Official Sony HX929 Owner's thread (46HX929, 55HX929, 65HX929) No Price Talk - Page 428

It's not just Sony - almost all the major manufacturers have announced in the last few weeks that they plan to enforce minimum pricing (not just minimum advertising) on their high-end lines. Note that this doesn't really help the manufacturer - they still get the same wholesale price. What it does do is help the high end dealers who provide service to stay in business. But this only really affects dealers who buy from the manufacturer directly. Dealers who buy from distributors can still discount as they please, although with short margins, it's getting pretty hard to do that. Part of the purpose of this is to put the shoddy (but low-priced) online dealers out of business.

How much this will be enforced remains to be seen. Dealers can still get around this by offering packages - "buy this TV and get a free BD player and receiver", etc.

Note that this is only possible because the Supreme Court ruled a few years ago that manufacturers could indeed enforce minimum pricing. Prior to that ruling, they could only set minimum advertised price.

Make sure your HD cable box is set to 1080i (most default to 720p or less so that they work on all sets). Make sure you're watching the HD version of the channel.

If you still have a problem, look on the remote and press the "Wide" button. Set it to "Full".

What's the brand and model number of the cable box?
Maybe others who have the same unit, can help you with the settings.

Hi
Have last 2 days have problem with baclight level.

Backlight level changes automatically all the time for no reason.Alle my sensors are turned off but it doesn`t helps .Picture change brightness (brighter / darker) every minute.

I have been desperate.?
Is anyone out there had such a problem.

Can I do anything to fix it or do I live television to the service?

i will have to check on the model of the box but it is supplied by my cable comapny, armstrong

it is set to 1080i and i am on the HD channels

when i hit the WIDE button it is set to FULL

ah well

not a huge deal, except with the weather channel haha, some of the days are cut off

I would say it is something setup in your cable box. Is there a Menu and settings in your cable box? There should be a Display setting in your cable box menu. From there there should be video, tv ratio, tv resolution etc....make sure they are set properly

most cable box remotes use the # BUTTON as the aspect control. try it. It should cycle normal / zoom / widescreen / full screen ( all various zoom controls).

I heard the HX929 doesn't allow full-pixel 1080i input -- that is to say, when receiving 1080i, it deinterlaces it, then zooms in 2.5-5%, despite any settings you have set to enforce full pixel display. Is that true? It's a non-issue for me, as my Reon-VX video processor does my deinterlacing for me, so my TV is fed 1080p from my receiver, but this might be helpful for others to know, and in any case, I find it interesting that Sony would make such a design choice, so I seek confirmation.

Thank you. :-)

There's no reason for that - it shouldn't be happening if the settings are as you state. Can you see the entire Weather Channel logo in the lower right hand corner: both the logo and "Weather Channel" beneath it? Try watching a news show with an over-the-air HD channel and see whether you think graphics are getting cut off.

Have you used to Blu-ray test disc to see whether when playing Blu-ray, you're getting the complete picture? Most test discs have a frame that shows whether or not the aspect ratio is correct and whether your TV is improperly overscanning or not.

Also, put on Turner Classic Movies Standard Def channel. If they're playing an old 1.37 movie, the image should take the full height and you should see black bars on left and right. If they're playing a widescreen movie, it should be windowboxed (black bars on all four sides). If your set is truly set properly with no overscan, you should see a bunch of pixels moving around at the top of the display in the first row.

So far, it's really only Samsung and Sony, I thought.

And the real purpose isn't to help high-end dealers, it's to help brick-and-mortar stores period -- most especially Best Buy. It will help out some smaller, high-value-add dealers (the kind we AVSers like), but don't confuse these actions with nobility. Best Buy basically said, "Stop this nonsense where they come into our stores and buy online -- or else".

Incidentally, a lot of products in the high end will cease to be available through distributors over time to try to clamp down on that aspect of it; or else there is no way to enforce it. So I don't really agree with you that people will still be able to discount as they pleased. If they could, everyone would be back at square one because anyone who wanted to discount would just bypass direct buying.


Right, but a lot of packages are unappealing. Unless they start bundling the TV with an envelope of cash.

What the court ruled was that you could have retail-price maintenance without violating the law. Not all such arrangements are automatically legal. If this is used to choke off smaller retailers or put them out of business, there is still a "rule of reason" test this must pass. I'm not predicting a lawsuit, but I wouldn't rule one out.

Samsung going to court to basically defend Best Buy demanding its big-box retail monopoly be supported properly would be an odd thing to have to defend before an administrative law judge, the FTC or the DoJ.

Ok i hit the * on my remote and it said FULL 16:9 1080i on the TV

the weather channel is def still cut off big time. at the bottom right the weather channel emblem is cut in half

and on the left most of the words are cut off completely

i have no idea how to get into the box to check that stuff so will call the company on that

thanks

i just want to go on the record. this is the best damn tv i have ever had which includes all three panasonic plasmas px600, pz80 and gt30. going back to 2003

Ive noticed a few movies I've played lately from my dune the picture is very grainy. Is this from a setting on the tv or from the BD?

Has anyone successfully gotten their HX929 to display 120hz when connected to a computer?

I have straight HDMI 1.3 out of my video card to the TV, and I still see 60hz maximum.

I assume there is no way to fix this?

The HX929 does not accept 120Hz input. The internal scanning frequency of the display is (I believe) actually 240Hz, but the interface is a 60Hz interface.

That's what I thought, thanks.

Is there any word on if the 2012 displays accept 120hz?

As far as I know there are no TVs that take in 120Hz signals natively. The panel can display it, and the TV can do pull down and interpolation to reach 120Hz, but not accept it as a signal.

Yes. It's a limitation of HDMI and the display.

This could be related to the Cable HD receiver. I remember when I had HD cable in my last apartment, on my XBR9 I had the same issue, and if I selected Full pixel (that's an option on the wide button for XBR9), it corrected the issue but the moving picture won't get smooth. It felt as if the Cable box not capable of handling the picture in full pixel format. Now I have Dish HD and I didn't experience that issue. Also, on my current XBR929, I don't experience that issue either. Also make sure that the screen display area is set to Full Pixel and Auto Display Area is 'Off'.

This is the way I have set it up on my set
Home->Settings->Picture & Display->Screen
Setting Memory: Current Input
Wide Mode: Full
Auto Wide: Off
4:3 Default: [is greyed out because of the Auto Wide set to 'Off']
Auto Display Area: Off
Display Area: Full Pixel

I was/am referring to your cable/source remote control and the # button, which should cycle you through the screen aspects.

Hi Imrizzo,
I just picked up the 65 xbr because of this forum, Can I please have you settings? Thanks

Hi everyone. I'm hoping someone here can help me solve my problem. I just upgraded from my old KDL-40XBR3 to a new 55HX929 and everything is working perfectly except now I am having problems with my HTPC bluray playback.

About once per minute the video will stutter while the audio will continue to play fine. It's roughly a 2-3 second blip where it appears that the TV is attempting to "catch up." This didn't happen with the old TV.

I've tried tweaking the settings for the HX929, but nothing has appeared to help.

I have a Yamaha RX-A1010 midstream and I have verified that when the HTPC is connected directly to the TV the problem still occurs.

WTF?

Alright dudes, 65 inch being delivered on Wednesday....Figured I'd try to grab it prior to the price protection kicking in. Best buy matched a local dealer with a 4198 price so that rocked, but I have to pay tax on it but at least they will let me return it if I'm not satisfied, with no restocking fee...

Now just to figure out what to do with my 52xbr4.....lol

I currently can't use 3d due to my Sony ES AVR not having that function....So just gonna do regular for now until I can upgrade the AVR....The same HDMI cable that I'm currently using should work right?

Man, I went into Best Buy with my woman to get an iPad 3...They didn't have the one I wanted, and although I have an iPad already I was gonna get the new one and instead ended up getting the 65 929 even though I have a perfectly functioning 52xbr4....hahaha....It's a sickness!...lol....but 65 inches is sweet!..and pretty much the size I wanted when I bought the xbr4 except at the time Sony was selling the 70 inch for $32,000...lmao

And IMRIZZO if you could PM me your settings it would be greatly appreciated.

Well, I got my TV about a week ago. Delivery guy helped me attach the stand to the TV and then we set it in the center of my entertainment area. I used the TV after work each night for the entire week and there were no problems. Then today I turned it on and there appears to be a tiny 1\\16th of an inch crack at the top, center of the screen. The little crack appears to be behind the pixels. The outside surface of the screen is not scratched or damaged in any way.

I watched a movie last night and the problem was not there. I turned the TV off with the remote and the next day when I turned it on the crack had appeared. I guess over night after I turned the TV off it must have popped. The little crack is causeing light to be bent on the pixels that surround it. I have a little black dot on the screen at all times. Very annoying. Guess I am going to have to pay another hundred for shipping and wait another week to get a new one. Totally sucks but I guess this stuff happens. Can't figure out why it would have sat for a week without issue and then just suddenly cracked while it was sitting there turned off.

Picture quality is very nice though. I enjoyed the TV all week without issue and it looks great. A big improvement over my 40 inch Sony XBR 4. Minor blooming is the only issue I have noticed and I have only really noticed it when the credits roll or if my blu ray player's screen saver is displayed. Blooming goes from minor to terrible at a viewing angle greater than 30 though. Pretty much what I expected. I do think the blooming is slightly more noticable than my older TV but the screen is 15 inches larger than my last so I guess it's to be expected. Hopefully my replacement model will work out for me. Everything else about the picture is great. It is the best and most clear, sharp picture I have ever seen before. Hope I can get this sorted out without to much issue.

A way to get around having to upgrade your receiver, is to buy a 3D blu-ray player that has two hdmi out's. One hdmi will go the tv for the 3d picture and the other hdmi will go to the receiver for sound.

1. If your receiver does not output Dolby TureHD or DTS-HD Master Audio, which is used with most blu-rays, then you simply will not get that. However you will get what ever digital sound your av reciever outputs.

2. Or just upgrade your av receiver.

3. You'll need 3.1 or higher hdmi cables, now called high speed hdmi. If you need new ones, try monoprice.com, you'll find they are a sponsor up above. You can buy a high speed 10' cable for $5.00

Hey bekind, thanks for the reply...Yeh, I'm currently using a PS3 for bluray...I'll just have to upgrade the AVR at some point...

So, if I don't use 3D right now do I still need the new cable? Or is that just for going 3D?

Your welcome!
High speed handles 3d and arc (audio return channel). Being your not watching 3d, and your AVR is outputting dd 5.1 or DTS you should be find now.

When ready to buy a new avr, make sure it handles arc and 3d.

Just in case this comes up, the netflix app in the XBR65HX929 does NOT output dd thru arc or fiber optic, only stereo signal. Don't know why sony did not install the newer netflix app on the tv. whatsupwiththat sony!

I don't know if this helps at all. I connected my computer via hdmi so I could watch Hulu. I noticed a glitch every couple of minutes. It looks like one of the video lines is "off", like it didn't translate correctly. It then propagates down the screen and disappears. This didn't happen with my XBR2 (SXRD). Is that anything like what you are experiencing? I don't have a solution. My hx929 is near perfect otherwise.

Ah cool..thanks man..For now I'm ready to rock this set in 2D! Looking at the 55's and 65's in the store it was blowing my xbr4 away! And from listening to all the posts here it seems that once you get the set home and set it up it blows away what is seen in the stores. Seems all the stores use vivid.

So do any of my ps3 settings need to be tweaked for this set?

So, I've had my XBR55HX929 for a few months now. I'm really enjoying it so far. I use it for Blu-ray and video games. Any shows that we watch are over the air or Netflix. I have a November 2011 build date and I do not see any visible problems. Have not seen any deranged screen folding issues, no dirty screen effects or magical dancing leprechauns stuck behind the gorilla glass. The only artifact I really notice is the blooming when there is white on a dark black background. For example, loading screens in Skyrim. It really is not to the extent where it sends me into a rage and I curse the TV for it. It is more or less, "Hey, that spot is kinda bright, oh look the game is loaded, let's move on with OH GOSH A SNOW TROLL. RUN."

I purchased the set through Cleveland Plasma for a great price and Chris was kind enough to throw in one of the 3D kits as a military bonus for me. I've been drooling over this set and lurking in this thread since...last August while I was stuck in Afghanistan. Had to pick it up when I got home before I lost wife approval!

As of right now, I'm using edtorius's settings and they are pretty good. I would like to take these legendary IMRIZZO settings for a spin to see how much better I can make this set look.

I'm still pretty new to this home theater thing, but if anyone has any questions or is on the fence, I wouldn't mind throwing my opinion out there.