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post #7171 of 15169
9/29/11 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by zoetmb View Post

How do you switch between the Dolby digital and non-Dolby soundtrack of a TV channel?

There is a small audio button next to the Prog + -
You just have to press that and then it displays the language like English or German. But if you press i+ then it also shows if the language has Dolby Digital or just without. So it can happen that for example you have 2 soundtracks for the TV channel, "English" and "English Dolby Digital" of course the latter one sounds better even if just stereo.

PS: I just realised that the remote control for the US and European market looks pretty different.

European:


US:


So where we have the audio button you guys have the jump button. What does that do by the way?
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post #7172 of 15169
9/29/11 at 2:30pm
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Originally Posted by audhwang View Post

Imrizzo have you tried these settings yet? http://www.hometheater.com/content/s...d-led-lcd-hdtv

No not yet I'm going to see if I can't put those settings under CUSTOM and leave mine as STANDARD (as they were cal'd to) and be able to flip/flop picture between settings for comparison. Gotta play with it later. Anyone else notified of a firmware update today ? Did you upload it & install it yet, if so, results ? Thx Ounce of precaution rather than hours of hassling !
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post #7173 of 15169
9/29/11 at 2:40pm
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Originally Posted by Hokoo View Post

Update....

After the delivery guys left and I had re-setup my previous settings under custom and the PQ didn't look the same as before so I did some tweaking and changed to Standard and it removed the DSE I was now seeing. I adjusted the backlight up to 7 from 5 and brightness down to 50 from 61 as well as changed color temp from warm2 to neutral. I must admit the PQ looks brighter and much clearer than before. I will continue my adjustments as it seems what ever software fix that was done changed my tv.

Can you explain in more detail about your DSE experience? You had DSE, but with those setting changes it disappeared or considerably decreased?
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post #7174 of 15169
9/29/11 at 2:50pm
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Originally Posted by gbaby View Post

If I connect my blu-ray to the 929 using HDMI, how can I get the television to play Dolby Digital 5.1 through the televison's optical output connected to a processor?

You can change in the menu if you want to use the TV speakers or the amplifier. Unfortunately the TV just can push out Dolby Digital on the optical output, but it can not push out DTS which is a shame. Half of the Blu-Ray movies have that .
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post #7175 of 15169
9/29/11 at 2:54pm
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

FYI
Caution: as posted above may be problem, I'm going to holdoff accepting untill its proven not to be problematic, before I 'OK' it. IMO ?

i just applied the update and my PQ still looks great with Imrizzo settings!
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post #7176 of 15169
9/29/11 at 2:59pm
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Originally Posted by mishari84 View Post

best review and the best settings so far

thanks very much

I haven't tried those settings yet but take into consideration these panels are shipped with hardware and software installed assembly line style so the pre-set settings may not always be the same. So in some cases these setting may not be "spot-on" when I tried CNET's settings I stepped back and looked (not impressed) ran it for a few days to see if it will burn itself in, still NG, but yet there are people who swear by those settings, so basically it's all relative, It doesn't hurt to try, but be sure you makes notes of your present setting (just in case)

The best way to achieve MAXIMUM PQ is via Professional ISF/THX certified Technion, like D-nice, K. Miller, Ed Johnson, Chad & others, to drain out that last bit of perfection out, but sometimes when properly calibrated it becomes so accurate it's boring, it just looks like it's lost its Zip, if ya know what I mean. But a good professional calibrator well set, your set, up to its max and also make any adjustments to make you happy (pop it a little)

NOTE: HTM review Pre-disclaimer:

Settings

Unit-to-unit sample variations, the viewing environment, and the source might render these recommendations less than optimum. They are provided only as a potentially useful starting place.
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post #7177 of 15169
9/29/11 at 2:59pm
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Originally Posted by brad4221 View Post

Does the 929 -digital out to receiver- produce 5.1 audio?

If your TV channel or disc player over HDMI has Dolby Digital 5.1 soundtrack, then the TV can pass it on to the digital audio receiver. So all it can do is passthrough the source audio, if 5.1 then 5.1
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post #7178 of 15169
9/29/11 at 3:03pm
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Originally Posted by JAMTUFF View Post

I just posted this about a day ago so not many people have tried but i expect some good results kinda like what i got.

PS:
Someone start a thread over what panel is installed in your set, once you get into SM that information is displayed first screen at the bottom part. I know sometimes its a Samsung (LTxxx) and othertimes its Sony S-LCD (SQL or FQL). Sony panels had less manufacturing artifacts over samsung ie banding, clouding etc (NO PANEL IS 100% PERFECT)


I don't have the "crease" problem. Or if I do I can't see it. Was curious so I got into the service mode. Very bottom left was "FQLF55ODTO101". Is this the Sony panel?? (I hope). My build date is August.....
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post #7179 of 15169
9/29/11 at 3:13pm
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Originally Posted by DiNoise View Post

Hello friends, I'm new to this forum, but I've been reading it for a while.
I got my HX929 46in in June and I enjoyed it since then.
But the only thing that keeps bothering me is remote control lag that happens most of the time. I've searched this thread and google but nothing except for game input lag shows up.
So most of the time when I press on any remote button (channel, volume, input, etc) TV lags before it executes the action, sometimes it doesn't even do anything and I have to press several times. I checked the firmware and its up to date.
Is my remote just bad or is my TV defective? Anybody else experienced this?
Should I call Sony support for this?
Thanks!

Maybe you should try with new batteries. The only time I feel the TV is not responsive to the remote controll buttons is right after I turn on the TV. In the first 20-30 secs, nothing happens when I press the direct channel buttons 1-9. But volume and Prog - + work. After about 20 secs it gives the message on the screen that Skype signed in and HDD was registered. After that everything is fine, even direct channel buttons work.

When I preess OPTIONS or HOME it can take up to 1-2 secs to load which is I think is slow. This TV has a strong panel, CPU, so it shouldnt take the TV to load the OPTIONS or home Menu for 1-2 secs. So there is definetely room for software improvment. We will see if they address these issues in the future software upgrades.
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post #7180 of 15169
9/29/11 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by CygnusX2112 View Post

I don't have the "crease" problem. Or if I do I can't see it. Was curious so I got into the service mode. Very bottom left was "FQLF55ODTO101". Is this the Sony panel?? (I hope). My build date is August.....

If ya can't see it, then stop looking, it becomes an obsessivecompulsivedisorder. " I think I see it' if I get really close like 10-12" and at a sharp angle from the side on certain colors when the screens bright ! thats the way I watch TV myself 10" away & off at an extreme angle. ? Under realistic viewing its not visible and if you do have this problem it will be quite evident and obvious ! But it is like any other manufactured product (there's variances and consistences that create minor variations and an occasional Whoops !!) productionline variances.
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post #7181 of 15169
9/29/11 at 3:49pm
How do you translate this to the European remote control?

1. Turn tv OFF wait 5sec then sequentialy press:
2. Display
3. 5
4. Volume UP
5. Power ON

THEN SEQUENTIALY:

PRESS 1
THEN 2
THEN 0 (This takes you into VIDEO adjustments- WHITE level)
THEN ENTER
THEN ENTER

ADJUST SETTINGS 0(darkest)-10(whitest) HERE ELIMINATE CREASE IF VISSIBLE ALSO AFFECTS CONTRAST IN A VERY POSITIVE WAY.
THEN ENTER (your screen will turn completely WHITE/DARK according to your entry) RETURN TAKES YOU BACK TO PREVIOUS SCREEN)

THEN TO SAVE SETTINGS:

PRESS "JUMP"
THEN "MUTING"
THEN "0"
THIS WRITES/SAVES ALL YOUR SETTINGS IN THE SM (WRITE WILL MOMENTARY TURN RED AS IT SAVES YOUR SETTINGS)
TURN TV OFF
YOUR (SETTINGS ARE SAVED)
YOU CAN NOW TURN IT BACK ON
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post #7182 of 15169
9/29/11 at 6:03pm
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

I haven't tried those settings yet but take into consideration these panels are shipped with hardware and software installed assembly line style so the pre-set settings may not always be the same. So in some cases these setting may not be "spot-on" when I tried CNET's settings I stepped back and looked (not impressed) ran it for a few days to see if it will burn itself in, still NG, but yet there are people who swear by those settings, so basically it's all relative, It doesn't hurt to try, but be sure you makes notes of your present setting (just in case)

The best way to achieve MAXIMUM PQ is via Professional ISF/THX certified Technion, like D-nice, K. Miller, Ed Johnson, Chad & others, to drain out that last bit of perfection out, but sometimes when properly calibrated it becomes so accurate it's boring, it just looks like it's lost its Zip, if ya know what I mean. But a good professional calibrator well set, your set, up to its max and also make any adjustments to make you happy (pop it a little)

NOTE: HTM review Pre-disclaimer:

Settings

Unit-to-unit sample variations, the viewing environment, and the source might render these recommendations less than optimum. They are provided only as a potentially useful starting place.

i think the variation of unit to unit is minimal if there is any, and people opinion on different settings is subjective even on the same set.
my opinion based after trying CNET which has too much contrast and yellowish tent, and Akaddensis settings which was more accurate but dim

i think this setting can satisfy all the family due to the accurate picture without being too dim as the other settings, therefor no need to convince them that they have to adapt to the dim picture because it is more professional
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post #7183 of 15169
9/29/11 at 6:46pm
This set has been out since March and there is NO ONE that had their set professionally calibrated? If so please list your settings so we can compare!
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post #7184 of 15169
9/29/11 at 7:00pm
Well, I called Sony support and there is no way to go back to the previous firmware. Once you update you are pretty much stuck is what I was told. I can have a local service person look at it but I am sure that will not do any good.
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post #7185 of 15169
9/29/11 at 7:05pm
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Originally Posted by NY350Z View Post

Well, I called Sony support and there is no way to go back to the previous firmware. Once you update you are pretty much stuck is what I was told. I can have a local service person look at it but I am sure that will not do any good.

That sux, did you try going into setting and restore to default save it yurn off set wait a few minutes hopefully restore to default works. Then reapply settings. worth a try.
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post #7186 of 15169
9/29/11 at 7:12pm
[quote=CygnusX2112;21018003]I don't have the "crease" problem. Or if I do I can't see it. Was curious so I got into the service mode. Very bottom left was "FQLF55ODTO101". Is this the Sony panel?? (I hope). My build date is August.....[/QU

Sony S-LCD PANEL

KDL55HX929 PANEL "FQLF550DT0101" S-LCD
KDL55HX820 PANEL "FQLL550LT0101" S-LCD July build (initialy creased now removed after WHITE level setting now RIDICULOUSLY super clear plus incredible blacks, color, contrast and shadow detail). Even better after software update this afternoon.
Will post on new exchange panel-literary panel will be swapped at my place. But after new update on old panel and after WHITE level settings NO CREASE. Dont know if i still want the exchange with panel coming this week this picture jus blows me away man.
............................................................ ...keep adding..........................

BTW NY350Z: New firmware improved my PQ again about 50% more better. Just try the WHITE level setting.

SERVICE MODE FOR UK IS THE SAME JUST MAKE SURE "TV" IS SELECTED "DISPLAY" BUTTON IS THE BUTTON WITH "?" MARK NEXT TO IT AND "JUMP"="AUDIO" BUTTON. TO ENTER SM TURN TV OFF AFTER WATCHING FOR 5MINS+ THEN ENTER SM AFTER WAITING NO MORE THAN 5 SECONDS

PICS DONT DO JUSTICE LOADED FROM DROID INCREDIBLE RES 720P COMMERCIAL SKIN TONES
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post #7187 of 15169
9/29/11 at 7:27pm
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

..., but sometimes when properly calibrated it becomes so accurate it's boring, it just looks like it's lost its Zip, if ya know what I mean. [/color][/b]

True! I had a Pioneer Elite Pro 720HD calibrated for close to $900.00, and it looked so bad, I called the calibrator at his hotel and told him to put back the original factory settings. He tried, but since he did not wright down the original factory settings he could never get it to look like it did from the factory. I never really enjoyed the television after that, but kept it for 9 years because it cost 6k new. I gave it away to the Knights of Columbus and replaced it with the 55" 929. For your info, 6500 degrees kevin is not all that great looking.
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post #7188 of 15169
9/29/11 at 7:39pm
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Originally Posted by retate View Post

My XBR-55HX929 updated firmware today to PKG3.507AAA.

Anyone know what this firmware addressed? Why is it that Sony never puts anything on their site regarding latest frimware update until weeks later.
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post #7189 of 15169
9/29/11 at 8:08pm
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Originally Posted by akadennis View Post

Anyone know what this firmware addressed? Why is it that Sony never puts anything on their site regarding latest frimware update until weeks later.

I know it has improved my PQ plus less MENU lockup

MY SETTINGS:

PICTURE MODE-SPORTS

BACKLIGHT-MAX
PICTURE-75
BRIGHTNESS-38
COLOR-68
HUE-R4
COLOR TEMP-WARM 1
SHARPNESS-50
NOISE REDUCTION-LOW
MPEG NOISE RED-LOW
DOT NOISE-LOW
REALITY-AUTO
SMOOTH GRADATION-LOW
MOTIONFLOW-STNDRD (could care less my first tv Sharp aquos 37" in 2003 i dont see any motion blur on new sets except Samsungs)
CINEMOTION-AUTO 1 (could care less my first tv Sharp aquos 37" in 2003)
BLACK CORECTOR-MEDIUM/HIGH
ADV CONTRAST-MEDIUM
GAMMA-0
LED DYNAMIC-STNDRD
AUTO LIGHT EMITER-
CLEAR WHITE-OFF
LIVE COLOR-OFF
WHITE BLNC-ALL 0
DETAIL ENHANCER-OFF
EDGE ENHANCER-OFF

WHITE LEVEL 03-05
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post #7190 of 15169
9/29/11 at 8:42pm
Since they updated their website, there have been 2 newer updates.
Maybe sound is improved !
Still wishing they would fix 3d glasses flickering
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post #7191 of 15169
9/30/11 at 2:49am
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Originally Posted by JamE55 View Post

Just been informed that the availability for the Sony XBR-65HX929 65" LCD TV has been moved to January.

Just wanted to share the info.


Exactly what is their problem?
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post #7192 of 15169
9/30/11 at 3:13am
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Originally Posted by brad4221 View Post

exactly what is their problem?

+1
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post #7193 of 15169
9/30/11 at 3:23am
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Originally Posted by brad4221 View Post

Exactly what is their problem?

Likely still earthquake/tsunami supply issues and/or yield problems for the 65" panels and/or Gorilla Glass.

For example, Toyota is just now getting production back to where it was.
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post #7194 of 15169
9/30/11 at 4:55am
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Originally Posted by gbaby View Post

Using the optical out would be defeating my purpose. The specs on the 929 states its optical outs will play Dolby Digital 5.1. On my XBR8 in my bedroom, all sources are connected to the televison through HDMI. If a source carries a Dolby Digial signal, my processor displays and play Dolby Digital 5.1. However, on the 929, I am only getting 2 channel from 5.1 source even though the source, itself indicates its outputting 5.1 Dolby Digital. I don't want to use optical on my processor for different sources and have to change the input on the receiver for each source. If everything is connected to the television, you only have one source, the optical out on the television going to one source on your precessor or receiver. So the 929 should output Dolby Digital 5.1 just like the xbr8 when a 5.1 Dolby Digital signal is being played.

i want to do the same.... hook everything up with hdmi and audio out to my receiver with optical out.. but i get pcm not dolbly digital idk maybe its my receiver but i tried everything
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post #7195 of 15169
9/30/11 at 5:21am
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Originally Posted by akadennis View Post


Anyone know what this firmware addressed? Why is it that Sony never puts anything on their site regarding latest frimware update until weeks later.

Is there any reason why I should not install this update? I think I read a post someone trying 2 revert to a previous firmware. Sorry if the answer is in this thread, little difficult to navigate from phone
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post #7196 of 15169
9/30/11 at 5:50am
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Originally Posted by akadennis View Post

Is there any reason why I should not install this update? I think I read a post someone trying 2 revert to a previous firmware. Sorry if the answer is in this thread, little difficult to navigate from phone

i just updated and went great no problems at all
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post #7197 of 15169
9/30/11 at 6:32am
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Originally Posted by sangean View Post

Can you explain in more detail about your DSE experience? You had DSE, but with those setting changes it disappeared or considerably decreased?

Yes once I changed Custom to Standard my picture instantly got clear and brighter. The DSE I was seeing was a very washed out look where only certain channels and shows looked good (espn, cnn, hbo for example) and sports looked bad.

This tv is very very picky and each user needs to find there own comfort lvl and adjust the settings to there own liking. The settings being passed around in this forum are a great starting point for new users, just keep tweaking the many many settings until you like what you see.
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post #7198 of 15169
9/30/11 at 7:40am
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Originally Posted by brad4221 View Post

Exactly what is their problem?

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Originally Posted by Razor Time View Post

+1

They won't disclose it. But if i were to guess it's probably because or parts?
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post #7199 of 15169
9/30/11 at 7:46am
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Originally Posted by kucharsk View Post

Likely still earthquake/tsunami supply issues and/or yield problems for the 65" panels and/or Gorilla Glass.

For example, Toyota is just now getting production back to where it was.

Hi.I'm french and i I ordered the 65HX920 two weeks ago.I saw my dealer today and 65HX920 arrives October 31.The manager of the store even announced: "maybe October 15" ...
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post #7200 of 15169
9/30/11 at 8:10am
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Originally Posted by JamE55 View Post

They won't disclose it. But if i were to guess it's probably because or parts?

Whatever the delay, hopefully they made use of the time and have addressed what ever 'fail' problems, crease, etc. before it hits the street. I have heard "grapevine" style that the working PQ is nothing short of WOW !!

cons weak sound
...... and $$$$$$$ worth it, no doubt about it.
Affordable ......questionable (but, so are all the BIG SIZES, afterall SIZE is everything !!
But this set is aimed at the higher end of the market not a lot of people are going to jump on this set unless they consider themselves Videophiles and a true Videophiles would be watching and Listening through a home theater setup and not expecting the "full Impact experience". I just hope that when it does Debut is 'at it's Best'.
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