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post #481 of 15539
After coming into the market this year for a LED/LCD and reading for hours and looking at pictures and all the problems that seem to be present with this years LED models, I personally felt no choice other than to go plasma. Not something I wanted to do at all, but given all the facts and the severely inflated pricing for all these sets,I dont see why many more of you potential buyers wouldn't too. I have never owned a plasma ever but it seems like in a plasma you are getting the best product on the consumer level market this year, and with plasma you know what issues plasma tv's have and outside of defect it seems to currently be the much better choice. If I had my way I would have had a UN55D8000 this year, with the 55HX929 as my fallback option. I do prefer Samsung over Sony and yes I'm fully aware of all the benefits of a full array back light but that itself doesn't correct all the flaws of an edge lit sets, not to mention the extra issues that come into play on full array back lit sets. I just see LED as having too many issues in general right now to even think about buying one.
Yes I know they are decent and really fall into the acceptable category, but not for a premium product with a high premium price tag. Lets face it, if you dished out $3500-$5000 for one of these and had the issues that many are reporting, wouldn't you regret that? I know I would that's why I chose to prevent the possibility of that situation and went with the better bang for your buck plasma is time around. I'm a newer member here but spend hours each day mostly lurking in the background to educate about these mostly flagship models. I'm interested in top notch brands and how they improve or fail on several aspects of TV quality and these 2011 sets in my opinion they just come up short of expectation and fall big time short on bang for your buck quality.
post #482 of 15539
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Originally Posted by akadennis View Post


I went to sonystyle last night in jersey and saw it up close. i must say it is a beautiful TV. Kinda hard to judge picture quality with all the other tv going off and all the light reflections they have going on in there. One thing I will say was that they only only received 3 and one was on display so only 2 for sale. None sold when I was there last night. I was ready to buy one but was told they could not deliver from their site for next day delivery. They told me I could take it home from the store if I had room in my vehicle which off course I did not. So I called my brother who has room in his truck. anyway to make a long story short I did not buy it because they could not even throw in a free pair of glasses. the best they could do was 20% off glasses. I was like cmon, im spending 3800 bucks (suggested retail) which you know eventually this will go down and with all these other bundles you got going on here thats the best you can do? so i just walked out of there. Think I will wait a little longer. I also think quantity is limited to sonystyle.com at this point and stores will get just a few, i mean if sonystyle retail only got 2 how many would my local best buy get?

That really sucks! I'm lucky as I've got a 20% discount voucher to use on the TV and any AV accessories I get with it!

On the glasses front I believe it is the new glasses that come free with it!?
post #483 of 15539
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Originally Posted by Allan1paxton View Post

That really sucks! I'm lucky as I've got a 20% discount voucher to use on the TV and any AV accessories I get with it!

On the glasses front I believe it is the new glasses that come free with it!?

No, it does not come with any glasses which is why I tried to get them to throw in a pair

See It All in 3D Enjoy incredible depth and a sharp, Full HD 1080p picture from the leader in 3D
technology. (3D Active Glasses required, sold separately)

This is part of the marketing specs

Someone asked if it came with glasses and I don't think anyone answered.
post #484 of 15539
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Originally Posted by akadennis View Post


No, it does not come with any glasses which is why I tried to get them to throw in a pair

See It All in 3D Enjoy incredible depth and a sharp, Full HD 1080p picture from the leader in 3D
technology. (3D Active Glasses required, sold separately)

This is part of the marketing specs

Someone asked if it came with glasses and I don't think anyone answered.

I thought the big thing with this set is that it was coming with 2 pairs of glasses!?! Or is that just Europe!?

If it doesn't come with glasses I won't be getting the Sony ones I read about a really good set of third party ones!..the name escapes me at the moment!
post #485 of 15539
To any forum members that live in Toronto, (or around it) I just visited a "Sony Style" near where I live at Eglinton/Laird. They are getting 4 Sony 46HX929 units on Monday.

Prices: 46" - $3199
55" - $3999
post #486 of 15539
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Originally Posted by ForzaItalia8 View Post

To any forum members that live in Toronto, (or around it) I just visited a "Sony Style" near where I live at Eglinton/Laird. They are getting 4 Sony 46HX929 units on Monday.

Prices: 46" - $3199
55" - $3999


holy moly that is a lot of money...i am waiting for my nx720, i am real curious to talk to someone who has seen both the x reality vs x reality pro and upscaling etc
post #487 of 15539
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Originally Posted by randys1 View Post

holy moly that is a lot of money...i am waiting for my nx720, i am real curious to talk to someone who has seen both the x reality vs x reality pro and upscaling etc

The store is in a trendy area and I wonder if they're marked up because of that. I agree that the price seems too steep.
post #488 of 15539
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Originally Posted by ForzaItalia8 View Post

To any forum members that live in Toronto, (or around it) I just visited a "Sony Style" near where I live at Eglinton/Laird. They are getting 4 Sony 46HX929 units on Monday.

Prices: 46" - $3199
55" - $3999

This pricing strategy has been around for how long now?

LOL

Anyone that bites on these new models right away, anywhere near list price is a knucklehead, and I'm not knocking the sets - they will probably perform nicely - but come on folks.
When prices historically slice in half every, single, freaking time, why on earth would anyone pony up the MSRP much less anything close to MSRP just to get one early?
post #489 of 15539
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Originally Posted by marleebrz View Post

After coming into the market this year for a LED/LCD and reading for hours and looking at pictures and all the problems that seem to be present with this years LED models, I personally felt no choice other than to go plasma. Not something I wanted to do at all, but given all the facts and the severely inflated pricing for all these sets,I dont see why many more of you potential buyers wouldn't too. I have never owned a plasma ever but it seems like in a plasma you are getting the best product on the consumer level market this year, and with plasma you know what issues plasma tv's have and outside of defect it seems to currently be the much better choice. If I had my way I would have had a UN55D8000 this year, with the 55HX929 as my fallback option. I do prefer Samsung over Sony and yes I'm fully aware of all the benefits of a full array back light but that itself doesn't correct all the flaws of an edge lit sets, not to mention the extra issues that come into play on full array back lit sets. I just see LED as having too many issues in general right now to even think about buying one.
Yes I know they are decent and really fall into the acceptable category, but not for a premium product with a high premium price tag. Lets face it, if you dished out $3500-$5000 for one of these and had the issues that many are reporting, wouldn't you regret that? I know I would that's why I chose to prevent the possibility of that situation and went with the better bang for your buck plasma is time around. I'm a newer member here but spend hours each day mostly lurking in the background to educate about these mostly flagship models. I'm interested in top notch brands and how they improve or fail on several aspects of TV quality and these 2011 sets in my opinion they just come up short of expectation and fall big time short on bang for your buck quality.

There is no "perfect" set out there and someone has a reason to prefer LED over plasma and vice versa. What plasma did you end up buying?
post #490 of 15539
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Originally Posted by Allan1paxton View Post

I thought the big thing with this set is that it was coming with 2 pairs of glasses!?! Or is that just Europe!?

If it doesn't come with glasses I won't be getting the Sony ones I read about a really good set of third party ones!..the name escapes me at the moment!

Can someone who owns this set confirm whether or not glasses are included?
post #491 of 15539
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Originally Posted by ForzaItalia8 View Post

There is no "perfect" set out there and someone has a reason to prefer LED over plasma and vice versa. What plasma did you end up buying?

PND8000. I'm still waiting for it to get here but at least I know what issues there are with Plasma's in general while I cannot say the same thing about LED's anymore. I cannot stand the thoughts of flash lighting,blooming, input lag, uniformity issues and who know's what else, so I decided to go with the older technology in Plasma. Atleast I already know that I have to be aware of it's issues such as IR and burn in, along with buzzing and the occasional flicker or slight change in brightness maybe even the odd floating black. Those are all issues that may happen but shouldn't. If they do I can more so deal with it than I could with those LED flaws. I dread the thoughts of burn in but as the user it's my responsibility to ensure that it doesn't happen and with new improvements to plasma technology it shouldn't be an issue whatsoever.
post #492 of 15539
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Originally Posted by Allan1paxton View Post

That really sucks! I'm lucky as I've got a 20% discount voucher to use on the TV and any AV accessories I get with it!

On the glasses front I believe it is the new glasses that come free with it!?

Just ordered it from Sonystyle as was able to get the 3D kit for free. Unbelievable that the retail store last night could not even do this.
post #493 of 15539
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Originally Posted by akadennis View Post

Can someone who owns this set confirm whether or not glasses are included?

I don't own it; however, the Crutchfield rep, in a chat, said they are sold separately...and they have no news on a 'bundle' kit at this time...but their pre-order pricing is less than retail, too...
post #494 of 15539
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Originally Posted by robsis View Post

I don't own it; however, the Crutchfield rep, in a chat, said they are sold separately...and they have no news on a 'bundle' kit at this time...but their pre-order pricing is less than retail, too...

thanks, already ordered it from sony. they threw in the 3d kit. should ship by 05/23/11
post #495 of 15539
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Originally Posted by marleebrz View Post

PND8000. I'm still waiting for it to get here but at least I know what issues there are with Plasma's in general while I cannot say the same thing about LED's anymore. I cannot stand the thoughts of flash lighting,blooming, input lag, uniformity issues and who know's what else, so I decided to go with the older technology in Plasma. Atleast I already know that I have to be aware of it's issues such as IR and burn in, along with buzzing and the occasional flicker or slight change in brightness maybe even the odd floating black. Those are all issues that may happen but shouldn't. If they do I can more so deal with it than I could with those LED flaws. I dread the thoughts of burn in but as the user it's my responsibility to ensure that it doesn't happen and with new improvements to plasma technology it shouldn't be an issue whatsoever.

Isn't the VT30 considered superior to the PND8000?
post #496 of 15539
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Originally Posted by marleebrz View Post

After coming into the market this year for a LED/LCD and reading for hours and looking at pictures and all the problems that seem to be present with this years LED models, I personally felt no choice other than to go plasma. Not something I wanted to do at all, but given all the facts and the severely inflated pricing for all these sets,I dont see why many more of you potential buyers wouldn't too. I have never owned a plasma ever but it seems like in a plasma you are getting the best product on the consumer level market this year, and with plasma you know what issues plasma tv's have and outside of defect it seems to currently be the much better choice. If I had my way I would have had a UN55D8000 this year, with the 55HX929 as my fallback option. I do prefer Samsung over Sony and yes I'm fully aware of all the benefits of a full array back light but that itself doesn't correct all the flaws of an edge lit sets, not to mention the extra issues that come into play on full array back lit sets. I just see LED as having too many issues in general right now to even think about buying one.
Yes I know they are decent and really fall into the acceptable category, but not for a premium product with a high premium price tag. Lets face it, if you dished out $3500-$5000 for one of these and had the issues that many are reporting, wouldn't you regret that? I know I would that's why I chose to prevent the possibility of that situation and went with the better bang for your buck plasma is time around. I'm a newer member here but spend hours each day mostly lurking in the background to educate about these mostly flagship models. I'm interested in top notch brands and how they improve or fail on several aspects of TV quality and these 2011 sets in my opinion they just come up short of expectation and fall big time short on bang for your buck quality.

Do you have a dedicated power plant for it? And don't forget to throw away any heating appliance you have in your room because you won't need it

Sorry for offtopic...
post #497 of 15539
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Originally Posted by ForzaItalia8 View Post

Isn't the VT30 considered superior to the PND8000?

From what I gather in all my readings they are very very close and neither set has ANY clear cut advantage. My choice came down to my Samsung preference over Panny and the price differential and also availability in my area.
These two sets will be so close together in performance it wouldn't have made much difference which one I bought. You still have the die hard Panny fans who try to tell you different but reality is they are very close.
post #498 of 15539
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Originally Posted by skyrma View Post

Do you have a dedicated power plant for it? And don't forget to throw away any heating appliance you have in your room because you won't need it

Sorry for offtopic...

Dude you are talking a difference of $20-$30 a year and if I couldn't afford a measly $30 I wouldn't be looking for a new tv. As far as it heating a room, I have an open chamber behind the closed in tv stand that goes into a unused area of my house so I will never really even know if it has much heat output.
post #499 of 15539
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Originally Posted by marleebrz View Post

From what I gather in all my readings they are very very close and neither set has ANY clear cut advantage. My choice came down to my Samsung preference over Panny and the price differential and also availability in my area.
These two sets will be so close together in performance it wouldn't have mad much difference which one I bought. You still have the die hard Panny fans who try to tell you different but reality is they are very close.

The PN51D8000 is about the same price as the 55GT30. Wouldn't you take the Panny to have an extra 4 inches?
post #500 of 15539
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Originally Posted by Joseph1 View Post

The PN51D8000 is about the same price as the 55GT30. Wouldn't you take the Panny to have an extra 4 inches?

It would have been something to look into but like I said I prefer the Brand name Samsung personally and these new Panny's are not available in my area yet and I'm ready to buy. I dont feel I could lose with either set. Really any upper end Sammy or Panny would do, I wanted the browser and some features on the D8000 so that aided my choice also.

I feel like I'm taking up too much space in the wrong thread all of a sudden.
Not my intentions at all so sorry to anyone who may be offended.
post #501 of 15539
Can somebody tell me if it is possible to use the NBA League Pass with the HX929? That would be a relief.
post #502 of 15539
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Originally Posted by marleebrz View Post

PND8000. I'm still waiting for it to get here but at least I know what issues there are with Plasma's in general while I cannot say the same thing about LED's anymore. I cannot stand the thoughts of flash lighting,blooming, input lag, uniformity issues and who know's what else, so I decided to go with the older technology in Plasma. Atleast I already know that I have to be aware of it's issues such as IR and burn in, along with buzzing and the occasional flicker or slight change in brightness maybe even the odd floating black. Those are all issues that may happen but shouldn't. If they do I can more so deal with it than I could with those LED flaws. I dread the thoughts of burn in but as the user it's my responsibility to ensure that it doesn't happen and with new improvements to plasma technology it shouldn't be an issue whatsoever.

Can we put the whole 'blooming' thing in perspective ?? Noticed it used in the above post and in a few places in this thread ..Let's be clear, first , 'blooming' as classically defined is NOT possible on either an LCD or a Plasma display because of how these displays work .. When I read 'blooming' , i get that it's a combination of local dimming w/ a display where the white balance has NOT been properly adjusted ..it's blown out highlights , which are controllable in any decent LCD ( or Plasma) set ..If the white balance is properly set, the backlighting or local dimming will not force blown highlights . If you don't believe this, try it using the AVS or S & M contrast charts ..set the Picture setting correctly, then adjust the backlight up an down and see if it makes a difference .. Haloing can be another story , but is only aggravated when the white balance ( for Sony , this is the 'Picture' setting) is incorrect .. Sony sets , including all XBR LCDs I've owned and played with, are very capable of being set with the correct White and Black Balances ..such that you'd only see , ugh, 'blooming' on bad content ..
post #503 of 15539
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Originally Posted by nickthenewkid24 View Post

black/contrast level and gaming video up http://www.youtube.com/user/nickthen...4?feature=mhum

Great work here. Any chance you can take a video or two of a hockey and NBA playoff game?
post #504 of 15539
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Originally Posted by snoylekim View Post

Can we put the whole 'blooming' thing in perspective ?? Noticed it used in the above post and in a few places in this thread ..Let's be clear, first , 'blooming' as classically defined is NOT possible on either an LCD or a Plasma display because of how these displays work .. When I read 'blooming' , i get that it's a combination of local dimming w/ a display where the white balance has NOT been properly adjusted ..it's blown out highlights , which are controllable in any decent LCD ( or Plasma) set ..If the white balance is properly set, the backlighting or local dimming will not force blown highlights . If you don't believe this, try it using the AVS or S & M contrast charts ..set the Picture setting correctly, then adjust the backlight up an down and see if it makes a difference .. Haloing can be another story , but is only aggravated when the white balance ( for Sony , this is the 'Picture' setting) is incorrect .. Sony sets , including all XBR LCDs I've owned and played with, are very capable of being set with the correct White and Black Balances ..such that you'd only see , ugh, 'blooming' on bad content ..

have not noticed any "blooming" on my set whatsoever thus far. only minor flashlighting issue that I corrected with my set by tweaking some settings as discussed earlier in this thread.
post #505 of 15539
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Originally Posted by paranoyd androyd View Post

Great work here. Any chance you can take a video or two of a hockey and NBA playoff game?

there may be copyright issues with that... but I may be able to put short clip up there for you. I can say though I was watching spurs vs. grizzlies yesterday streaming through ESPN 3 and it looked fantastic with great motion.
post #506 of 15539
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Originally Posted by nickthenewkid24 View Post

there may be copyright issues with that... but I may be able to put short clip up there for you. I can say though I was watching spurs vs. grizzlies yesterday streaming through ESPN 3 and it looked fantastic with great motion.

nick we don't need you to show us the whole game LOL , just enough to see fast action, thanks lol
post #507 of 15539
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Originally Posted by ahwig60 View Post

nick we don't need you to show us the whole game LOL , just enough to see fast action, thanks lol

lol alright then I shall work on that soon. will post link when up.
post #508 of 15539
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Originally Posted by nickthenewkid24 View Post
have not noticed any "blooming" on my set whatsoever thus far. only minor flashlighting issue that I corrected with my set by tweaking some settings as discussed earlier in this thread.
..as to be expected .. I think CNET started the 'blooming' thing by saying something in the HX909 review ..at that point I stopped reading whatever it was .. Sounds like you have a winner ..
post #509 of 15539
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Originally Posted by nickthenewkid24 View Post
lol alright then I shall work on that soon. will post link when up.
ok good work
post #510 of 15539
some live streaming baseball action for now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER537PxM9rU
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