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BINGO fellow soldier!! This is the opinion that I share and wish people (who hate this game, think COD4, MW2, Blops are better)would stop the complaining HERE about it and move on as there are other games out there or go back to playing Cod4, MW2 or Blops and feel free to bitch about THIS game in THOSE threads!

Seems like this thread has become a recruitment thread to get people to stop playing mw3 and switch to mw2 or some other game.

It gets a bit annoying in my opinion ONLY because its the same complaints over and over. If it really is that bad for you, then complaining about it here won't get anything changed. Maybe people should take their issue up with IW directly or maybe stop buying their games and speak with their wallet.

That said, this is a public forum and people can say whatever they want. I don't even check the forum as much anymore because of the complaining and just catch up online with the people that actually enjoy the game for what it is.

Personally, if I hated the game, I would play something else and not look back.

Seriously. Blops and mw2 are still some of the most actively played games in XBL. There's no reason those threads need to be inactive if that's what some people would rather be playing.

It's not up to me to decide who and what gets said here, I'm far from trying to infringe on anyone's first amendment rights....but my TV is bombarded by notifications of people playing MW3 every night who used to come around here, and I think it's real obvious why that is.

Good point, and after thinking about things, I handled it poorly. I should have just walked away and I didn't.

Had some fun matches with the steelhouse crew, pill, pimp, sayhello, and goldmember last night. Played mostly dom until towards the end we played a few matches of Team Defender. I'm really surprised that mode doesn't get more love, it sure is fun.

After everyone left sayhello and I played some blops which had some pretty spotty lag issues here and there in the first couple matches. After that is was mostly smooth and I got to my dogs the last 2 matches we played. I really don't understand why I am so much better at blops, my play style is the same but I almost never get gun only streaks like that in MW3

I love Team Defender. Its a nice change of pace but it really requires a team effort. If everyone does their own thing, it can get really frustrating due to the spawning. If you have a team working together, you can control where the other team spawns. Its like domination with just 1 flag.....and the flag moves and shoots back at you

I could never really get the hang of team defender. I play objective games like the entire weight of winning is on my shoulders, cause I've been trained from years of pub games to know that no one else is gonna plant that bomb or cap that flag but me. But in TD, score isn't really determined by who has the flag, it's just a booster to the points you get from killing. But I still can't help but throw myself at the flag because I don't trust anyone else to do it, which usually doesn't turn out too well score-wise.

I'm the same way but actually our team did pretty well last night just being focused on the goal. None of us really had the flag long enough to move it to a "prime" location but we protected it very well where we had it on Carbon and Resistance. In between matches I created a class with the riot shield, MP9, trophy, and throwing knife using SOH, blast shield, and stalker. I was reminded how terrible blast shield is compared to flak jacket from blops, IW really needs to buff that IMO. I had some good knife kills and was able to hold the flag a bit. Our team did a good job of protecting the flag location by not clustering and moving just out from the flag holder to cover the entry points to our location. It mostly worked out pretty well being overrun a few times but we were quick to recover the flag. Fun stuff.

Love playing with you guys, only reason I keep doing it. And most of you are ok with my sporadic F'bomb filled rants. But I keep playing.

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Freaking hilarious.

Mass Effect 3 but the intro is spot on for me

Ehhh....the implication that the average gamer doesn't know what he wants or that people are playing call of duty begrudgingly is kinda silly to me. They're offering something no one has been able to match for nearly an entire generation at this point.

Whats strange to me is that while it's clearly been hugely influential, no one seems to be copying the right parts. They try to mimic the pace and the setting, the customizability and the progression. Then they leave out the polish, the fluidity, the speed of the interface, the general ease of playing and getting together.

When mass effect (or any other game) runs at 60 frames per sec, I can get into the game in under 30 seconds, Im not constantly waiting for people to ready up, and there isn't a load screen between every single thing I want to do....then it's been call of dutyfied. There are a few other games I could say the same thing about - street fighter 4, forza come to mind...and theyre both at the top of their genres.

That being said....mass effect 3 is pretty damn good for what it is.

Well said!!!! The part I bolded is exactly what I have been saying for a long time. Until the Battlefield devs and whoever else get the fluidity into their games, that CoD has, they will not over take it. It's that ease of control and the feel that the CoD games have, that in my opinion, pushes them over the edge. Things just work better and feel better in the CoD universe, than in say, BF or Homefront, or any of the other copycats.

I have high hopes for the next Rainbow 6, not so much for Ghost Recon, but I do hope someone gets the movement and feel right.

I dono, I think others are getting close. I mean Halo and BF3 are probably both strong contenders although BF3 (in my opinion) is far less accessible to new comers and EA should do a better job allowing for private training matches, bots, etc. I ended up selling the game because I did not have the patience to invest in learning the overly complicated vehicle controls, etc.

Although it went all but unnoticed here I thought the Crysis 2 MP was a huge achievement for their first go at platform MP. Awesome map designs, weapons, perks, really some great things going on there. I'll be watching for Crysis 3 as a solid followup to that.


I agree, it will take a reinvention of the wheel with the next gen console to dethrone COD I'd wager. I am also very very much looking forward to Rainbo 6 though and could also care less about GR.

Yeah...crysis 2 was real good. I find it actually to be one of the more tolerable 30fps games since it has really good motion blur, and the 3D ain't half bad either. Something about the shooting felt a little off though, like there needed to be more aim assist than there was. Really incredible campaign though.

Halo and BF pre-date cod - if they havent figured it out by now, they're never going to. I honestly think they just dont get it. Theyre selling on features and graphics, not a greet feeling game. They feel good but cod is still in another league. IMO, the people most likely to dethrone cod are respawn, the guys who originally made cod. Cod doesn't feel so good by accident - the guys behind it knew exactly what they were making, and they're going to do it again. Rumor has it it's a scifi FPS, but I guarantee you that whatever it is, it's going to run at 60 and be super polished.

Couldn't disagree with this more. Halo is one of the most polished and popular online shooters and a fixture for console fps. I get that you like cod but to just dismiss halo as 'not getting it' is a bit extreme. Sure CoD is more popular-- guess what else? You can't jump into a halo match as a total noob and equip some stupid **** to get kills. Halo is a game that puts an emphasis on shot skill and teamwork. BF3 is all about the objective to the detriment of everything else. CoD is all about the individual-- individual load outs, individual killstreaks, individual stats. Can you play with a team focus? Sure! Have the developers shoe horned some 'team' **** into the game? Sure! But at the end of the day, cod is very much an individuals game.

Not that that's a bad thing, it's actually what I love best about cod-- the ability to play alone and still have good games. But to knock two of the grandadies of modern fps on the grounds that they're not call-of-duty-enough for you is absurd. Lament that no one gives enough of a **** to make a cod clone but don't harp on halo and bf for sticking to their roots!

Lol! I once equated cod to an evil-slut-ex-girlfriend that you keep going back to even though she tastes like an ash tray, steals your money and leaves you with nothing more than a new STD for your trouble... And yet you can't help yourself because she's such a champion in the sack!

You're kinda missing the entire point of everything I said. Whatever merits any other series has....they just don't feel as good as cod. There's nothing about their design that precludes them from running at 60fps and/or just generally feeling better than they do. It's their decision to run them at 30fps just to have flashier graphics, and the gameplay and feel suffers.

No. They don't feel as good TO YOU.

As I said: I disagree. Happen to like the feel of halo regardless of the framerate it runs at. Nevermind the fact that halo has integrated vehicles, massive maps and real physics including actual bullet travel and not vectors-- not to mention a theater mode that doesn't impact the connections! Yeah, I mean call of duty BARELY runs at 60fps on Xbox so I can see how a developer like bungie would choose a solid 30 over an inconsistent 60 that frequently dips into the teens.

The last cod that held a constant 60 was mw2 and even that game would stutter if you threw enough smoke grenades and/or air support up. Nope, I think you over estimate that white plastic wrapped power pc...

I want to reiterate here-- I LIKE cod. But just because I like cod doesn't mean I also can't like halo and appreciate it for it's differences. Personally, I don't want every fps to be C O D... We have enough of those as-is!

I judge the success of a game by one and only one standard-sales. All the other rhetoric may be valid critiques, but obviously most people don't consider them substantive, or they wouldn't buy it...

Based on your logic McDonald's makes the best hamburgers because they sell more than anyone else. Also, justin bieber makes the best music because he sells the most songs... Sorry to use such an old and worn example but such a simplistic outlook deserves a simplistic response.

Cod is popular because it's easy to play, it's well polished and it rewards new players / less than great players. Cod is also popular BECAUSE of it's own popularity! The brand has reached critical mass where it own success is earning it more success-- it's the game all your friends are playing so if you want to hang out mw3 is what you're playing! The more people play the more they get other people to play... Last night my friends list was: mw3, mw3, mw3, netflix, mw3, mw3, mw3, mw3...

This is one the most common(and WORST) arguments about these types of things(I've been just as guilty of it at times). Best is a relative term. It's the SUCCESS, not the QUALITY of the product per se. Success in business is determined by profit-PERIOD. MacDonald's may not have the best burgers-that's because they're not trying to. Having the "best" burger doesn't make you the most successful(you're brother might make better burgers grilling in his back yard). They do, however, have the best business plan for a FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, not for the best burger. Same thing for COD. They have overwhelmingly pleased their customers better w/ an overall experience more(not just one aspect)than any of the competitors, as evidenced by their SALES. END OF STORY. If only one aspect of the game was the make or break it factor(i.e, burgers) they wouldn't be so successful. MacDonald's isn't successful because of their burgers(a false argument), it's their big picture. The same goes for COD or anything else. Nobody put voodoo juice in the beer of all the people on your friends' list. Nobody brainwashed them into playing the game. You and your friends can easily play something else-but you don't. Why is that? Do you and your friends get together often to do things you'd normally hate(until some slick marketing guru MAKES you do it)? Of course not. People play more COD because they're more satisfied w/ the product(regardless of the reasons why) compared to their competitors-not necessarily because they think it's "the best". Saying Justin Bieber doesn't have the best music is just because he sells the most songs is a false premise/straw-man argument, because no one advanced that argument in the 1st place. Justin Bieber does, however, sell more songs because more people are pleased w/ his product than other artists(regardless of whether or not it's "the best"). It's simply just the way the world works, whatever the product.

Ok-- I can agree with most of what you're saying... Which is why I can't stand behind the argument that other shooters should aspire to be like cod any more than I could get behind the suggestion that all burger joints should aspire to be like McDonald's.

I like cod but it's obvious that the series is catering more and more to the mainstream audience-- and in the process giving into the whims of every corner of the mw3 social media "community".

What I would like to see-- and maybe BD would agree with me-- is a game that combines call of duty's particular brand of fast action gameplay into a game that doesn't cater to the lowest common denominator.
I remember the first few times I played cod4 I got SMOKED. There were no death streaks or support streaks or care packages to bail me out... smoked. Overtime, however, I got better. I paid my dues so to say. Now, I understand that that won't work for a mega-super-mainstream-sensation like modern warfare 3... But why couldn't some developer aim just a little lower? Take a shot at winning over those of us who are more interested in a challenge and competitive play than running around with an rpg and my no-skill-multi-kill equipped?

I appreciate games like halo and bf3 because they DON'T cater to "noobs"... And that's probably why they don't sell as many units as cod! Lol!

I don't agree with that at all.

Too funny! I don't get into this thread very often anymore since I no longer really play the game but I really should pop back in more as its always good for a laugh. I was never a huge Treyarch fan and I never thought I'd say this but I'm actually really looking forward to seeing what they can bring this next Oct. I do miss COD but I just can't deal with some noob dropping a stealth bomber on my whole team every 3 minutes. One of the greatest things about BF3 is that there's no killstreaks.

Mack, miss you man! 8) Lol! Maybe one day I'll upgrade my ancient XPS so I can play all the sweet pc titles... As it is diablo 3 will be out this spring and I'm hoping this old rig of mine can run it. Maybe when the wii U drops I'll jump on the supposed upgraded version of bf3 they're releasing for that system...

Yeah man miss you guys too; what a great group to game with! I'll make my way back to console one of these days, maybe with a XIM3, but I'll be back.

March 20...4 "new" maps and a few Spec-ops missions...

I've been away playing BF3... is the COD MW3 Collection pack worth getting?

How much do you play MW3 already?
If you are daily player, then I would get them.
If you are a casual player I would not.

I assume these are the first 4 maps that have been released to Elite members?! If so in my opinion 3/4 (Piazza, Overwatch and Black Box) are good maps and 2/4 (Overwatch and Black Box) are some of my favorites in all the maps. That said it depends on how much you play the game.

I play pretty much everyday, but, won't be getting the new maps. Ultimately, I have fun playing but not nearly as much as I probably could, or should, so really don't want to give more money to IW. If it was a more polished product I wouldn't have any hesitation in paying for more maps.

IE. With the Halo series I always downloaded all the map packs, save for Reach.

Off topic, but the PC thread is basically non-existant.

Do any of the usual MW3 crew here play Diablo? Just wondering - the next one comes out May 15th and has been a long time coming. It's worse than crack.

But having people you know/trust can be great in that game. Anyway, just wondering.