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post #14851 of 15535
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Originally Posted by cactus79 View Post

Hi, I have just gotten a 65hx920 and it looks like this. seems a bit much of DSE? should i return it?

Wow, that looks terrible. I'm dealing with a similar issue, but it's concentrated on the right half of my display. I'd suggest contacting Sony to repair, or replace your set (good luck getting them to admit there's an issue). If all else fails, get a refund, and try another brand.
post #14852 of 15535
Hi, I had the same problem with the netflix button and have done the following workaround:

Just go into the "menu" and open up an internet browser window. After it loads the Sony webpage, you can exit and voila - the netflix feature magically works again.

Don't know if it will fix your issue, but it has worked 3 different times for me.
post #14853 of 15535
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Originally Posted by Muster25 View Post

Hi, I had the same problem with the netflix button and have done the following workaround:
Just go into the "menu" and open up an internet browser window. After it loads the Sony webpage, you can exit and voila - the netflix feature magically works again.
Don't know if it will fix your issue, but it has worked 3 different times for me.

The fact that you've had the same incident occur 3 times, is an indication that something is not correcting your revision. Possibly time to call Sony for advice to effect a permanent solution. Just my opinion, of course.
post #14854 of 15535
Hi, I'm in the process of setting up my new Oppo 103. There are a couple video settings I am trying to setup to compliment my 929 display best.

The first is the color space. Any recommendations on what I should set this to based on the 929 display? The options are: Auto, RGB Video Level, RGB PC Level, YCbCr 4:4:4, or YCbCr 4:2:2.

Secondly is the Deep Color Setting: My options are: 36 bits, 30 Bits (Dithered), 30 Bits, Off (Dithered), and Off. Any thoughts? Thank!
post #14855 of 15535
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Originally Posted by hilgy View Post

Hi, I'm in the process of setting up my new Oppo 103. There are a couple video settings I am trying to setup to compliment my 929 display best.
The first is the color space. Any recommendations on what I should set this to based on the 929 display? The options are: Auto, RGB Video Level, RGB PC Level, YCbCr 4:4:4, or YCbCr 4:2:2.
Secondly is the Deep Color Setting: My options are: 36 bits, 30 Bits (Dithered), 30 Bits, Off (Dithered), and Off. Any thoughts? Thank!

I'm using an Oppo 93 with default setting and I'm quite satisfied with the PQ.
Edited by IMRIZZO - 12/30/12 at 2:33pm
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Happy NewYear's to everyone
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Cabin In The Woods on BluRay.

Anybody watch this BD and have trouble in the really dark areas? I've read that there is actually issues with the source in the dark areas, but parts of it looked just awful with my settings (which I've found wonderful up until now). Lots of blooming which I never really notice otherwise and some black crush that I also don't notice in other films.

Rizz have your settings changed since June 2012? I'll plug them in later and see it that improves things.
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Originally Posted by Datacide View Post

Cabin In The Woods on BluRay.
Anybody watch this BD and have trouble in the really dark areas? I've read that there is actually issues with the source in the dark areas, but parts of it looked just awful with my settings (which I've found wonderful up until now). Lots of blooming which I never really notice otherwise and some black crush that I also don't notice in other films.
Rizz have your settings changed since June 2012? I'll plug them in later and see it that improves things.

Same settings, but also, same problems with that disc ??
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Oh really?! Well, then maybe I'll just chalk it up to a bad transfer. I've been pretty happy with my settings and I have better things to do than try to get one anomalous disc to perform better. Thanks for the confirmation! smile.gif Weird, I thought I'd read some review somewhere about the bluray being "reference level".
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Originally Posted by Datacide View Post

Oh really?! Well, then maybe I'll just chalk it up to a bad transfer. I've been pretty happy with my settings and I have better things to do than try to get one anomalous disc to perform better. Thanks for the confirmation! smile.gif
I think because of the constant shooting in extremely dark conditions helped with the haloing and over-saturation of darkness, because the few scenes shoot under normal lighting conditions were not affected ??
post #14861 of 15535
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Originally Posted by GGB View Post

Anyone using an Oppo 93 with this panel?
If so has anyone found the optimal settings regarding source direct, colorspace, deep color(despite the fact blu-ray doesn't use it)?
Had a search through the thread and can't find anything.

Ive been running the Oppo 93 since early summer and I love it.
Picture quality is stunning and I've not had to adjust anything on the player side; loading is pretty fast - especially compared to the Pioneer Elite I ditched; recovery from bad chapters (on rental discs) is pretty forgiving when it happens - the Pioneer hung and would require a power cycle.
I've heard good things about the Oppo 103 too!
I'm glad these guys are around...
Edited by amatot - 6/3/13 at 4:26pm
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Has anyone else with a Windows Media Center PC, Ceton Card and ATI video card successfully able to run Cinema 2 mode with AUTO 1 selected as the cinemtion option without ocasional frame drops?

I have been using Auto 2 for the last year because of this but I like the look of Auto 1 better. Very frustrating.

I have tried turning off enforce smooth video playback in the ATI drivers, enabled Vector adaptive de-interlacing, 3:2pulldown enabled etc...

No matter what I do, with live TV on the Ceton or blu ray MKV playback, I get frame drops using auto 1. All is fine with Auto 2....

I just updated to the latest firmware which seems to have improved the issue slightly but maybe thats just wishful thinking, its still not perfect..
post #14864 of 15535
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post


Well...could be worse, could have a massive thread continuing with massive problems like some other threads. smile.gif Those are great .gifs though.
post #14865 of 15535
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Originally Posted by moshster View Post

Has anyone else with a Windows Media Center PC, Ceton Card and ATI video card successfully able to run Cinema 2 mode with AUTO 1 selected as the cinemtion option without ocasional frame drops?

I have been using Auto 2 for the last year because of this but I like the look of Auto 1 better. Very frustrating.

I have tried turning off enforce smooth video playback in the ATI drivers, enabled Vector adaptive de-interlacing, 3:2pulldown enabled etc...

No matter what I do, with live TV on the Ceton or blu ray MKV playback, I get frame drops using auto 1. All is fine with Auto 2....

I just updated to the latest firmware which seems to have improved the issue slightly but maybe thats just wishful thinking, its still not perfect..


I've never had satisfactory results with Auto1, I have similar issues with it no matter the source. It isn't terrible for me with the PS3, but with BluRay you don't really need cinemotion. It is mainly for the 3:2 video pulldown. I agree with you, I too like the effect and I wish it worked more smoothly. You either have to live with the occasional drops or disable it or move to Auto2, I don't think you'll find a fix for the issue. I personally have it disabled now.
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Originally Posted by moshster View Post

Has anyone else with a Windows Media Center PC, Ceton Card and ATI video card successfully able to run Cinema 2 mode with AUTO 1 selected as the cinemtion option without ocasional frame drops?

I have been using Auto 2 for the last year because of this but I like the look of Auto 1 better. Very frustrating.

I have tried turning off enforce smooth video playback in the ATI drivers, enabled Vector adaptive de-interlacing, 3:2pulldown enabled etc...

No matter what I do, with live TV on the Ceton or blu ray MKV playback, I get frame drops using auto 1. All is fine with Auto 2....

I just updated to the latest firmware which seems to have improved the issue slightly but maybe thats just wishful thinking, its still not perfect..

I have an HTPC running on Windows 7 Home Premium with the Ceton Card and Nvidia graphics card. I have yet to see any frame drops or lag with any type of source material.
post #14867 of 15535
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Originally Posted by Datacide View Post

Well...could be worse, could have a massive thread continuing with massive problems like some other threads. smile.gif Those are great .gifs though.

I can relate to the comment as I am a former owner of KDS50XBR1 and KDS60XBR2 tvs!
post #14868 of 15535
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Originally Posted by Datacide View Post

Well...could be worse, could have a massive thread continuing with massive problems like some other threads. smile.gif Those are great .gifs though.

So true.
post #14869 of 15535
Version PKG4.019AAA is out. I would say standard update fair. Nothing of course on Sony support side right now.
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Hell, I'd like to know what any of them are for. Is there a repository database for these updates? Either Sony or AVS?
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OMG!!!

I was just peeking over at the XBR950 thread and someone posted the "latest and greatest 2013" NEW sets from Sony.

The top of the line XBR set is now the Ultra High Definition called the X900 that is.............era.........if you will pardon the pun.....ULTRA UGLY!!! !!! After Sony worked very hard on the design they finally came out with the futuristic and simplistic look of the XBR 929 and 950 that are almost frameless. Now they go and release something that looks awful!! What happen, did the designer that did the 929 and 950 die?

On the other hand, if you like to look at "boom box" type speakers ( read I DON'T here), you'll love the latest from Sony. Personally if this was done to improve the sound of the built-in speakers on the TV..............who gives a crap? If I want good sound, that is what surround sound is made for, and those speakers are not mounted to the TV and can be almost hidden. What was Sony thinking????? .........and for that price range set.........era............I don't think so.

I am just stunned by what Sony did for the 2013 line up !!!!

Best Regards,

GPHVIDEO
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It seconds as a Boombox. You will see people carrying them on their shoulder come spring/summer 13'. Just on the beach be careful with water and sand.
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Originally Posted by GPHVIDEO View Post

OMG!!!

I was just peeking over at the XBR950 thread and someone posted the "latest and greatest 2013" NEW sets from Sony.

The top of the line XBR set is now the Ultra High Definition called the X900 that is.............era.........if you will pardon the pun.....ULTRA UGLY!!! !!! After Sony worked very hard on the design they finally came out with the futuristic and simplistic look of the XBR 929 and 950 that are almost frameless. Now they go and release something that looks awful!! What happen, did the designer that did the 929 and 950 die?

On the other hand, if you like to look at "boom box" type speakers ( read I DON'T here), you'll love the latest from Sony. Personally if this was done to improve the sound of the built-in speakers on the TV..............who gives a crap? If I want good sound, that is what surround sound is made for, and those speakers are not mounted to the TV and can be almost hidden. What was Sony thinking????? .........and for that price range set.........era............I don't think so.

I am just stunned by what Sony did for the 2013 line up !!!!

Best Regards,

GPHVIDEO

I disagree. One of the biggest complaints I have about my 929 is about the poor native sound. While I do have it hooked up to a receiver, there are times, especially when watching pre-stereo era movies, news shows, Daily Show, etc., or if it's late at night, that I only want to use the TV speakers. But the sound from the 929 is really bad, which is expected because the space for the speakers is so small. I have no problem with Sony adding speakers to the sides if it improves the native sound. That's what the Pioneer Kuro sets did, although those were removable. As far as the look is concerned, I don't know this for sure, but I think there may be speaker grills and the CES show photos display the sets without the grills. As for how the set looks overall, I can't comment on that until I see one in person. Looking at photos is always misleading

I will however agree that those side panels should have been removable or there should have been comparable models with and without those speakers because if someone has this in a home theatre situation where they're always going through a sound system, you wouldn't want those speaker panels.
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I agree to disagree. I would wager they would sell more units to the masses without speakers. Should have the option to remove them if you don't use but that's not the case with the newer model Sonys. If I am spending 3K^ on a flat screen I am into the HT gig pretty big. John Doe has a nice surround sound already etc...family enjoys blu-ray movie night a couple 2-3 times a week. IMO Sony missed the boat on this one. Sleek, thin and classy is in. Whoever is on there design team they better get rid of IMO.
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Originally Posted by zoetmb View Post

I disagree.

I will however agree that those side panels should have been removable or there should have been comparable models with and without those speakers because if someone has this in a home theatre situation where they're always going through a sound system, you wouldn't want those speaker panels.

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Originally Posted by Browninggold View Post

I agree to disagree. I would wager they would sell more units to the masses without speakers. Should have the option to remove them if you don't use but that's not the case with the newer model Sonys. If I am spending 3K^ on a flat screen I am into the HT gig pretty big. John Doe has a nice surround sound already etc...family enjoys blu-ray movie night a couple 2-3 times a week. IMO Sony missed the boat on this one. Sleek, thin and classy is in. Whoever is on there design team they better get rid of IMO.


zoetmb, like Browninggold says, we can agree to disagree.............era.............very much I'd say...smile.gif.........

Sony designers, with the "gorillia glass" have finally taken the design of the flat panels to a very clean look. My 929 looks like a piece of black glass on the wall. Very simple and I think rather classy looking with all the wiring..........and I do mean ALL the wiring concealed. It could not look any cleaner........IMO. Now don't get me wrong I've seen numerous photos of theaters that were set up with big.........and I do mean big speakers surrounding a very clean looking 929 set. This is simply NOT my style. My external speakers are set up to almost disappear from view. You only realize that they are there when they are turned on.

Although I will agree that the sound from the 929 is nothing to write home about, the TV speakers do work when you do not have the receiver speakers turned on. In my case this would simply mean when I did not care to listen to the full sound coming from the TV, but only "monitor" the sound from what ever I was watching.

The flip side of the X900 design..........take something that "could" be very clean and attach the "boom box" look. If you do this, why spend money on design techniques like "grollia glass". Simply put a metal frame around it like almost ALL of the other flat panels available today. Save the money.

If it turns out that the speakers are removalble...................well disregard my comments. But I can tell you the first thing that I would do is remove those ULTRA Ugly speakers. smile.gif

OTOH.............That's why they make chocolate ice cream.........so I've been told!!

Best Regards,

GPHVIDEO
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I agree smile.gif
post #14877 of 15535
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Originally Posted by MRMOTA View Post

Version PKG4.019AAA is out. I would say standard update fair. Nothing of course on Sony support side right now.

Mine upgraded, too. Anyone know what the new upgrade added or fixed?
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Originally Posted by gbaby View Post

Mine upgraded, too. Anyone know what the new upgrade added or fixed?

nothng PQ related, just apps and other connectivity settings.

I have never seen a PQ upgrade in any of the firmware updates in my 929 or my XBR8 ?? I wish they would announce what changes are to be installed, leaving the choice to update up to me ??
Edited by IMRIZZO - 1/13/13 at 6:16am
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Anybody think the menus come up any quicker since the update? Maybe I am just looking for stuff, but everything feels a little snappier.
post #14880 of 15535
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Originally Posted by Tyrindor View Post


It will be nearly impossible (if not impossible) to find any newer quality LCD/LED, with a quality panel and features, with

I'm sorry but if you cannot deal with a mere 30-50ms input lag and want decent quality, then you are looking in the wrong department i'm afraid. I really don't understand why people cannot play games with 30-50ms, even multiplayer games. Unless you are some professional gamer in a tournament playing against another professional, those 30-50ms really don't matter in my opinion (by professional I mean sponsored, paid, etc). I'll take quality over a insanely slight (usually unnoticable) delay any day of the week, and I consider myself a pretty hardcore gamer.


I switch from a CRT with almost 0ms input lag to my HX929 regularly, and really the difference is... sooooo minor even with LD on Standard.

Hi Tyrindor,

I know this thread is getting old and your comment was ages ago, but I have just now purchased a Sony HX920 and am concerned about this input-lag issue..
I had a Samsung Series-9 with Full-array LED backlighting before and did not even know what input lag was so I cannot compare. Now that I have been surfing all these forums about the Sony HX92 series I have started to find stuff I dont like to hear..
My question to you is;
Do you still stand by your comment you made back in 2011 about input lag? That you cannot seem to feel the difference to playing on an old CRT? And your FPS-Friend also said he had no problems playing on your HX929?

I would love to hear your answer now that you have had the TV since 2011.
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