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post #151 of 229
Hi,
Anybody who went to CEDIA expo last week and attended the Procella demo at SR7 sound room, Can you please tell any info regarding one of the music concert clip played (It was Jazz and the singer was a pretty young female with short black gown. Near her was Chris botti ) this was played around 12pm on Saturday the last day of CEDIA. thanks!
Edited by vikgrao - 9/11/12 at 9:41am

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post #152 of 229
Never Mind found it! it was I've Got You Under My Skin (live) by Katharine McPhee.
post #153 of 229
Great demo piece.
post #154 of 229
Yep! I like their demo material a lot and i got to know yesterday that its from the selected music and concert collection on bluray sold as a bundle on the Kalidescape website. They had the whole collection i think on the beautiful Kalidescape server. I went ahead and ordered the Chris Botti in Boston 7.1 true hd on bluray on ebay which has the above performance.
post #155 of 229
Oh My God!! We are about to unleash the Dragon!! We are 200 yards from the Bird's Nest Olympic Stadium in Beijing, at the CIT AV show. Today will be the first time the P860 gets to play outside, in public.

The room they gave us measures a whopping 15m x 8m x 3.5m., or 50' x 27' x 12'. The P860 eats it for breakfast and asks for more!! From the moment we turned it on, the P860 played...

Very, very loud, yet incredibly effortless... with no distortion whatsoever!

Filling the room with Big, Detailed, Tangible, Give-Me-More Audio!

The P860 sounds intimate, comfortable, oozing Fun and Joy, basically just toying with the room, whilst putting the sound IN the space, not just in the speakers. Chris Botti made me want to get up and dance, War Horse made me want to join the assault!

We are going to spoil the Beijing audience for ever. Once they hear this...

You have three days to get over here! Really, get on an air plane, and come and listen!! This is the Dragon unleashed!!

Photos next, I promise.
post #156 of 229
What are u suggest the speaker system for room size 5x7x3 meter?
Can I use 610 for LCR or 815?
and Do u have 810 speaker or speaker that price around 6000$ ?
post #157 of 229
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Originally Posted by mamoid View Post

What are u suggest the speaker system for room size 5x7x3 meter?
Can I use 610 for LCR or 815?
and Do u have 810 speaker or speaker that price around 6000$ ?

Hi Mamoid, in a 7m room the P610 will do fine! It will deliver THX reference level SPL up to 4m, which should easily include your sweetspot. If you want THX reference level SPL all the way to the back seats, you could upgrade to the P815 for L/C/R. For surrounds your can use the P6 x 6 and for subs the P15, one or two.
Pricing is depending on your location, as sales taxes and duties vary per country/location. In general, we have 'global pricing', meaning that the price for our products is the same all over the world before tax/duties and freight. I shall send you a PM to discuss.

Lastly, I do not know what a 810 speaker is, we do not offer a model that has that designation.
post #158 of 229
I afraid that P815 is too large for my room (5x7x3 m.)
and P610 is too small to cover my sweet spot (about 5m),or not?
I think its have a gap between P610(3199$) and P815(9999$)

Thank you very much
post #159 of 229
Hi Mamoid,

You can actually use either the P610 or the P815 in your room. At 5m, you will be right at the edge of reference level with the P610. If you want even greater output levels, then the P815 will give you tremendous headroom. A listening distance of 5m is within the P815 specs.

Regarding the price difference, remember that the P610 at $3,199 requires two channels of amplification, where the P815 at $9,999 includes built-in biamplification.
post #160 of 229
I am planning to use a DA-2800 amplifier to power 3 P10si Balancing Subs. What should I use as the AC power requirement for this amplifier, when sizing my isolation transformer/power conditioner unit?
post #161 of 229
With 115 Volts, use 15A for the DA-2800.
post #162 of 229
Just curious: Any Procella owners who are *not* completely happy with their speakers? :-) Or, feel like there's a better value alternative that they've heard?
post #163 of 229
Come see us in Amsterdam! Hall 7, booth Q170! We will be playing from 3 x P815-FP, 6 x P6, 1 x P18-FP, all powered by a stack of DA-2800DSP! Anders, Chuck and I will be there!

post #164 of 229
All the updates from the ISE show in Amsterdam will be posted on Facebook, lots of pictures of the Procella sound room build-up, maybe even a video of Chuck on a ladder, hanging the P8 surrounds! ;-)

Go on then, Like us on FB, click here!
post #165 of 229
Hi Gerben,

been on ISE and at your booth ( the guy who sad the the Sucker punch demo was not up to the Procella standards biggrin.gif )...
Really it was amazing sound, better then Synthesis presentation in my opinion. Looking forward to try pushing it here in Croatia.
post #166 of 229
Yes Mr Croatia, I remember you well. And we all agree the Sucker Punch demo was not the best recording... Please let me know if you know of any better demo tracks we should use next time. And next time we will have an even better demo room! We had a meeting about that today and we are raising the bar even further! Thanks for the compliments and I am looking forward to sending the first Procellas to Croatia!
post #167 of 229
Well lately i use only last scene from the Fast Five, the one with the "safe" on the road. In most cases after that the system is sold smile.gif
A question, can you tell me which cables do you use for connecting amp to speakers with speak-on connectors?
post #168 of 229
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I must say that Kung Fu Panda is an amazing soundtrack. I think the prison escape scene is the best part of the movie for audio. It is amazing. Here is a link to a HQ video of the scene.
post #169 of 229
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We signed a contract to buy a house and we are in the midst of selling our house. The new house has a 9.25 x 6.5 meter room that is "open" to the stairs...so once we build a back wall for the room it will be our new 7.5 (or 7.75) x 6.5 meter HT! The P6's are amazing in my much smaller room I have now, and I will be adding the P10si's up front to have P610's across the front in the new room. Pretty excited! Will definitely post pics and impressions once I get the room rolling in a couple months.
post #170 of 229
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Originally Posted by gamelover360 View Post

We signed a contract to buy a house and we are in the midst of selling our house. The new house has a 9.25 x 6.5 meter room that is "open" to the stairs...so once we build a back wall for the room it will be our new 7.5 (or 7.75) x 6.5 meter HT! The P6's are amazing in my much smaller room I have now, and I will be adding the P10si's up front to have P610's across the front in the new room. Pretty excited! Will definitely post pics and impressions once I get the room rolling in a couple months.

Congratulations on the new house and good luck selling the 'old' one! How about selling the home cinema along with the house and upgrading to brand new P610, DA2-800DSP amps and a new model P15-FP? Just thinking out loud... cool.gif

BTW: 7.75 x 6.5 would be an ideal ratio of 1:1.2!! Great acoustics are possible as a result! How high are your ceilings?
post #171 of 229
Thread Starter 



Thanks Gerben! We already have 2 offers for our house before the showing, which is tonight! You can see the two pictures I have attached...one of the front wall and one of the rear wall. As I said we will build a rear wall with strong solid door. The ceilings are 2,4 meters at their highest and 1,14 meters at their lowest (where they meet the side walls). My current room is amazing but I Iook forward to a bigger room with a bigger sound. I wanted to thank you and Anders (who I will email) for your work with Pär on this new theater. Very much appreciated.smile.gif

This new room has a budget, and therefore compromise must be made. The most important thing to me in a room is the sound when the lights go down. Of course the image and sound work together to create that experience that takes you away to another place for a couple hours, however I am definitely a sound guy now. I was an image guy until I auditioned Procella Speakers, and then a new world of powerfully detailed and tactile sound changed all that. So I will be keeping the pull down screen that the previous owner is gonna leave with the house. The image will be about 310 cm x 155 (2:1). I will probably get a JVC X35 PJ which will give me the better blacks I crave.

As far as the audio I am leaning towards going from a P6 to a P610 for LCR based upon Pär's recommendation and you guys as well. 2 P6's for surround duty. I will get a Sherbourn 7 x 350 watt amp plus a Xilica dsp from Pär to handle the 6 channels of dsp amplification needed for the LCR P610's. If my budget allowed I would definitely use the Procella amps. I will most likely stick with the active P15 I have as it is a beast and "good enough"smile.gif. I will be one channel short of amplification for one of the surrounds, so I will have to pick up a 2 channel amp either used or from an internet direct company in the USA. That should leave me enough for some paint, velvet for the front wall and ceiling, and some AT treatments from Pär via Svanå.

If the person who buys our house wants to buy some or all of the home theater gear I have now they can for the right price. I would just re-buy the stuff, and the room would stay intact (that would mean something to me).

There s a lot of moving pieces here and a lot depend on if the buyer of our house wants to buy some or all of the gear I have now. I am guessing no one will buy everything, but maybe they will buy the LCR and the Screen Research CP2 screen as well as the PJ. That would not be too much money and they would be at a great starting point for a great experience. We will see. Thanks again.


Edit: DA2-800DSP.....a new amp in the works?! Just kidding, I am assuming you meant to put the 2 in front of the 8.tongue.gif
Edited by gamelover360 - 2/27/13 at 2:05am
post #172 of 229
^ Took a look at your thread and must say that is one nice looking room! Always wanted to hear Procella speakers since Dennis Erskine praised them!
post #173 of 229
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Originally Posted by pokekevin View Post

^ Took a look at your thread and must say that is one nice looking room! Always wanted to hear Procella speakers since Dennis Erskine praised them!

Thank you. That room has been the best money I have ever spent. I also have 550 blu rays and watch about 3 movies a week....and that is with 3 kids! That is commitment:D.

Procella speakers are a pretty simple proposition: Designed and engineered with no compromises in mind. After Procella lesser speakers just sound flat and hollow. Take for example the P6....a phenomenal main speaker for smaller rooms or the right surround for a larger room. Their lineup is well throughout and provides the right solution for any sized room. The flexibility of adding a P10si to a P6 thereby making a main speaker for a larger room is very helpful. Kind of like legos!
post #174 of 229
I wonder if the new procella amplifiers are in fact just re branded Powersoft amps. Certainly the DA-2800 looks almost exactly like the Powersoft Digam M28Q, except for the color om the facia. Even the technical specs are identical. The Powersoft amps can be had with DSP option similar to the DA-2800 DSP. Here in Europe the price difference between Procella and Powersoft is almost 3 times in favor of Powersoft. That seems expensive if only the color is altered..
post #175 of 229
Thread Starter 
Updated first post with P8 Polar Response Data and White Paper and Installation Handbook.
post #176 of 229
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Originally Posted by splotten View Post

I wonder if the new procella amplifiers are in fact just re branded Powersoft amps. Certainly the DA-2800 looks almost exactly like the Powersoft Digam M28Q, except for the color om the facia. Even the technical specs are identical. The Powersoft amps can be had with DSP option similar to the DA-2800 DSP. Here in Europe the price difference between Procella and Powersoft is almost 3 times in favor of Powersoft. That seems expensive if only the color is altered..

I don't know, but almost all amplifiers are not manufactured by the amp/speaker company themselves. It is the choice of product, components, how it is programmed, and how it is configured that is the work of the speaker/amp company. That along with support the customer with integration, setup, and after purchase support that makes the "product".
post #177 of 229
For what its worth, I looked into it a little bit. Going by pictures of the internals the hardware looks excatly identical. Also it seems only the DA-2800 DSP is "programmed" where as the DA-2800 is just an amplifier. "just" in the sense that it doesn't do anything special outside of ordinary pro amplifiers. In general Procella makes interesting and well received products, it just seem so darned expensive. Local price of the DA-2800 ( without DSP) is almost 7000$ eek.gif. The DA2800 DSP is 8700$ eek.gif and the Powersoft M28Q (without the DSP option) is a bit below 2400$. - Also eek.gif for at four channel amp, but still a little more smile.gif.
Edited by splotten - 6/10/13 at 12:54am
post #178 of 229
I already e-mailed a note to Chuck Back, and I won't bore everybody with the details here (and also I will probably botch the techno-speak), but I have had a serious issue with my room audio setup since my Procellas were installed (about 16 months ago). I am using Triads for balancing subs and Surrounds. Suffice to say, the Procellas were really being held back by the issue, and now that it is corrected, I want to sing the praises of Procella again here.
post #179 of 229
Hello,

Greetings from Denmark. Just wanted to show my humble home theater build using Procella Audio P6 speakers. The room is 4m x 4m with 2.6 meters to the ceiling.

Before:
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Acoustical treatment, framing, two layers of sheetrock, MDF, Ecophon Wall Panel A, and Procella P6 speakers in place:
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Black fabric and Screen Research ClearPix2 100 inch acoustically transparent screen:
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Procella Audio speakers are awesome! I want to replace my old subs with a Procella Audio P15. I use a Lexicon GX-7 amp to power the speakers and a Onkyo-processor.
post #180 of 229
Thread Starter 
Beautiful! Great job with the screen wall. That is gonna sound great. The P15 is an absolute beast. Highly recommended. Enjoy.
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