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post #31 of 285
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Which AVR? Onkyo's can be problematic in this area.

Sounds like it may be an avr issue since it works fine directly. If you have an extra HDMI input on the AVR (or exchange ports with another component) it might not be as fussy.

I bought an Onkyo 608 at the same time I bought my TV. No handshake issues with DirecTV, PS3 or Sony 3D BD player. I agree with JO, try switching HDMI inputs. Also, as far as I know the vast majority of TV's only give 2.0 on the optical output.

Watched "Open Season", fun movie with great 3D effects. Lost sync twice during the 90 minute movie...

John
post #32 of 285
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Watched "Open Season", fun movie with great 3D effects. Lost sync twice during the 90 minute movie...

John

Not promising... but hardly a LG confined issue. There's a whole thread devoted to sammy's dropping sync. The good news is that from your earlier post it looks like an issue with the emitter found in the TV (vs. the glasses) so that it's *possible* a firmware update might fix it.
post #33 of 285
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Which AVR? Onkyo's can be problematic in this area.

Sounds like it may be an avr issue since it works fine directly. If you have an extra HDMI input on the AVR (or exchange ports with another component) it might not be as fussy.
I first suspected it was the avr (pioneer vsx820) but it only recognize the xbox if the tv is on a different input than hdmi. As soon as I switch back to hdmi it will lose the xbox and the tv shows the bouncing LG box on screen. I also tried the inputs on the avr; bd, tv, DVD and dvr. All of which worked with everything but the xbox. For some reason the tv doesn't like the xbox through the avr but accepts it directly plugged into the tv.
post #34 of 285
So I picked up the Panasonic BDT110 and hooked it up to the 60PZ550. I have tried every possible combination of 3D settings and cannot get it to play 3D. At least I can't get it to play Megamind. I have seen 3D from FIOS VOD already.

Anyone have the 110 and have problems with 3D?
post #35 of 285
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Not promising... but hardly a LG confined issue. There's a whole thread devoted to sammy's dropping sync. The good news is that from your earlier post it looks like an issue with the emitter found in the TV (vs. the glasses) so that it's *possible* a firmware update might fix it.
Hopefully so. Anyone else experiencing the same thing, loss of sync with all glasses at the same time???

I also don't want to make it seem like a big deal as a tap on the power button restores sync in 2-3 seconds and it didn't really interfere with my enjoyment of the movie. Contrast that to my last visit to the theater - the woman next to me texted through the entire movie, some guy in our row made 6 trips to the lobby and the older man behind me said "Who's he? Where's he going? Why'd he do that?" through the whole film. I'll take my chances with the glasses ...

John
post #36 of 285
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I first suspected it was the avr (pioneer vsx820) but it only recognize the xbox if the tv is on a different input than hdmi. As soon as I switch back to hdmi it will lose the xbox and the tv shows the bouncing LG box on screen. I also tried the inputs on the avr; bd, tv, DVD and dvr. All of which worked with everything but the xbox. For some reason the tv doesn't like the xbox through the avr but accepts it directly plugged into the tv.
Since you have an AVR, I'm assuming you're not using the TV speakers. Can you go component from the xbox to the AVR, assuming your AVR upscales analog to HDMI to TV?

John
post #37 of 285
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So I picked up the Panasonic BDT110 and hooked it up to the 60PZ550. I have tried every possible combination of 3D settings and cannot get it to play 3D. At least I can't get it to play Megamind. I have seen 3D from FIOS VOD already.

Anyone have the 110 and have problems with 3D?
Does your FIOS signal trigger the TV to launch the 3D prompt? HDMI 1.4 from the Panny 110 to the TV? Are you using an AVR?

John
post #38 of 285
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Since you have an AVR, I'm assuming you're not using the TV speakers. Can you go component from the xbox to the AVR, assuming your AVR upscales analog to HDMI to TV?

John
Pio 820K does not upscale. Which was fine for me because I use all HDMI components, but this TV hates me I guess. Is there usually anything that can be done for the handshake issues? I was wanted to possible use a PS3 for 3D bluray, but obviously cant if it is going to be troublesome. It wouldnt be so bad if this setup never worked, but on two other TVs it did and does work.

Also just to add I even did a hard reset on the AVR in order to clear all possible corrupt settings.
post #39 of 285
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I wouldn't pre-judge the failure of the PS3 connection through the AVR until you've tried it - as I said before, mine works fine through an Onkyo AVR.

Handshake issues are a bear. I had a similar one with a previous DirecTV box in my HT - worked fine into my FP but wouldn't "shake" through the pre-pro. I just used Component but that's not an option in your set-up unless you're willing to change inputs on the TV. How long is the HDMI cable from the xbox to the AVR?

John
post #40 of 285
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I wouldn't pre-judge the failure of the PS3 connection through the AVR until you've tried it - as I said before, mine works fine through an Onkyo AVR.

Handshake issues are a bear. I had a similar one with a previous DirecTV box in my HT - worked fine into my FP but wouldn't "shake" through the pre-pro. I just used Component but that's not an option in your set-up unless you're willing to change inputs on the TV. How long is the HDMI cable from the xbox to the AVR?

John
Cables are all monoprice 5 ft high speed HDMI. I even tried an older monster HDMI. All cables worked straight to the tv and the cables used for the STB and BR worked. Is it safe to say that the problem is with the TV as this setup has worked flawlessly for months?
post #41 of 285
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Cables are all monoprice 5 ft high speed HDMI. I even tried an older monster HDMI. All cables worked straight to the tv and the cables used for the STB and BR worked. Is it safe to say that the problem is with the TV as this setup has worked flawlessly for months?
Still seems like an AVR issue. Going directly to the plasma doesn't cause an issue. Adding in the AVR causes the problem... that's just my 10 cents though.

Along the lines of John's suggestion, going directly to the tv with component inputs while using an optical audio cable to the AVR could get you where you're going. You'd drop to 1080i but your audio quality wouldn't drop as the XBOX360 can't output lossless formats (dts-hd or DolbyTrueHD) anyways. Your tv could upgrade the signal to 1080p. It's a bit of a patch with having to switch tv inputs, but it should work.
post #42 of 285
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Does your FIOS signal trigger the TV to launch the 3D prompt? HDMI 1.4 from the Panny 110 to the TV? Are you using an AVR?

John
I think I had to hit the 3D button on the remote. I'll try again tonight and let you know. I use Monoprice HighSpeed HDMI which they state handle 3D. From player directly to TV. Coax digital audio to an old DVD Surround Sound System.

Anyone have problems with Megamind 3D?
post #43 of 285
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Still seems like an AVR issue. Going directly to the plasma doesn't cause an issue. Adding in the AVR causes the problem... that's just my 10 cents though.

Along the lines of John's suggestion, going directly to the tv with component inputs while using an optical audio cable to the AVR could get you where you're going. You'd drop to 1080i but your audio quality wouldn't drop as the XBOX360 can't output lossless formats (dts-hd or DolbyTrueHD) anyways. Your tv could upgrade the signal to 1080p. It's a bit of a patch with having to switch tv inputs, but it should work.

While I don't know which one is causing the problem, it sure is frustrating to say the least. Only reason I think it's the tv is because if I change the input on the tv, the receiver will output sound from the xbox, but switch the tv to hdmi, receiver loses the sound and still has no video. Switch to tv or br via the receiver and sound and video works while having made no changes to the tv inputs.
post #44 of 285
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I think I had to hit the 3D button on the remote. I'll try again tonight and let you know. I use Monoprice HighSpeed HDMI which they state handle 3D. From player directly to TV. Coax digital audio to an old DVD Surround Sound System.

Anyone have problems with Megamind 3D?

Haven't seen it yet but it's on the schedule this week so will advise. Each movie prompts a message from my Sony 570 BD Player that I need to update the firmware but, despite 100% signal strength on my wireless connection, I keep getting kicked off the server half-way through. Is the firmware current on your player? I know that can create issues with certain titles...

John
post #45 of 285
Ok guys, I got it!!!!!!! Found my answer in a thread about handshake with PS3. I had to go into the Xbox HDMI settings and change them from auto to RGB. Apparently the TV was getting confused over the handshake between the AVR, and Xbox combined. So it is safe to say that the "problem" was in the tv from being too sensitive of the auto feature. Now, I just have to snag up some 3d glasses from Frys.com or amazon. HHgregg wants $129 per pair and will not budge on the price even after seeing the online prices everywhere. I wanted to try them on before I went and ordered 4-6 pairs. I really wanted to get some child sizes as I have two girls, 5 and 2 years old. Does anyone know how many sets of glasses can be paired with the tv at one time?
post #46 of 285
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Good question. I'm using 4 with no problem but don't know what the limit is. Field of view might be one limiting factor as you lose clarity and resolution if you get too far off axis. Don't know what the Frys.com price is, the $65 price was B&M...

John
post #47 of 285
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Good question. I'm using 4 with no problem but don't know what the limit is. Field of view might be one limiting factor as you lose clarity and resolution if you get too far off axis. Don't know what the Frys.com price is, the $65 price was B&M...

John

Frys.com was at $65 also. HHgregg claims their cost on one pair is $93. Sales manager said there isnt anything he could do with the price even though I needed and was going to purchase at least 4 pairs. Lets see 1 for $129 (hhgregg), 2 for $130 (frys), 2 for $92 (amazon), 2 for $129 (vanns.com). Seems like a no-brainer to me.
post #48 of 285
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OK.....Just got my 60PZ550. January 2011 build date. I got the 60PK540 about a month ago from Costco and since this new 2011 was cheaper I'm returning the Costco one. Got a whole slew of new features for less money. 3D, USB ports, NetCast/internet and DLNA. $1300 plus tax....$1391. Costco was $1420.

Easy set up but one main problem. I get the "no signal" LG ice cube on all HDMI ports when connected to my FIOS box via HDMI 1.3 cable. 1.4 cable on the way but why do I not get any video from HDMI? The docs say inputs work with 1.3? Am I missing something.

Using component cables for now.

Reset FIOS router and unplugged set top box just in case. Nothing.

Where did you get it for that price?
post #49 of 285
i have owned a lg 47lx6500 i am returning to lg due to problems with the tv, they have sent me a 55lx6500 that did not work to replace it so now they are just taking this tv ( 47 ) and sending me a check for $1599.00 plus 6% sales tax. now what tv is best for 3d ? is it active or passive? i am considering a panasonic vt or gt model against an lg. i already have a lg 3d blu ray player ( awesome ) and a panny bt 110 3d blu ray and 4 pair lg 3d active glasses. i can always sell glasses so no biggie there, but in all honesty no tv bias, ( lol )which would be best for viewing 3d, i watch movies in a dark room so glare willnot be a problem. thanks to anyone who can help me, owners of actual tvs are preffered.
post #50 of 285
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i have owned a lg 47lx6500 i am returning to lg due to problems with the tv, they have sent me a 55lx6500 that did not work to replace it so now they are just taking this tv ( 47 ) and sending me a check for $1599.00 plus 6% sales tax. now what tv is best for 3d ? is it active or passive? i am considering a panasonic vt or gt model against an lg. i already have a lg 3d blu ray player ( awesome ) and a panny bt 110 3d blu ray and 4 pair lg 3d active glasses. i can always sell glasses so no biggie there, but in all honesty no tv bias, ( lol )which would be best for viewing 3d, i watch movies in a dark room so glare willnot be a problem. thanks to anyone who can help me, owners of actual tvs are preffered.

If I had two LG's not work, i'd probably go with another brand.

My 60pz550 came in yesterday. Fired up with no issues. I'll try to give my 2 cents in terms of setup and issues once I get it mounted... mounting screws I had for the PZ550 were too deep.
post #51 of 285
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i have owned a lg 47lx6500 i am returning to lg due to problems with the tv, they have sent me a 55lx6500 that did not work to replace it so now they are just taking this tv ( 47 ) and sending me a check for $1599.00 plus 6% sales tax. now what tv is best for 3d ? is it active or passive? i am considering a panasonic vt or gt model against an lg. i already have a lg 3d blu ray player ( awesome ) and a panny bt 110 3d blu ray and 4 pair lg 3d active glasses. i can always sell glasses so no biggie there, but in all honesty no tv bias, ( lol )which would be best for viewing 3d, i watch movies in a dark room so glare willnot be a problem. thanks to anyone who can help me, owners of actual tvs are preffered.

I'll start by saying that my LG experience has been very different than yours, I have a 55" LCD that I use in my office as a PC monitior and for casual TV viewing. Great picture, razor sharp resolution and no troubles so far so take my opinion with a grain of salt.

I decided early on that I wanted a Plasma for 3D, just liked the picture better than similar sized LCD sets. I looked seriously at 60-63" offerings from Panansonic, Samsung and LG. Were all the top-of-the-line sets the same price, I'd buy the Panasonic VT series. But since they're not and given the advancements in the 2011 LG sets that deliver 90% of the performance (IMHO, especially in black levels) at a bargain price (< $1400 for 60" 3D), the PZ60550 was the best combination for me of performance, features and value.

Maybe not the "best" but damn good in my opinion...

John
post #52 of 285
I got the 60pz550 last nite I'm very impress with the picture quality impressive black levels the only problem is the TV remote I have to be really close to the TV and point the remote to specific direction to make it work,also I try to play NBA2K11 on 3D and looks really bad the screen splits on two parts maybe something wrong with the game.

Ubaldo
post #53 of 285
Got my 60pz550 put in also tonight.

Picture is a definate upgrade, especially compared to my other plasmas (3-year-old Panasonic TH50PZ77U, 5-year-old Hitachi 55HDT52 and a Panny 720p TH42PWD8UK). Thin frame looks real nice.

I used the picture wizard... it blows my mind a little bit. There's a little box showing you what your screen should look like when it comes to contrast, brightness, etc. for you to adjust... but if the panel is off, why would the examples be a perfect comparison to look at? Don't quite get it, but everything looked good after using it.

I do see the dancing green dots that some of the other LG's exhibit and people complain about... from 18-inches and closer. Not sure who's sitting that close to the panel to make that an issue.

Ran some 1080/24p material (Avatar, Dark Knight) with no issue using my Panny bd-65 blu-ray player, but lack the tools to see if it did so correctly. Didn't see an issue.

Won't have 3d glasses until next week and the only 3d source I have is DirecTV's 3D which is "3D light" so I don't expect much from that.

I just purchased an i1LT and plan to use it in conjunction with HCFR in the next week or two. Never used the apps, but I'll post what I come up with.
post #54 of 285
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I got the 60pz550 last nite I'm very impress with the picture quality impressive black levels the only problem is the TV remote I have to be really close to the TV and point the remote to specific direction to make it work,also I try to play NBA2K11 on 3D and looks really bad the screen splits on two parts maybe something wrong with the game.

Ubaldo

You'll need to spend some time reading the 3D section of the CD Manual. There are different settings for 3D games, one of which fixes the split screen image you're seeing...

John
post #55 of 285
Since the Plasma thread died (and would be hard to find later), I'll repost my original. I've already learned some lessons reading this thread, so I'm glad for it; however, as stated, still confused why there is a Plasma AND a 3D forum. Not sure if too much longer you can buy just a "2D" model in the future.

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I purchased mine online from Amazon. It should arrive sometime next week and I'll do up my mini-non-techy review. I can tell you this, in 1 month with it sitting in my wish-list it has dropped nearly 500.00. When I started to compare the PZ750, 950 with the 550, I was hard pressed to justify either the 750/950 price premium. This includes the advertised Brightness of 1,500 cd/m2. I might lose THX, but then again, my AV receiver is not THX certified (and no chance it will be anytime soon). A cool Magic remote? Naa. DCR? 3m/550; 3m/750; 5m/950.

Good thread, I'll keep my eyes on it and contribute my experiences.
post #56 of 285
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You'll need to spend some time reading the 3D section of the CD Manual. There are different settings for 3D games, one of which fixes the split screen image you're seeing...

John

I already try all the settings also I bought a 3D movie Wild Oceans in 3D but all I can see is double images, what I'm doing wrong thanks for your help.
Ubaldo
post #57 of 285
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I think I had to hit the 3D button on the remote. I'll try again tonight and let you know. I use Monoprice HighSpeed HDMI which they state handle 3D. From player directly to TV. Coax digital audio to an old DVD Surround Sound System.

Anyone have problems with Megamind 3D?

So.....the problem is solved. The jackwagons over at Netflix show about 20 or so movies if you put "3D" in the search box. Problem is they don't ship 3D versions of the discs.

Now I know.
post #58 of 285
Finally I find the problem,I connect the PS3 straight to the TV and the PS3 immediately detect the 3D display,now I have anothe question any one can explain why the tv change the picture settings after I turn the tv off because I have my picture settings to expert one and then changes to vivid when the tv is turn back on.

Ubaldo
post #59 of 285
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Originally Posted by ImpliedConsent View Post

Since the Plasma thread died (and would be hard to find later), I'll repost my original. I've already learned some lessons reading this thread, so I'm glad for it; however, as stated, still confused why there is a Plasma AND a 3D forum. Not sure if too much longer you can buy just a "2D" model in the future.

Agreed. When I first searched AVS for info on this new model, the only results returned were from the Plasma Forum. And although we're having a lot of family fun with 3D, I'd be perfectly happy with this set for only 2D viewing vs the other sets out there...

John
post #60 of 285
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So.....the problem is solved. The jackwagons over at Netflix show about 20 or so movies if you put "3D" in the search box. Problem is they don't ship 3D versions of the discs.

Now I know.

I called their customer service and asked the same question. So yes, even though search results describe 3D, Netflix does not rent 3D discs.

Have you seen these guys?

http://www.3d-blurayrental.com/


John
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