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post #9211 of 10486
Ladies, ladies. Calm down. Here's how it works:

Type 95 guy: "Shotguns are OP! Boo Hoo!!"
Shotgun guy: "Type 95's are OP! Boo Hoo!!"

I'm sorry but as long as Dead Man's Nuke... er... I mean... Dead Man's Hand has a blast radius that annihilates anyone within 1/4 of the map even around the corner of buildings/walls I can't take any of this 'balancing effectiveness to not reward those who aren't as good as their score would indicate' discussion serious.

If weapon XYZ is so dang powerful then why don't you use it? It cracks me up because if I use the MP7 and go 34-2 then I get to hear in the lobby how OP the MP7 is. If I use the Type 95 I hear how OP it is in the lobby after the game. If I use the MK14 I get to hear how OP it is post-game in the lobby. I use aimbots. I use some sort of lag switch. I use wall hacks. I made a pact with the devil. The list goes on and on and on of all the crap I get accused of in post-game lobbies. The constant in all of those scenarios: ME!

Bottom line is there are a LOT of people who suck at this game and can't accept that fact because their fragile little ego won't allow it so they make up reasons that someone else 'cheated' or had an unfair advantage so they can go on with life thinking they're a beast at a video game. I'm more than satisfied with my life so I can enjoy a video game for what it is and not associate my very existence & place in this world with it. I digress. Anything I use is going to be OP compared to most people I play against. That's just a simple fact. So what's next? They going to start controlling my bandwidth to nerf me as a player? Oh, wait....

Who gives a ****? It's just a video game.
post #9212 of 10486
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Originally Posted by jeremyhelling View Post

If weapon XYZ is so dang powerful then why don't you use it? It cracks me up because if I use the MP7 and go 34-2 then I get to hear in the lobby how OP the MP7 is. If I use the Type 95 I hear how OP it is in the lobby after the game. If I use the MK14 I get to hear how OP it is post-game in the lobby. I use aimbots. I use some sort of lag switch. I use wall hacks. I made a pact with the devil. The list goes on and on and on of all the crap I get accused of in post-game lobbies. The constant in all of those scenarios: ME!

Ugh. Thanks Mr. Sassy pants that was kind of-- actually no-- EXACTLY my point but it's good to to have what I JUST said repeated so eloquently.

Also. I'm glad you're so happy with your life. It's good to hear as most of us are basement dwelling hobos who are just passing time waiting to die by bitching about a video game. Thanks for spreading a little light on our lives. We appreciate you.
post #9213 of 10486
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Originally Posted by sage11x View Post

Ugh. Thanks Mr. Sassy pants that was kind of-- actually no-- EXACTLY my point but it's good to to have what I JUST said repeated so eloquently.

So if we said the same thing what makes you feel compelled to quote me to call me a name? Argumentative much? You know when I said 'you' I wasn't talking to you specifically but was using the collective 'you' as in all y'alls, right?

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Also. I'm glad you're so happy with your life. It's good to hear as most of us are basement dwelling hobos who are just passing time waiting to die by bitching about a video game. Thanks for spreading a little light on our lives. We appreciate you.

lol

Glad I could add a little brevity to the situation. I do what I can to who I can!
post #9214 of 10486
Jeremy, listen, buddy, I'm no pro, never claimed to be, and I have never sent IW one Tweet or email, complaining about any gun in this game. We talk about it in here and I have talked with people online and a lot of people, just like with the FMG9 Akimbos, see the Type 95 as overpowered, and I've posted a video from one of the top MW3 Video gun testers on You Tube, where he goes into detail WHY it is overpowered.

I've got two accounts, one account I have a KDR over 1.50 and another account where I am at 1.26. I'm never going to going after the top rungs on any leaderboards, so I don't care about using the overpowered guns and I go out of my to use stuff that isn't always the best. I think that makes me a better player and helps my game out overall, PLUS, I enjoy the challenge. That said, when people are using guns that are overpowered and finding exploits with guns, and the community doesn't like it, I don't see a problem with them speaking up and at least wanting to have IW or Treyarch, look into it. Obviously, a couple of times, IW has agreed with the community and nerfed or buffed something when it needs it. As long as it's legit and not abused, I don't see that as a real negative. I don't think though it is because people suck at the game, I think it's just that glitchy, cheesy guns cheapen the fun for a lot of people, like encountering tons of campers does for me.
post #9215 of 10486
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Originally Posted by sage11x View Post

Ugh. Thanks Mr. Sassy pants that was kind of-- actually no-- EXACTLY my point but it's good to to have what I JUST said repeated so eloquently.

Also. I'm glad you're so happy with your life. It's good to hear as most of us are basement dwelling hobos who are just passing time waiting to die by bitching about a video game. Thanks for spreading a little light on our lives. We appreciate you.

Didn't I just explain to you WHY I don't use overpowered guns? Just because people recognize something is overpowered, doesn't mean they have to flock to it like flies onto shat. That is part of what is wrong with the entire Call of Duty community....too much of this looking for glitches and cheese, too little focusing on teamwork and skill growth.

Lots of people, myself included, like fully automatic weapons, so I don't use burst or single shot weapons, except when I snipe with my trusty Barrett.
post #9216 of 10486
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Originally Posted by jeremyhelling View Post

So if we said the same thing what makes you feel compelled to quote me to call me a name? Argumentative much? You know when I said 'you' I wasn't talking to you specifically but was using the collective 'you' as in all y'alls, right?



lol

Glad I could add a little brevity to the situation. I do what I can to who I can!

I think you mean levity....brevity means you were being brief.
post #9217 of 10486
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Originally Posted by sage11x View Post

Also. I'm glad you're so happy with your life. It's good to hear as most of us are basement dwelling hobos who are just passing time waiting to die by bitching about a video game. Thanks for spreading a little light on our lives. We appreciate you.

Hey now. I sit in my basement when playing video games. I'd stay down there a lot more if the wifey didn't mind.
post #9218 of 10486
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Originally Posted by jblank74 View Post

Jeremy, listen, buddy

I'm not your buddy, guy! I'm not your guy, pal!

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Originally Posted by jblank74 View Post

I'm no pro, never claimed to be, and I have never sent IW one Tweet or email, complaining about any gun in this game. We talk about it in here and I have talked with people online and a lot of people, just like with the FMG9 Akimbos, see the Type 95 as overpowered, and I've posted a video from one of the top MW3 Video gun testers on You Tube, where he goes into detail WHY it is overpowered.

This just seems like nit picking to me. The game is a good game. No game will ever be a perfect game.

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I've got two accounts, one account I have a KDR over 1.50 and another account where I am at 1.26. I'm never going to going after the top rungs on any leaderboards, so I don't care about using the overpowered guns and I go out of my to use stuff that isn't always the best. I think that makes me a better player and helps my game out overall, PLUS, I enjoy the challenge. That said, when people are using guns that are overpowered and finding exploits with guns, and the community doesn't like it, I don't see a problem with them speaking up and at least wanting to have IW or Treyarch, look into it. Obviously, a couple of times, IW has agreed with the community and nerfed or buffed something when it needs it. As long as it's legit and not abused, I don't see that as a real negative. I don't think though it is because people suck at the game, I think it's just that glitchy, cheesy guns cheapen the fun for a lot of people, like encountering tons of campers does for me.

Finding exploits with a gun is an entirely different thing. Those were never intended characteristics of a firearm and should be patched as soon as possible when discovered as it affects the predetermined balance of the game. We're talking about upsetting the balance which was intended to begin with and plenty of research and time was invested to make sure not any one gun was too powerful. I don't think they intended the damage or range glitches. I don't think they intended for the Akimbo FMG9's to be so powerful in use. That's different from the conversation that's being had here though.

How can you 'not care' about your stats yet you have two accounts? Seems counter intuitive to me.

Am I the ONLY one who watches kill cams to see how I effed up and NOT what weapon or cheap perks he used? Maybe that's how I got better than them is I use kill cams to find fault in my and not fault in the other player which won't ever get you anywhere.
post #9219 of 10486
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Originally Posted by jblank74 View Post

I think you mean levity....brevity means you were being brief.

Yeah, that is what I meant. pwnd bi spehll checkar!
post #9220 of 10486
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Originally Posted by mrlittlejeans View Post

Hey now. I sit in my basement when playing video games. I'd stay down there a lot more if the wifey didn't mind.

I spend a LOT of time in my basement too. I have nothing against basement dwellers.
post #9221 of 10486
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Originally Posted by jblank74 View Post

I didn't miss any point, what my opinion is, is that I am fine with truly overpowered guns getting a tweak, if the community feels they need it, that doesn't bother me and it's not like other games haven't had similar changes based on community preferences. Now if we get to a point where the community is REALLY nitpicking things, and IW bends over backwards to put those changes into effect, that is where I will draw the line. I don't want to see the game be completely driven by the community, but some adaptation on overpowered weapons like the Type 95 and the Akimbo FMG's is quite legitimate, because there is/was a real issue.

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Finally, I never said I wanted perfect balance, so for you to put that in quotes is misleading and frankly, disingenuous. In fact, I said almost the opposite....here, let ME quote.

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Wanting something with a dramatic advantage to be tweaked, doesn't not equal "perfect balance". I can't say it any clearer, how could you have misunderstood that?

First of all, let's be real here and understand that we're talking about a video game so no ones feelings should be getting hurt. However, you distinctly implied that people who use shotguns were morons. I use a shotgun so that must mean I'm a moron. Not offended but after a statement like that you had better believe I'm going to give you some ****! Lol!

Secondly, you DID miss my point:
"Now if we get to a point where the community is REALLY nitpicking things, and IW bends over backwards to put those changes into effect, that is where I will draw the line. I don't want to see the game be completely driven by the community..."
We're there, dude.

Lastly, I didn't quote you with "perfect balance", I implied that you and people who share your opinion that IW should continue ****ing with this game until they get it right in your eyes are looking for 'perfect balance'-- note the single quotations.

Also, you clearly haven't ever spent serious time with the type 95 as you would know that it's the most infuriatingly connection biased gun in the game. I don't give a **** about the video you posted as I've used the gun extensively and I KNOW how unreliable it is. Seriously, how about 5 bursts at long range with at least a hit marker in each burst! When that happens I mine as well equip the ump and pop fire him at that point! You claim the 95 is "dramatically" OP-- sorry but you're wrong! Lol!

This is the second time you've gone on about the ak47. Jblank, I'm sorry but I think you're just disappointed that the gun isn't what it used to be. Grab something else and start pwning faces!
post #9222 of 10486
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Originally Posted by jeremyhelling View Post

I'm not your buddy, guy! I'm not your guy, pal!



This just seems like nit picking to me. The game is a good game. No game will ever be a perfect game.



Finding exploits with a gun is an entirely different thing. Those were never intended characteristics of a firearm and should be patched as soon as possible when discovered as it affects the predetermined balance of the game. We're talking about upsetting the balance which was intended to begin with and plenty of research and time was invested to make sure not any one gun was too powerful. I don't think they intended the damage or range glitches. I don't think they intended for the Akimbo FMG9's to be so powerful in use. That's different from the conversation that's being had here though.

How can you 'not care' about your stats yet you have two accounts? Seems counter intuitive to me.

Am I the ONLY one who watches kill cams to see how I effed up and NOT what weapon or cheap perks he used? Maybe that's how I got better than them is I use kill cams to find fault in my and not fault in the other player which won't ever get you anywhere.


I have two 360's, one in the bedroom, one downstairs in our den. That is why I have two accounts....has nothing to do with stats.

To turn your posit back to you, do you think IW intended for the Type 95 to be a one burst kill weapon, as it often is, even though it shoots a smaller, weaker cartridge than the AK47, which takes at least one more bullet to kill a target, under 25 meters? Just my opinion, but I think they have just made a mistake and as people have gotten more into using the gun, more people are seeing just how good it can be, even when used by an average player.
post #9223 of 10486
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Originally Posted by sage11x View Post

First of all, let's be real here and understand that we're talking about a video game so no ones feelings should be getting hurt. However, you distinctly implied that people who use shotguns were morons. I use a shotgun so that must mean I'm a moron. Not offended but after a statement like that you had better believe I'm going to give you some ****! Lol!

Secondly, you DID miss my point:
"Now if we get to a point where the community is REALLY nitpicking things, and IW bends over backwards to put those changes into effect, that is where I will draw the line. I don't want to see the game be completely driven by the community..."
We're there, dude.

Lastly, I didn't quote you with "perfect balance", I implied that you and people who share your opinion that IW should continue ****ing with this game until Rey get it right in your eyes are looking for 'perfect balance'-- note the single quotations.

Also, you clearly haven't ever spent serious time with the type 95 as you would know that it's the most infuriatingly connection biased gun in the game. I don't give a **** about the video you posted as I've used the gun extensively and I KNOW how unreliable it is. Seriously, how about 5 bursts at long range with at least a hit marker in each burst! When that happens I mine as well equip the ump and pop fire him at that point! You claim the 95 is "dramatically" OP-- sorry but you're wrong! Lol!

This is the second time you've gone on about the ak47. Jblank, I'm sorry but I think you're just disappointed that the gun isn't what it used to be. Grab something else and start pwning faces!

I suck at quoting so I will respond paragraph to paragraph.

"Shotgun morons" was more to the people that I see mis-using them, jumping around like kangaroos on crack, running like madmen....I probably should have been more specific, but I see a lot of goofy teenagers using them and I can't stand HOW they use them.

No, again, I didn't miss your point, and no, again, I don't think IW responding to a legitimate gripe about a guns performance, is tantamount to IW letting the inmates run the asylum.

And I stated clearly, I don't WANT perfect balance and I don't think tweaking here and there is going to give us that either. This is going to be what, the third legitimate weapon tweak, in five months? Come on, that's hardly some sort of constant meddling with the game. Everyone is going to have guns they are better with than others, but the FMG's and the Type 95 just go over the line a bit and a lot of people agree with that.

No, I am not wrong and while it may be connection based for you, the gun can easily kill in one burst....hell, I've done it tons of times and had it happen tons more. If you would at least watch Driftor test the gun, I think you will see he makes a strong case and backs it up quite well. This isn't merely anecdotal.

I'm not complaining about the AK-47.....if I hated it, why would I continue to occasionally use it? My kits are primarily the MP7, then the Barrett, and used less frequently are the AK-47, the MG36 LMG, MP5, and the G36C. I will be glad to post my stats with each gun to prove that is what I use if need be.
post #9224 of 10486
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Originally Posted by jblank74 View Post

To turn your posit back to you, do you think IW intended for the Type 95 to be a one burst kill weapon...

Yes! That's EXACTLY what they intended which is why they made it do 55 damage per bullet at close range! Lololol! The gun has the most dramatic fall off of any other AR in the game as it drops to 20 damage at long range! That means it will take 2 bursts if every bullet hits and up to 5 if only one hits! That's EXACTLY how they wanted it-- THEY PROGRAMMED IT THAT WAY!

You said yourself you don't use burst weapons... Well mw3 is like cod4 plus stopping power. All the weapons have been given a boost at close range and fall off a bit more at long range-- the type 95, personally, may be the most balanced 3 round burst yet in this series! Seriously, I'd hate for you to play against me in cod 4 (m16), mw2 (famas) or blops (g11) as those weapons were excellent and far more reliable as a 1-2 burst kill! You'd rage quit against me, buddy!
post #9225 of 10486
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Originally Posted by jblank74 View Post

I have two 360's, one in the bedroom, one downstairs in our den. That is why I have two accounts....has nothing to do with stats.

I have three 360's and yet one account I use for MW3. None of my other accounts have ever even seen a MW3 game. Just saying...

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To turn your posit back to you, do you think IW intended for the Type 95 to be a one burst kill weapon, as it often is, even though it shoots a smaller, weaker cartridge than the AK47, which takes at least one more bullet to kill a target, under 25 meters? Just my opinion, but I think they have just made a mistake and as people have gotten more into using the gun, more people are seeing just how good it can be, even when used by an average player.

Yeah, I think that's what the intention was when all the variables are perfect. Just like the shotguns are a one shot 'burst' kill when all the variables are perfect. Just like sniper rifles are a one shot 'burst' kill. To say that a rifle that gives up in SO many other aspects doesn't deserve this increase in on area is just silly. I think you're focusing on how good it can be and not how bad it can be. Good people will work around the bad to make something look better than it is. It cracks me up how people go on and on about how the Type 95 w/Rapid fire is OP when I don't even use rapid fire. I get people who say Assassin is the most OP perk in the game and I don't even use it. I get people saying that other perks are OP and I laugh to myself because I don't use those either. If you want to find something OP you will. If you want to find what you like and play the game with the idea of finding your OWN faults you will improve those and the weapons others use won't even matter.
post #9226 of 10486
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Originally Posted by sage11x View Post

Yes! That's EXACTLY what they intended which is why they made it do 55 damage per bullet at close range! Lololol! The gun has the most dramatic fall off of any other AR in the game as it drops to 20 damage at long range! That means it will take 2 bursts if every bullet hits and up to 5 if only one hits! That's EXACTLY how they wanted it-- THEY PROGRAMMED IT THAT WAY!

You said yourself you don't use burst weapons... Well mw3 is like cod4 plus stopping power. All the weapons have been given a boost at close range and fall off a bit more at long range-- the type 95, personally, may be the most balanced 3 round burst yet in this series! Seriously, I'd hate for you to play against me in cod 4 (m16), mw2 (famas) or blops (g11) as those weapons were excellent and far more reliable as a 1-2 burst kill! You'd rage quit against me, buddy!

Well said. I can't believe someone would be outraged because a 3rd burst weapon can kill in ONE BURST! **GASP**

"...just don't touch my Barret that I get single round kills with and quick scope all the time in CQC." is what most are thinking who bitch about the Type 95
post #9227 of 10486
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Originally Posted by jblank74 View Post

"Shotgun morons" was more to the people that I see mis-using them, jumping around like kangaroos on crack, running like madmen....I probably should have been more specific, but I see a lot of goofy teenagers using them and I can't stand HOW they use them.

Roflol! Where's Pill or Myst when I need them... They can tell you that this is EXACTLY HOW I PLAY!

Jblank, I'm one of your shotgun morons!
post #9228 of 10486
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Originally Posted by jeremyhelling View Post

I have three 360's and yet one account I use for MW3. None of my other accounts have ever even seen a MW3 game. Just saying...



Yeah, I think that's what the intention was when all the variables are perfect. Just like the shotguns are a one shot 'burst' kill when all the variables are perfect. Just like sniper rifles are a one shot 'burst' kill. To say that a rifle that gives up in SO many other aspects doesn't deserve this increase in on area is just silly. I think you're focusing on how good it can be and not how bad it can be. Good people will work around the bad to make something look better than it is. It cracks me up how people go on and on about how the Type 95 w/Rapid fire is OP when I don't even use rapid fire. I get people who say Assassin is the most OP perk in the game and I don't even use it. I get people saying that other perks are OP and I laugh to myself because I don't use those either. If you want to find something OP you will. If you want to find what you like and play the game with the idea of finding your OWN faults you will improve those and the weapons others use won't even matter.



I have found it was easier to have two seperate accounts rather than have one account on two and besides, I've been using them this way since 2007.

Anyway, agree to disagree I guess. As usual I'm fighting my own battle here and getting double-teamed, so it's getting a bit pointless, especially when you and Sage aren't even willing (it seems) to look at the video evidence, or be open minded enough to give an ear to what many people, not just myself, say about the Type 95. I certainly here both of you and can see how it can be dependent on connection (for the user of the gun), but in albeit small sample size, I can see how the gun can be overpowered when at 25 meters in (as most combat in MW3 is) the gun can kill in one burst at center mass.
post #9229 of 10486
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Originally Posted by sage11x View Post

Roflol! Where's Pill or Myst when I need them... They can tell you that this is EXACTLY HOW I PLAY!

Jblank, I'm one of your shotgun morons!

Well I'm sorry and a bit dismayed to hear that. That isn't Call of Duty to me but that is your right to play that way.
post #9230 of 10486
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Originally Posted by jeremyhelling View Post


I have three 360's and yet one account I use for MW3. None of my other accounts have ever even seen a MW3 game. Just saying...

Yeah, I think that's what the intention was when all the variables are perfect. Just like the shotguns are a one shot 'burst' kill when all the variables are perfect. Just like sniper rifles are a one shot 'burst' kill. To say that a rifle that gives up in SO many other aspects doesn't deserve this increase in on area is just silly. I think you're focusing on how good it can be and not how bad it can be. Good people will work around the bad to make something look better than it is. It cracks me up how people go on and on about how the Type 95 w/Rapid fire is OP when I don't even use rapid fire. I get people who say Assassin is the most OP perk in the game and I don't even use it. I get people saying that other perks are OP and I laugh to myself because I don't use those either. If you want to find something OP you will. If you want to find what you like and play the game with the idea of finding your OWN faults you will improve those and the weapons others use won't even matter.

The tables have turned! This is what I was trying to say but this IS stated much more eloquently!
post #9231 of 10486
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Originally Posted by jeremyhelling View Post

Well said. I can't believe someone would be outraged because a 3rd burst weapon can kill in ONE BURST! **GASP**

"...just don't touch my Barret that I get single round kills with and quick scope all the time in CQC." is what most are thinking who bitch about the Type 95

Again, it's not that it CAN kill it one burst, it's that it's so easy to kill in one burst, especially when compared to everything else in its class.

Anyway, at this point, I'm tired of getting ganged up on, so **** it, you guys are right, the community at large is wrong and I'm done speaking with either of you about this anymore.
post #9232 of 10486
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I have found it was easier to have two seperate accounts rather than have one account on two and besides, I've been using them this way since 2007.

I was mostly giving you a hard time but it's been my experience that people with a 'throw away' account care more about their stats than those with only one Gold account.

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Anyway, agree to disagree I guess. As usual I'm fighting my own battle here and getting double-teamed, so it's getting a bit pointless, especially when you and Sage aren't even willing (it seems) to look at the video evidence, or be open minded enough to give an ear to what many people, not just myself, say about the Type 95. I certainly here both of you and can see how it can be dependent on connection (for the user of the gun), but in albeit small sample size, I can see how the gun can be overpowered when at 25 meters in (as most combat in MW3 is) the gun can kill in one burst at center mass.

You're fighting a losing battle because it's wrong. I watched the video and I don't care how that one random dude spins it the Type 95 is not as OP as you would like to believe it is. It also seems to not point out and gloss over all the downfalls of that particular weapon in an effort to prove a point so I have a hard time watching a 9min video and having it be a life changer the way it has for you. I don't swing from this guy's balls nor have I ever seen any of his other 'work' so I just don't care. I think the 'Type 95 is OP' is just the next bandwagon by those who like to have something to complain about. If/when that's nerfed it's on to the next thing! Whatever isn't what they personally use is the next thing.

There is NO M16 of MW2 or Famas of Blops in this game. It simply doesn't exist. Let it go.
post #9233 of 10486
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Well I'm sorry and a bit dismayed to hear that. That isn't Call of Duty to me but that is your right to play that way.

That's what shotguns are supposed to be! CQC is what they were intended for. Their effectiveness drops off REAL fast at distance (In RL I switch to slugs at any engagements beyond about 25yds) so to keep the scales tipped in your favor you need to run to the next engagement so you're there first and get the drop because the LAST thing you want when running a shotgun is to get in a wide open battle at distance with an M4 or something because you're screwed. So that's kind of the point of a shotgun so I don't get what you're taking issue with along with a lot of your other 'issues' that appear to be non-issues for most. Maybe that's why you're having a hard time finding people to back you up.
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Well I'm sorry and a bit dismayed to hear that. That isn't Call of Duty to me but that is your right to play that way.

Dude! Then WHY did IW put a sprint function, a jump function and a shotgun option IN THE GAME? Lol! In my opinion this is the very ESSENCE of call of duty! Me thinks you should try the excellent battlefield 3 if you want slower gameplay...

Also, I love the fact that my play style makes people like yourself mad... No offense Jblank but hearing someone shout obscenities after I demolish them with a striker is one of the only things I miss about this game! Honestly, you should try it! Might loosen you up a bit-- but be prepared, for every victory you will get destroyed by someone *just* outside your range or someone who turns on you between shots... Everyone likes to knock the shotguns but if they ever tried to use it they'd see it's the fastest way to kill your KD!
post #9235 of 10486
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Again, it's not that it CAN kill it one burst, it's that it's so easy to kill in one burst, especially when compared to everything else in its class.

Anyway, at this point, I'm tired of getting ganged up on, so **** it, you guys are right, the community at large is wrong and I'm done speaking with either of you about this anymore.

lol

The 'community at large' doesn't even exist on forums. The 'community at large' plays the game and doesn't give a hobo's crap about the complaining that goes on on forums. The people who seem to all agree are the 5% who go online to complain. IW is catering to those types WAY too much as far as I'm concerned. Just because you find a few people who agree with you doesn't mean you're right.
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I was mostly giving you a hard time but it's been my experience that people with a 'throw away' account care more about their stats than those with only one Gold account.

I'm done talking with you about the other issue, but AGAIN, I mostly play on the account with the WORSE KDR, the other account is for late night gaming of ALL games, not just COD.

Here is a screenshot to prove my point so you'll get the hell off my back.

Secondary Account - Titan of Saturn


Primary Account - Phobos of Mars


Now if this was solely a CoD thing, I wouldn't play more on my worse KDR account, nor would I have over 7000 Gamerscore on the secondary 360 now would I?
post #9237 of 10486
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Originally Posted by jblank74 View Post


Again, it's not that it CAN kill it one burst, it's that it's so easy to kill in one burst, especially when compared to everything else in its class.

Anyway, at this point, I'm tired of getting ganged up on, so **** it, you guys are right, the community at large is wrong and I'm done speaking with either of you about this anymore.

Jblank, I'm sorry man. I'm sure it's not Jeremy's or my intention to gang up on you but I think your perception of what you WANT this game to be and what it actually IS are two totally different things... And that's exactly where the complainers that blow up the stealth clowns twitter feed are coming from. I'm sorry but this isn't your game-- it's ours and like it or not you have to play with people like me regardless of how you feel about it.

I sympathize, I used to be just like you-- I wanted every game after cod4 to be cod4! It didn't happen and it's not going to happen no matter how much I complained. Best to just accept the game for what it is or go find something else to play. But, hey, IW is now proving that if you bitch enough and you and your fellow complainers are loud enough you can now have it your way...
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Originally Posted by sage11x View Post

Jblank, I'm sorry man. I'm sure it's not Jeremy's or my intention to gang up on you but I think your perception of what you WANT this game to be and what it actually IS are two totally different things... And that's exactly where the complainers that blow up the stealth clowns twitter feed are coming from. I'm sorry but this isn't your game-- it's ours and like it or not you have to play with people like me regardless of how you feel about it.

I sympathize, I used to be just like you-- I wanted every game after cod4 to be cod4! It didn't happen and it's not going to happen no matter how much I complained. Best to just accept the game for what it is or go find something else to play. But, hey, IW is now proving that if you bitch enough and you and your fellow complainers are loud enough you can now have it your way...


Oh I think it probably was. I'm a nice big juicy target here for some reason and it's not the first time I have had to fight a battle against multiple opponents at the same time. You guys have your little clique here, I'm not part of it, and because I'm opinionated, it means I have a tendency to catch hell and get ganged up on. I'll live, but I do have a long memory.

It's my game as much as it is yours and I have a right to comment about issues in the game. I'm a legitimate, competitive player and I'm pretty good at the game, so I will stay with it thank you very much. Besides, I have a blast playing with my friends, my brother, and my 11 year old son, who is getting to be a damn solid player.

I've never one time said you don't have the right to play the way you want to play, but that doesn't mean I have to think it's legitimate and I definitely don't have to like it. You paid your money, do what you want, especially since I'll likely never play in a game with you anyway, so it doesn't matter.

At this point, if you haven't realized that I'm not going to quit when a weapon is overpowered or camping rears its ugly head, what makes you think I am going to quit now? It's still the best shooter out there and I don't see anything coming between now and November that's going to change that.
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Originally Posted by jblank74 View Post


It's my game as much as it is yours and I have a right to comment about issues in the game. I'm a legitimate, competitive player and I'm pretty good at the game, so I will stay with it thank you very much. Besides, I have a blast playing with my friends, my brother, and my 11 year old son, who is getting to be a damn solid player.

I've never one time said you don't have the right to play the way you want to play, but that doesn't mean I have to think it's legitimate and I definitely don't have to like it. You paid your money, do what you want, especially since I'll likely never play in a game with you anyway, so it doesn't matter.

At this point, if you haven't realized that I'm not going to quit when a weapon is overpowered or camping rears its ugly head, what makes you think I am going to quit now? It's still the best shooter out there and I don't see anything coming between now and November that's going to change that.

Lol! And here I was hoping we could play together!

Look, Pill (husker) HATES shotguns with a passion and he likes playing with me (I think... )! Believe me, having a jack-ass with a shotgun on your team is very fun and the wins are "legitimate" I promise.
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Originally Posted by jeremyhelling View Post


lol

The 'community at large' doesn't even exist on forums. The 'community at large' plays the game and doesn't give a hobo's crap about the complaining that goes on on forums. The people who seem to all agree are the 5% who go online to complain. IW is catering to those types WAY too much as far as I'm concerned. Just because you find a few people who agree with you doesn't mean you're right.

Oh man... This is a doozy of a statement right here. I couldn't agree more with this. It's the same with anything-- those vocal enough are heard while the 'silent majority' who don't even know what a community manager is are left out of the process.
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