Acer H5360BD HDMI 1.4 3D Projector - Page 11

personally i would wait for the optoma gt750 with vesa port. then you have more options.

There is no difference in the glasses visual properties between dlp link and ir. Just how the signal gets there.

I really only need one pair of glasses (my wife doesn't like 3D), so I don't really need options so much as I need just one good option.

there is a difference, DLP are almost unanomously agreed to screw up the colors while IR are much better about that. the only dlp glasses I've seen rated decently are the rediculously expensive ones from crystal eyes or clear eyes or whatever it is.

Well, that is just from having the dlp link flash on. Not the glasses themselves. I am 86% sure they are exactly the same glasses other than the switching trigger.

yea, but its that flash that messes everything up from what i understand, the IR glasses appear to be much better and lighter as well, so there is definately something different about them.

I love my Optima DLP glasses, except for the weight. It is hard to wear them over 2.5-3 hrs. This usually isn't an issue, but did come into play during the ESPN Home Run Derby on ESPN 3D.

"the IR glasses appear to be much better and lighter as well"
oh, yes, the ir rechargable are lighter and nicer than the battery ones. Plus they have the changable rubber nose peice.
Those new samsung blutooth glasses look really awesome. Of course the store had them in some plastic case so you couldn't actually pick them up.

Its available on Amazon.uk

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Acer-H5360BD...1706772&sr=8-1

Thanks for informative discussion !

i am in the market for a 3D projector and i am also hoping to see H5360BD (or GT750 ) released in US.

however, i saw some comments that these 720 projectors suck in 2D mode and people solve this problem with a 2nd projector (or dual projector setup) that is best 2D 1080p for watching non-3D material (any recommendations for a 2D 1080p under 2k ? ).

i was wondering can you just convert this 2D 1080p projector into a 720 3D projector using the VIP-Displayer ? (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...323736&page=29)

far as I know the bluetooth glasses are only for samsung now. 3dtv has a set of RF glasses but its only one set and only works with one emitter, not the universal emitter they have. but the glasses are cheap and rechargable.

yes, bluetooth is samsung only, but I imagine everyone going that way sometime in the future. No line of sight or interference with remotes.

falafala, There are a large number of excellent 1080p 2d projectors in the 2k price range. The vip displayer won't turn any of them into an acceptable 3D projector however.
I would recommend the Epson Home Cinema 8700UB. If you really get into 3D you can pick up another in the future, a second 3DXL, and some spar filters and do 1080P passive 3D.

You are right, the top 2D projectors in this price range are not as bright as the 3D ready ones...which makes me nervous to that way !

Actually i am desperate to get a 3D setup i returned a Panasonic 65ST30 owing to bad cross talk and later realized that i need to go for the biggest screen for 3D !

is it better to go with 3D-ready-DLP+3DXL instead of Best2D+VIP ?

if i am going to buy a 3D-ready-DLP, VIP-Theater seems to be more expensive right compared to 3DXL ?

also i am torn between Acer H5360 vs Optoma gt720...are there better ones in this price range ?

"Is it better to go with 3D-ready-DLP+3DXL instead of Best2D+VIP ?"
Well, if you don't have a projector now and only want to buy one just get a 2D. There really isn't enough 3D content now. If you are buying both projectors and want to keep the total below $2000 just downgrade the 2D projector to an epson 8350, still an excellent projector, but it leaves enough budget for the 3DXL and 3D Dlp.

"if i am going to buy a 3D-ready-DLP, VIP-Theater seems to be more expensive right compared to 3DXL ?"
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"also i am torn between Acer H5360 vs Optoma gt720...are there better ones in this price range ?"
The gt720 is a short throw projector. If you want really good 3D you may want to upgrade to a high gain screen in the future (or if you don't have a screen now, start with a high gain one like the Da-lite Hi-Power), and the short throw will be a problem there. The Acer 5360 and Optoma HD66 are very equivelant, normal throw projectors. Either will be fine.

gt750 coming in oct, probably best one, would be one i would buy if I could manage to find the money.

I imagine the gt750 will be another short throw projector.

very short throw from what i understand. with Vesa port which opens up so many cheap options.

I'm lost as to what are the positive/negative differences between short throw - normal throw - and long throw projectors.

If you have a high gain screen, which I recommend for 3D, a short throw projector will hotspot more. Also, if ceiling mounting the projector will be right above you head, so you will be more likely to hear it's fans.
On the plus side, if you are gaming with a PS3, the short throw projector will let you stand up and not be in the light path.

Is the Acer really that bad in 2d? Are there really significantly better 2d projectors for under $1k?

1080p doesn't matter that much to me. What matters more is color, contrast, brightness, etc.

It depends on what you will be watching. If its in a room with ambient like, the acer will look just as good as a high end model because the high end model will be washed out more and the acer is brighter. If you are watching HD content in a theater friendly environment, then the 2D difference will be huge. I have a RS40 and a GT720 and my father has a benq 600+. 2D on the JVC is 100x better in my theater friendly environment, but turn on the lights and open the shades, its hard to tell the difference. I'm sure the acer, benq, and GT720 is similar in 2D. It's great for hdtv, sports, the computer, and video games. But when it comes to 1080p material and blu rays, its a big difference.

Sometimes its easier to have a short throw projector in from of you to play video games and not have to worry about heads in the way. Plus, most are very portable. I take my GT720 everywhere. When I'm in my room, I have it projecting on the wall at 84in, then I take it to the living room and 6.6ft in front of the screen it projects on my 120in screen for ps3 or just computer use. I take it outside and have it on my 220in screen. Plus, its 3D, so its many positives

"Is the Acer really that bad in 2d? Are there really significantly better 2d projectors for under $1k?"
The problem is brightness more than quality. 3D is like 30% of 2D brightness. So if it is good brightness for 3D it is too bright in 2D. The acer is 2500 lumens. My 2D projector is around 340. Throw an ND2 filter on the Acer, calibrate it, and it would be quite appealing. I do need the 1080 resolution for other stuff though, like right now I am typing on my 1080p projector. Text at 720p is nasty.

There are some very good 1080p projectors at 1k these days.

So i finally went with HD66+3DXL (only because i cant wait for Acer any longer).

i am having same problem with HD66...its too bring in 2D. i am wondering is there is some kind of shaded glass or filter we can put in front of the projector lense to lower the brightness ?

also would you please explain what you mean by "Throw an ND2 filter on the Acer, calibrate it, and it would be quite appealing." WHat is anND2 filter ? how does one calibrate a projector ? (using something like Disney WOW disc ?)

You can get ND2 filter from camera shop. I would prefer glass ND2 filter than resin type due to the heat from projector. Hoya would be a good choice.

Hi guys am i crazy or maybe i missed something. But to me it looks like the H5360BD has a vesa port on the back panel ?

It sure looks like a vesa port on the back to me. The manual says it is an rs232 connector, but I have never seen a round one. I see comments from people who are going to try it with vesa but can't find anything from people who have it working.

For us camera and lens noobs, what specifically would be a recommended ND2 filter to use on the H5360? Searching for "Hoya ND2 filter" on B&H brings 700+ results. The specs on the H5360 list the lens as F/ 2.5 - 2.67, f = 21.86 mm - 24.00 mm.

And am I assuming correctly that the filter pops on to the lens just like the Acer's lens cap?

i doubt it is becaue if you look at the manual, you have dlp mode for 3d and not nvidia mode.

The manual also calls it a rs232 interface. My guess (a wild one at that) is that the manual is wrong and perhaps it was a feature added late. I just got in trouble at work for throwing in features that didn't get documentated.