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post #11251 of 15539
So I finally picked up my 55" hx929. Been waiting a while for it.
Haven't had a chance to play around with it much. Is there any advice on how to do a quick overall check to see if the tv has any problems (ie. Bad blooming, crease issue, etc) from first look there doesn't seem to be any but are there screens that will make it easier to spot?
Thanks!
post #11252 of 15539
Quote:
Originally Posted by edtorious View Post

The TV automatically changed the scene mode to Graphics scene,
for some reason it won't let me change the scene mode.

Yep, the TV software seems to insist on "scene mode = Graphics"
for the built-in web browser -- but NOT for other internet-source
content such as Netflix or YouTube.

Just one more example of the set's extremely complicated, quirky,
and drain-bamaged software/user-interface design. Another one
that really frosts me is that there's no way to adjust "wide mode"
for net-sourced video (or maybe there is, and I just can't find it).
My workaround for this sillyness is to stream Netflix etc. through
a net-enabled Blu Ray player connected to a normal HDMI input.

It's really amazing how often I see posts complaining about game
mode or 3D local dimming, but hardly ever a rant against the TV's
many other software FUBARs. For example, hasn't anyone noticed
that the P-in-P features are useless/busted, and won't even accept
internet input as one of the dual-picture sources? Whoever wrote
that software/firmware should be banished to Baja Oklahoma.



ON EDIT, after re-reading the above rant:

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off sounding so negative. IMO, the
software quirks are just ...uhh, annoying "features" that don't
detract in any significant way from the hx929's truly exceptional
picture quality. I didn't buy it for the bells & whistles -- so it's
silly to be upset when the excess baggage is less-than-perfect.
post #11253 of 15539
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Originally Posted by bourmb View Post

If what you are telling me is true, I purchased a wifi router capable
of draft "n" speed, but I don't own any draft "n" devices! Damn, I
wasted some money!

Both the 929 and 729 are 802.11n devices, but (reading between
the lines in Sony's nearly information-free iManuals) it appears
that they're both limited to 2.4 GHz.

The 802.11n standard does NOT require 802.11n devices to be
capable of 5 GHz operation. However, I have now told you more
than I know about 802.11n -- except that [somewhere] I kinda got
the impression that even running on a 2.4 GHz carrier it's capable
of much higher data throughputs than previous 802.11 versions.

This probably explains it all -- if your head doesn't explode first.

...I have better ways to burn out my few remaining brain cells.

LK
post #11254 of 15539
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Originally Posted by egrady View Post

Regrettably, after seeing the screen uniformity of your set, along with that of Starskyj, I give up on the 929.

I've gone through two 55 sets and they both have the same problem. The left side of the screen is brighter and slightly more gray/blue than the right. The right side takes on more of a yellow tint with less brightness. With a black and white image, which I know is uniformly illuminated, the lack of a uniform picture is simply unacceptable. With a color image the picture is fine, but I'm not going to keep a set where I can't stand to look at anything in black and white.

If you haven't gone looking for this on your set, especially with minimal ambient light, don't.

What are the options for those of us who have noticed this flaw? If all 929 sets have it to some degree (although I'd wager that mine is worse than any I've seen), is there no solution? Will Sony correct this/issue a refund with relative ease?
post #11255 of 15539
Hey all! Long time lurker on this thread while I was deciding between the D8000, VT30 and hx929. Just got my new 55" hx929 that I ordered off Amazon on 12/26. I am home from college for Christmas break and will be transporting it back to my apartment at school on Friday so I will post some pics then! I was given an opportunity to upgrade from the LG 47lh90 which I loved, so I hope the Sony will meet my expectations.

I did pop it open and gave it a quick once over (without taking it out of the box) to make sure the screen survived shipping. Everything looked fine, however, I was disappointed in the packaging as there was only three Styrofoam sectionals on the top (left, center and right). There was no protection on the sides of the box and what really shocked me was that the screen was naked! I am used to having some sort of disposable screen cover on new TV's, however, maybe with Gorilla Glass they deemed it unnecessary?

I'm anxious to get this open and will hopefully have a uniform and crease-free set. I tried reading the build date but I couldn't access the bottom of the panel while it was still in the box. If it is any consolation the box has 11-03-11 printed on the inner flap (whether this is the build date of the set or the print date of the box I am uncertain). Will let you know Friday night! Should be an excellent weekend of watching playoff football
post #11256 of 15539
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Originally Posted by irkuck View Post

I established high-level channel to Sony which makes possible to relay your suggestions for improvements of the current HX line with potential for implementing them in future upgrades.

You can list your suggestions here, I will collect them and deliver. Please be specific and realistic to things which can be implemented within the current software and hardware, e.g. increase the number of zones in my TV or wanna have Playstation built-in is not realistic. Your suggestions may be addressing any area of the TV operation, user interface, PQ, applications, widgets, etc. One has to hurry since the window of opportunity is limited before they will get busy with this year TV lines.

Great Irkuck

1. Possibility to raise Gamma only in the dark areas
2. Possibilty to set highlight point higher, bright parts are burning-out
3. Here in Europe we need to be able to switch forth and back between 2 channels.

Great effort, thanks.
post #11257 of 15539
I really find it very inaccurate when you take a picture of a TV screen, especially with the dreaded camera phone. I know the pictures I take barely resemble what I'm seeing on the TV. Also what is the point of looking at your screen with source material that you would never watch. I understand for calabrating but I simply go by actual picture quality with source material that you watch. I'm happy with my 55" April build date. I use imrizzos settings and have found them to be the best for me.
post #11258 of 15539
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Originally Posted by swugly View Post

What are the options for those of us who have noticed this flaw? If all 929 sets have it to some degree (although I'd wager that mine is worse than any I've seen), is there no solution? Will Sony correct this/issue a refund with relative ease?

Given that the problem is narrow, who watches much in B&W?, I seriously doubt Sony will go to the expense of correcting it. In addition, only someone with a critical eye would even be bothered by it. This further reduces the chance consumer demand would compel them to act.

I just happened to watch the BD of Night of The Hunter soon after my purchase. My local dealer has a 30 day full refund policy. By the way, they sent their tech out and looked at my first 929. He immediately agreed that set was defective. The second one is no better, so a refund is my only option. This is a shame as I really like the set and want to keep it. Nothing else on the market right now fits my needs.
post #11259 of 15539
These are some pix of my setting images




post #11260 of 15539
Quote:
Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post


These are some pix of my setting images

Thanks, RIZZ, that reminds me of why I bought this beast, and
makes the software quirks fade into the distant background.

.
post #11261 of 15539
Quote:
Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

These are some pix of my setting images





Wow, no black crush and you can see inner detail. This is the reason that many of these digital television don't need professional calibration; at least not extensive calibration like CRTs.
post #11262 of 15539
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Originally Posted by leon_kowalski View Post


Thanks, RIZZ, that reminds me of why I bought this beast, and
makes the software quirks fade into the distant background.

.

Ditto!
post #11263 of 15539
I feel sorry for those scared away from this set
post #11264 of 15539
Fantastico, Rizz! Not just the TV but also the photography as well. I have a Canon similar to yours, but my photos never come out as well as yours...difference between a good photographer and a middling... :-)

Hugh
post #11265 of 15539
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Originally Posted by hughh View Post

Fantastico, Rizz! Not just the TV but also the photography as well. I have a Canon similar to yours, but my photos never come out as well as yours...difference between a good photographer and a middling... :-)

Hugh

been photoing since early 70's also a good tripod and shutter release
post #11266 of 15539
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

been photoing since early 70's also a good tripod and shutter release

Being doing it since the mid 60's...must be your shutter release! I have an old tripod somewhere in the attic that I purchased at the BX during the Vietnam war...
post #11267 of 15539
[quote=irkuck;21438623]Then you can make a final test of your settings using real-life test pics. If settings are optimal you won't be able to stop looking at those beauties! [/

I always set my colors to skin tones that are realistic. I see too many photos
with too much red/green hue that does not look natural. If skin looks natural everything else falls into place for color settings. Here are 4 models I use to set my colors.I use a PC-TV connection to do the adjustments,then stretch the picture followed by function key/f11 to fill the screen.

http://hdw.eweb4.com/out/468132.html
http://hdw.eweb4.com/out/472399.html
http://hdw.eweb4.com/out/333817.html
http://hdw.eweb4.com/out/427688.html This is my favorite
post #11268 of 15539
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Originally Posted by hughh View Post

Fantastico, Rizz! Not just the TV but also the photography as well. I have a Canon similar to yours, but my photos never come out as well as yours...difference between a good photographer and a middling... :-)

Hugh

I just wish I have Rizz photography skills also so I can show everyone here the same quality of picture Rizz is showing here, everytime I take a picture, it always messes it up and it doesn't really show what I'm seeing in person. I have a Sony A33 DSLR and I'm a novice when it comes to this and still learning.
post #11269 of 15539
Currently have an 60" SXRD and accept the set's audio ability. Musical content.... not all that bad if you crank it up to the right level. I realize that any TV will sound better with a stereo system...even a cheaper system.

Could use some previous owner's guidance.
Any previous SXRD owners out there with a 65HX929 now, that can roughly compare the difference in Bass response of the two sets? Got a feeling the 929's ability is lacking a bit .... Much less than that of the Sony SXRD.

Hope to find a replacement with 'OK' audio without spending another 2000 for a cheap stereo. Am I dreaming?

Thanks in Advance,

EDIT:

In a post from hughh on another thread, he included an article quoted below, about the sound improvements on the 3D sets. Just wondering if anyone has tried the sound bars and how do they perform compared to a separate stereo system, which I'd rather do without right now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by hughh View Post

Sony ups sound for 3-D TV sets; iPad gets a challenger

By PETER CROOKES
Change of view: The 3-D steamroller is far from flattening the opposition, but it is picking up pace. Sony is giving it a nudge by paying some attention to the sound that goes with it. It has just unleashed a pair of 3.1 channel sound bars, the HT-CT350 and HT-CT150 3.1. The big innovation is HDMI 1.4. This latest version of the must-have digital video connection is something of a leap forward from the previous 1.3 version. The newest flavor of HDMI includes an Ethernet connection, allowing the three new Sony products to share the broadband connection of another broadband-capable device, such as a high-grade TV. Of greater interest to TV fans is that 1.4 does a much better job of supporting 3-D television image resolution and sound. In using this connection, the trio can fulfill the audio potential of 3-D and also serve as a communication bridge between different 3-D devices, so a DVD player can pass its image through one of the HTs and get a maximum image quality on a 3-D TV. It brings 3-D gaming and home-theater systems closer to reality.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nc20100505pc.html

Thanks Much,
post #11270 of 15539
Quote:
Originally Posted by thiao View Post

Not according to the 2011 HDTV Shootout.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7...1.4;riverPost5

That "shootout" was totally biased. These guys want to sell the high end sets. Who cares that they didn't have the HX929 setup properly. CNET, never posted a correction to that article letting people know that the settings were wrong on the HX929. The Elite maybe a slightly better then the HX929, but their opinions on the sets were biased by their own interests.
post #11271 of 15539
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Originally Posted by KBW1 View Post


Great Irkuck

1. Possibility to raise Gamma only in the dark areas
2. Possibilty to set highlight point higher, bright parts are burning-out
3. Here in Europe we need to be able to switch forth and back between 2 channels.

Great effort, thanks.

Fix the 3d issue (color shifting) when tilting your head. I cannot watch any 3D material because of this.
post #11272 of 15539
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Originally Posted by akadennis View Post


Fix the 3d issue (color shifting) when tilting your head. I cannot watch any 3D material because of this.

Dennis - you can get free clip in polarising lenses from Sony to address that issue if you speak to Sony support; quite a few of us in the UK have given them a try and they do eliminate the head tilt problem albeit by sacrificing a little image clarity and brightness
post #11273 of 15539
Quote:
Originally Posted by ccrider2 View Post

Currently have an 60" SXRD and accept the set's audio ability. Musical content.... not all that bad if you crank it up to the right level. I realize that any TV will sound better with a stereo system...even a cheaper system.

Could use some previous owner's guidance.
Any previous SXRD owners out there with a 65HX929 now, that can roughly compare the difference in Bass response of the two sets? Got a feeling the 929's ability is lacking a bit .... Much less than that of the Sony SXRD.

Hope to find a replacement with 'OK' audio without spending another 2000 for a cheap stereo. Am I dreaming?

Thanks in Advance,

EDIT:

In a post from hughh on another thread, he included an article quoted below, about the sound improvements on the 3D sets. Just wondering if anyone has tried the sound bars and how do they perform compared to a separate stereo system, which I'd rather do without right now.



Thanks Much,

Not any day, those dumbo ears/attached or detached were full array of 3 way speakers. I full heartedly enjoyed them. Now in these dinky winky speakers with thin sets, you shall need a sound bar perhaps if you would like to enjoy good sound
post #11274 of 15539
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Originally Posted by edtorious View Post

Attached are pictures taken from my iPhone 4 from the walvisions website using the TV's built in web browser. The TV automatically changed the scene mode to Graphics scene, for some reason it won't let me change the scene mode. I changed the picture settings and White Balance settings to my pro-calibrated settings. I took pictures of 20%, 40%, 60%, 80% and Full White Field. Also took Full Red, Yello, and Blue Field. Also I took a pic of that before trailer notice. What do you think?

Thanks edtorious for posting those pics. I guess I have a bad set. I'm still not sure if I should go through with the panel replacement though. I only notice the banding and dirty screen during pans or when there is solid color. I agree though that the picture is amazing and almost makes me forget about the flaws. The green MPAA screen is not a big deal, and I guess I just need to avoid playing video games with solid colors. Though I should be able to view any material I want. I'm so torn right now.
post #11275 of 15539
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Originally Posted by starskyj View Post


Thanks edtorious for posting those pics. I guess I have a bad set. I'm still not sure if I should go through with the panel replacement though. I only notice the banding and dirty screen during pans or when there is solid color. I agree though that the picture is amazing and almost makes me forget about the flaws. The green MPAA screen is not a big deal, and I guess I just need to avoid playing video games with solid colors. Though I should be able to view any material I want. I'm so torn right now.

I am sorry did I miss some pics posted for banding and other anomalies here? I shall be interested to see
post #11276 of 15539
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

These are some pix of my setting images

real nice Imrizzo....
post #11277 of 15539
I have a problem if anyone can help I'd greatly appreciate it. I went into the service menu and I must of done something wrong and now my TV wont stop turning itself on and off. What can I do to fix this matter?
post #11278 of 15539
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasonjo View Post

Dennis - you can get free clip in polarising lenses from Sony to address that issue if you speak to Sony support; quite a few of us in the UK have given them a try and they do eliminate the head tilt problem albeit by sacrificing a little image clarity and brightness

thanks jasonjo, i'll try and call them today
post #11279 of 15539
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Originally Posted by alxrmero View Post

I have a problem if anyone can help I'd greatly appreciate it. I went into the service menu and I must of done something wrong and now my TV wont stop turning itself on and off. What can I do to fix this matter?

follow this sequence and it will reset to original factory settings it will also wipeout any changes you may have made so you will have to re-input your settings And stay out of the Svc menu unless you know what you are doing

To reset TV to default factory settings.

1.Turn on the TV.
2.Wait approximately 40 seconds for the TV to completely start up.
3.On the TV remote control, press and hold the UP ARROW button.
4.While holding the UP ARROW button, press and release the POWER button on the TV set.

NOTES:
The power button is on the right side of the TV (first button on top). You will see RESET appear on your TV.

5.Release the UP ARROW button.

The TV turns off and back on. Wait a few seconds and you will see the see the initial set up screen.
post #11280 of 15539
Quote:
Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post


follow this sequence and it will reset to original factory settings it will also wipeout any changes you may have made so you will have to re-input your settings And stay out of the Svc menu unless you know what you are doing

To reset TV to default factory settings.

1.Turn on the TV.
2.Wait approximately 40 seconds for the TV to completely start up.
3.On the TV remote control, press and hold the UP ARROW button.
4.While holding the UP ARROW button, press and release the POWER button on the TV set.

NOTES:
The power button is on the right side of the TV (first button on top). You will see RESET appear on your TV.

5.Release the UP ARROW button.

The TV turns off and back on. Wait a few seconds and you will see the see the initial set up screen.

No luck, when it turns on its just a black screen on my TV not even the Sony logo comes on, then the TV turns off within a 20-40 seconds and turns back on after that and repeats the cycle.
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