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post #1831 of 2319
I've had 2 LG players now. I have the 2nd one because the 1st one was rebooting at random after a few months. I'll never have another. Both have been really buggy.
post #1832 of 2319
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Originally Posted by Pugnax View Post

UPDATE: After two days of trying, it finally took. The player seems to be working properly now.

Hallelujah!
post #1833 of 2319
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Originally Posted by loverboy1701 View Post

Yes I have that same problem but I found a way around it by pausing the video and wait a sec then play it again. Works every time. This problem only happen once in a while for me so it's no big deal.

Same here.

I have Netflix that stutters on the 670 and only PAUSE works to rebuffer the stream. Sometimes the stutter is so frequent that the movie becomes unwatchable.

If I downgrade the firmware, and log-in to Netflix, the Netflix software program will tell you to update to the LATEST firmware in order to be accessible.

1.) Is there any firmware hack, etc that prevents Netflix from asking for a firmware update?

2.) And secondly a firmware that doesn't always FORCE you to update the machine in order to work?
post #1834 of 2319
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

I converted a few of my .m2ts and .mts files that result in the "Resolution Not Supported" error to .mkv format using VideoRedo and they play back just fine without any issues at 1080P resolution (used a USB flash drive for testing). VideoRedo is just remuxing the files, it's not re-encoding the videos, so the quality is identical to the source files. It should be noted that neither the BD570 instruction manual or the BD670 instruction manual list .m2ts or .ts files as supported container formats, so I wouldn't expect fixing the issue with direct playback of .m2ts files to be a priority.

The manual does have "MPEG2-TS" listed in the codec column. Also, if the player did not support those files then it would not list them (the file browser only shows those file extensions that it recognizes). Finally, it just has to be able to play those files; bluRays use that format.

Why LG would deliberately block playing those streams in 1080p (it plays 720p m2ts files fine) outside of a real bluRay disc is beyond me. All it takes is a quick run in your favorite tool (yamb, tsmuxer, mkvtoolnix, etc) and you have yourself a new container for the exact same content. Why not spare us the trouble?

Strange thing is, I think my BD630 played those 1080p m2ts files just fine. I had to "upgrade" to a BD660 because the BD630 had a bad drive and I did not notice until it was too late. Now I got a BD660 that has a decent drive, but it won't play HD m2ts streams (outside of real bluRays); lame. It does play all those MKVs (albeit with a warning that it "may not" play them) that the BD630 just would not play at all, but blocking 1080p m2ts is just as annoying as being unable to play some MKVs.

Frankly I would not recommed any LG player. They're cinavia-free (BP6xx) and they do play more formats than say a Sony (no surprise there), but that's about all they have going for them. I'm sure there's players that play more files than this (altho, if you want to buy new 2012, you're going to be stuck with cinavia).

Regards,
post #1835 of 2319
What are the chances they're going become a device for HBOToGo or ShowtimeAnytime?
post #1836 of 2319
Need some help......... I have a LG BD670 3D Wireless Network Blu-ray Disc Player and have a problem. Today I wanted to play Netflix and was asked it I wanted to update the unit - I said okay....after about 20 minutes it jsut said "updating". Of course it told me to not disconnet or turn off the system but I did (ugh). Now I can't get it conencted to my Samsung Smart TV 8000 so I can see any of the screens. I can see it turn on but the screen shows something like this [.......]

Any suggestion on what I shoud do?
post #1837 of 2319
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Originally Posted by Eagleview1 View Post

Need some help......... I have a LG BD670 3D Wireless Network Blu-ray Disc Player and have a problem. Today I wanted to play Netflix and was asked it I wanted to update the unit - I said okay....after about 20 minutes it jsut said "updating". Of course it told me to not disconnet or turn off the system but I did (ugh). Now I can't get it conencted to my Samsung Smart TV 8000 so I can see any of the screens. I can see it turn on but the screen shows something like this [.......]

Any suggestion on what I shoud do?

You may need to bring it in for service, but if you haven't done so already, try unplugging it for several minutes then plug in again and see if that changes anything.
post #1838 of 2319
So, I got a 611 last spring, and I really like it, so for the holidays last year, I got my in-laws a 631. For some reason, the remote on the newer model is way chintzier-looking/feeling, and the Netflix interface flat-out sucks on toast. Anyone else run into this?
post #1839 of 2319
Here's a question regarding my 611:

I bought a nano-sized flash drive for the USB port (the only one, and behind a drop-down panel to boot; stupidstupidstupid design), in order to properly buffer BD-Live content. Thing is, I see no option to configure it to do this; whenever I turn the player on, it looks for media on the flash drive (which is blank and formatted). Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
post #1840 of 2319
I haven't posted in this thread in months, maybe a year. I just got my BD690 back from warranty repairs which cost me $69 labor, free shipping. My complaints were pausing and I had static on playback and even on the home screen. I had tried multiple HDMI ports on the receiver, and then bypassed the receiver and tried multiple ports on the TV, and different HDMI cables. I got the static in all configurations. I got a call from the tech and he said he couldn't reproduce any of the problems, I got it back and the statement just said replaced electronics. The static is gone, but with in 2 minutes of watching a movie. Kungfu panda 2 3d it had paused multiple times, and then several more times during the movie. I don't know if it's right at chapter changes, it seems to be too often for that. I know people in this thread have been complaining about it since launch and just wanted to share my experience. I'm going to email the tech and let him know what happened also. At least the static is gone. One other complaint. I shipped it in the factory box w/ Styrofoam molded pieces and got it back in a plain brown box w/ air pouches. I save boxes for moving, and now I don't have it.
post #1841 of 2319
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post


In regard to the .398.E update, this update was never available as a Web site download. Several users here reported that their players became unresponsive and required service (aka 'bricked') after attempting to install the update via direct download and it became unavailable shortly thereafter. In short, I don't have a way to share it and if I did, it might not be advisable to install anyway. However, it works fairly well for me and I'm reluctant to change my configuration now that I have no means to roll back to this specific update later if I were to install another version.


As for your comment that we're all beta testers, I think there is some truth to that. Manufacturers are selling these devices (Blu-ray players) pretty cheap now, and they are exponentially more complicated than previous generations of devices they replace (DVD players, CD players, Laser Disc and VCRs).


I suspect that the development and testing process is being short changed to meet deadlines and price targets while cramming in lots of features to make the devices competitive. These software updates also likely require the coordination of multiple development and test teams (chipset maker, streaming app developers, disc player maker, networking components, etc.) so there are many potential break points once everything gets integrated into a single package that is supposed to just make everything work for end users once installed.


It's looking like the best bet as a consumer may be to get a dedicated streaming device and a separate player for disc playback. Having one device to do all seems to be too much to ask.

You are certainly right that - at least as far as the LG670 goes - it is best to have a ROKU or other dedicated streaming device! But what KILLS me is that the BD670 CAN'T EVEN PLAY DVD's CORRECTLY!

In case you don't remember my previous posts, let me remind you: I HATE LG! AND I HATE THE LG670 BLURAY PLAYER!
The only reason I have not returned it (I bought an extended warranty) is because it DOES play files on my USB Thumbdrive very well. This, however, is the ONLY thing it does well!

So why am I ranting? Because LG gave me NO option, it AUTOMATICALLY went into update mode a few weeks ago and updated my firmware so NOW once again I have the audio dropout at DVD chapter breaks. UGH! This infuriates me!

First of all no machine should AUTOMATICALLY update itself! It should ALWAYS give you the Option OR allow you to set a preference for auto vs. manual updates. But no. The &(%$@#*! BD670 just takes over and starts updating itself at power on. So I finally had it playing DVD's correctly for many months, (after having to return 2) and now it's playing them badly again.

I am probably going to keep the POS just for file playing but go out and buy a simple Bluray/DVD player that WORKS.

I skimmed through the past few pages of notes and it appears there has been no new update that once AGAIN fixes this dvd audio dropout problem? How on earth do the LG "techs" (I use the term very loosely) create the SAME problem again and again with their updates????

Finally my questions:
* CAN I downgrade to an earlier version of the software?
* Is LG_BD.8.97.382.E.rar the one I want to downgrade to?

Any help would be appreciated. As you can see the LG BD670 is driving me nucking futz!
post #1842 of 2319
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Originally Posted by RayAzul View Post

Finally my questions:
* CAN I downgrade to an earlier version of the software?
* Is LG_BD.8.97.382.E.rar the one I want to downgrade to?
Any help would be appreciated. As you can see the LG BD670 is driving me nucking futz!

You should be able to install .382 with the installer. Based on my recollection that version worked pretty well with the exception of Netflix users complaining about sync issues and I experienced some DLNA buffering issues fixed in the next version. The problem now would be that if you attempt to use Premium streaming apps, some will require a software version higher than .382 and there is no way to roll back the apps. But if you're willing to forego the streaming apps prompts to upgrade (which means you can't use those apps at all), you should be able to run .382 to get good disc playback and USB playback.
post #1843 of 2319
My BD690 had pausing issues but one of the firmware updates corrected it. Now I have endless issues with the apps not working and or not loading at all. I find myself unplugging the unit for a couple of minutes and then starting over. Otherwise it seems to work fine and I have not noticed any syncing issues.
post #1844 of 2319
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

You should be able to install .382 with the installer. Based on my recollection that version worked pretty well with the exception of Netflix users complaining about sync issues and I experienced some DLNA buffering issues fixed in the next version. The problem now would be that if you attempt to use Premium streaming apps, some will require a software version higher than .382 and there is no way to roll back the apps. But if you're willing to forego the streaming apps prompts to upgrade (which means you can't use those apps at all), you should be able to run .382 to get good disc playback and USB playback.

Hi, and thanks for the info.
I rarely use - and don't need to use at all - the 670 for streaming. I have ROKU which I find works better anyway.

You say to install .382 "with the installer". What exactly does that mean, "with the installer"? I thought I just put the file on a usb and go to Update and tell it to update from the USB. No?
And once I install it how do I keep the 670 from automatically installing new firmware? I thought it always asked but I'm pretty sure the last time it did not ask and that's how I ended up with dvd's with audio pauses at chapter changes again.

Thanks for your help!
post #1845 of 2319
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Originally Posted by RayAzul View Post

Hi, and thanks for the info.
I rarely use - and don't need to use at all - the 670 for streaming. I have ROKU which I find works better anyway.
You say to install .382 "with the installer". What exactly does that mean, "with the installer"? I thought I just put the file on a usb and go to Update and tell it to update from the USB. No?
And once I install it how do I keep the 670 from automatically installing new firmware? I thought it always asked but I'm pretty sure the last time it did not ask and that's how I ended up with dvd's with audio pauses at chapter changes again.
Thanks for your help!

By installer, I meant using the downloaded file that you put on a USB drive as opposed to the update process built into the player.

As for keeping the 670 from installing new software, based on my experience, you just have to tell it to "Hide" the updates every time it prompts you. In my experience, the only thing that will update without user authorization is the Premium apps, but that won't impact anything outside of the streaming apps. Unfortunately, I don't think there is a way to disable the update prompts entirely, even when you choose "Hide," the prompts reappear after some time. However, if you don't use any of the network functionality, disconnecting the player from the network would likely help prevent it from updating (assuming it doesn't keep cached copies of the previous downloads after you install a newer version).
post #1846 of 2319
Yeah, that's a good idea, assuming I can get it to work right again by installing the older firmware. If I can then I'll just disconnect it from the network and use it as a dedicated file/dvd/bluray player without the streaming.
I really like ROKU for streaming. It's VERY reliable (opposite of this LG p.o.s.).
post #1847 of 2319
Hello everyone,

Can anyone please confirm if the LG BD 670 has or does not have Cinavia in its current firmware? Couple of months ago I got a Sony BDP S590 and I'm very dissapointed with the Cinavia making my backup blu rays useless. I've had good experience with LG BD 645 but gave it away after I got the Sony. Probably the 2012 LGs will end up with Cinavia sooner or later that's why I'm considering getting the 670 as an older model.
post #1848 of 2319
Honestly I'm not the best person to ask about the LG BD670 - I hate mine in many ways! But I just wanted to say that if you do buy one, be very careful not to update the firmware to the current firmware because the current firmware causes audio dropout at chapter changes on DVD's. See my post above re that. And then you will want to install the last good working firmware (see above again) and do not let it update.

As to Cinvavia I don't know anything about it but the above preacautions would apply. Since they don't tell you what's IN the firmware updates, using them is dangerous.

LG has a history of releasing should-be-Beta firmware and making us unwilling Beta-testers. I actually love the fact that my LG670 can play many different files via thumbdrive. But as a blu-ray/dvd player it bites. Not that great afor streaming either. I use a ROKU for that.
post #1849 of 2319
Thanks for the reply RayAzul.
I've read about the above problems and I think I can live with them having the S590 as option for internet apps and such. I like that the LGs can play almost any video format, at least my old BD 645 did. Sony does not recognize some of the files that played fine in the old LG, nor it handles well hdds with more than one partition. I hope that BD 670 has the zoom feature, because of course Sony does not have that one too. Its very usefull for widescreen 3D movies.

Just cheked the manual of the newer LG BD 620 and it states that it contains Cinavia. I'm very close to getting the 670.
post #1850 of 2319
I have a question about Picasa. I actually like this service, but it seems that after the initial upload of my Picasa content, it has not added any new photos from my account. How do I "refresh" it?
post #1851 of 2319
Hi every1!!!! Check ur updates because .413.E has arrived today. I'll post what i find. Best Wishes, eVa!
post #1852 of 2319
I checked and my BD630 said there was no update found.
post #1853 of 2319
Disable HDMI upscale

My LG BD 670 always delivers output at 1080P , for everything including DVD.
Since my new expensive SONY TV HX850 can do a better job of up-scaling , i would like the player to send it native resolution.
According to Manual, the AUTO option should send in native , but it always defaults to 1080P .
I dont want to set it to 480p, as i use the Smart TV also , and it may have a higher resolution.
Don't want to change resolution each time.
Can some one advise ?
Thanks
post #1854 of 2319
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Originally Posted by Baseman View Post

Hi every1!!!! Check ur updates because .413.E has arrived today. I'll post what i find. Best Wishes, eVa!

No update available yet for my 670. I sure hope the next update fixes my Netflix problems, it's absolutely unusable as it stands now. The other premiums I use (MLB, Amazon, Vudu, YouTube) work fine .
post #1855 of 2319
Forgot to mention I have the 670 but you have to manually check for the update and it's there!!! My 670 is always live but unless I power it on/off/on then it will tell me there's an update but usually I have to manually check. Still haven't had time to check out the firmware. Cheers!!!!
post #1856 of 2319
I am having tons of problems with playback with my BD670 - with both BD and DVD disks. There are tons of black screens, and audio drops. Turning the unit off will sometimes fix it, but it is hard to explain to a 3 year old why his video keeps stoping.

I finally relented and allowed for the updated firmware 2 weeks ago, and it seemed to work a bit better.

I have done some searches and read tons of this thread, but haven't seen mention of my exact problem - or if there are any solutions. I guess there is an even newer update available I will check for tonight.

One other problem I have had is it won't recognize any disks on occasion unless the unit is powered off for 10 seconds or so.

I haven't even used the apps as my TV has them and my DTV box has them also...
post #1857 of 2319
.413.E did not seem to fix anything for me on either of my two LG BD-670 units. After the update, I restored factory defaults and did hard resets on each to be sure prior to seeing how things work. Here is what I have had so far:

1) Netflix- While I had a very hard to notice lip sync issue in 404.E, in .414.E it is much worse. Everything from SD to HD content. I so wish I could roll back to .382.E, but as we all know now cannot and not have Netflix work.

2) DVD- I never really noticed audio sync issues that some did on 404.E, but in .414.E every title I have tried has sync issues.

3) LAN Media- I have a Seagate BlackArmor NAS110 that I stream video media from. The issues I had in 404.E still exist in .414.E. The issues are when exiting browsing or playing media, if and when I hit the HOME button to go back to the main menu, 9 out of 10 times the unit will freeze just displaying the wallpaper requiring me to pull the plug on the unit as it is completely unresponsive or shut itself off within 5 seconds of hitting the HOME button.
post #1858 of 2319
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Originally Posted by mediatrek View Post

.413.E did not seem to fix anything for me on either of my two LG BD-670 units. 2) DVD- I never really noticed audio sync issues that some did on 404.E, but in .414.E every title I have tried has sync issues.
3) LAN Media- I have a Seagate BlackArmor NAS110 that I stream video media from. The issues I had in 404.E still exist in .414.E. The issues are when exiting browsing or playing media, if and when I hit the HOME button to go back to the main menu, 9 out of 10 times the unit will freeze just displaying the wallpaper requiring me to pull the plug on the unit as it is completely unresponsive or shut itself off within 5 seconds of hitting the HOME button.

Thanks for the post. I was going to update, but now I think I will not since my unit is working great and so I see no reason to mess things up.
post #1859 of 2319
I love my 690 except for the damn stuttering in Netflix HD movies. Any cure for this?
post #1860 of 2319
I cannot seem to get 5.1 audio from Netflix or Vudu or Amazon. I have the BD670 audio set to Pass Through, and the output is to a Denon 4311ci via HDMI. The Denon always reports the audio from the BD670 streaming as 2 channel stereo. Bluray disks do change the audio to multichannel.

The BD670 is ethernet wired to a high speed router and a 20 Mb TimeWarner Cable connection.

I have updated the firmware to the latest 413.E

Suggestions? I have tried a power disconnect, but no hard resets.
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