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post #14641 of 15535
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Originally Posted by hellotv View Post

hello guys, i just got a 929 floor model for 2400 from bb, but i have to return because the stand was messed up bad when the guy put it in my car. now i could put it on the wall but for the price to do that since i hv no tools right now would put a few hundred dollars from the 950. 950 looks so much better and the improved 3d make makes think i should just dish out the 500 more online from a dealer that doesnt charge tax. however im finding some issues with the 929 which i assume is the same with the 950 since its all the same specs..3000 is a insane amount of money for me but i willing to pay if i can get tv that puts out one of the best pic around.
now i played around with the 929 settings on the other thread that were posted and im getting a picture thats way better than the eh6000 samsung that i had before the hx929, but the picture is only better on blu ray and 1080p. when i watch reg cable and play bf3 on playstation im getting the same picture as samsung which was only a 1000 dollars. i watch alot of cable and play battlefield 3 way more than i watch a blu ray. is there any gamers on here that thinks the 929/950 picture is better than a cheaper samsung. also do you guys change the settings when you watch a blu ray and then basic sd/hd tv shows. thanks for any info..

The 929 does a poor job compared to the Samsung's when it comes to cable noise reduction. I also have an older Samsung LNA750 and several of.my friends have newer models: D7000 ,C7000 and a D7900. All of these sets produce a sharper picture with less artifacts and mosquito noise than my 929. It's a shame because the 929 looks so amazing with pristine Blu Ray source material. There are various posts about this issue in this thread.
post #14642 of 15535
hey matto thanks, could i repost this in the 950 thread. i would love to know if this issue is better with the 950. but just a warning it seems like the 950 owners are new to their sets so they get mean over there.
post #14643 of 15535
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Originally Posted by hellotv View Post

hey matto thanks, could i repost this in the 950 thread. i would love to know if this issue is better with the 950. but just a warning it seems like the 950 owners are new to their sets so they get mean over there.

Sure go ahead. From what I read in the 950 thread, one of the forum members spoke to a Sony rep who stated that the 950 had improved noise reduction.
post #14644 of 15535
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Originally Posted by mattoc59 View Post

Sure go ahead. From what I read in the 950 thread, one of the forum members spoke to a Sony rep who stated that the 950 had improved noise reduction.

There have reportedly been a few upgrades / corrections over the 929 series, w/no confirmations on increased zones in the 65" mdl. According to rep I spoke with there are on increased zones and they allegedly worked on viewing axis (??) and other minor adjustments.
Edited by IMRIZZO - 10/9/12 at 7:23pm
post #14645 of 15535
With the 950 now being produced, will the last person on the 929 please turn out the lights when your done? To make a positive out of a negative, the XBR1/XBR2 website has been highly active even though it hasn't been produced for over 5 years. Unfortunately, it is due to it's unreliability.
post #14646 of 15535
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Originally Posted by bourmb View Post

With the 950 now being produced, will the last person on the 929 please turn out the lights when your done? To make a positive out of a negative, the XBR1/XBR2 website has been highly active even though it hasn't been produced for over 5 years. Unfortunately, it is due to it's unreliability.

A lot of 929 owners are now following the 950(929clone) thread.
post #14647 of 15535
I think I'm having an issue with an hdmi handshake between a Directv HR34 box and a Sony 65HX929.

HR34 is set to dolby digital and always left on throughout this little experiment.

1. TV audio is set to dolby digital. Tune to an HD channel. Result: Sound from TV and the display information from TV has the dolby digital symbol (meaning that the show is broadcasting in dolby?)

2. TV audio is set to dolby digital. Change channel from an HD channel to an SD channel. Result: No sound from TV and display information from TV still shows the dolby digital symbol (maybe meaning that the TV was expecting a dolby signal AND couldn't make the switch to non-dolby.)

3. Turn only the TV off and then back on. HR34 is still on the SD channel. Result: Sound from TV and display information from TV does NOT show the dolby digital symbol (meaning that the TV reset or figured out what signal was being passed to it.)

It is obvious that there is an issue with the TV being able to determine what audio signal it is receiving through the hdmi cable on the fly. It has no such problem when first powering on with the signal already being sent (HR34 on). It appears to be a handshake issue.

Any one knowledgeable about how to address this specific issue?
post #14648 of 15535
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

A lot of 929 owners are now following the 950(929clone) thread.

I feel good getting a 55" 929 back when Amazon had them for $2500. If would be ticked buying a new 950 with no improvement in 2D picture after all the Sony marketing hype only to find out it is mostly an ever-so-slightly massaged 929.
post #14649 of 15535
When playing videos from my notebook (i tested 1080 and 720 videos), it seem to cause the loss of horizontal alignement, mostly when the camera is moving, example:



(this image is from a game, but thats basically the same effect happening when i play movies from my notebook to the sony hx929)

im using this diamond hdmi cable: http://www.walmart.com.br/Produto/Eletronicos/Cabo-HDMI/Diamond-Cable/280685-HDMI---Mini-High-Speed-30m

Notebook has a nvidia GTS 360m video card.

Any idea what could be causing this issue ?

edit: btw, i did not noticed this effect on the notebook screen
post #14650 of 15535
Are you using the TV and laptop screens simultaneously or are you disabling the laptop screen completely when using the TV?
post #14651 of 15535
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Originally Posted by Flash676 View Post

Are you using the TV and laptop screens simultaneously or are you disabling the laptop screen completely when using the TV?

I was clonning, using the tv and laptop simultaneously... now that you said that i disabled the laptop screen and made a quick test, it seem to have stopped it.

I'll watch a few more videos to make sure, anything ill post here,, thanks a lot for the help!
post #14652 of 15535
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Originally Posted by metalspfc View Post

When playing videos from my notebook (i tested 1080 and 720 videos), it seem to cause the loss of horizontal alignement, mostly when the camera is moving, example:

(this image is from a game, but thats basically the same effect happening when i play movies from my notebook to the sony hx929)
im using this diamond hdmi cable: http://www.walmart.com.br/Produto/Eletronicos/Cabo-HDMI/Diamond-Cable/280685-HDMI---Mini-High-Speed-30m
Notebook has a nvidia GTS 360m video card.
Any idea what could be causing this issue ?
edit: btw, i did not noticed this effect on the notebook screen

V-Sync
post #14653 of 15535
My previous laptop had the same issue when using two displays, both cloned and independent.

VSync may alleviate a similar issue when the frame rate is greater than the TV's refresh rate, but I don't remember it fixing the problem you're experiencing.
post #14654 of 15535
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Originally Posted by metalspfc View Post

When playing videos from my notebook (i tested 1080 and 720 videos), it seem to cause the loss of horizontal alignement, mostly when the camera is moving, example:

(this image is from a game, but thats basically the same effect happening when i play movies from my notebook to the sony hx929)
im using this diamond hdmi cable: http://www.walmart.com.br/Produto/Eletronicos/Cabo-HDMI/Diamond-Cable/280685-HDMI---Mini-High-Speed-30m
Notebook has a nvidia GTS 360m video card.
Any idea what could be causing this issue ?
edit: btw, i did not noticed this effect on the notebook screen

V-Sync
post #14655 of 15535
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Originally Posted by metalspfc View Post

When playing videos from my notebook (i tested 1080 and 720 videos), it seem to cause the loss of horizontal alignement, mostly when the camera is moving, example:

(this image is from a game, but thats basically the same effect happening when i play movies from my notebook to the sony hx929)
im using this diamond hdmi cable: http://www.walmart.com.br/Produto/Eletronicos/Cabo-HDMI/Diamond-Cable/280685-HDMI---Mini-High-Speed-30m
Notebook has a nvidia GTS 360m video card.
Any idea what could be causing this issue ?
edit: btw, i did not noticed this effect on the notebook screen

I'll second what Amatot says...that's screen tearing that can be fixed by enabling v-sync. If you can't enable it in the game's settings then you can force it on globally or specifically for that game via the NVIDIA Control Panel.
post #14656 of 15535
I have had the 55" For about six months after deciding to buy it largely based on the posts in this thread. I see it is still growing! I came back just to report how fantastic this tv has been for us, and to point out that we have done absolutely nothing to calibrate the colors. It could just be us in our old age, but the default picture is just fine for us, whether from our TiVo, Oppo BDP95 or the Sony itself as source.

We only use 2 channel sound - Paradigm Studio V5 driven by a NAD M3 and the optical output of the TiVo is processed by an old Theta Casa Nova I bought of eBay quite cheaply. When we upgrade to this sound from years of listening to tv speakers we were blown away with the sound stage. I think it might be years before we add a center speaker and rears! The Sony HX929 outputs great sound via optical out through the Theta Casa Nova too which is great for Amazon Prime streaming.

Most of the stuff I bought was due to the excellent wisdom found on this forum. I don't post much and often don't log in for months. Usually, I find what I need just by reading and searching.

Keep up the good work. There must be many like me in background appreciation!
post #14657 of 15535
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Originally Posted by calicant View Post

I have had the 55" For about six months after deciding to buy it largely based on the posts in this thread. I see it is still growing! I came back just to report how fantastic this tv has been for us, and to point out that we have done absolutely nothing to calibrate the colors. It could just be us in our old age, but the default picture is just fine for us, whether from our TiVo, Oppo BDP95 or the Sony itself as source.
We only use 2 channel sound - Paradigm Studio V5 driven by a NAD M3 and the optical output of the TiVo is processed by an old Theta Casa Nova I bought of eBay quite cheaply. When we upgrade to this sound from years of listening to tv speakers we were blown away with the sound stage. I think it might be years before we add a center speaker and rears! The Sony HX929 outputs great sound via optical out through the Theta Casa Nova too which is great for Amazon Prime streaming.
Most of the stuff I bought was due to the excellent wisdom found on this forum. I don't post much and often don't log in for months. Usually, I find what I need just by reading and searching.
Keep up the good work. There must be many like me in background appreciation!

Adding a center channel brings a whole new perspective to the surround sound field, it centralizes the dialogue ..... a major difference in the projected sound-field.
Edited by IMRIZZO - 10/13/12 at 12:51pm
post #14658 of 15535
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Originally Posted by misbe View Post

I think I'm having an issue with an hdmi handshake between a Directv HR34 box and a Sony 65HX929.
HR34 is set to dolby digital and always left on throughout this little experiment.
1. TV audio is set to dolby digital. Tune to an HD channel. Result: Sound from TV and the display information from TV has the dolby digital symbol (meaning that the show is broadcasting in dolby?)
2. TV audio is set to dolby digital. Change channel from an HD channel to an SD channel. Result: No sound from TV and display information from TV still shows the dolby digital symbol (maybe meaning that the TV was expecting a dolby signal AND couldn't make the switch to non-dolby.)
3. Turn only the TV off and then back on. HR34 is still on the SD channel. Result: Sound from TV and display information from TV does NOT show the dolby digital symbol (meaning that the TV reset or figured out what signal was being passed to it.)
It is obvious that there is an issue with the TV being able to determine what audio signal it is receiving through the hdmi cable on the fly. It has no such problem when first powering on with the signal already being sent (HR34 on). It appears to be a handshake issue.
Any one knowledgeable about how to address this specific issue?


I Have this HR34 and love it and don't have any sound issues. But I also have it running through a Denon 3312CI receiver and 6.1 Marage speakers.
post #14659 of 15535
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Originally Posted by Hokoo View Post

I Have this HR34 and love it and don't have any sound issues. But I also have it running through a Denon 3312CI receiver and 6.1 Marage speakers.

I assume you mean 5.1 Mirage speakers ? what type V2 / MX1 or OS2 ?
Edited by IMRIZZO - 10/15/12 at 10:19am
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I have a step up from the 5.1 setup and as you can see from where I bought them I got an awesome deal. Best setup I have ever owned makes watching TV enjoyable, specially when company is over and you see them turn there heads during a movie wondering where the sounds they hear are coming from. http://*******.com/8k283zq

OMDC1 $329 center
OMD5 $169 four surround sound
MM8 Subwoofer $299
post #14661 of 15535
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Originally Posted by Hokoo View Post

I have a step up from the 5.1 setup and as you can see from where I bought them I got an awesome deal. Best setup I have ever owned makes watching TV enjoyable, specially when company is over and you see them turn there heads during a movie wondering where the sounds they hear are coming from. http://*******.com/8k283zq
OMDC1 $329 center
OMD5 $169 four surround sound
MM8 Subwoofer $299
Nice I have the:
post #14662 of 15535
I have a 65hx929 with banding problems.I got the tv in August and called Sony about a replacement.First they send me a 55',missed a day of work.Next they send me a 65 inch that was clearly refurbished,it was dirty and I refused it,another day I missed work.Now I get a call that they've decided to buy the tv back from me.I asked why couldn't they send me a 950.Got some malarky about why they couldn't do it.What has me upset is that I have to wait 4 weeks for the check.In the meantime I'll be without a tv for the baseball playoff's and football.Am I wrong about this?I'm going to call again and see if I can get a 950.
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Originally Posted by EddieDigital View Post

I have a 65hx929 with banding problems.I got the tv in August and called Sony about a replacement.First they send me a 55',missed a day of work.Next they send me a 65 inch that was clearly refurbished,it was dirty and I refused it,another day I missed work.Now I get a call that they've decided to buy the tv back from me.I asked why couldn't they send me a 950.Got some malarky about why they couldn't do it.What has me upset is that I have to wait 4 weeks for the check.In the meantime I'll be without a tv for the baseball playoff's and football.Am I wrong about this?I'm going to call again and see if I can get a 950.

Surprising they won't offer you a 950 ??? the pricing is the same ? Although the 950 65" sets have problems too ?
Contact SONYLISTENS on facebook they're pretty good at resolving problems.
Edited by IMRIZZO - 10/16/12 at 8:15am
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I called back and finally spoke to someone with some sense. They're going to ship me a 950 as soon as they have them available.@Rizzo,does anyone have a 65 950?If I get one with lighter bands I'll be a happy camper.This is a great tv and since the 950 is basically the same I can't complain.I hope I get a good one,the only tv on the same level are the Sharp Elite's.Being a Sony whore all my life I can't see myself with that tv.Not to mention that it's butt ugly next to the 929/950!
post #14665 of 15535
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

Surprising they won't offer you a 950 ??? the pricing is the same ? Although the 950 65" sets have problems too ?
Contact SONYLISTENS on facebook they're pretty good at resolving problems.

It's a business decision and a prudent one at that.
The 950 is new so the available pool of refurbished units will pale in comparison to the recently discontinued 929.
Remedy for problem sets are 99% of the time from the refurbished pool. Sony will only "upgrade" (if you want to call it that..) folks to the newer model once the available refurbished pool tips in balance to the newer set.
This isn't rocket science
Even then, they will typically only offer a direct replacement to a newer, trickled down tech version (albeit refurbished) set OR an upgrade to newer "improved" model at an out-of-pocket expense for the consumer.
There are plenty examples of this logistic, explained in great detail , numerous times, right here on AVS.
For example, buy a HX800 set in 2010, get offered a HX750 refurbished set 18 months later.
Why? Because the tech that was introduced into the HX8 series trickled down to the HX7 series - making them virtually equivalent.


All that said, this mentality that folks can finagle a newer model year product from a previous model years woes goes far to reveal the pathetic and TRUE scamming nature of many an American consumer.
There are plenty of examples of that type of person here on AVS.
To them I say, "Get a life..and quit screwing over the marketplace"
Edited by amatot - 10/16/12 at 10:20am
post #14666 of 15535
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

Surprising they won't offer you a 950 ??? the pricing is the same ? Although the 950 65" sets have problems too ?
Contact SONYLISTENS on facebook they're pretty good at resolving problems.

The Sony Listens team has provided some of the best customer service I've ever received on a piece of electronics. It's one of the reasons I'll recommend Sony products over other brands.
post #14667 of 15535
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Originally Posted by EddieDigital View Post

I called back and finally spoke to someone with some sense. They're going to ship me a 950 as soon as they have them available.@Rizzo,does anyone have a 65 950?If I get one with lighter bands I'll be a happy camper.This is a great tv and since the 950 is basically the same I can't complain.I hope I get a good one,the only tv on the same level are the Sharp Elite's.Being a Sony whore all my life I can't see myself with that tv.Not to mention that it's butt ugly next to the 929/950!

Check this thread http://www.avsforum.com/t/1430346/sony-xbr-hx950-owners-thread-xbr-55hx9-50-and-xbr-65hx95-0/690#post_22497970 lots of info posted.
post #14668 of 15535
Thanks Rizz..I've been following that thread and I'm aware that the banding issue is still rearing it's head.I wouldn't mind the banding if it's very light.My uncle has a band free 65hx929 so I know they're out there.My friend has a set with bands lighter than mine which I would find acceptable.It's not really a problem when they're light.I understand there is no defect free tv,
post #14669 of 15535
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Originally Posted by EddieDigital View Post

Thanks Rizz..I've been following that thread and I'm aware that the banding issue is still rearing it's head.I wouldn't mind the banding if it's very light.My uncle has a band free 65hx929 so I know they're out there.My friend has a set with bands lighter than mine which I would find acceptable.It's not really a problem when they're light.I understand there is no defect free tv,

I believe the Banding issue is affecting all the 65 " panels by all the manufacturers ?? I believe it has something to do with the bonding methods.
post #14670 of 15535
There is no single banding phenomenon that explains all the scenarios people are experiencing but a preponderance of banding issues have to do with back light/zone control, not bonding issues.

The larger the screen area, the greater the potential for the perception of banding.
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