Silky Faille correct?

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Originally Posted by Holiday121 View Post

Indeed and they look amazing

You will be hard pressed to stretch those at all with that fabric, unfortunately. Spoonflower prints exactly what they get in the project builder tool that you upload into. Maybe you set it up with a larger format fabric and then switched to something smaller? Did you start with Performance Knit (56" wide) and switch to the Silky Faille (54" wide)?

There are ways to make this work, like putting a "band" of trim fabric around the sides of the frame as a border, or something (put the "poster" fabric on and wrap it around the front edge to look right and yet still go around the end, and then cover the sides with the trim fabric).
post #692 of 1181
I should add that my movie posters were made with Cotton Poplin which is on par with Kona as far as print quality and I am perfectly happy with them. I made my godchild a couple Halo game posters with Kona and he is perfectly happy with them. I used other fabrics on other picture frames I made. The Silky Faille was used on a couple of personal photos as was the Cotton Sateen. The Silky Faille looks more like an actual photo compared to others.

Looking back I will not use the Cotton Poplin, Kona, or Cotton Sateen again. Not that they don't look nice or did not work well. It's just there is better alternatives.
post #693 of 1181
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Originally Posted by Soupy1970 View Post

Both are stretchable. The SF is easily stretched, it's just not super stretchy like the PK. With my swatch sample of PK, I feel I could shoot it across the room like a rubber band (if I took it off the swatch book).

Go ahead and toss a sample book in your order just so you will have one for future projects. I wish they would print the sample swatches instead of sending them plain. I suggested to them that they should consider doing that in the future so people could compare print quality too. I doubt that will happen because that would just be to easy.

Hrm well the 2 guys in here (nick and the guy who posted the Bond poster) both said that they wouldn't make the image less than 1/8" - 1/4" per 25" of poster, meaning that they would only stretch it about that much to get it tight on the frame. That doesn't quite seem "rubber bandy" as you are stating from messing with the swatches.
post #694 of 1181
There might be just enough room on top and bottom (to keep text in front) of the Child's Play poster for him to wrap it with the image wrapping over the edge just like an artist would do. Problem is it will have to be a smaller frame and will not match his other picture unless he does the same with it.
post #695 of 1181
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

Hrm well the 2 guys in here (nick and the guy who posted the Bond poster) both said that they wouldn't make the image less than 1/8" - 1/4" per 25" of poster, meaning that they would only stretch it about that much to get it tight on the frame. That doesn't quite seem "rubber bandy" as you are stating from messing with the swatches.

That would make it tight. You won't have any problems getting the PK to work. Order it and I'm sure you will be happy and it will all work out fine. No need to worry if one is slightly better than the other. They will both work so go with what you originally had planned and know you will be happy.

Edit: It's actually the elasticity that makes it tight. In that respect it's a good thing. The bad thing I can IMAGINE (speculation on my part) is that it is easily stretched in multiple directions that may cause things to get out of whack. If that would or does happen it has been noted by others that it is easily corrected. So no worries go with the PK.
Edited by Soupy1970 - 1/9/14 at 7:49am
post #696 of 1181
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Originally Posted by Soupy1970 View Post

That would make it tight. You won't have any problems getting the PK to work. Order it and I'm sure you will be happy and it will all work out fine. No need to worry if one is slightly better than the other. They will both work so go with what you originally had planned and know you will be happy.

Hah yeah you are right, I'm at the point now that I'm starting to over think this. I just need to take the plunge and be done with it. I am going to order the swatch booklet with the order though for sure, thanks for that recommendation.
post #697 of 1181
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Originally Posted by nickbuol View Post

And PK wouldn't have needed anything or any time to get the creases out. biggrin.gif

Just making sure that someone here (me) keeps the PK material into people's consideration to try to counter-act your *heavy* push of everything but PK. biggrin.giftongue.gif

(True, but just giving you a hard time.)

You are the one pushing hard. I don't care which is used. I even said they both work and to go with the PK knowing it will work and work good. Like I mentioned before just trying to inform people there are other options to try.

I have tried to be fair and have not once said PK was bad.
post #698 of 1181
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Originally Posted by Soupy1970 View Post

You are the one pushing hard. I don't care which is used. I even said they both work and to go with the PK knowing it will work and work good. Like I mentioned before just trying to inform people there are other options to try.

I have tried to be fair and have not once said PK was bad.

Dude, relax. I was teasing and even said so in my post. Geez...

EDIT: OK. Maybe that was even a bit harsh. Sorry. I really was just giving you a hard time and I appreciate what you have contributed to this thread and the efforts to help others.

Next time I won't tease you since something got lost between my keyboard and your screen and it wasn't intended the way that you took it and that is my fault. Again, sorry.
Edited by nickbuol - 1/9/14 at 8:41am
post #699 of 1181
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Originally Posted by nickbuol View Post

Dude, relax. I was teasing and even said so in my post. Geez...

EDIT: OK. Maybe that was even a bit harsh. Sorry. I really was just giving you a hard time and I appreciate what you have contributed to this thread and the efforts to help others.

Next time I won't tease you since something got lost between my keyboard and your screen and it wasn't intended the way that you took it and that is my fault. Again, sorry.

My apologise as well! No biggie! We can all be friends. smile.gif I guess at times it may seem I am pushing one fabric over the other. That is not my intention at all. I think it is great that people are trying new fabrics and that is mostly in part of you. I'm just trying to point out that we should give other fabrics a try as so we don't end up in the same situation as with the Kona where everyone just assumes that is the best. PK might very well be the best. I'm sure one can't go wrong with either PK or SF.

Happy Poster building to all!!
post #700 of 1181
Agreed. And I by no means think that PK is the best. I think that there are a lot of options that work well (and also work better than the Kona that this thread was started on).

In another year, there will be a whole new assortment of ideas and tests and opinions.

I am somewhat surprised that I haven't dropped my subscription to this thread. I have so many current projects and things that I am involved in here and on other forums, and for me my acoustical panels that I covered with fabric art (vs other people wanting the fabric art and just happen to turn them into acoustical panels... there is a difference) project has been done for a while and I should probably move on at some point. But, like you, I just want to offer help, ideas, suggestions, and so forth to others. I still remember "someone named Soupy" asking me for help in this thread when they were just getting started. smile.gif Good times!
post #701 of 1181
Agreed. I have thought of dropping it too but feel the same as you. I try to step back and not post every day but do go on a rant at times when I do take time to visit the thread. I admit I am not the best at getting my thoughts across on forums and is why I go on rants.

My Godchild's mom asked if I could make more for her after seeing the Kona Halo posters I made for her son. I was hoping she would have come up with something for me to make by now so I can try the PK first hand. My ex mother-n-law wants me to do a picture of the grand kids but we are waiting till spring to have a photo taken just for the project. I just hope it isn't spring before I get a chance to order again. I need to find something for my sons room to print.

I'm open minded to all the fabrics. I have used more than one fabric and admit the ones hanging in my theater room (cotton poplin) are not the best so I have no reason to be like use what I have it's the bomb. They are all the bomb and look amazing.

I'm going to try to take a break for the rest of the day. If anyone has a direct question to me fell free to shoot me a PM.
post #702 of 1181
I'm glad you guys haven't dropped it, because you've definitely given me some knowledge along the way so thanks for that smile.gif.
post #703 of 1181
Welp finally placed my order for this.

http://www.spoonflower.com/designs/2737471

I like how the preview says basically "what you see is what you get", so hopefully the watermark isn't on my print!

Now the wait begins. But it will give me time find the insulation, and how to hang these on the wall.

I'm curious, how are most of you hanging these on the wall and making them flush to the wall?
post #704 of 1181
Another question - anyone know if Roxul Comfortboard is the same thing as the Roxul RHT stuff? Or are they going to be different results? I'm wondering because a local place can get the Comfortboard stuff but didn't know what the RHT80 stuff was.
post #705 of 1181
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

Another question - anyone know if Roxul Comfortboard is the same thing as the Roxul RHT stuff? Or are they going to be different results? I'm wondering because a local place can get the Comfortboard stuff but didn't know what the RHT80 stuff was.

 

I tried finding absorption properties for ALL the Roxul materials.  The best I could do was locate it for Roxul AFB.  This seemed to be the best option for a broadband absorber but obviously it depends on what thickness you can use relative to the frequencies you might be targeting.

post #706 of 1181
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Originally Posted by jkasanic View Post

I tried finding absorption properties for ALL the Roxul materials.  The best I could do was locate it for Roxul AFB.

http://www.bobgolds.com/AbsorptionCoefficients.htm
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Roxul Rigid Rockwool


Product

thickness

density

125hz

250hz

500hz

1000hz

2000hz

4000hz

NRC

RXL 40 1" (25mm) 7.4 pcf (118 kg/m3) 0.07 0.32 0.77 1.04 1.05 1.05 0.80
RXL 60 1" (25mm) 7.4 pcf (118 kg/m3) 0.08 0.33 0.78 1.03 1.02 1.04 0.80
RXL 80 1" (25mm) 8.0 pcf (128 kg/m3) 0.11 0.31 0.82 1.01 1.02 1.01 0.80
AFB 1" (25mm) 3.0 pcf (48 kg/m3) 0.14 0.25 0.65 0.90 1.01 1.01 0.70
RXL 40 1.5" (25mm) 4.9 pcf (79 kg/m3) 0.18 0.48 0.96 1.09 1.05 1.05 0.90
RXL 60 1.5" (25mm) 6.0 pcf (96 kg/m3) 0.17 0.62 1.00 1.05 1.01 1.01 0.90
RHF / RHT 80 1.5" (25mm) 5.9 pcf (94 kg/m3) 0.17 0.58 1.06 1.07 1.00 0.99 0.95
RXL 80 1.5" (25mm) 8.0 pcf (128 kg/m3) 0.21 0.64 0.92 1.00 0.95 1.01 0.90
AFB 1.5" (33mm) 3.0 pcf (48 kg/m3) 0.18 0.44 0.94 1.04 1.02 1.03 0.85
RHT 40 1.5" (25mm) 3.5 pcf (56 kg/m3) 0.15 0.47 0.98 1.06 1.02 1.02 0.90
RHT 60 1.5" (25mm) 4.4 pcf (70 kg/m3) 0.19 0.55 1.03 1.06 1.02 1.01 0.90
RXL 40 2" (51mm) 4.0 pcf (64 kg/m3) 0.26 0.68 1.12 1.10 1.03 1.04 1.00
RXL 60 2" (51mm) 6.0 pcf (96 kg/m3) 0.32 0.81 1.06 1.02 0.99 1.04 0.95
RHF / RHT 80 2" (51mm) 5.9 pcf (94 kg/m3) 0.39 0.84 1.08 1.01 1.02 1.01 1.00
RXL 80 2" (51mm) 8.0 pcf (128 kg/m3) 0.43 0.78 0.90 0.97 0.97 1.00 0.90
Safe 2" (51mm) 4.5 pcf (72 kg/m3) 0.26 0.68 1.12 1.10 1.03 1.04 1.00
AFB 2" (51mm) 2.5 pcf (40 kg/m3) 0.28 0.60 1.09 1.09 1.07 1.07 0.95
RHT 40 2" (51mm) 3.5 pcf (56 kg/m3) 0.26 0.68 1.14 1.13 1.06 1.07 1.00
RHT 60 2" (51mm) 4.4 pcf (70 kg/m3) 0.26 0.71 1.14 1.09 1.04 1.03 1.00
RXL 40 3" (75mm) 4.0 pcf (64 kg/m3) 0.63 0.95 1.14 1.01 1.03 1.04 1.05
RXL 60 3" (75mm) 6.0 pcf (96 kg/m3) 0.78 0.89 1.04 0.98 1.01 1.02 1.00
RHF / RHT 80 3" (75mm) 5.9 pcf (94 kg/m3) 0.68 0.92 1.08 1.03 1.03 1.03 1.10
RXL 80 3" (75mm) 8.0 pcf (128 kg/m3) 0.75 0.82 0.89 0.94 1.00 1.00 0.90
Safe‘n’Sound 3" (75mm) 2.5 pcf (40 kg/m3) 0.52 0.96 1.18 1.07 1.05 1.05 1.05
Safe 3" (76mm) 4.5 pcf (72 kg/m3) 0.63 0.95 1.14 1.01 1.03 1.04 1.05
AFB 3" (75mm) 2.5 pcf (40 kg/m3) 0.52 0.96 1.18 1.07 1.05 1.05 1.05
RHT 40 3" (75mm) 3.5 pcf (56 kg/m3) 0.62 1.03 1.20 1.10 1.08 1.10 1.10
RHT 60 3" (75mm) 4.4 pcf (70 kg/m3) 0.65 0.94 1.13 1.07 1.06 1.04 1.10
RXL 40 4" (100mm) 4.0 pcf (64 kg/m3) 1.03 1.07 1.12 1.04 1.07 1.08 1.10
RHF / RHT 80 4" (100mm) 5.9 pcf (94 kg/m3) 1.00 0.95 1.06 1.04 1.06 1.08 1.05
Safe 4" (100mm) 4.5 pcf (72 kg/m3) 1.03 1.07 1.12 1.04 1.07 1.08 1.10
AFB 4" (100mm) 2.5 pcf (40 kg/m3) 0.86 1.11 1.20 1.07 1.08 1.07 1.10
RHT 40 4" (100mm) 3.5 pcf (56 kg/m3) 1.07 1.01 1.07 1.06 1.07 1.16 1.05
RHT 60 4" (100mm) 4.4 pcf (70 kg/m3) 0.92 1.04 1.07 1.07 1.07 1.08 1.05
post #707 of 1181
So does anyone know the differences between the different 2" Roxul insulations?

I've seen or heard of 3 different types and I just don't know the difference between them.

- Roxul Rockboard 80
- Roxul RHT 80
- Roxul Comfort Board

Would basically any of these work for these types of panels? I just don't know much about these types and want to be sure that I get the best available one I can and not just buy one because it's cheaper than the others, but will not be as good.
post #708 of 1181
Not sure on the differences haven't had a chance to mess with mine due to a sick pregnant gf I have to take care of frown.gif
post #709 of 1181
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Originally Posted by purbeast View Post

So does anyone know the differences between the different 2" Roxul insulations?

I've seen or heard of 3 different types and I just don't know the difference between them.

- Roxul Rockboard 80
- Roxul RHT 80
- Roxul Comfort Board

Would basically any of these work for these types of panels? I just don't know much about these types and want to be sure that I get the best available one I can and not just buy one because it's cheaper than the others, but will not be as good.

Are you talking something other than absorption coefficients? If you are not then Bob Gold's site can give you those.
post #710 of 1181
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Originally Posted by artur9 View Post

Are you talking something other than absorption coefficients? If you are not then Bob Gold's site can give you those.

I am talking about those, and on that page I only see the RHT80 on there. I see other ones for the 2" thick stuff, but I don't see the Rockboard 80 type, nor do I see the Comfort Board, unless they are named something else?

I was also curious if they are all pretty rigid and solid.
post #711 of 1181
Wow I need to get off my butt and get to printing a couple of my fav movie artwork, I tend to like more of the Hitchcock type noir foreign film posters.
Is there a step by step post on here, idiot proof instructions?

I'm digging the incased frames more so than the over the wood frame persuasion, any diagram to build them on here as well. Sorry if these question have been hatched a thousand and one times, the searching via cell phone tends to suck big time.

Thanks

Djoel
post #712 of 1181
The only step by step instructions I can see is the original post who started this all. There my have been some tweaks here and there but I think it all depends on what size of poster you want and from there you build on the frame.

I also assume the incased frame you are referring to are the ones I put up, which are shadow boxes. That also depends on the size of poster you decided on but relatively easy to build. YouTube is your friend biggrin.gif
post #713 of 1181
Thanks for the info,will look around once I'm certain my toddler is asleep I left my laptop there lol. Ha, I like your description shadow box better than incase.
At the moment I have four 24X24 sets of acoustic panels but I'm thinking of 24 by 48" sets, what do you have size wise?

Great work.

Thanks again

Djoel
post #714 of 1181
Thanks, no problem. We're all here to help one another smile.gif

Mine are 24 x 36 posters but the added shadow box frame makes them roughly 27 x 39. Most on here I believe have 24 x 36 posters. But you can make them any size you want.
post #715 of 1181
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Originally Posted by tcc View Post

Thanks, no problem. We're all here to help one another smile.gif

Mine are 24 x 36 posters but the added shadow box frame makes them roughly 27 x 39. Most on here I believe have 24 x 36 posters. But you can make them any size you want.


I'll see what 24 X 36 looks like and put it in perspective as it sounds a little big, thanks again for the great info.

Dan
post #716 of 1181
Mine are 20 x 14 because I have a small wall and I want higher resolution
post #717 of 1181
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Originally Posted by wse View Post

Mine are 20 x 14 because I have a small wall and I want higher resolution

Ahhh.. Very cool, thanks for the heads up.


Djoel
post #718 of 1181
If you go with a smaller poster you can use the Fat Quarter size which is under $10 each. I think it's somewhere around 28 x 18 print for the PK and 27 x 18 for the Silky Faille.
post #719 of 1181
Spoonflower was quicker than expected. The prints I ordered last Wednesday should be here tomorrow. I used the normal shipping method too. I'll snap some pics of them once I get them. I'm curious to see how good the quality is on the images I used that weren't quite as high resolution as the others.

I also found a local place that has the Roxul CurtainRock in #8 in 2", which has the exact same acoustical properties as the RHT80, for $43 for 48sqft so I'm probably going to grab that. I'm just not sure if it will fit in the back of my car or not though because I have a sports car.
post #720 of 1181
DJoel, people go with 24"x36" for a lot of their "starting points" as that equates to a decent "movie poster" size.

Keep in mind that if you want to make a real improvement in your room acoustics, you will want decent coverage percentages, thus the reason why people also go with things bigger than 24"x24". Not saying that you can't do that though. I almost did (I wasn't going to go with, and didn't go with, movie posters for are). I was looking for a certain amount of wall coverage to improve my acoustics and ended up with six 24"x48" panels on the side walls (three on each wall) and an even thicker 24" x 48" panel mounted horizontally on my rear wall. At first my wife thought that they were big (so did I in fact), but we like the look now that they are done, and the acoustical improvement is great. I don't remember the exact estimated guidelines for how much wall (plus floor and ceiling) coverage I was shooting for based off of my own room acoustics, but I could have easily had 2 if not 4 more 24" x 48" panels and not be near "too dead" but have a few more reflections tamed. But, we had to draw a line somewhere without having some serious aesthetics issues.

Not saying that everyone has to do that kind of thing, but just be aware that once you put up an acoustical panel or two, you should start to notice a difference, but you can just as easily kill off too much high end and no middle or lower frequencies and not like the new sound too.

I don't mean to scare you, just help you make the best decision you can. It is your space, so you still need to make all of the factors work for you. If going for movie poster size, and knowing and experiencing what I do now, I would go for 24" x 36" with 2" thick acoustical material (Roxul Safe N Sound, OC703, etc) and the same 1.5" air gap behind that. On a 20' long wall, I would put 4 of these on each wall if not even 5. I would still go with a larger horizontally placed rear panel like I have now at 24" x 48" x 5.5" thick (using 4" acoustical insulation). Yes, an even thicker panel would be nice, but with printing limitations, you can't really go any thicker for the panel. If my ceilings were taller (mine are actually less than 8 feet, although they don't feel low in the room) I would put up two "cloud banks" or even flush mounted panels in front of each row of seats. These pieces, in conjunction with my front wall behind my speakers being fully treated including corner bass traps, would yield some great sound just slightly better than what I acoustically have now. I have no regrets though because I have my limits for placement, etc. Look at your space and see what can be done. If you end up with even just 1 panel, I certainly won't say that you are doing it wrong or anything. I will leave that for the acoustic snobs in other forum threads. Here, in this DIY thread, everyone is welcome to experiment and share what works for them.

Best of luck.
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