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post #9841 of 10485
5/16/12 at 12:00pm
I agree, all of the maps you mention as sniper maps are some of the ones I do best at. I constantly sneak around the outskirts of the map and destroy people looking the other way. I can go with almost any class and do well. Air support kicks butt too since there isn't much cover. JMO but I'm also one of the few here that like the game and maps.
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post #9842 of 10485
5/16/12 at 12:18pm
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I agree, all of the maps you mention as sniper maps are some of the ones I do best at. I constantly sneak around the outskirts of the map and destroy people looking the other way. I can go with almost any class and do well. Air support kicks butt too since there isn't much cover. JMO but I'm also one of the few here that like the game and maps.

Ya...same with black box. If you're getting sniped, you're letting it happen. You've got plenty of cover on the outskirts.
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post #9843 of 10485
5/16/12 at 2:47pm
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Ya...same with black box. If you're getting sniped, you're letting it happen. You've got plenty of cover on the outskirts.

Yes, but you guys are kinda missing my point. It's not that I'm going 5-20 on these maps, I usually break even, or even have some really good 15-20 kill matches, it's that when 75% of the lobby snipes, it makes for bad (and frankly boring) games. Having to keep from dying, by either sniping myself (which I like to do on occassion) or scurry around the fringes of the maps, is kind of proving my point about the flaws these particular maps have.

You're kind of stuck into following one or two paths, either you snipe, or you scurry around the edges, and that is kind of limiting and not what I enjoy about some of the better maps the series has had.

There is a reason why when Liberation and Black Box come up they get voted down a lot, and maybe it's just that people don't find them entertaining to play on.
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post #9844 of 10485
5/16/12 at 3:36pm
Eh, it's just how it is...I'd only call it flawed if there was some sort of exploit on it, or one side was terribly disadvantaged (like mission at flag A). For what they are, they're pretty well designed, especially black box. Theres no real safe spot for snipers - the three opposing buildings make it difficult for any one squad to dominate the map, and there's so many back routes for non-snipers. Smaller maps are always more popular (like nuketown), but it'd be lame if that's all they made and didn't mix it up. I don't see black box voted down that often...the only map that no one seems to ever want to play is downturn, and it's not even a snipey map.

The only real snipey map that I despised was wasteland, cause you basically had no choice, and nowhere to hide. In the trenches or outside, it's a random death zone. The disorganized nature of downturn is kind of the same deal. Black box and liberation at least make sense and have an overarching design that determines the flow.
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post #9845 of 10485
5/16/12 at 5:27pm
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The only real snipey map that I despised was wasteland, cause you basically had no choice, and nowhere to hide.

Sure you did - noob tubes.

I don't mind Black Box, but like I said previously, I play FFA 90% of the time - running Sit Rep Pro, I usually have a fighting chance of messing up the plans of snipers camping with Tactical Insertions or Claymores.
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post #9846 of 10485
5/16/12 at 5:32pm
Lol! I actually loved wasteland for everything but SnD... And I don't snipe!

I always thought mw2 had a good balance between the insanely powerful ARs and the insanely powerful snipers-- it's not like mw3 where snipers can still one-shot-quick-scope you from across the map, meanwhile my m16 takes 4-5 bursts just to put a little jello on your screen. I used to like playing against good snipers but now I just find it infuriating.
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post #9847 of 10485
5/16/12 at 6:13pm
There is a free map. Free to Public - Erosion/Aground for CODMW3. (sorry if this is already posted.)


http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Pr...3-1eae0ca1fce1
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post #9848 of 10485
5/16/12 at 6:34pm
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Lol! I actually loved wasteland for everything but SnD... And I don't snipe!

I always thought mw2 had a good balance between the insanely powerful ARs and the insanely powerful snipers-- it's not like mw3 where snipers can still one-shot-quick-scope you from across the map, meanwhile my m16 takes 4-5 bursts just to put a little jello on your screen. I used to like playing against good snipers but now I just find it infuriating.

Thats cause you're using the POS M16.
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post #9849 of 10485
5/16/12 at 7:02pm
It's good to have a nice mix once in awhile. I don't want all the maps to be too similar, even though I don't always like it.
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post #9850 of 10485
5/16/12 at 7:32pm
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Thats cause you're using the POS M16.

Yeah, well-- someone told me once that this was a balanced game so I figured it'd be ok.
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post #9851 of 10485
5/17/12 at 6:50am
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Thats cause you're using the POS M16.

OK, I'm ready for the fruit to be thrown at me................I like the M16. It's certainly not the gun it has been in the past, but it's really not that bad. I find my most success with the ACOG on it and treat it like a pseudo-sniper rifle and it really turns into a better gun.
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post #9852 of 10485
5/17/12 at 8:00am
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OK, I'm ready for the fruit to be thrown at me................I like the M16. It's certainly not the gun it has been in the past, but it's really not that bad. I find my most success with the ACOG on it and treat it like a pseudo-sniper rifle and it really turns into a better gun.

I "like" the gun too but I agree with bd that's it's mostly useless when you can just full auto an ACR from across the map and get 3 kills in the time it takes the M16 to get ONE! But, you know, this is a balanced game! The 3-round burst weapons have been 'balanced' so they aren't OP... Which is just another way of saying THEY'RE ****! The type 95 USED to be decent before IW repealed their we-don't-negotiate-with-whiners policy and nerfed it for the sake of every duck walking, corner camping mouth-breather that populates this hell-bound catastrophe.

You know, I just realized that that's most likely the reason I don't like mw3! It's not just the rage inducing lag and the non-stop killstreak spam-- It's the fact that 90% of CoD players (current company excepted, of course) are RETARDS who thanks to the developers liberal inclusion of **** that's only purpose in the game is to piss people off have basically driven this franchise into the ground. The inmates are running the asylum and I can't personally think of a better way to remedy the situation than to return to the Sulaco and nuke the site from orbit!

Or play black ops...
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post #9853 of 10485
5/17/12 at 8:06am
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I "like" the gun too but I agree with bd that's it's mostly useless when you can just full auto an ACR from across the map and get 3 kills in the time it takes the M16 to get ONE! But, you know, this is a balanced game! The 3-round burst weapons have been 'balanced' so they aren't OP... Which is just another way of saying THEY'RE ****! The type 95 USED to be decent before IW repealed their we-don't-negotiate-with-whiners policy and nerfed it for the sake of every duck walking, corner camping mouth-breather that populates this hell-bound catastrophe.

Sometimes I wonder if you're playing the same game everyone else is.

The Type 95 is still very powerful. One burst to kill short to medium, two at range. The MK14 (single shot) is also extremely potent. For whatever reason, the M16 sucks. It's terrible. I haven't counted but it sure seems like at least two bursts short range and 3 or 4 at long range.
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post #9854 of 10485
5/17/12 at 8:14am
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I "like" the gun too but I agree with bd that's it's mostly useless when you can just full auto an ACR from across the map and get 3 kills in the time it takes the M16 to get ONE! But, you know, this is a balanced game! The 3-round burst weapons have been 'balanced' so they aren't OP... Which is just another way of saying THEY'RE ****! The type 95 USED to be decent before IW repealed their we-don't-negotiate-with-whiners policy and nerfed it for the sake of every duck walking, corner camping mouth-breather that populates this hell-bound catastrophe.

The type 95 still rapes at medium to long distance. It just not as effective a shotgun with its ridiculous hip spread.

The main tradeoff between the two is that the type95 requires more shots at a distance, but less up close. 2 close 5 long for the type vs 3 close 4 far for the m16. The main issue there, is that both still require 1 burst close, 2 bursts far - and the type 95 fires faster. So the type is the more efficient killing machine, as long as you can aim.

Still, the m16 has a lot of advantages over the type. MUCH better iron sights, faster reload, hip fire, switch times, and longer range. Its a more versatile gun if you're more aggressive, but I dunno if Id ever want a burst gun if I was playing aggressive. If they upped the fire rate a bit, reduced the recoil, or maybe increased the range a bit more, I could start to see where it fits in. Its balanced...I'm just not sure what it's niche is.
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post #9855 of 10485
5/17/12 at 8:15am
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Sometimes I wonder if you're playing the same game everyone else is.

The Type 95 is still very powerful. One burst to kill short to medium, two at range. The MK14 (single shot) is also extremely potent. For whatever reason, the M16 sucks. It's terrible. I haven't counted but it sure seems like at least two bursts short range and 3 or 4 at long range.

Well, it says MW3 on the box. Maybe I got lucky and instead of the Hardened edition I got the hardened dick edition... Cause it sure seems like I got ****ed! Hey oh!
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post #9856 of 10485
5/17/12 at 8:18am
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Originally Posted by sage11x View Post

I "like" the gun too but I agree with bd that's it's mostly useless when you can just full auto an ACR from across the map and get 3 kills in the time it takes the M16 to get ONE! But, you know, this is a balanced game! The 3-round burst weapons have been 'balanced' so they aren't OP... Which is just another way of saying THEY'RE ****! The type 95 USED to be decent before IW repealed their we-don't-negotiate-with-whiners policy and nerfed it for the sake of every duck walking, corner camping mouth-breather that populates this hell-bound catastrophe.

You know, I just realized that that's most likely the reason I don't like mw3! It's not just the rage inducing lag and the non-stop killstreak spam-- It's the fact that 90% of CoD players (current company excepted, of course) are RETARDS who thanks to the developers liberal inclusion of **** that's only purpose in the game is to piss people off have basically driven this franchise into the ground. The inmates are running the asylum and I can't personally think of a better way to remedy the situation than to return to the Sulaco and nuke the site from orbit!

Or play black ops...


I respect your opinion but will have to disagree. The Type95 is still a monster and arguably the best AR in a medium range 1v1 gun fight. It can still, easily, kill in one burst, which means you can shoot at me, and put 3 bullets, center mass, and drop me, before I can fire off 2 shots at you. That's pretty potent.

I just don't have the lag issues you speak of anymore, the game is pretty damn smooth for me, but I will agree, 100% that the community of CoD is a detriment to the game.
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post #9857 of 10485
5/17/12 at 10:04am
Finally joined the club and bought the new maps...8?
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post #9858 of 10485
5/17/12 at 10:09am
Wasteland was great, I ran the RPD on that map every time... mow the lawn baby!

The M16 in MW2 was awesome, loved that gun. It has been useless to me in blops and especially MW3. I think of all the COD's my fav gun would be a toss up between the M4 (MW2), the Famas (Blops), or the PP90M1 in MW3. But I'd take a rail gun from the first Red Faction over all of them
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post #9859 of 10485
5/17/12 at 10:12am
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Finally joined the club and bought the new maps...8?

So now we get to hear your bitching x8 to include these Fu*@!ng $h!tb@g a$$ douche camping f@gtastic new maps..."fu IW". Pardon the paraphrase.
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post #9860 of 10485
5/17/12 at 10:35am
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So now we get to hear your bitching x8 to include these Fu*@!ng $h!tb@g a$$ douche camping f@gtastic new maps..."fu IW". Pardon the paraphrase.

Like.
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post #9861 of 10485
5/17/12 at 10:53am
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Wasteland was great, I ran the RPD on that map every time... mow the lawn baby!

The M16 in MW2 was awesome, loved that gun. It has been useless to me in blops and especially MW3. I think of all the COD's my fav gun would be a toss up between the M4 (MW2), the Famas (Blops), or the PP90M1 in MW3. But I'd take a rail gun from the first Red Faction over all of them

No-- the M16 in cod4 was awesome! Lol!

Yeah, the m16 was good in mw2. Personally, the mw2 FAMAS is my favorite gun in ANY cod. M16 in blops was also good but it was definitely a situational weapon. Again, I preferred the other 3 round burst weapon in that game: the G11.

Although I have to say that none of the cods outside of mw2 has had a gun I absolutely loved like I did the mw2 FAMAS. To quote one of my favorite actors from one of my favorite movies: "well, you know, it's a toolbox: you put the tools in for the job."
(penny to anyone who guesses the movie/actor)
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post #9862 of 10485
5/17/12 at 10:55am
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Finally joined the club and bought the new maps...8?

I'll play tonight if you're on at a decent hour. Sounds crazy but I'm almost getting sick of winning in blops-- I think I've mastered that game. In any event it'll be nice to go negative, lose and generally have a terrible time playing mw3 with you again!

Kenobi, you can join too-- I know how much you love bitching!
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post #9863 of 10485
5/17/12 at 11:19am
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Wasteland was great, I ran the RPD on that map every time... mow the lawn baby!

The M16 in MW2 was awesome, loved that gun. It has been useless to me in blops and especially MW3. I think of all the COD's my fav gun would be a toss up between the M4 (MW2), the Famas (Blops), or the PP90M1 in MW3. But I'd take a rail gun from the first Red Faction over all of them

I'll take the MP5 from COD4.
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post #9864 of 10485
5/17/12 at 11:52am
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I'll take the MP5 from COD4.

Hmm... I'll see your mp5 and I'll raise you a cod4 silenced ak74u! :O
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post #9865 of 10485
5/17/12 at 2:42pm
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So now we get to hear your bitching x8 to include these Fu*@!ng $h!tb@g a$$ douche camping f@gtastic new maps..."fu IW". Pardon the paraphrase.

Spot on here!!!


Damn I miss playing with him
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post #9866 of 10485
5/17/12 at 3:02pm
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To quote one of my favorite actors from one of my favorite movies: "well, you know, it's a toolbox: you put the tools in for the job."
(penny to anyone who guesses the movie/actor)

Ronin?

If I'm wrong I guess I don't get a penny.
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post #9867 of 10485
5/17/12 at 3:32pm
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Ronin?

If I'm wrong I guess I don't get a penny.

Correct!

... Do you accept PayPal?
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post #9868 of 10485
5/17/12 at 3:59pm
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Correct!

... Do you accept PayPal?

Yes!
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post #9869 of 10485
5/17/12 at 6:57pm
In hard-core TDM I snipe w/ the M16/Holo/silencer on maps like Liberty, Black Box, etc. It's deadly accurate for me, no complaints here.
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post #9870 of 10485
5/18/12 at 6:55am
Daekwan, I think your ban was too long and we couldn't wait so we went ahead and stopped playing =p

I finally got a buyer who picked up my spare xbox and all my CoD games except MW2 which I will keep forever even if I don't play it.

This along with other things I have sold is going to fund my Glock 17 that I am picking up this weekend.

It was fun playing with all of you. Love, peace and monkey grease!
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