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post #14581 of 15169
9/21/12 at 10:52am
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HD~OLOGIST with a liberal arts degree?
That's why there are such features like IGNORE LIST
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post #14582 of 15169
9/21/12 at 11:09am
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

Until someone owns one and verifies that, that is the case, I will have to rely on that info. I don't take everything as a negative.

Televisions of the same base model have differing calibration requirements; add the environmental influences of position and lighting + the viewers eyes and you have a stronger case that "one size (settings) doesn't fit all".
Now add to that a model/generation change with improvements and you want people to believe some store flunky says your old settings will match the new tech?
Come on...
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post #14583 of 15169
9/21/12 at 11:15am
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Originally Posted by amatot View Post

Televisions of the same base model have differing calibration requirements; add the environmental influences of position and lighting + the viewers eyes and you have a stronger case that "one size (settings) doesn't fit all".
Now add to that a model/generation change with improvements and you want people to believe some store flunky says your old settings will match the new tech?
Come on...

Obviously, he wants a great picture. So he starts with his old settings (which are going to be better than the out-of-the-box "store blast" settings in any case) and if they need modification, do you really think he's not going to change anything?

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I saw the 84" at the Sony showroom and from a color, black level, brightness, contrast standpoint, the picture looked just like my HX929 at home. I have no idea what settings were being used, but I have to think they were very close to mine. So it's very possible that "old" settings will work on a new set.
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post #14584 of 15169
9/21/12 at 11:48am
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Obviously, he wants a great picture. So he starts with his old settings (which are going to be better than the out-of-the-box "store blast" settings in any case) and if they need modification, do you really think he's not going to change anything?
As I mentioned in an earlier post, I saw the 84" at the Sony showroom and from a color, black level, brightness, contrast standpoint, the picture looked just like my HX929 at home. I have no idea what settings were being used, but I have to think they were very close to mine. So it's very possible that "old" settings will work on a new set.

"...he explained the same setting will provide the same picture qualities..."

I am quite sure he would change the settings; that's my point.

same =/= same
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post #14585 of 15169
9/22/12 at 5:41am
You might get an acceptable result when copying settings from 929 to 950 but result will not be accurate.
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post #14586 of 15169
9/22/12 at 3:38pm
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Originally Posted by amatot View Post

The 950, with - what is it, 90 more zones - and whatever processor enhancements were injected to improve performance - will output the same results from the 929 settings?
And you believe it?
Well then. That just killed all credibility...

It appears that the Sony rep really wasn't bs'ing. The guys over on the 950 thread are coming up with the same amount of zones on the 950 that are in the 929. Really terrible news if you ask me, as Sony appears satisfied with the product they put out last year and doesn't think they need to make any improvements. Of, course this is not completely confirmed but it looks like it maybe accurate
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post #14587 of 15169
9/22/12 at 4:13pm
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It appears that the Sony rep really wasn't bs'ing. The guys over on the 950 thread are coming up with the same amount of zones on the 950 that are in the 929. Really terrible news if you ask me, as Sony appears satisfied with the product they put out last year and doesn't think they need to make any improvements. Of, course this is not completely confirmed but it looks like it maybe accurate

So the HX950 is basically a rebadged HX929.
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post #14588 of 15169
9/22/12 at 5:10pm
The rep said everything except that it was a re-badged 929's, some cosmetic difference (rounded corners,stand and apps etc) That may be why it is priced the same as the 929's ?? I guess we'll have to wait and see what the outcome is, I hope for the sake of those buying them that there is more to them.felex.gif
Edited by IMRIZZO - 9/23/12 at 7:23am
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post #14589 of 15169
9/23/12 at 10:50am
I've been using IMRizzo's settings for the TV (thank you for that!), I liked them over a few other calibration settings I picked up, however for TV viewing I put on Reality Creation to MANUAL with resolution on max and noise reduction on minimum. To me everything looks sharper however I do notice some lag issues with motion sometimes. Is there a particular issue with Reality Creation MANUAL setting?

Other than that everything I watch is amazing and looks like a bluray! Now my family always asks if something is live or not because they can't tell.

Note: One other thing is that I do get crushed blacks (meaning that although scenes look really nice if it is not in daylight then you lose a bit of detail in dark clothes or hair for example).
Edited by dgwow - 9/23/12 at 10:57am
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post #14590 of 15169
9/23/12 at 12:48pm
New 950 owners are reporting "No increase in zones" same count as the 929 panels. As reported in the 950 Owners thread.
Has Sony simply re-badged he 929 models ??
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post #14591 of 15169
9/23/12 at 12:58pm
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Originally Posted by dgwow View Post

I've been using IMRizzo's settings for the TV (thank you for that!), I liked them over a few other calibration settings I picked up, however for TV viewing I put on Reality Creation to MANUAL with resolution on max and noise reduction on minimum. To me everything looks sharper however I do notice some lag issues with motion sometimes. Is there a particular issue with Reality Creation MANUAL setting?
Other than that everything I watch is amazing and looks like a bluray! Now my family always asks if something is live or not because they can't tell.
Note: One other thing is that I do get crushed blacks (meaning that although scenes look really nice if it is not in daylight then you lose a bit of detail in dark clothes or hair for example).

That doesn't create sharpening halos?
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post #14592 of 15169
9/23/12 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

New 950 owners are reporting "No increase in zones" same count as the 929 panels. As reported in the 950 Owners thread.
Has Sony simply re-badged he 929 models ??

Don't forget the God-awful stand, haha.
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post #14593 of 15169
9/23/12 at 3:52pm
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

New 950 owners are reporting "No increase in zones" same count as the 929 panels. As reported in the 950 Owners thread.
Has Sony simply re-badged he 929 models ??



It wouldn't be the first time a manufacturer has put new cosmetics on an old model and called it "new". Considering Sony's financial problems it shouldn't be surprising if there aren't major differences. At least they're both superb sets.
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post #14594 of 15169
9/23/12 at 3:56pm
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Originally Posted by ti-triodes View Post

It wouldn't be the first time a manufacturer has put new cosmetics on an old model and called it "new". Considering Sony's financial problems it shouldn't be surprising if there aren't major differences. At least they're both superb sets.

I agree 100% Sony may have gone in and corrected some 929 problems before the reissue and added a few more Apps etc. but nothing earthshaking.
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post #14595 of 15169
9/23/12 at 5:30pm
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I agree 100% Sony may have gone in and corrected some 929 problems before the reissue and added a few more Apps etc. but nothing earthshaking.
And as a 950 owner, I'm scratching my head wondering what is really different between it and the 929. I don't care too much about the various Apps it comes bundled with as long as I can get fantastic video quality over an HDMI input.
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post #14596 of 15169
9/23/12 at 5:48pm
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Originally Posted by gorthocar View Post

And as a 950 owner, I'm scratching my head wondering what is really different between it and the 929. I don't care too much about the various Apps it comes bundled with as long as I can get fantastic video quality over an HDMI input.

So, do you get fantastic video quality with the 950?
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post #14597 of 15169
9/23/12 at 6:16pm
How are your blacks

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post #14598 of 15169
9/23/12 at 6:18pm
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So, do you get fantastic video quality with the 950?
So far, yes, I'm very happy with it; it definitely has fantastic video quality for the items that I find most important. I'm sure I would have been very happy with the 929 as well. If the 950 were still in rumor/future phase, I would be a 929 owner today. I was assuming it would have more backlighting zones and all the goodness that comes with that (less blooming), but compared to any of the other sets out there, I wouldn't have gone wrong with either the 929 or 950.
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post #14599 of 15169
9/23/12 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

How are your blacks
I love MIB. biggrin.gif That is one of the things I love most about the Sony full array local dimming sets: fade to black scenes are completely pitch black. The settings can give you that with very little to no black crush for excellent low light detail, along with fantastic contrast and brightness. I do get a little bit of blooming, but I can live with that until Sony releases their Crystal LED sets at an affordable price.
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post #14600 of 15169
9/23/12 at 6:49pm
I love my set, I was hoping for a lot with the 929's to add it to my collection but they didn't do a 46" ??

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Edited by IMRIZZO - 9/23/12 at 6:59pm
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post #14601 of 15169
9/23/12 at 7:07pm
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

How are your blacks
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Nice smile.gif How about with letterbox movies? Is there noticeable blooming?
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post #14602 of 15169
9/23/12 at 7:08pm
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Originally Posted by mike50 View Post

Nice smile.gif How about with letterbox movies? Is there noticeable blooming?

None (to complain about) with my settings almost all blooming has been mitigated.
Edited by IMRIZZO - 9/24/12 at 7:41am
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post #14603 of 15169
9/24/12 at 9:17am
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

I love my set, I was hoping for a lot with the 929's to add it to my collection but they didn't do a 46" ??
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Is that a 1998 Ovation Limited Edition hiding over there to the right?
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post #14604 of 15169
9/24/12 at 9:22am
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Is that a 1998 Ovation Limited Edition hiding over there to the right?

Yes it is ...Celebrity series
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post #14605 of 15169
9/24/12 at 12:50pm
My brother bought a 55" 929, and the stand that comes with the box he is stating that the tv is leaning forward on the stand. Is there anything he can do to fix this?

is the stand on the 65" 929 better and will it work on the 55"?
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post #14606 of 15169
9/24/12 at 12:53pm
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Originally Posted by bottled View Post

My brother bought a 55" 929, and the stand that comes with the box he is stating that the tv is leaning forward on the stand. Is there anything he can do to fix this?
is the stand on the 65" 929 better and will it work on the 55"?

It should mot be leaning forward some of them have a tilt feature ( it should tilt back 6 degrees) not forward.
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post #14607 of 15169
9/24/12 at 2:10pm
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That doesn't create sharpening halos?

not sure about this. the halos arent really noticeable unless you get to a dark screen against a white object. i can check for you though
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post #14608 of 15169
9/24/12 at 2:29pm
Is there any possible way to independently adjust the color temperature on different segments of a display? I want so badly to enjoy this TV, but the defect drives me insane. The lack of uniformity is apparent on all viewing material and inputs.

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post #14609 of 15169
9/24/12 at 3:39pm
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

None (to complain about) with my settings almost all blooming has been mitigated.

Regarding blooming...

Do you have your TV adjusted to completely turn off the LEDs on completely black scenes or is it a step above that so it's very dim but not quite completely off?
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post #14610 of 15169
9/24/12 at 4:41pm
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Originally Posted by Flash676 View Post

Regarding blooming...
Do you have your TV adjusted to completely turn off the LEDs on completely black scenes or is it a step above that so it's very dim but not quite completely off?

My backlighting is set a minimum, along with other settings. Thus reducing blooming effect. If you would like I can PM settings for you to try ?
Edited by IMRIZZO - 9/24/12 at 5:05pm
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