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It appears most of the large 65" panels are suffering banding problems from minor to major, disappointing that Sony hasn't addressed this anomaly,since it also affected the 929 series ?
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Hey All, im late getting into the HX929 game but having tried the Panasonic GT50 and the Samsung ES7100 i pulled the trigger on a floor model for under $2,000 to do a comparison with the ES7100 which is currently on my wall. Im running out of time to return the Samsung and although not in the same room the PQ seems to be a lot better on the Sony and that is what i am interested in most. My only hang-up is dropping down from a 60 to a 55 and buying something that has been on the BB wall for over a year vs brand new and the latest model.

Spec wise and reading the wealth of information on this site it should be a no brainer in making the switch to the Sony but can anybody see any draw backs in doing so? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Newbuthooked View Post

Hey All, im late getting into the HX929 game but having tried the Panasonic GT50 and the Samsung ES7100 i pulled the trigger on a floor model for under $2,000 to do a comparison with the ES7100 which is currently on my wall. Im running out of time to return the Samsung and although not in the same room the PQ seems to be a lot better on the Sony and that is what i am interested in most. My only hang-up is dropping down from a 60 to a 55 and buying something that has been on the BB wall for over a year vs brand new and the latest model.
Spec wise and reading the wealth of information on this site it should be a no brainer in making the switch to the Sony but can anybody see any draw backs in doing so? Thanks!

Not sure about the "no brainer" part. A no brainer would apply if there was no negative issues. I agree, the sony is a better machine. However having it running 12 hours a day for over a year, that's 4,380 hours for a year...over a year would be more hours. How many years would it take you to put 4,380 hours on a set. As far as the 929 vs 950, most think it's just a rebadged unit. No changes at all. If I were in you'r shoes, I have BB throw in an extended warranty and deeply discount the unit. Good luck with your decision.
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After almost a year with my 46x929 I am still very happy. I have really only had issue with a couple of things.

Some times when a single color is dramatically displayed, like when a colored spot light hits an actor or part of the stage, sometimes there is over saturation and a complete loss of detail in the color. Same effect as if you raise contrast and watch details in bright whites disappear.

Sometimes a shadow area on an actors face will look wrong. Examples would be films like the Matrix, Sin City where there is lots of contrast and sometimes enhanced, peaky contrast by design. It seems the shadow area will show up in the mono color treat they are using to colorize the film for effect. It's made me wonder if somewhere in the Sony video processing, if it is averaging color ranges and making choices about how to alter or display the contrast, gamma and grayscale of the image.

I would buy the 46x929 again in a second.
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Originally Posted by bekindrewind View Post

Not sure about the "no brainer" part. A no brainer would apply if there was no negative issues. I agree, the sony is a better machine. However having it running 12 hours a day for over a year, that's 4,380 hours for a year...over a year would be more hours. How many years would it take you to put 4,380 hours on a set. As far as the 929 vs 950, most think it's just a rebadged unit. No changes at all. If I were in you'r shoes, I have BB throw in an extended warranty and deeply discount the unit. Good luck with your decision.

You make a good point and one i never really thought about hard enough... I got it for $1800 and i have a square trade warranty that i could switch to this set once the 1 year manufacturing warranty runs out. So far it looks great, no creases or banding issues and the blacks look way better than the Samsung but how long until any issues start popping up based on the amount of time that it has been running already. I thought buying a TV would be way easier but every set this year seems to have its issues. At this point i guess take a gamble with this set for $1800 or basically buy the same set (950) new for almost double.

Thanks
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Just to be clear, you purchased the XBR55HX929 for $1,800. That's a great price, which is about half of suggested retail.
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Originally Posted by bekindrewind View Post

Just to be clear, you purchased the XBR55HX929 for $1,800. That's a great price, which is about half of suggested retail.

That is correct... I just arranged to have my Samsung returned so i dont get stuck with that one and i have the usal 30 days to make my mind up on this one. I know there is nothing out there (especially at the price i paid) that will compete with the 929 but piece of mind is important as well.
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Originally Posted by Newbuthooked View Post

You make a good point and one i never really thought about hard enough... I got it for $1800 and i have a square trade warranty that i could switch to this set once the 1 year manufacturing warranty runs out. So far it looks great, no creases or banding issues and the blacks look way better than the Samsung but how long until any issues start popping up based on the amount of time that it has been running already. I thought buying a TV would be way easier but every set this year seems to have its issues. At this point i guess take a gamble with this set for $1800 or basically buy the same set (950) new for almost double.
Thanks

If you can't find any issues with this set now, I doubt any will 'pop-up'.
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I have been reading and studying the Samsung ES8000, the HX929 and now the HX950 threads for sometime.

I have owned the Samsung UN55B8000 for years and love the PQ of the TV.

I would like to upgrade to a 65" and was going to get the 65ES8000 but after reading all the negative posts regarding the TV problems, I decided, NO.

I then started looking at the Sony 929. Then, the 950 came out and it also has it problems with banding, etc. It is discouraging.

I was also considering (not upgrading in size but in PQ) by getting the 55" OLED when they came out if the reviews were great regarding PQ. But, Samsung and LG changed their minds about coming out this year, maybe 2013.

Yesterday, I looked at Samsung's new 75" ES9000 series and it looks pretty good. (Size is too big for my area)

So, this is my thinking: Either get the Song 65HX950 now (it seems to have less problems) or wait until 2013 when either 1) Samsung might have fixed the 65ES8000 or they might produce a 65"ES9000, 2) Sony produces something more than a re-baged 929 (950), 3) Not upgrade in size but in PQ when the 55" OLED's come out, possibly in 2013.

What is your thought? I really need some thoughts on what might be a good course of action. The Samsung 55B8000 that I now have is great and doesn't need to be changed. I want to upgrade size but at the same time not in a hurry to make a big mistake.

Your thoughts please.



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Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

I have been reading and studying the Samsung ES8000, the HX929 and now the HX950 threads for sometime.
I have owned the Samsung UN55B8000 for years and love the PQ of the TV.
I would like to upgrade to a 65" and was going to get the 65ES8000 but after reading all the negative posts regarding the TV problems, I decided, NO.
I then started looking at the Sony 929. Then, the 950 came out and it also has it problems with banding, etc. It is discouraging.
I was also considering (not upgrading in size but in PQ) by getting the 55" OLED when they came out if the reviews were great regarding PQ. But, Samsung and LG changed their minds about coming out this year, maybe 2013.
Yesterday, I looked at Samsung's new 75" ES9000 series and it looks pretty good. (Size is too big for my area)
So, this is my thinking: Either get the Song 65HX950 now (it seems to have less problems) or wait until 2013 when either 1) Samsung might have fixed the 65ES8000 or they might produce a 65"ES9000, 2) Sony produces something more than a re-baged 929 (950), 3) Not upgrade in size but in PQ when the 55" OLED's come out, possibly in 2013.
What is your thought? I really need some thoughts on what might be a good course of action. The Samsung 55B8000 that I now have is great and doesn't need to be changed. I want to upgrade size but at the same time not in a hurry to make a big mistake.
Your thoughts please.

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OLED's are IR prone, and EXPENSIVE $$$
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

OLED's are IR prone, and EXPENSIVE $$$

Expensive, yes, possibly around $10,000 but if it gives a PQ that is far beyond what can be achieved by either a plasma, LCD or LED, it might be worth it.

What do you mean "IR prone"
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Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

Expensive, yes, possibly around $10,000 but if it gives a PQ that is far beyond what can be achieved by either a plasma, LCD or LED, it might be worth it.
What do you mean "IR prone"

One of the reported drawbacks has to do with the OLED panels being subject with Image Retention (much as a plasma panel). For 10G's, "da godda do better dan dat"!

If you want my 10G's, you godda show me da GOODS !
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

One of the reported drawbacks has to do with the OLED panels being subject with Image Retention (much as a plasma panel). For 10G's, "da godda do better dan dat"!
If you want my 10G's, you godda show me da GOODS !

If I go that route, I will take IR into consideration. Thanks

But Sony's new 65HX950 does looks good. Do you think 2013 might bring in something new from Sony vs a re-badged model?
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Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

If I go that route, I will take IR into consideration. Thanks
But Sony's new 65HX950 does looks good. Do you think 2013 might bring in something new from Sony vs a re-badged model?
They are working with Panasonic to produce OLED panels, as the Japanese electronic industry tries to recovery from Korean products,which were cutting deeply into their sales.
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

They are working with Panasonic to produce OLED panels, as the Japanese electronic industry tries to recovery from Korean products,which were cutting deeply into their sales.

Thanks for the info.

I am think that maybe I should not be in a hurry and wait one more year and see what the year 2013 has to offer. Darn, I did want a 65" now.
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Originally Posted by mattoc59 View Post

The 929 does a poor job compared to the Samsung's when it comes to cable noise reduction. I also have an older Samsung LNA750 and several of.my friends have newer models: D7000 ,C7000 and a D7900. All of these sets produce a sharper picture with less artifacts and mosquito noise than my 929. It's a shame because the 929 looks so amazing with pristine Blu Ray source material. There are various posts about this issue in this thread.

You or someone else posted this before, but I don't understand it. I have both cable and OTA and it's virtually impossible to tell the difference between them. I had always thought that I would watch the channels that were available OTA in that manner, but I find to be unnecessary. Maybe my cable system is better than yours so there is no visible noise for the Sony to "fix". Having said that, I've noticed that the Letterman show always seems "noisy" to me, but it looks the same OTA as it does on cable.
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Hi Rizz, I'm still using the original settings you once sent me but I understand you've revised them a little. Can you please send them to me so I can try them out. Thanks
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Whats the best wall mount to buy for the 55HX929 please ??????........just picked up a floor model at my BB for a good price with 4 years warranty
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My local tv store has one brand new unit left of the Sony XBR 55". Price is $2,400. Salesman said he'd give me free delivery, free 5-year warranty and $50 off.

I've been wrestling with wanting the 65" XBR, but can't afford $5,000.

I've also been looking at the Samsung ES6100, which is $600 cheaper and 5" larger than the 55" XBR. I've also looked at the 65" Panasonic VT50, which is $1,500 less than the 65" XBR, but is a Plasma and seems a bit too dark for my taste.

Any advice on whether I should pull the trigger on the 55" XBR? Is it worth it? I have a 52" Toshiba LCD that's four years old, so the 55" wouldn't be much of an increase in size. However, I know the quality would be infinitely better. I'm just not sure whether I should get a vast superior tv, but is pretty much the same size as the tv I've had the last four years, or if I should pull the trigger with a bigger unit like the Samsung or Pansonic, but is of lesser quality.
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That's a very good deal................it would be hard if it was me to give up such a deal. Even amazon is selling a new one without any additional warranty or anything for $2800.
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Hello HX929 owner's, I just received the 46HX929 with a build date of Feb. 2012 and unfortunately, it has the crease on both left and right of the screen. Can I expect this defect to diminish or disappear over time? This would be hard pill to swallow if “ that’s just the way it is " considering my profession involves correcting image quality problems in graphic arts.
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Originally Posted by Nieto View Post

Hello HX929 owner's, I just received the 46HX929 with a build date of Feb. 2012 and unfortunately, it has the crease on both left and right of the screen. Can I expect this defect to diminish or disappear over time? This would be hard pill to swallow if “ that’s just the way it is " considering my profession involves correcting image quality problems in graphic arts.

try for an exchange
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Thanks, I know they only have one remaining. Hopefully it will be "creaseless".
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Originally Posted by Nieto View Post

Thanks, I know they only have one remaining. Hopefully it will be "creaseless".
Good Luck
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Hi,
I'm rather new with the 55HX929 set. I've noticed that my TV will not respond to the commands from the remote for about 1 minute after turning it on. The TV receives the signalling from the remote because I see the blinking of the LED on the TV. Is there a fix for that?
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Originally Posted by Caman View Post

Hi,
I'm rather new with the 55HX929 set. I've noticed that my TV will not respond to the commands from the remote for about 1 minute after turning it on. The TV receives the signalling from the remote because I see the blinking of the LED on the TV. Is there a fix for that?

Do you have the TV in standby mode or do you turn it off ?
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Ditto what Rizzo said.

Here's an excerpt from the manual for quick reference. It you have the manual handy, you can look at the image on the page related to "Running initial setup"

1 Complete your cable connections
before proceeding with the Initial
Setup.
Connect the TV to your nearest
power outlet.

**2 Check the ENERGY SAVING
switch setting is on.

**3 Press (power) on the TV. The "
(power) indicator will light green.
When you switch the TV on for the
first time, the Language menu
appears on the screen.
~
***• When you turn on the TV for the first time, the
TV requires some internal processing for
optimization before you can perform the initial
setup. There will be no picture and sound, and
the timer indicator on the front of the TV
blinks orange for about 40 seconds. Do not turn
off the TV during this process. This process
has been completed at the factory on some
TVs.
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Originally Posted by Caman View Post

Hi,
I'm rather new with the 55HX929 set. I've noticed that my TV will not respond to the commands from the remote for about 1 minute after turning it on. The TV receives the signalling from the remote because I see the blinking of the LED on the TV. Is there a fix for that?

That is normal behavior.

Once the television goes into the lower power state it will take a bit longer for all actions to complete until the set completely wakes up.

Don't believe it? Just shut your set off, wait 5 seconds and turn it back on - and observe how quickly everything responds then.

If you shut off the TV with the physical button on the side it will take even longer for the whole set to wake up...
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Hi,

I have the "energy saving" switch on, and I use the remote to turn the TV off and on.
I have the XBR4 and XBR8 sets - and they have never been so slow with the power up. Once you see the screen on, you can control the TV. The newer set should be faster -with a new processor etc.?
post #14700 of 15539
^^^You'd think so but in fact the newer Sonys take longer to fully boot up to the point where adjustments etc. are available. Had the same characteristic on a 2010 model EX series set. Set would come on and display a picture but wouldn't access the menu for a while, then if scrolled over to the picture adjustments it would take a while for the adjustment menu to load. Newer sets are just more "computer-like" in this respect.

Mine had some power saving features in the menu that, when turned off, would somewhat reduce boot up time.
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