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Originally Posted by DenPureSound 
This thread is a Technical Discussion of Sound Quality (SQ), and how we can IMPROVE our Quality of Sound within our Environment for Stereo, and all other Surround Modes.
So tell us what was your Biggest Improvement in SQ?
Also please discuss --
** Room Acoustics** Cabling - Power, Interconnects, Speaker
** Speakers
** Room Equalization -- (i.e.: Audyssey)
This will be a very interesting discussion from day one of our experiences with Audio, to some that have over 50 years in the Audio Field either as a Professional or Hobbist.
Let's make our AUDIO "EXTREMELY PERFECT" !!
DenPureSound
WA., U.S.A.
This thread is a Technical Discussion of Sound Quality (SQ), and how we can IMPROVE our Quality of Sound within our Environment for Stereo, and all other Surround Modes.
So tell us what was your Biggest Improvement in SQ?
Also please discuss --
** Room Acoustics** Cabling - Power, Interconnects, Speaker
** Speakers
** Room Equalization -- (i.e.: Audyssey)
This will be a very interesting discussion from day one of our experiences with Audio, to some that have over 50 years in the Audio Field either as a Professional or Hobbist.
Let's make our AUDIO "EXTREMELY PERFECT" !!
DenPureSound
WA., U.S.A.
My layout and equipment, (A/V Denon AVR-4308CI):
For me the DIY acoustic treatments have been a huge-huge SQ improvement for the Home Theatre (my signature has link to thread).
As everyone here knows so well, the systems approach to the whole environment MUST be taken into account, and I got used to my bare drywall sound for 2 years.....just busy with life/etc. Audyssey can't "fix" that....but it helps, and now with the acoustic treatments + Audyssey both I, my wife, and friends notice much improved 3D soundstage, clarity, etc.
Broadband bass traps along the rear wall:
Appropriate management of 1st reflections off the ceiling and side walls:
I posted this in another thread;
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Did you treat your entire room at once, or did you treat just the first reflection points and then try it out?
I studied, planned, and implemented in stages.
Here is what I did in order and simple subjective opinion, scale 1-5, 5 being highest ranking;
-side wall treatments first - very noticable rank 5
-2nd row acoustic cloud - noticable rank 3.5 or 4, not as much as side wall treatments
-Rear wall lower bass traps - very noticable, rank 4.5 or 5
-1st row acoustic cloud - noticable, rank 3 or 3.5
-Rear wall upper bass traps - noticable, rank 4
Ethan W (and some others) recommend you tackle the bass traps 1st, then from there your side wall 1st reflections, then determine what needs treatment after that.
There is a diminishing return on $$ vs benefites gained, both subjective and objective.
Only each individual can judge when to stop and accept their acoustics "as is".
Funny thing, my ear definitley is now tuned better for acoustics, and I can hear a echo among the center channel and my rear wall back to my DW lamiante screen, it forms a echo chamber!
That's why people say go AT screen to elimiante that issue, now I will study on specific portion of rear wall diffusor and/or thin absorber to minimize that.....
I studied, planned, and implemented in stages.
Here is what I did in order and simple subjective opinion, scale 1-5, 5 being highest ranking;
-side wall treatments first - very noticable rank 5
-2nd row acoustic cloud - noticable rank 3.5 or 4, not as much as side wall treatments
-Rear wall lower bass traps - very noticable, rank 4.5 or 5
-1st row acoustic cloud - noticable, rank 3 or 3.5
-Rear wall upper bass traps - noticable, rank 4
Ethan W (and some others) recommend you tackle the bass traps 1st, then from there your side wall 1st reflections, then determine what needs treatment after that.
There is a diminishing return on $$ vs benefites gained, both subjective and objective.
Only each individual can judge when to stop and accept their acoustics "as is".
Funny thing, my ear definitley is now tuned better for acoustics, and I can hear a echo among the center channel and my rear wall back to my DW lamiante screen, it forms a echo chamber!
That's why people say go AT screen to elimiante that issue, now I will study on specific portion of rear wall diffusor and/or thin absorber to minimize that.....
That is my subjective ranking, next weekend I'll get REW hooked up and take objective measurements and post those as well, for fact based data/graphs correlation to the subjective rankings. I've been taking REW/Freq/etc readings as doing the acoustic treatments, but I share that iMac with my wife and everytime I need it takes time forset-up/etc......
to be honest, you'll never convince me of your above assertion, because the numbers simply don't back it up (not to mention your "test" is wholly invalid)...
! Sometimes one can be focused on one brand of speakers. But then when you hear other speaker brands at a store that has well setup listening rooms you start to see (hear
Your right on, where Napster streams are only 128Kbps, certainly not the best quality. Maybe tomorrow in the future the audio streams will be 320Kbps, for $5 / Month.
.. have a lot of them from years ago, but to lazy to open the player and put them in, just kidding... actually what I like about Napster is all the variety which is really nice, for picking a song, artist, etc.
