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post #14941 of 15540
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

I haven't noticed or am simply not looking for DSE. My primary concerns were uniformity (flashlighting) and motion performance in gaming, so I am over the moon with how good this set is. And from what I have read in other post from LG to Samsung it is widespread not just Sony. I think I can live with some DSE for sure.

Yea same here. The DSE is really the only thing messing up the perfect experience.
The uniformity and also the fast performance in GAME-Mode is fantastic. The general picture quality and black levels are amazing. No light-bleeding or clouding even with LED-Controll disabled. Very good panel, except for the damn DSE.. I'll just have to train my brain to ignore this when the camera pans over a sky or desert... ;-)
Keep on enjoying this awesome TV!
post #14942 of 15540
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Originally Posted by DaMac78 View Post

Yea same here. The DSE is really the only thing messing up the perfect experience.
The uniformity and also the fast performance in GAME-Mode is fantastic. The general picture quality and black levels are amazing. No light-bleeding or clouding even with LED-Controll disabled. Very good panel, except for the damn DSE.. I'll just have to train my brain to ignore this when the camera pans over a sky or desert... ;-)
Keep on enjoying this awesome TV!
Thanks and will do. Deadspace has never looked as glorious!
post #14943 of 15540
They got this set at my hh gregg for 2098 for the 55" floor model.
post #14944 of 15540
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

Thanks and will do. Deadspace has never looked as glorious!

Deadspace looks fantastic on this set!
Did have to crank up the brightness on both TV and Console-settings though. (XBox360)
Set the HDMI on the Xbox to" Expanded" output and the brightness on the TV about 65-70 then also slided the brightness up a little more in the DeadSpace game settings.
Default is much to dark. Was also messing with the Gamma settings, but ended up just leaving it at 0 again.
At the moment I am playing in Standard GAME mode and the only thing I changed from the default is the brightness.
Edited by DaMac78 - 1/31/13 at 7:07am
post #14945 of 15540
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Originally Posted by Danediz View Post

They got this set at my hh gregg for 2098 for the 55" floor model.

Thats about the right price for a new HX929. If it was a floor model on display, I think he could definately knock off some more for you.
I paid $2120 for a new one in unopened original packing including 2 3D-Glasses.
post #14946 of 15540
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Originally Posted by DaMac78 View Post

Thats about the right price for a new HX929. If it was a floor model on display, I think he could definately knock off some more for you.
I paid $2120 for a new one in unopened original packing including 2 3D-Glasses.

Where can i find such a deal may i ask ????
post #14947 of 15540
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Originally Posted by DaMac78 View Post

Deadspace looks fantastic on this set!
Did have to crank up the brightness on both TV and Console-settings though. (XBox360)
Set the HDMI on the Xbox to" Expanded" output and the brightness on the TV about 65-70 then also slided the brightness up a little more in the DeadSpace game settings.
Default is much to dark. Was also messing with the Gamma settings, but ended up just leaving it at 0 again.
At the moment I am playing in Standard GAME mode and the only thing I changed from the default is the brightness.
I am actually running this thing on custom/cinema settings. I have calibrated with the WOW disc and am quite happy with my settings. In most cases I have to turn the in game brightness down because it is a little too bright.
post #14948 of 15540
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Originally Posted by DaMac78 View Post

Thats about the right price for a new HX929. If it was a floor model on display, I think he could definately knock off some more for you.
I paid $2120 for a new one in unopened original packing including 2 3D-Glasses.

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Originally Posted by bullpuss View Post

Where can i find such a deal may i ask ????

I would guess DaMac78 purchased at that price before Sonys sure pricing went into affect. Now retailers cannot sell below what price Sony sets.
post #14949 of 15540
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Originally Posted by bullpuss View Post

Where can i find such a deal may i ask ????

In Switzerland! :-)
post #14950 of 15540
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

I am actually running this thing on custom/cinema settings. I have calibrated with the WOW disc and am quite happy with my settings. In most cases I have to turn the in game brightness down because it is a little too bright.

Interesting.. But are you playing in a customised GAME scene?
If you do not play in GAME-Mode you will get terrible input-lag..
The dedicated GAME-SCENE is there especially for gaming to reduce the input lag to a minimum. It disables all the bells and whistles this TV has to offer including dynamic backlight LED. Also sets the IPS Quality to "fast" instead of "Quality".
I cannot play in normal mode cause the input-lag is way to slow..
post #14951 of 15540
Cautionary tale:

Knocked my TDG-BR750 3D glasses about 4 feet off one of my rear speakers where I had set them down. They fell on to carpet and one of the lens cracked.

Not that I am really complaining, it sucks but I did drop them. However, in this age where I am used to much better durability from my electronic devices, I really didn't expect them to crack in such a pitiful fall. Word of warning to treat them with a little more caution. Now I have to go drop another $100 on another pair because they are so damn cool and light.
post #14952 of 15540
I have a (maybe) little bit odd question, but hope some of you guys can help me further.
I have the XBR 46HX929 TV for about a year now. But I'm moving back to europe, (Netherlands to be precise). Now I would like to bring along this baby as its still brand new.

I have been looking around to see if it will work on the european power (230volt 50hz.). Officially sony specs tell me that it only accepts 110volt 60hz. and a turndown converter will only bring back the volt to 110 and not the frequency.

However I have found that it might be possible that sony uses just one type of powerboard for all their tvs, and accepting both 110volt and 230volt inputs internally. Does anyone now about that?
Look at this part for example: http://www.tvpartsguy.com/servlet/the-6606/SONY-XBR-dsh-46HX929-G5-POWER/Detail
One of the images clearly shows that it accepts 100-230volt and both 50 and 60hz inputs. But Sony wouldn't tell me which powerboard my TV has. I am thinking of opening the unit and see for my self.

Another question would be, is there a possiblity to update the TV with European firmware? But my guess would be that it can generate problems with the tuner. I don't really need the internal tuner as I will hookup a external satelite tuner through HDMI.

edit:
I came across this post:
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Originally Posted by Bytehoven View Post

www.blanca.com/HT/XBR55929.pdf


Not sure if this has been posted before, but here is the service manual for the HX929.


Thank you Rob Mcdonough at Sony I can not leave this file up for very long, so grab it while you can. Send me a PM if you read this in the future.


Enjoy


RJ

...
Thanks Bythoven!! This supplied me with the part number. 1-474-308-11. Still no real answer on the power input in the service manual. But it already helps a bit.
Edited by swestland - 2/1/13 at 2:17am
post #14953 of 15540
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Originally Posted by Datacide View Post

Cautionary tale:

Knocked my TDG-BR750 3D glasses about 4 feet off one of my rear speakers where I had set them down. They fell on to carpet and one of the lens cracked.

Not that I am really complaining, it sucks but I did drop them. However, in this age where I am used to much better durability from my electronic devices, I really didn't expect them to crack in such a pitiful fall. Word of warning to treat them with a little more caution. Now I have to go drop another $100 on another pair because they are so damn cool and light.
Oh what a bummer! Well, maybe keep them in a box somewhere safe next time :-)

Please tell me, are these glasses worth getting over the standard BR250s?
Is it just the comfort or is the 3D quality also better? Thx for sharing.
post #14954 of 15540
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Originally Posted by swestland View Post

I have a (maybe) little bit odd question, but hope some of you guys can help me further.
I have the XBR 46HX929 TV for about a year now. But I'm moving back to europe, (Netherlands to be precise). Now I would like to bring along this baby as its still brand new.

I have been looking around to see if it will work on the european power (230volt 50hz.). Officially sony specs tell me that it only accepts 110volt 60hz. and a turndown converter will only bring back the volt to 110 and not the frequency.

However I have found that it might be possible that sony uses just one type of powerboard for all their tvs, and accepting both 110volt and 230volt inputs internally. Does anyone now about that?
Look at this part for example: http://www.tvpartsguy.com/servlet/the-6606/SONY-XBR-dsh-46HX929-G5-POWER/Detail
One of the images clearly shows that it accepts 100-230volt and both 50 and 60hz inputs. But Sony wouldn't tell me which powerboard my TV has. I am thinking of opening the unit and see for my self.

Another question would be, is there a possiblity to update the TV with European firmware? But my guess would be that it can generate problems with the tuner. I don't really need the internal tuner as I will hookup a external satelite tuner through HDMI.

edit:
I came across this post:
Thanks Bythoven!! This supplied me with the part number. 1-474-308-11. Still no real answer on the power input in the service manual. But it already helps a bit.
Hmm this is a tough question to answer and be 100% sure about.
I have a swiss model (HX-920) and the power is marked at the back of the TV. See my attached picture of the markings.
This one would not work in the US.
Also, the US has NTSC and most of Europe has the PAL System. In general I dont think its a good idea to use a US-Set in Europe, but I'm sure its sad for you to part with it.

Hope this helps.
post #14955 of 15540
I got mine on Amazon for approx $61

Just checked they are now $128.00 holy
Edited by IMRIZZO - 2/1/13 at 10:07am
post #14956 of 15540
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Originally Posted by DaMac78 View Post

Interesting.. But are you playing in a customised GAME scene?
If you do not play in GAME-Mode you will get terrible input-lag..
The dedicated GAME-SCENE is there especially for gaming to reduce the input lag to a minimum. It disables all the bells and whistles this TV has to offer including dynamic backlight LED. Also sets the IPS Quality to "fast" instead of "Quality".
I cannot play in normal mode cause the input-lag is way to slow..
I haven't experienced input lag myself. I am playing Borderlands 2 as well and this thing is a champ. I can't do game mode, the set is more susceptible to motion trailing in game mode. I can't handle trailing.
post #14957 of 15540
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

I haven't experienced input lag myself. I am playing Borderlands 2 as well and this thing is a champ. I can't do game mode, the set is more susceptible to motion trailing in game mode. I can't handle trailing.

The trailing is filtered because you have motion-flow activated. I know it looks nice and smooth this way, but trust me - the input lag is there. Motion-Flow is one of the main reasons it reacts so slow to input. Try playing a fast shooter like Call of Duty or Gears of War: if you make a move in general mode, the reaction time from controller to screen is much slower than in game-mode.
Before reading these forums I did not even know about input-lag.. But after reading about it and testing, I can assure you it is there. The set is very responsive in game-scene and I love using it for shooters. Enjoy!
post #14958 of 15540
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Originally Posted by DaMac78 View Post

Oh what a bummer! Well, maybe keep them in a box somewhere safe next time :-)

Please tell me, are these glasses worth getting over the standard BR250s?
Is it just the comfort or is the 3D quality also better? Thx for sharing.

I do store them safely when not in use, I put them down for a minute to go get a drink.

They are amazingly light and I think there is slightly better performance out of them. I wear them a lot though, so comfort is important to me. They also don't feel like goggles since they don't have frames on the bottom.

As an aside, if anyone is in Canada and looking for more glasses, I just picked up a pair of the PS3 glasses on clearance at ToyRUs for $29. They are maybe my least favourite model (though my wife actually prefers them overall), but for $29 I couldn't pass up getting them for guests.
post #14959 of 15540
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

I got mine on Amazon for approx $61

Just checked they are now $128.00 holy

Wow! $61! I've never seen them around here for less than $100. You Americans get all the breaks. smile.gif
post #14960 of 15540
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

I haven't experienced input lag myself. I am playing Borderlands 2 as well and this thing is a champ. I can't do game mode, the set is more susceptible to motion trailing in game mode. I can't handle trailing.

Motion trailing? I've never seen anything of the sorts in the Game Scene. Are you just getting that in Borderlands 2? I haven't played it yet, but I've played close to 25 games to completion since getting my set on a variety of machines but most on PC. There is definitely input lag outside of the Game Scene settings. I've had nothing but an amazing experience with the Game Scene.

To each their own of course, but you are getting input lag if you are using General/Cinema/etc. You can certainly adjust yourself to input lag, but I think the lag difference within Game Scene is pretty substantial.
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Originally Posted by Datacide View Post

Motion trailing? I've never seen anything of the sorts in the Game Scene. Are you just getting that in Borderlands 2? I haven't played it yet, but I've played close to 25 games to completion since getting my set on a variety of machines but most on PC. There is definitely input lag outside of the Game Scene settings. I've had nothing but an amazing experience with the Game Scene.

To each their own of course, but you are getting input lag if you are using General/Cinema/etc. You can certainly adjust yourself to input lag, but I think the lag difference within Game Scene is pretty substantial.
I've played on everything from rear projection, CRT and this isn't the worse I have seen. You're right I probably adapted to the lag,but it wasn't that noticible. I am a slower paced gamer RPG, Resident Evil, Deadspace......don't do a lot of FPS. I will take a little lag for better PQ.
Edited by Dr.Shankenstein - 2/2/13 at 10:59am
post #14962 of 15540
Hello, I have a chance to buy a 55 HX929 for $1800 at a retail store. It has been on display for approx. 1 year but he is going to throw in a 5 year warrantee. Do you think this would be a good buy? Thanks
post #14963 of 15540
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Originally Posted by montana girl View Post

Hello, I have a chance to buy a 55 HX929 for $1800 at a retail store. It has been on display for approx. 1 year but he is going to throw in a 5 year warrantee. Do you think this would be a good buy? Thanks


5 year warranty very good...........did you check the tv out for any scratches/damage, and try to get them to play a movie with some dark scenes to check for picture quality....eg. banding and haloing if possible before pulling the trigger. $1500. 00 would be a better deal, but because you cant find these anymore it might be worth it. just my 2 cents my friend.
post #14964 of 15540
Your advantage is in knowing what, if any, anomaly's it may have.
post #14965 of 15540
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Originally Posted by montana girl View Post

Hello, I have a chance to buy a 55 HX929 for $1800 at a retail store. It has been on display for approx. 1 year but he is going to throw in a 5 year warrantee. Do you think this would be a good buy? Thanks

For me, a TV that has been on display is a absolute no go, not even for half price.
Unless it was standing in a protected place where the thousands of uncareful hands could not touch and mess with it every day for a year.. It would also depend if it was on display powered up or turned off. Imagine it was running every day for a year.. Thats allot of hours!
If you dont care that much about those things, try to get it down to 1500$ max. Anything more than that is too much.
post #14966 of 15540
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Originally Posted by DaMac78 View Post

Hmm this is a tough question to answer and be 100% sure about.
I have a swiss model (HX-920) and the power is marked at the back of the TV. See my attached picture of the markings.
This one would not work in the US.
Also, the US has NTSC and most of Europe has the PAL System. In general I dont think its a good idea to use a US-Set in Europe, but I'm sure its sad for you to part with it.

Hope this helps.
Yeah its hard to answer. My backplate tells me it is US spec (110v 60hz). My only answer will be to open it and see what the powerboard tells me. I think Im going to do that next week.
post #14967 of 15540
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Originally Posted by DaMac78 View Post

For me, a TV that has been on display is a absolute no go, not even for half price.
Unless it was standing in a protected place where the thousands of uncareful hands could not touch and mess with it every day for a year.. It would also depend if it was on display powered up or turned off. Imagine it was running every day for a year.. Thats allot of hours!
If you dont care that much about those things, try to get it down to 1500$ max. Anything more than that is too much.

I learned that lesson today. My HX929 seemed to be speeding up and slowing down while gaming. It was visibly skipping frames while playing (not in game frame rate issue) like the interpolation was engaging and disengaging on the fly. Today while playing the set blinked off the red light began flashing. I was able to unplug and get running again, but upon doing so the set was left with a green cast over the entire screen. I took some pics of an all white picture to show you, don't mind the vertical line they are the scanning backlight. The other were the sets main menu it would actually make more pronounced.




post #14968 of 15540
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Originally Posted by mccunersxve View Post

55HX929 is available for preorder on Amazon - if looks could kill.......it looks stunning! I might get it for my bedroom instead of waiting for the 65HX929 for my living room - sooo tempting6.gif

I think you are posting this about 1.5 years too late.
post #14969 of 15540
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

I think you are posting this about 1.5 years too late.
Lol yah I was hoping it was real so I could get one!
post #14970 of 15540
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Originally Posted by mccunersxve View Post

55HX929 is available for preorder on Amazon - if looks could kill.......it looks stunning! I might get it for my bedroom instead of waiting for the 65HX929 for my living room - sooo tempting6.gif

Either you live in the past, or you are spamming this Forum..
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