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post #1981 of 2320
Quote:
Originally Posted by James Sponaugle View Post

Can the BD670 be coaxed into playing mkv's remuxed from DVD (e.g. plain old mpeg2 +AC3 content)?   It seems my 670 (with latest firmware) just won't do it (over the network...never tried on USB, and don't plan to).   I saw a couple of tips here in this thread about making sure header compression was turned of  (by remuxing with mkvmerge), which I did, and that didn't help.  It's still saying it's an unsupported format.  I've used makemkv and DVDfab (using passthrough mode to an MKV container).    I've re-encoded to some other lossy codecs and that seems to be ok though.  Raw mpeg2 work fine of course, but I'd really like to have chapter stops.  Are there any other containers the BD670 supports that could give me chapter stops and that support mpeg2 payload remuxed straight from DVD?  I'm starting to think they don't want me to play my dvd's without re-encoding smile.gif.

I haven't done any experimentation with chapter markers myself, but mpeg2 inside mkv seems to be pretty non-standard.  I mostly use mpeg2 in either, .mpeg, .vob or .TS files and use Serviio as my DLNA server (a DLNA server is necessary for .vob support and perhaps for .TS support).  I'm assuming you've already tried .mpeg which is the only container natively supported by the LG which is commonly used for mpeg2.

One alternative to chapter markers may be to split them into separate files.  This won't give you seamless playback (the player will buffer between files) but at least you can start at the beginning of a chapter that way and you don't lose any quality as you would when transcoding to a different codec.  I transfer a lot of content from my DVR, edit out commercials, then save each segment as a separate file. In this use the buffering only occurs where the commercials would have been, so it doesn't bother me.  Wouldn't want that if I was watching a movie, but it's something to think about.

Note: you can probably get your files to play using a DLNA server like Serviio, but it would remux the files to another format in which case you may lose the chapter marker functionality.
post #1982 of 2320
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Originally Posted by Vampidemic View Post

I haven't done any experimentation with chapter markers myself, but mpeg2 inside mkv seems to be pretty non-standard.  I mostly use mpeg2 in either, .mpeg, .vob or .TS files and use Serviio as my DLNA server (a DLNA server is necessary for .vob support and perhaps for .TS support).  I'm assuming you've already tried .mpeg which is the only container natively supported by the LG which is commonly used for mpeg2.
One alternative to chapter markers may be to split them into separate files.  This won't give you seamless playback (the player will buffer between files) but at least you can start at the beginning of a chapter that way and you don't lose any quality as you would when transcoding to a different codec.  I transfer a lot of content from my DVR, edit out commercials, then save each segment as a separate file. In this use the buffering only occurs where the commercials would have been, so it doesn't bother me.  Wouldn't want that if I was watching a movie, but it's something to think about.
Note: you can probably get your files to play using a DLNA server like Serviio, but it would remux the files to another format in which case you may lose the chapter marker functionality.

Thanks for the reply, and the tips. I've not tried an mpeg container, just a raw mpg file. I'll have to look into that (presuming mpeg supports chapters). Can you recommend any tools to remux into an mpeg container? I have also tried just splitting into files. It seems like it didn't auto advance through the files in the directory when I tried that, but I don't remember really..I've been through a lot of permutations. That is one possible solution, although it would be pretty annoying in a movie as you mentioned. So with regard to playing .vob or .TS via a DLNA server, would that be transcoding on the fly to some other compression, or does it just serve up the mpeg2 within those containers as is? Sorry, I'm new to this stuff. I'll go read up on the DLNA spec and the various servers available smile.gif.

Honestly, I probably should just get a real streamer for this application (Dune HD or similar), since they seem to support dvd and blu-ray directories, etc, which would be my preferred backup/storage form anyway. I was hoping I could get by on the cheap with this player. Thanks again for the help - much appreciated. I'll give mpeg containers a try.

EDIT: I gave mpeg-ps a try. Actually, I'd already tried it and just didn't realize it, as vob is just a slightly modified/constrained mpeg-ps. It plays fine, but just no chapter markers. As far as I can tell, mpeg-ps doesn't have chapter markers. Oh well..off to look at real media players...
Edited by James Sponaugle - 10/4/12 at 11:50am
post #1983 of 2320
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Originally Posted by James Sponaugle View Post



Can you recommend any tools to remux into an mpeg container?   I have also tried just splitting into files.  It seems like it didn't auto advance through the files in the directory when I tried that, but I don't remember really..I've been through a lot of permutations. That is one possible solution, although it would be pretty annoying in a movie as you mentioned.   So with regard to playing .vob or .TS via a DLNA server, would that be transcoding on the fly to some other compression, or does it just serve up the mpeg2 within those containers as is?   Sorry, I'm new to this stuff.  I'll go read up on the DLNA spec and the various servers available smile.gif.

Honestly, I probably should just get a real streamer for this application (Dune HD or similar), since they seem to support dvd and blu-ray directories, etc, which would be my preferred backup/storage form anyway.  I was hoping I could get by on the cheap with this player.  Thanks again for the help - much appreciated.  I'll give mpeg containers a try.

EDIT:  I gave mpeg-ps a try. Actually, I'd already tried it and just didn't realize it, as vob is just a slightly modified/constrained mpeg-ps.  It plays fine, but just no chapter markers.  As far as I can tell, mpeg-ps doesn't have chapter markers.  Oh well..off to look at real media players...

I have used MPEG Streamclip to remux .vob files into .mpeg files, but I think you are right about chapter markers not being supported in mpeg.  It sounds like the only other container that you can put mpeg2 video into with chapter markers is .mp4, which is also uncommon and the .mp4 container apparently does not support AC3 audio, so most DVDs would require audio to be transcoded ( and I don't know if the LG players will play these files or recognize the markers).

To answer your DLNA question, you can play TS files or VOB files on the LG players through a DLNA server without transcoding.  I have done this with Serviio, which I believe just sends MPEG-TS to the player.  In my experience, the player will automatically play the files in a directory in sequence. However, LG's network playback functionality in general is buggy, so seeking out another solution is not a bad idea.
post #1984 of 2320

Transfer HDD on a BD590 to BD690?

Hi, I'm a newbie to this forum. I've owned a BD590 that I easily upgraded to a 2GB drive nearly three years ago and I have ripped a lot of CDs to it. I'm really tired of the directory system on the 590 and only being able to have one playlist. Other than that, I have been fairly happy with the 590, other than being disappointed that the firmware updates never seem to provide any new, useful features. I was going to look into a BD690 with the hopes that it would provide a better music navigation/selection experience. My question is whether there one can just move the HDD on the 590 to the 690? If you can't do this, is there an easy way just to copy all the ripped material and metadata over to the new 690? Also, does anyone know if the 690 can handle more than just one playlist?
post #1985 of 2320
Haven't used my 690 in about a month (worked fine then), and put a Blu-ray (The Avengers) from Red Box in and OH the horrible grinding noises!!! Tried a few others and some it would read (after much time & effort) and some it would not. Hooked my old 390 back up and the Avengers works fine. Any suggestions?
post #1986 of 2320
Wassup. Great forum! If your Netflix account keeps saying "unable to play movie/title at this time, try another movie or try later" updating, pulling the power cord won't do. Simply go into your BD690 setup menu and "DE-ACTIVATE" your current Netflix account from the unit. Then, re-enter your Netfix account info and RE-ACTIVATE it. All your movies/titles will play just fine. BD690 users employ an email account and password system for re-activating Netfix (assuming a recent firmware update) and the BD590 units activate via a Netflix code you enter to activate your device online with your computer. The same username/email name and password you use to gain entry to your Netflix account via online is the same you would use to reactivate it. Hope this helps.
post #1987 of 2320
Originally Posted by TXSTYLE View Post

I have a 670 that I just purchased. Here is the current firmware version I have:
BD.8.62.351. H90359
My first question: Should I stay where I am? Lol!
I have hooked up flash drives and external HD and it plays mp4 and some .mkv movies effortlessly! But some .mkv movies show "resolution not supported".
But I can play that same movie/file on the usb TV input on my PZ950.
What gives???

I have a BD690 & a BD590. Same thing happened on my unit. Some USB files played and some did not. The BD590 played all my USB files and so its an older unit, if it can play those files, my newer BD690 should play them also. I highlighted those files with more info and found that they all had a 1900xXXX resolution. Its the 1900 part that your unit doesn't recognize as a proper resolution. Even when I changed the format/resolution settings on the setup menu, the BD690 unit still didn't play the file. I merely updated the firmware today and "Shazam!" everything plays fine now. So it obviously needs a firmware update. If you have an updated firmware, then you may have to downgrade it. Sometimes the firmware updates don't take well. I'm happy my upgrade doesn't have to force me to reconvert all those avi, mkv, etc files. Hope this helps.
post #1988 of 2320
Well... I guess I havnt gotten a direct answer to my question above about not upgrading to any newer firmware...
post #1989 of 2320
My 670 started doing this shortly after purchase, within a couple of weeks iirc. Sounded like it was chewing up the disk something fierce. Returned it to Amazon for a new one. I still have the replacement in the bedroom, but it's been nothing but trouble in so many different ways. I've moved on. Best of luck.
post #1990 of 2320
So this bears asking... What is a good/better alternative player with same features in its price point?
post #1991 of 2320
Great thread with lots of knowledge- Any ideas on this question?
post #1992 of 2320
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Originally Posted by clusterman View Post

A few months ago I purchased two lg bd690 players and have experienced most of the problems noted by the many forum people.
One problem has me completely perplexed. When new these machines would convert to mp3 but now they just remain as wave files and will not downconvert.
As I want to store more music etc, I would like this function to work . On my one machine which just recently locked up, I reinitialized the harddrive, wiping all info and did a factory reset, even doing the cold shut down and reboot several times; the machines will still not convert to mp3- looks to be locked in lossless.
Called Lg service a few weeks back and got the usual nonanswers--have you cleaned the drive? etc...
well so far my luck has been that they will play all types of discs ( so far). The first unit i bought and returned made a sound like a chainsaw whenever any disc was inserted. Does anybody have any insight or have experienced the same problem. All latest firmware installed- as well as the newest driver a few weeks back- wonder if that had anything to do with it.
I know Lg support will not be any help with this problem.
post #1993 of 2320
so for all of the folks with grinding sounds, I may have a solution. This will require you to open the unit up BTW. So I replaced my old unit with a brand new unit this past weekend because the old unit would not read BR discs. Got the new one home, and setup and updated, no problem. Then came the Avengers 3-D disc, grindy Mcgrinderton stopped by. Ejected the disc and noticed it was still spinning in the tray, telling my the disc wasn't sitting correctly when the player was trying to read it. So I opened it up and sure enough, the little magnet that pulls the disc cap(or whatever its called) on the top part of the disc drive, was no longer attached to the bottom part(the part the disc sits in.) What that magnet does is it pulls the cap part on the top piece down and holds the disc in place, other wise the disc spins all over the place, causing unreadable disc errors and ejects, plus makes a lovely sound in the process. So I glued the little magnet ring back into the bottom part, let it dry, re-assembled, and no more grinding sound and no more dis read errors. Also while I had it opened, I upgraded the hard drive to a terabyte drive and it works perfectly. Let me know if this makes sense to anyone, but it works flawlessly now...
post #1994 of 2320
Coincidentally, The Avengers in Blu-Ray was the one I was trying to watch when the grinding sounds started and your description of the disk spinning matches exactly. I tend to break things when I work on them, but this is good to know. Thanks much!
post #1995 of 2320
no problem, the fix is actually extremely easy, 3 screws to take off the cover, 4 screws to release the disc drive, and 4 clips holding the top lid onto the disc drive. Let me know if you have any questions.
Edited by RonAlam - 10/14/12 at 6:16am
post #1996 of 2320
Its been awhile but I do have to share this bit of info with you......My 670 finally suffered the dread, all symptoms showed up at once while playing a mp4, dvd, bd via usb and disc. I finally called into LG support and got someone who turned out be A+ quality!! God bless him 4ever! Check it out, was out of warranty, waived the labor fee of $68, sent a pre-paid fed-ex label via email, I sent it out to their repair center in Miss. with a copy of the receipt and in 3 days I had it back. They replaced the whole motherboard! It seems this model, maybe all in this series, suffer from bad capacitors which I had read in another forum. This would indeed explain most of the symptoms that have been logged here. So, no firmware is going to help fix some of these problems. I have the agents info if anyone wants to go there maybe PM me for it as I don't want to broadcast it just in case. I can only tell you that there is Major Differences in all areas of the player. Best Wishes, eVa wink.gif
post #1997 of 2320
Hello to all,
this is gonna be a long long reply.
I am from Prague, Czech Republic, so be please patient in case of my bad english.

I have got the BD670 firstl with a very old firmware, badly I do not remeber the versions.

I have a problem with playing AVCHD videos I shot using HD digital camera. The files have the extension MTS, 1920x1080 resolution, the AVCHD video codec.
I have got both players BD660 and BD670.
The model BD660 plays everything perfectly fine.

The problem is with the higher model BD670. Now I have upgraded the firmware version to:
MAIN ver: BD.8.97.413.E
SERVO ver: H90378 (H09LGN)

With the old firmware everything played OK, with the new one I DO NOT SEE those MTS files in folders at all. When I have renamed the extension to M2TS or Mp4 or AVI or MKV, those files were visible OK, but playback did not start and a message appeared "Video resolution not supported"

Other films, such as MKV 1920x1080 resolution are played OK without problems.
Probably it is a bug in the new firmware, the older firmware was OK, files were visible and played back OK.
I think that ingeneers from LG omited willingly or unwillingly omited the .MTS suppot !!!!!
What do you think???

And at this point my other BD660 comes on stage, and what do you think????
YES, the. MTS files are visible and are playing OK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This drives me CRAZY !!!!
I was emailing Czech, British and internetionall support, but only stupid and "empty" replyes came back.

My BD660 has:
MAIN ver: BD6.198.00
SERVO ver: H10LGN0607

What actually is the MAIN firmware and the SERVO firmware???? Is the servo only the firmware fot the blu-ray drive? And the MAIN is the actual software, simply said something like linux version of system, or Android system for cellular phone?

I have done already some research and testing:
- have read several forums dealing with this
- have read all 67 pages of this forum
- have installed all versions "BASEMAN" has posted - MAIN 413; 382; 376; 337
- have installed SERVO versions H90377 and H90378

Nothing helped !!!!!
What I saw, 337 version had one icon less, only "Premium" icon was there, the new firmwares had plus one more icon there on the main page, all together 6 icons.
This makes me thing, that maybe even older firmwares could help me to "see" and to play back the .MTS files.
OR, maybe this is a matter not with the MAIN ver, but the SERVO ver, in other words, I should flash some older SERVO firmware and .MTS files will be visible at once !!!

Unfortunatelly I have only 377 and 378 SERVO versions, do you have some older ones???
One more knowledge, all these firmwares, MAIN and SERVO are exactly the same files if downloaded from czech, german, british or US pages. There was some thinking regarding that european PAL system and/or 50Hz or 60Hz is different firmware to the US one.
IT IS NOT !!!! I was surprised too.

So this is my problem, please help if you can.
I thought even to flash the BD660 firmware to BD670, and maybe I will try it. Wifi I do not use, I use LAN network. Maybe the direct wifi feature will be missing.... but in the other hand I did not use it not even once....
What do you think?

Martin
post #1998 of 2320
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joki View Post

What actually is the MAIN firmware and the SERVO firmware???? Is the servo only the firmware fot the blu-ray drive? And the MAIN is the actual software, simply said something like linux version of system, or Android system for cellular phone?
Martin
YES

@Joki..... Hi Martin! So sorry you are having problems too....I'm sure if Vampidemic was around he might know something about your issue. I do have HL09N356 and HL09N368 which I will post links today. I have read in other forums that some people had better playback by using both BD.8.62.337.E and HL09N356. I don't know if this will help you but you can try. It's too bad you don't remember the versions when you first got the player. I believe some of first posts for this thread mentioned what was on the players after owners bought them. I'll have a re-read and try to find out. Where you able to flash with 660? Hang in there, eVa smile.gif
post #1999 of 2320
post #2000 of 2320
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joki View Post

Hello to all,
this is gonna be a long long reply.
I am from Prague, Czech Republic, so be please patient in case of my bad english.
I have got the BD670 firstl with a very old firmware, badly I do not remeber the versions.
I have a problem with playing AVCHD videos I shot using HD digital camera. The files have the extension MTS, 1920x1080 resolution, the AVCHD video codec.
I have got both players BD660 and BD670.
The model BD660 plays everything perfectly fine.
The problem is with the higher model BD670. Now I have upgraded the firmware version to:
MAIN ver: BD.8.97.413.E
SERVO ver: H90378 (H09LGN)
With the old firmware everything played OK, with the new one I DO NOT SEE those MTS files in folders at all. When I have renamed the extension to M2TS or Mp4 or AVI or MKV, those files were visible OK, but playback did not start and a message appeared "Video resolution not supported"
Other films, such as MKV 1920x1080 resolution are played OK without problems.
Probably it is a bug in the new firmware, the older firmware was OK, files were visible and played back OK.
I think that ingeneers from LG omited willingly or unwillingly omited the .MTS suppot !!!!!
What do you think???
And at this point my other BD660 comes on stage, and what do you think????
YES, the. MTS files are visible and are playing OK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This drives me CRAZY !!!!
I was emailing Czech, British and internetionall support, but only stupid and "empty" replyes came back.
My BD660 has:
MAIN ver: BD6.198.00
SERVO ver: H10LGN0607
What actually is the MAIN firmware and the SERVO firmware???? Is the servo only the firmware fot the blu-ray drive? And the MAIN is the actual software, simply said something like linux version of system, or Android system for cellular phone?
I have done already some research and testing:
- have read several forums dealing with this
- have read all 67 pages of this forum
- have installed all versions "BASEMAN" has posted - MAIN 413; 382; 376; 337
- have installed SERVO versions H90377 and H90378
Nothing helped !!!!!
What I saw, 337 version had one icon less, only "Premium" icon was there, the new firmwares had plus one more icon there on the main page, all together 6 icons.
This makes me thing, that maybe even older firmwares could help me to "see" and to play back the .MTS files.
OR, maybe this is a matter not with the MAIN ver, but the SERVO ver, in other words, I should flash some older SERVO firmware and .MTS files will be visible at once !!!
Unfortunatelly I have only 377 and 378 SERVO versions, do you have some older ones???
One more knowledge, all these firmwares, MAIN and SERVO are exactly the same files if downloaded from czech, german, british or US pages. There was some thinking regarding that european PAL system and/or 50Hz or 60Hz is different firmware to the US one.
IT IS NOT !!!! I was surprised too.
So this is my problem, please help if you can.
I thought even to flash the BD660 firmware to BD670, and maybe I will try it. Wifi I do not use, I use LAN network. Maybe the direct wifi feature will be missing.... but in the other hand I did not use it not even once....
What do you think?
Martin

Not sure about MTS file support, but there have been many reports here of the problem you reported, receive the "Unsupported resolution" error with 1080P files. Though some users have reported success with 1080P MKV files, the players seem to reject 1080P files in most any other container. Most of the reports here I believe have been from US users with the BD670 (they didn't sell the BD660 in the US).

If the player was able to play your files previously, you may be able to roll back the firmware if you can find an installer compatible with your region of player. However, this may cause the streaming services on your player to stop working as the automatic premium updates often have software version dependencies. You might be able to work around the problem by finding a good utility to remux your MTS files to MKV so that you can play your videos with the software you have installed now.
post #2001 of 2320
So I have tryed everything I could..... nothing helped...
WHY BD670 DOES NOT SEE THE .MTS FILES IN THE FOLDER AND BD660 SEES THEM PERFECTLY ???? WHY WHY WHY ????

I have tryed:
- servo 356, 368 with main 382
- newest servo 378 with main 413
- installing the BD660 servo and main, but it did NOT work obviously - the firmware update process did not start

So I have checked again the LG web pages to confirm, that the player BD670 can play AVCHD videos, and it can. The same specification is there as with the BD660 model.

I have uploaded one very short AVCHD video - only 3MB.
Please try it with your BD670 or BD660
1) Does your BD670 see the .MTS file in the folder?
2) Does your BD670 play it?

http://bluegoof.sweb.cz/14.MTS

Thank you, thank you, thank you very much for your help.
Martin
post #2002 of 2320
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joki View Post

1) Does your BD670 see the .MTS file in the folder?
2) Does your BD670 play it?
http://bluegoof.sweb.cz/14.MTS
Thank you, thank you, thank you very much for your help.
Martin

My BD670 does not see the file. I put your video in a folder named "TEST" it sees the folder when I open the folder it says the folder is empty.
post #2003 of 2320
Hi all.

This is my first post in this forum. Certainly very good forum, congratulations.

I ask you for help with a particular problem. I own a BD690 which not given me any problems, except an occasional freeze which was solved quickly. The problem comes when I try to play a specific title: The Beatles Love DVD-Audio disc. After inserting the disc, the unit recognizes the DVD format, try to read the disc but after a few seconds the unit shuts down.
Worth mentioning that I have reproduced previously other titles including DVD-Audio, DTS, DD, including Blu-ray discs without any problems and the title mentioned earlier works perfectly when I reproduce it on my PC (all formats included on the disc).

My unit is updated to the latest version and already did a hard reset but the problem persists.

Any thoughts on this? Thanks in advance. smile.gif
post #2004 of 2320
I have LG BD690C. Having a lot of problems where watching a move (MKV), it freezes at about same point after about 5 minutes into play. If I fast forward it seems to be ok for some time but it freezes again after about 10 minutes. Then it basically crashes and reboots. In some cases I have keep the power button pressed for a while before it will reboot.
post #2005 of 2320
Has anyone ever try recording media like netflix and hulu on the hard drive or on a usb device with the LG BD690?

I've recently upgraded my hard drive in the LG BD690 to 2TB so now I have quite abit of space. I've seen a few movies on netflix that isn't easy to find anywhere else, so I would like to record from netflix to the hard drive or even to a usb device. Has anyone tried this?
post #2006 of 2320
I just purchased a BD670 and I can't figure out this App system. On the home screen it looks like you should be able to add some apps, I'd love to add Netflix and Pandora for example and perhaps even a specific NetBIOS location if allowed to create shortcuts, but so far I cannot for the life of me figure out how to add an app to this screen. Clicking the + on the right takes me to another screen but I can't add anything there either. I've checked the user manual and googled to no avail.

Also does the latest firmware contain cinavia?
post #2007 of 2320
hi, i just bought a 670 and am having trouble getting it to see MKV files i have on my computer. i can browse to the computer and open the folder i have the movies in but it keeps saying the folder is empty. i checked for firmware update and was told i have the latest one, i bought it used BTW. any ideas what is causing this? thanx
post #2008 of 2320
What kind of glue did you use to hold the magnet in place?
post #2009 of 2320
Quote:
Originally Posted by RonAlam View Post

so for all of the folks with grinding sounds, I may have a solution. This will require you to open the unit up BTW. So I replaced my old unit with a brand new unit this past weekend because the old unit would not read BR discs. Got the new one home, and setup and updated, no problem. Then came the Avengers 3-D disc, grindy Mcgrinderton stopped by. Ejected the disc and noticed it was still spinning in the tray, telling my the disc wasn't sitting correctly when the player was trying to read it. So I opened it up and sure enough, the little magnet that pulls the disc cap(or whatever its called) on the top part of the disc drive, was no longer attached to the bottom part(the part the disc sits in.) What that magnet does is it pulls the cap part on the top piece down and holds the disc in place, other wise the disc spins all over the place, causing unreadable disc errors and ejects, plus makes a lovely sound in the process. So I glued the little magnet ring back into the bottom part, let it dry, re-assembled, and no more grinding sound and no more dis read errors. Also while I had it opened, I upgraded the hard drive to a terabyte drive and it works perfectly. Let me know if this makes sense to anyone, but it works flawlessly now...

What kind of glue did you use for the magnet ring?
post #2010 of 2320
standard superglue, not too much though, just a tiny drop in the 3 areas where it is supposed to be attached. After applying, push the magnet down a little to make sure it makes contact, let it dry, and viola. For lover boy....the player doesn't record streams...it is only used for storage, meaning you have to copy file over, you cant record.
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