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post #13501 of 15181
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Originally Posted by mcbiidermen View Post

Those are impressive shots, making me want to still consider going with a 929. You seem to be more than happy with the quality from gaming on the 929, what are your impressions of it on Blu-ray quality and also normal viewing (TV)?

Thanks.

Blu-ray is awesome as well. Quality is superb, better than my last full array Sammy. I started watching the entire Battlestar Galactica (new) series on BD on my Samsung LN-T4681F and then finished the last season on my 929, the difference in quality was staggering.

My main uses of the 929 are as my primary PC monitor and for gaming (PC, 360, PS3, Wii, etc).

I don't watch TV (cable box, etc) at all on this set, but do watch a lot of streamed content via the PC (Netflix, Youtube, etc) and the quality there is excellent as well.

I am extremely satisfied with this set and for gaming I've never played on better.
post #13502 of 15181
I'm sure it will support the panel based on it's specs But I'm not sure if you want to mount it that close for heat dispersion reasons. If you read Sony's recommendation they suggest minimum clearance for air circulation reasons.

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Originally Posted by FraG_AU View Post

Well my long journey of displays has led me to the Sony 925 (AU version of the 929). Now my old sour point is that my first set has a dead pixel - replacement should be here within days ...

I must say though that I am very impressed with this TV, I had a Samsung D7000 55" a couple years ago and I couldnt stand it because of the soap opera effect, poor panning, and generally issues which I thought were just LCD tech related...

The 925/929 certainly puts that at rest, it performs as good if not better than my 65" VT30 plasma, motion is fantastic without the plasma ghosting..

So far only dissapointment is the viewing angle but i knew that would be tha case.

Now a question to all the owners, I really want to wall mount this ASAP, I am wondering if anyone has used this type of wall mount

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/LED-LCD-T...item231c22d15d

^^ I am thinking of using this simply for how close I can get it to the wall.. The sony one isn't so close and its stupid expensive here in Australia.

Thanks in advance!
post #13503 of 15181
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Originally Posted by Datacide View Post

I have my PC hooked up on my 55" 929...gaming is out of this world. I played Battlefield 3 in 3D and it was amazing. Just finished Rage and now playing Crysis Warhead...really just doesn't get any better in my opinion.

(sorry, I'm neither a photographer nor do I know any more about photos than point and shoot)


Yeah, skyrim is beautiful on a 65 too,
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post #13504 of 15181
Will post images from the new MIB II Bluray (great transfer) later, excellent PQ via OppO 93
post #13505 of 15181
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Originally Posted by Datacide View Post

Blu-ray is awesome as well. Quality is superb, better than my last full array Sammy. I started watching the entire Battlestar Galactica (new) series on BD on my Samsung LN-T4681F and then finished the last season on my 929, the difference in quality was staggering.

My main uses of the 929 are as my primary PC monitor and for gaming (PC, 360, PS3, Wii, etc).

I don't watch TV (cable box, etc) at all on this set, but do watch a lot of streamed content via the PC (Netflix, Youtube, etc) and the quality there is excellent as well.

I am extremely satisfied with this set and for gaming I've never played on better.

Thank you for your opinion.

Going to be a hard decision for me, right now I am going back and forth between getting a 929 or a vt50 (they just reviewed the vt50 on avforums and gave it reference status).
post #13506 of 15181
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Originally Posted by abeslu View Post

Yeah, skyrim is beautiful on a 65 too,

....drools... damn. That is quite a looker.

Care to comment on quality of 3D. how bad is ghosting / crosstalk? minimal or very noticeable?

I wouldn't be able to afford the 65", If I did go with the 929 it would be the 55".
post #13507 of 15181
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Originally Posted by mcbiidermen View Post

Thank you for your opinion.

Going to be a hard decision for me, right now I am going back and forth between getting a 929 or a vt50 (they just reviewed the vt50 on avforums and gave it reference status).

I'll generally give the nod to plasma for film based content, they handle motion better and they have wonderful black levels.

Apart from the power consumption and buzzing that I dislike on most plasmas, I just have never gamed on one I really liked. LCD just has that pixel crispness that makes it work wonderfully as a PC monitor.

Panasonic VT30 has better 3D than the 929 (in my opinion, as is all of this) so I assume the VT50 will have even better, if that is a must for you. I have a buddy that has a VT30.

For me it really was a no brainer. I was extremely happy with the performance and visuals of my last full array set and the 929 offered so much more. With the better visuals for a PC monitor and less power consumption, it was a pretty easy pick for me. However, my friend went with the VT30 because he is not really a gamer and more of a film buff.
post #13508 of 15181
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

I'm sure it will support the panel based on it's specs But I'm not sure if you want to mount it that close for heat dispersion reasons. If you read Sony's recommendation they suggest minimum clearance for air circulation reasons.

Thanks, I was comparing this to the actual sony one they do which is practically the same (SU WH500 i think its called). But $270 vs $50 ...

I just can't justify $270 for a run of the mill wall mount when I can grab something for 1/3 or less and be just as good. I'll read some more of the manual but never thought of the heat side (not being plasma didnt think it would be an issue).

Must say though, I am enjoying this set more and more - really aside from the clouding which is minimal and obvious side effect of the tech I am in love with an LCD - I couldn't stand them before this and I have tried some high end ones.. Might have to watch Avatar this weekend and see how it performs..

Oh and as for games, wow I am actually very impressed - not only did the TV detect that I had PS3 plugged in but the remote controls the PS3 which is awesome (not sure its if its through HDMI or through blutooth) - but the couple games I tried were simply fantastic and i couldnt preceive any input lag. As good if not better than my 65" VT30 panny!
post #13509 of 15181
Has anyone seen the 65hx929 do something where right after you turn it on you don't get the volume bar when you raise and lower volume and then the tv resets itself. It actually turns itself off and then back on.

If it turns on and the volume graphic is there when you raise and lower volume it's okay.

This is driving me nuts and its on the latest software.

Last night i turned it on and raised volume which you can here the volume raise but you dont see the volume bar and after a few seconds it reset. After the reset same thing and then after that one the bar was there and it was fine ?

Is this a known problem ?

Thanks
post #13510 of 15181
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Originally Posted by VGI View Post

Has anyone seen the 65hx929 do something where right after you turn it on you don't get the volume bar when you raise and lower volume and then the tv resets itself. It actually turns itself off and then back on.

If it turns on and the volume graphic is there when you raise and lower volume it's okay.

This is driving me nuts and its on the latest software.

Last night i turned it on and raised volume which you can here the volume raise but you dont see the volume bar and after a few seconds it reset. After the reset same thing and then after that one the bar was there and it was fine ?

Is this a known problem ?

Thanks

I have similar problem with my 55HX929 with the latest firmware. The problem existed since I got my TV last November with previous versions of the firmware. If I press any button in the remote with a minute or so (such as changing channel or the Menu button) after the TV first powers up, sometimes it will show a message saying that the TV is powering up and I need to wait. Sometimes, the TV will not respond to the remote command and it will reboot. This issue is intermittent and seems to happen more often recently. I mentioned this to Sony Support when I called and emailed them about the color tint and DSE problem. They pretty much just brushed it off as a non-issue.
post #13511 of 15181
I just sent Kevin K at Sony Cares a brief email along with 2 photos , from two different 929 XBR 55" models , each exhibiting the same top right corner issues. Sony wanted pics to evaluate what the issue was so they could better address the situation. Best Buy is delivering another set tomorrow to me, hopefully this set will not have any issues... attached are two photos #1 top photo Conan is from late December 2011 and the # 2 is from late April 2012( current set)



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post #13512 of 15181
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Originally Posted by wsxcde View Post

I have similar problem with my 55HX929 with the latest firmware. The problem existed since I got my TV last November with previous versions of the firmware. I mentioned this to Sony Support when I called and emailed them about the color tint and DSE problem. They pretty much just brushed it off as a non-issue.

My set does this as well. It does appear to be working as designed. Hardly a problem for most, in my opinion.
post #13513 of 15181
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Originally Posted by Datacide View Post

I'll generally give the nod to plasma for film based content, they handle motion better and they have wonderful black levels.

Apart from the power consumption and buzzing that I dislike on most plasmas, I just have never gamed on one I really liked. LCD just has that pixel crispness that makes it work wonderfully as a PC monitor.

Panasonic VT30 has better 3D than the 929 (in my opinion, as is all of this) so I assume the VT50 will have even better, if that is a must for you. I have a buddy that has a VT30.

For me it really was a no brainer. I was extremely happy with the performance and visuals of my last full array set and the 929 offered so much more. With the better visuals for a PC monitor and less power consumption, it was a pretty easy pick for me. However, my friend went with the VT30 because he is not really a gamer and more of a film buff.

Thanks for your input, and for being thorough.

It's honestly a very hard choice for me because I tend to do a lot of both (games / movies). Although the older I get, only certain games really hit me and make me play non-stop.

I probably watch more movies on average now. But, when a game like Dark Souls comes out - that's all I do. I played Dark Souls for 3 months straight, couldn't stop playing.

I was hoping to see a good performance for Panasonic's new line of edge lit LED's (the DT50 and WT50). Early reviews suggest decent overall performance, with better than average 3D quality - but horrible ms for gaming. I believe I read over 50ms on the DT50. That's inexcusable.

At the moment I am leaning towards the VT50 55", but the decision still isn't final. I don't want to even tell you how much of my time making this choice is taking up.
post #13514 of 15181
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Originally Posted by mcbiidermen View Post

....drools... damn. That is quite a looker.

Care to comment on quality of 3D. how bad is ghosting / crosstalk? minimal or very noticeable?

I wouldn't be able to afford the 65", If I did go with the 929 it would be the 55".

Hi, I don´t like 3D, so maybe sounds stupid but my pair of lenses are still unopened, I bought this tv because I liked its 2D picture quality more than others, fortunately mine doesn't have too much banding, I had the 55" too, but I think It blooms too much for my taste.
post #13515 of 15181
Men in Black II Bluray

















post #13516 of 15181
Hey Guys,

I just purchased the 55HX929 and love the picture after a few setting tweaks with the help of IMRIZZO.

There is only one problem that I have not been able to figure out yet.

I am getting a pixelated horizontal bar (about 1/4" thick) that runs almost the entire width on the top of the screen which has me searching for a fix. This bar does not show up on all the channels (not showing on HBO, Showtime, CinMax). I am seeing it show up on some channels such as OXGN and TCM.

I have called Sony's customer service to see if they may have some answers. Sony is currently looking into the problem but they did mention that it could be a problem with Direct TV.

The one Direct TV setting that the bar is not visible is the "crop format". The "original format", "stretch format", and "pillar format" all show the bar.
I did hook up another TV using the same HDMI connection and there was no horizontal bar showing up.

Has anyone come across something like this? Could this be a scanning problem with the display or does this sound like something I should be calling Direct TV about?

Thanks for any suggestions.
post #13517 of 15181
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

Men in Black II Bluray

Very nice! Amazing photos as always!
post #13518 of 15181
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Originally Posted by rincon View Post

Has anyone come across something like this? Could this be a scanning problem with the display or does this sound like something I should be calling Direct TV about?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Likely digital artifacts in what is the VBI in NTSC signals; I get the same on many channels from a DISH Network box.

You'll need to increase the vertical size of the picture or positioning slightly.

On many sets this is hidden by overscan.
post #13519 of 15181
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Originally Posted by kucharsk View Post

Likely digital artifacts in what is the VBI in NTSC signals; I get the same on many channels from a DISH Network box.

You'll need to increase the vertical size of the picture or positioning slightly.

On many sets this is hidden by overscan.

I concur. I get the same artifacts in the same place on those two DirecTV channels on an XBR8 and a Panny VT30. My suggestion: restrict your DirecTV viewing to HD channels. The SD channels look awful on an HDTV.
post #13520 of 15181
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Originally Posted by Datacide View Post

Very nice! Amazing photos as always!

Thanks, amazing TV.
post #13521 of 15181
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Originally Posted by kucharsk View Post

Likely digital artifacts in what is the VBI in NTSC signals; I get the same on many channels from a DISH Network box.

You'll need to increase the vertical size of the picture or positioning slightly.

On many sets this is hidden by overscan.

I am wondering if an overscan adjustment can be made from within the service menu. If an adjustment can be made without sacrificing the picture of the other channels that would seem to be ideal.

I can live with the bar on those channels but if there is something that I can try, such as adjusting the overscan, I would like to make those channels a bit better to view.
post #13522 of 15181
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Originally Posted by rincon View Post

I am wondering if an overscan adjustment can be made from within the service menu. If an adjustment can be made without sacrificing the picture of the other channels that would seem to be ideal.

I can live with the bar on those channels but if there is something that I can try, such as adjusting the overscan, I would like to make those channels a bit better to view.

There is, on the Display menu under SCREENS the last option is screen size this allows you to make picture adjustments to vertical sizing.
post #13523 of 15181
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

There is, on the Display menu under SCREENS the last option is screen size this allows you to make picture adjustments to vertical sizing.

Thanks IMRIZZO,

The bar no longer shows up on those channels when changing the setting from "full pixel" to normal or -1. Problem solved.
post #13524 of 15181
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Originally Posted by mcbiidermen View Post

Thanks for your input, and for being thorough.

It's honestly a very hard choice for me because I tend to do a lot of both (games / movies). Although the older I get, only certain games really hit me and make me play non-stop.

I probably watch more movies on average now. But, when a game like Dark Souls comes out - that's all I do. I played Dark Souls for 3 months straight, couldn't stop playing.

I was hoping to see a good performance for Panasonic's new line of edge lit LED's (the DT50 and WT50). Early reviews suggest decent overall performance, with better than average 3D quality - but horrible ms for gaming. I believe I read over 50ms on the DT50. That's inexcusable.

At the moment I am leaning towards the VT50 55", but the decision still isn't final. I don't want to even tell you how much of my time making this choice is taking up.

I have just come to the 55" Sony after owning the 65VT30.

These are the advantages of the Sony -
Super sharp pics, perfect for playing static images, obviously 0 image retention and ZERO ghosting..

The VT30 at least had an issue where you would get the "afterimage" in dark scenes (I tried many sources, many calibrated settings).. Just the nature of the plasma.

I had owned the first gen Samsung 3d LED LCD and hated it because it looked artificial, had very poor uniformity being edge lit and now the Sony has taken that all away.

If I was chosing honestly between the 55" of the Sony vs 55" VT30 I would chose the Sony and I have loved plasmas for a long time.

One negative I have with the Sony at the moment and it really is very minor is the Clouding you get with the rear dimming panels.. but the black level is better I think than it was on the VT30.

As for 3d, aside from watching some content here and there it wasn;t a main feature though I will admit it was a little better than the LCD but not by much. I am still only playing around with the settings on the Sony so will probably even get it looking better but I am super happy with it. It also looks better physically, has no buzz, and if you sit closer you can't see the pixel dithering as you did on the plasma.

The only other down side to the Sony is the viewing angles.. The Plasma kicks its and any other LCD's ass in this regard.

As for fast moving scenes, and I am picky about this I have not noticed anything at all, there are slight uniformity issues when watching sports (say ice hockey or football) where you will get that slight clouding issue but it is hardly noticable and I prefer that to the afterimages.smudging on the plasma and best of all there is no line bleed so when you actually do any 2d stuff say hook up your HTPC and use it for a monitor is really makes the plasma look silly.

But yeah its the first LCD i have been happy with and I have owned a lot in the last 2 years..

Samsung 55 C7000 3d LED
Samsung 63" C8000 Plasma
Samsung 64" D8000 Plasma
Panasonic 65" VT30A Plasma

and now the Sony.

Out of the Plasma the panasonic won hands down for me, esp with the issues i had playing 24hz on the Samsungs, but the Sony pretty much negates all the issues I had with the Samsung 55".

As far as smart TV features go, the US model will be diff to AU model, however I have never bothered to use it.. nice bonus to have the Skype Camera though with the Sony and also 2 sets of 3d glasses

Anyway its a tough choice but if you do use it as a monitor def don't discount the sony.

Just be sure to watch the Panny in dark scenes with brightly lit people to see what I mean with the after images.
post #13525 of 15181
I guess now that prices have changed and there's no more Sony bargains the interest in 929 has subsided. I know all those who bought in before the price rise are happy they moved on it when they did.
post #13526 of 15181
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

I guess now that prices have changed and there's no more Sony bargains the interest in 929 has subsided. I know all those who bought in before the price rise are happy they moved on it when they did.

There are always FW updates.
post #13527 of 15181
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

I guess now that prices have changed and there's no more Sony bargains the interest in 929 has subsided. I know all those who bought in before the price rise are happy they moved on it when they did.

Yep, the party's over. At the $3500 price point (the 55" that I think most people want), the decision is certainly less clear, and is muddied between saving up for the Elite, or saving at least a grand and getting a set that's almost as good (in the eyes of the average consumer) for $1500-$2500, or getting the Sony 55HX929 after all.
post #13528 of 15181
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

I guess now that prices have changed and there's no more Sony bargains the interest in 929 has subsided. I know all those who bought in before the price rise are happy they moved on it when they did.

The bright side is that our HX929s are worth more for resell!!!!
post #13529 of 15181
Hi IMRIZZO,

Could I have a copy of your settings for this wonderful TV please?
post #13530 of 15181
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Originally Posted by stimpy88 View Post

Hi IMRIZZO,

Could I have a copy of your settings for this wonderful TV please?

Check your PM
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