Official Sony HX929 Owner's thread (46HX929, 55HX929, 65HX929) No Price Talk - Page 452

That's exactly where I am. I'm looking at the 55HX929 (I've always liked Sony) and the 60" Elite, Or perhaps save some $$ and get something else like the VT50. I don't buy AV gear often, when I do I try to get the best that I can (though the budget isn't unlimited).

Has the hx925/929 gone up in price? We have it here in Costco Australia for $2899.

Was considering this tv for a while, but if there is going to be a price rise, that might seal the deal

Currently 55" at Amazon.com 3498. USD

That's really odd cos the rrp here is 3599, but Costco as usual have it for 2899.

That's including gst too (so no taxes on top).

Might go get one tonight

Did you take the plunge ?

Yeah, I did. I asked the guy at Costco how many 3D Glasses it had, and he gave me a spare pair cos he thought it only came with one (now I have 3)

I haven't done any calibration/config, but even out of the box it looks insane compared to my old 50" Samsung B550 Plasma.

Blacks are super, I can see the Haloing but it doesn't bother me.

46" at JR is reasonably priced through 6/2/12. Mr. Rizzo, could you please share your setting with me as well?
Thanks,

Anyone come up with any info on this?

Occasionally, when I turn on the tv (55hx820), after about 10-30 seconds, my tv will reset. Essentially go black, led goes red and then picture comes back on after a few seconds and led is green. Screen has always come back on within about 20-30 seconds. I don't notice any red light blink codes but it doesn't happen all the time and it happens too quick for me to notice anything with the LED. So, I went into the diag screen and noticed that I have 13 after the '103 HOST_WDT' item.

Googling finds very little. Best I could find was it was some sort of watchdog, but couldn't really find a cause (or solution) for it.

Any thoughts? I'm not using wireless, I'm wired through a unmanaged 8 port switch.

Here is the link I found that talked about it being a watchdog:
http://www.agoraquest.com/viewtopic....39792&forum=34

Looking for a little help and advice. I am replacing my 55" SXRD that had the optical block go out. I am being offered by sony the 55XBRHX929 just under $2K. I am set to jump on this but I know at that price I could also opt for the Panny 60ST50. I am mostly into watching sports, mainly football and hockey, some gaming, and the kids would watch movies and like the 3d. Any advice pros and cons is welcome as I was set to jump on the panny until sony gave me this offer and now I am really leaning on jumping on it if the Sony is as good as it looks. (I know they look nice but over time they can develop issues, like I know the Panny users are complaining about watching hockey and line blocking in the upper left quadrants.)

Thanks everyone who replies and puts in their 2 cents

Personal opinion, I would select the Sony over the Panny for PQ and the Blacks. The only con would be the off-axis viewing especially for 3D use, MPO the Sony has a better picture with no chance of BI so no worry when gaming.

Check back through the thread, I've posted many pictures here.

IMRIZZO,

Thanks for reply. The only question I have is a family of 5 on a couch and recliner watching a movie the two at the far corners, how bad is the PQ for them? Is it where 2-3 closest to dead center have a great experience and the others are pretty bad or is the sides decent just not great?

That would be better answered by someone that uses the 3D features I've only watched on Avatar disc on it, not a big 3D fan, sorry.

Pictures are usually posted as necessary; we're not 17-year-old gold-necklace-wearing narcissistic braggarts here, thumping away with the 'woofer to turn heads. Most of us anyway.

Of course a lot will depend on how far back you are from the set. I have a pretty small home theatre room and a 3 seat couch is in front of my 55", probably about 5-6 feet in front. So the ends of the couch are pretty off-angle and the 3D works well.

I'm not really taken with the 3D content for movies anyhow, so milage will vary. Certainly the 3D on this set isn't that standout 3D you get in theaters, so I'd temper expectations accordingly. Other than PSN games, the 3D for full retail PS3 games come at the cost of resolution, aliasing, framerate, etc...really not worth it. 3D from my PC is awesome, but you are limited to 720p if you want anything more than 24fps because of the limitations of 3D.

Really, 3D was (and continues to be) the last reason for me to get this set. I don't think 3D for the home market is fully realized yet.

-sent from iPhone.

The best vehicle for 3D is animation

Yeah, I have a couple 3D animated movies. Puss in Boots and Tron Legacy (which is some parts 3D animation and parts real footage). Neither of those really impressed me much for the 3D. Sure, they look good for home, some of the best I've seen especially on LCD...but they really just don't jump out of the screen like you'd hope and dream.

Funny thing is I think a LOT of this is to do with the content itself. There is a Pirates of the Caribbean (4?) trailer in 3D on Tron Legacy. There is a small scene with a sword coming through a door that really does stick out more than anything I've seen in a movie yet...so I certainly lay some of the blame on the content. I haven't bought Avatar in 3D yet, so maybe that will make some differences.

Don't get me wrong though, I'd rather watch in 3D than 2D. Particle effects alone are worth the price of admission and there is something to the added depth that really adds to the movies. Also, I think the 3D works pretty cleanly on the 929. I notice very little crosstalk and I've been impressed with the glasses and the TV combined.

Speaking of 3d. Which glasses work best with the set. Seems like people have different opinions on the xpand 104 v monster max 3d v. Sony titanium. Most of those discussions were using different displays. Anyone have experience with any of these on the hx929? Thanks for the help.

I am wondering when the new 3d glasses are going to hit? They got good reviews I believe and looked a lot better than the 2nd gen glasses. I just hope they do away with the silly "must have your head truly vertical" requirement. I see the titanium are showing up - I hope that isn't the only option at 100 a pop that just gets silly. I am hoping they will work on smaller heads. Plastic suits my budget just fine and should be light enough .

I have an HX850 and since they are almost the same TV, can someone please share and summarize some calibration tips? Specifically, how best to use XReality Pro, Motionflow, etc? I apologize for being lazy but the thread is 400 pages long

Usually I turn all that stuff off, but I have noticed XReality really adds a nice punch to the picture, and Motionflow works much better than it did on my EX720. I still hate Cinemotion. I also still turn off all the bells and whistles under Advanced Settings, except for Dynamic LED which works really well (and I don't think the 929 has). Also, do you sue Full Pixel or Normal screen size? Again, the processor in this TV is so good I wonder what would be better. Thanks for any tips you can give me!

Hi bitterkevin,

I suggest you adjust to taste. You already seem comfortable with that route, and it's the one I've taken to some extent as well, starting with the cnet calibrated settings as a baseline. I'm not sure if such settings are available for the HX850 yet, though.

I do not like watching a slideshow -- I have very time-resolution sensitive eyes so 24 & 30 frame per second sources appear like a slideshow to me. In my case I have no choice but to tolerate Motionflow. At Standard, I don't find it too offensive, though I wish I could tweak it down a bit further, that's not feasible so I just leave it at Standard/Auto1, as this suits my eyes.

LED Dynamic Control is required for the local dimming in both of our sets. Leave it at Standard.

Reality Creation (more sharpening than anything else) Auto is decent with really soft sources, e.g. some Netflix, some DVDs, etc. I would enjoy using it a bit more here and there, but I find it easier/better quality to use the sharpening & noise reduction integrated into my Oppo BDP-93 for BD/DVD/video files. I have a Roku 2 XS for my Netflix/HBOGo/and general streaming needs. For those sources, I sometimes play around with Reality Creation. You might try using your Cinema Scene as your more authentic, do-no-harm Scene, and General as your more aggressive, make it look prettier, screw what the directed intended Scene. This would ease switching back and forth easier. Depending on if you sit close to your display, your taste in sharpening will vary. Sit close, you hate it. Sit far away and have to squint at the screen to see anything, then you'll love sharpening.

I think in the Screen settings area, my settings are something like Off/etc/Full Pixel. Full pixel I'm sure of.

SBM on, smooth gradation low, auto light limiter can be useful now & then. The rest of the stuff is mostly turned off, except occasionally I have a use for dynamic contrast:low & black crush: low. One of those taste things.

Good luck.

Per Sony manual the TV 3D signal is transmitting at 120° wide angle and 3-20 ft. distance from the TV.

Hugo has the best 3D effect that I've seen so far for a non-animated 3D movie but I haven't seen 3D Avatar yet so I dunno. I wish they would end the exclusivity soon!

Me and you both, however the price for the movie on ebay has came down a lot

Wait until you get the 929 calibrated. Its insane. Just had Jeff Meier over to calibrate mine last week. I can't believe how great it looks now. Thought it was already amazing before calibration (playing around with various settings that the nice folks here were sharing). After proper calibration I've come to learn how truly special the 929 can be.

Thanks CHS4000, will do. I was playing Xbox yesterday with Motionflow Clear, it was pretty cool, but I still think Standard is better. I like using XReality too. On the Xbox dashboard, there are these little boxes for everything (like Windows 7 and Windows phone), and when the Avengers trailer was playing in the little box, it was much clearer and sharper using XReality. Even though My Xbox is outputting 1080p, it looks fuzzy without Xreality. Like you, I usually prefer to let the input device do the work, but for some reason I am liking the extra punch that XReality adds.

I've had the 55" HX929 since August and it doubles as my PC monitor. As a result, the TV is used for all of my gaming, be it PC or console.

Truthfully, I find the performance for gaming somewhat lacking. Most of the scene select options suffer from terrible lag, and while the "gaming" option substantially reduces lag, it also greatly reduces the effectiveness of the local dimming to the point where it isn't much better than any other LCD I've used. Under lighted conditions you probably won't notice, but in the dark it's very obvious.

Overall, I'm satisfied with the TV (after going through 4 sets before getting one that I felt was acceptable), but with the release of the VT50, I'd definitely go plasma if I could do it all over again. The HX929 performs remarkably well when given ideal material, but I do find myself struggling with some of its limitations:

1.) Blooming is very noticeable with abrupt light/dark transitions.
2.) Substantial lag for gaming in most scene select options.
3.) Reduced local dimming effectiveness in gaming scene select option.
4.) Limited options for smoothing motion. I'd like to be able to strobe the backlight without using frame interpolation but the two are tied together.
5.) The TV is overwhelmingly bright when used as a monitor in the dark, even with the backlight reduced to minimum.

Obviously, all TVs have their own set of compromises you'll need to consider. Best of luck in making a decision if you haven't already.

I don't notice this at all. There is some blooming overall under some circumstances, which is the nature of full array sets, but there isn't any increase in blooming with scene transitions for me.



Game mode is definitely needed. Or at least the settings need to be optimized for SPEED.



This is pretty marginal and not noticeable in-game at all for me, only when a full black screen is present. I play LOADS of very dark games and nothing has come up as an issue at all.


I am not sure if you are talking games here or not. Doesn't really matter, the motion on this LCD blows away anything I've used previously. I'll give a nod to plasma for movies in regards to motion, but plasmas definitely have other issues. As for games, I am playing 1080p/60Hz and 60fps (v-sync enabled) and I've NEVER played on a better TV for games.



Yeah, I'm not sure what your settings are, but I am using backlight of 4, picture 85/brightness 48 and it isn't too bright for me. I am using the set as my primary monitor as well in a pitch black room. My walls and ceiling are painted black and the carpet is black/grey and there are no windows...doesn't get darker than in here. I didn't even adjust my video card brightness settings, but that would be an option too I suppose if you find it too bright. I find brightness settings set too low really affect HDR lighting and other lighting effects in game.




Yeah, we definitely have different experiences...I've never been a happier gamer, period. Currently playing Arkham City on PC with DX11, every setting on the NVIDIA controls maxed, every setting in game maxed and it looks AMAZING. Simply stunning looking and performance from the TV is exceptional. It is a pretty dark game and there is no blooming or any other issues to speak of.

Sorry, crappy camera...weird field effect are from the camera, not in-game.

Hi!

Im gonna keep this short, ive looked at LG/Samsung/Panasonic etc without being much impressed for a few months now, but the well received HX850 really got my attention. Now my question is, should i go for a HX855 or HX920? The price diff is about $500. I value screen uniformity and inky blacks over gimmicky things like smart functions etc. Is the older 920 worth an extra $5-600 over the 855?

Theres also a HX923 which is strangely ~$1000 more than the 920, but i dont know the diff between the two, can anyone enlighten me on this?

Any advise is much appreciated!

Edgelit VS Full array .....