Call of Duty:Modern Warfare.......*3* - Page 5

Originally Posted by jitu

Here we go again with the MW2 basing. Even though BLOPS is broken nobody likes to admit it for some ungodly reason but whatever. If some computer genius is determined to do so they will find a way to hack/reverse engineer a software (a game is a software) so just because MW2 is hacked to **** is because people put that much effort into it. If you think BLOPS is not hackable then you are fooling yourself. Anyone want to get into Windows VS Linux discussion? Probably not because no matter how jacked up and unstable Windows OS is majority of the people use it.

All of you can hate MW2 and Activision but I think it's still a great game and they are going to come up with another great game in November.

Originally Posted by chemical360

Never said it wasn't. In fact, I shelved it a week after I bought that as well and play it soley for Combat Training for a few laughs with friends.

But this isn't a discussion about Treyarch's games. This is a discussion about MW3 and IW's efforts of late.

Again, I WANT MW3 to be great and I am really hoping it is. I just feel it is not going to be.

Originally Posted by jitu

I am not saying MW2 is perfect because it isn't but it is a lot more fun and I can imagine it being more polished if the legal battle didn't throw everything out of loop.

Originally Posted by Daekwan

COD has kicked Battlefield's azz every single time. The 3 people that end up buying Battlefield games (and whatever other shooter you want to name.. Homefront, Reach, Killzone, etc) these days, quickly come back to COD when realize their entire friends list is still playing COD.

Originally Posted by Daekwan

COD has kicked Battlefield's azz every single time. The 3 people that end up buying Battlefield games (and whatever other shooter you want to name.. Homefront, Reach, Killzone, etc) these days, quickly come back to COD when realize their entire friends list is still playing COD.

Originally Posted by Daekwan

COD has kicked Battlefield's azz every single time. The 3 people that end up buying Battlefield games (and whatever other shooter you want to name.. Homefront, Reach, Killzone, etc) these days, quickly come back to COD when realize their entire friends list is still playing COD.

Originally Posted by mbyrnes

I can see MW3 ending up like Halo Reach. Good following for a few weeks and then the dropoff starts. Halo Reach has died off greatly, and I think a lot of it has to do with how similar MP was to older Halo games. There are only so many times you can play the same game without getting bored. If this comes out and looks and plays like past COD games I will pass. EA is going after the top spot and BF3 is looking great. The competition for gamers money is high this time, and MW isn't as fresh as it once was.

Originally Posted by chemical360

I just simply cannot blindly follow the into another mediocre effort to shell out $60 and have it sit on my shelf and depreciate in value. Mainly because my wife notices when I buy a game and toss it aside.

Originally Posted by mbyrnes

I think I am like a lot of us on AVS. I am excited about MW3, but I really need to see what this game is about first before I buy it. Battlefield 3 is coming out the same time and could be better. Both games will be supported heavily on AVS so finding people to play with will not be a problem.

I am hoping that they change the formula somehow to make the series feel new again. I really don't want different weapons and maps with the same exact gameplay. I know it will be similar, but I hope they find a way to breath new life into MW MP.

I guess we all find out in a few weeks at E3. It will be nice to see the major FPS games unveil their secrets to the world so we can begin to get an idea of which games we are going to buy this fall.

Originally Posted by Daekwan

Less you forget MW2 was a hot mess. While the game had great ideas and continued the COD storyline, it has been filled with problems since day 1. Just a week ago (mind you this is a title released 2 years ago) they had to issue another patch to the game to fix the spam messages being sent out. The amount of glitching, cheating, boosting, unbalanced gameplay, overpowered weapons/perks/killstreaks, etc.. was without a doubt the worse its ever been in COD history. No other COD game has had as many issues as MW2. With the problems it was riddled with, and their lack/slowness of support to fix those problems. I'm personally glad the "old IW" isnt around anymore to fock MW3 up.

Originally Posted by coyote_5

Trade it back on Amazon if you don't like it.



Agreed. Although I'll just buy both at release date and trade back one to Amazon if I don't like it. Odds are that Amazon will offer game credit for pre-ordering at some point, so combine that with the trade in amount and you really won't loose much. Even better would be to sell on Craigslist, you could probably get $45-$50 for one of these shortly after release.

Originally Posted by Monger

The old IW that created COD4, the greatest shooter ever made? I'm glad they're gone too.

Originally Posted by Daekwan

As great as COD4 was, (yes the greatest shooter ever made) it was where IW peaked. As I said.. MW2 was (and still is) a mess of a game. IW took everything from COD4.. and thought if it was bigger, badder, more destructive.. it would some how be better. Instead it ruined the finely balanced gamplay. In COD4.. you had a defensive counter for every weapon or perk. In MW2 you have basically an offensive multiplayer for every weapon or perk. Its like the entire goal of MW2 is to always string together a 25 hit combo.. as if you were playing a fighting game.. and get your Nuke.

IW completely lost its way. And while MW2 was still fun to play, they lost even more fans like myself when they became horribly slow to patch the cheating/boosting/glitching in the game. As if the unlimited noobtubing & marathon commando wasnt bad enough on its own.. For months at a time MW2 players were stuck with the care package glitch, the Javelin glitch, trick lobbies, ice rink games, players hiding in rocks/walls, etc.

It was very refreshing to see another developer (Treyarch) take the popular COD gameplay, and return it to a more balanced game. With guidance from Activision, old IW code, some old IW employees, new ideas and a new lead developer. Hopefully the MW series can return to the formula that made it so popular in the first place.

Originally Posted by Daekwan

You must be smoking crack. You havent seen an ounce of footage from the game and you telling people to avoid it? LMAO!!

Every single series of COD has only been more popular than the last. So popular that since 2007 it has broken all records set by a single game. Even W@W and BLOPS by Treyarch are extremely polished titles that play well. Activision has made bllions and knows this is the hottest franchise they will ever have, do you really think them adding MORE help to polish/finish what will be (yet again) the BEST selling videogame ever is a bad thing? If anything additional support is a great thing. More people, more ideas, more creativity, more refinement.

Originally Posted by chemical360

This is exactly my point. I am by no means suggesting that BLOPS is perfect or even great. I did have some fun with it on release until, as usual, it got hacked to crap.

But this right here is the basis for my belief. I think Activision and IW are too distracted from the goal, which is another great MW game, to deliver another great MW game. They called in outside help. The team working on it are probably a fractured version of the core MW team that delivered CoD4, which is widely regarded as the best in the entire series.

I mean the cons are adding up fast and the pros are fastly declining.

I know this is just my opinion and anyone here can and will disagree. But the facts are right there in front of us. I just simply cannot blindly follow the into another mediocre effort to shell out $60 and have it sit on my shelf and depreciate in value. Mainly because my wife notices when I buy a game and toss it aside.

Originally Posted by jitu



nuff said.

Originally Posted by sage11x


I hear this and I think that you are certainly erring on the side of caution when you take the bet that MW3 is going to suck wienerschnitzel.

However, one positive you haven't noted is the talent that Activision got to back IW up: Sledgehammer-- a company run by former Visceral execs (Dead Space), and Raven-- which just put out the much-under-appreciated Singularity.

I'm hoping that this influx of talent can steer this ship right-- but I wouldn't bet on it. Let's face it: even the hallowed Cod4 had a lot wrong with it. CoD is, by design, a mess.

I'll still be buying it...

Originally Posted by Myrtledog

From Twitter (@MW3Updates):

- For those asking about beta info: all I can say register at CALLOFDUTY.COM if you haven't already, and check your twitter often...

- Yes, MW3 will feature a whole new multiplayer engine. Much improved since MW2. Info on multiplayer will not be emerging until after E3.

- As for the campaign experience, you can be assured this game is deserving of it's Mature rating.

Originally Posted by mbyrnes

I refuse to sign up for Twitter. I don't know why people need to see what others are doing, hell facebook is bad enough. I liked MW3 on facebook so hopefully that can get me in the beta.

Originally Posted by mbyrnes

I refuse to sign up for Twitter. I don't know why people need to see what others are doing, hell facebook is bad enough. I liked MW3 on facebook so hopefully that can get me in the beta.

Originally Posted by Myrtledog

I don't care what people are doing either. I signed up for company info/deals and also the golf club I belong to posts the course conditions/club news each day.

Originally Posted by Daekwan

I was about to say. The ONLY people I follow on twitter are companies, atheletes, racers and ideas that I care about. I dont care what my friends are doing, but I do care what Activision is doing about MW3. And I'd like to know about it as soon as possible. When used that way.. Twitter is a great tool for one-stop shop, up to the minute, 1st hand updates straight from 'the horses mouth'.

Originally Posted by mbyrnes

I actually signed up. I won't give out my account to friend and family, but I figure it could be good for hobbies if I follow companies. Sure Daekwan will beat all of us to it, but it will still give me the heads up to check it!