Big JBL Theater items for the DIY Guy. - Page 16

Can you take a picture of those? I made sure everyone was in perfect shape before sending, even tested them to make sure they worked too.

I don't think those screws could come out of the plywood on their own, they were in pretty far, as in a lot of turns so they couldn't back out. I even chose the thin threaded drywall screws so that it would take a lot more turns to get them out. That way they couldn't back out during shipping, I don't think that could happen. Were you the one that removed them from the plywood?

The screws that go through the mounting holes on the top driver lined up with the empty mounting holes on the bottom woofer. And vice versa. Basically sandwiching the plywood.

Now if you take the screws out of the top woofer and drag it across the plywood instead of lifting it directly straight up, it could be scratched by the screw tips that are coming UP through the bottom driver.

Did that make any sense? Tough to explain.


My guess is that's what happened. Those drywall screws have the tiny threads and would need to turn at least 15 times before they would come lose. And even if they did, I experimented to see if they could ever move enough to hit the other screw. I'm guessing that the first woofer removed was slid across the plywood and hit the screw tips coming through the bottom.

If that was the case, I feel kinda bad because I didn't mention how to remove them from the plywood. I just assumed that each one would be lifted straight up.


I did keep a couple spares, just in case something bad happened. But I double and triple checked everything before it went out.

Jesse, I had forgotten that you didn't open the boxes, but that your friend did. I hope he doesn't feel too bad one way or the other. Who knows what happened. That damage looks to have happened the same exact way on both drivers. Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought only one had a screw back out and the other 5 drivers were still nice and secure. That means I would've had to send one that was already damaged the same way. I promise, I went over each driver with a fine tooth comb, wiped off any dust, checked them front and back and tested them to see if they worked. When I came across one 15" that had a simple mark on the cone, I took a photo and posted it here because it wasn't in 100% perfect shape. I still have that one and another pair that didn't look perfect.



If only one screw came out, wouldn't the driver shift side to side in a circular fashion and the screw underneath would hit the gasket first? I didn't think it could shift far enough inward or outward to hit the surround. I figured the most it could shift towards the surround would be 1/8" because the screw was slightly smaller than the mounting hole.

Regardless how it happened, when you send a check, don't pay for those. I'll pay shipping to have both sent back to me, get it fixed and use it somewhere here or whatever. It doesn't really matter whose fault it is, it's my fault for not telling people to lift the drivers straight off the plywood. I probably should have mentioned it. If the top one is unscrewed, and you slid the driver towards you to pick it up, they could get damaged like that. I hope others catch it before they unpack the boxes. I did send out PM's to those people giving a heads up. Luckily it's only 2 other people because everyone else is waiting to see if a pallet makes more sense on shipping.

Obviously I don't collect any money from anyone until they actually get their stuff, it's just the way I am. I know that's backward thinking, but I'm confident enough in what I shipped out. So it wouldn't make sense for me send damaged items.....the end user simply wouldn't pay. So rest assured, I'd only ship stuff that you would be happy enough to pay for. And this is one of the reasons why I feel better doing that. Just send it on back to me, and only pay for the ones that worked out. No big deal at all, I'll figure it out.

I did hold 4 back from the sale. 2 have damage that might need work (well one does), and 2 have cosmetic issues.

The one that definitely needs work had a hole punched right through it's surround. The other one I posted photos of about a week ago. It has a mark on the cone that extends up to the surround.

The 2 with cosmetic issues may not be a big deal. One had a pushed in dust cap and I posted a photo of that one last week. The other has a slight scratch on the cone about 1.5" long. It doesn't go through, and it's not sliced or anything, but it is there.

The rest were in good shape.

Jesse, if you don't want to go that route, please just let me know. I've got those 2 other ones that you can change them out for. I don't mind at all. I can take pictures of each one so you can see if you'd like to switch them.

Gentlemen, I'm boxing up surrounds and surround guts right now, but I need room.

All the other 15's and 18's are boxed up and sold. But I've only shipped 14 out of the huge amount I have. So time has come for people to decide whether they are doing a pallet or just shipping individual boxes. There's literally no where left to put things.

My living room and dining room look like a JBL packaging facility with not only a boat load of drivers and surrounds, but also just as much shipping supplies. Gotta love it. Normally, I could live with this for much longer, but I've got 110 surrounds, 230 MFW's, and 100 flat packs that also need to be boxed up in the next couple weeks.

Yes, that's over 450 packages.........by myself! I will get through it though! But it's time to move some of this stuff out. Let me know what you've decided when you get the chance.