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post #8851 of 15169
^use a PC with an all black screen and use the pointer to count the zones...the pointer provides just enough light to delineate each zone
post #8852 of 15169
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Originally Posted by topr View Post

^use a PC with an all black screen and use the pointer to count the zones...the pointer provides just enough light to delineate each zone

As you move the cursor over each zone you should be able to detect a slight blooming in that particular zone. A count of column and row should allow for a very close estimate...
post #8853 of 15169
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Originally Posted by leftyguitar1963 View Post

starting this morning thru next friday, fry's has the 55-929 <2900.
http://www.frys.com/ads/page6

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Originally Posted by jreeder0 View Post

US Appliance was another $600 less and with the Narnia 3D movie and 2 pairs of the 3D glasses, not sure if there are still running this. Mine was new and unopened.

I don't think we're supposed to be talking prices, so I won't mention the specific price, but check out J&R. And they are an authorized Sony dealer.
post #8854 of 15169
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

So true, but the initial shipments was sparse as will be the next shipment. And I personally believe 'Supply & Demand' will dictate final cost! I don't think there will be many offered at discounted prices til, Production and Supply increase so dealers can buy more in Bulk and then maybe discounts ??
Chris I was wondering what kinda allocations are being offered (I understand if you do not want to respond). Thx Rizz

We received a few, a couple I think I sold them for too little, but the end users are happy I bet
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post #8855 of 15169
I wonder if Sony is going to start offering a free tablet with all of their TVs - that would be nice. So far they only include it with 820 on their website - and a couple of lesser models.
At the same time, can't wait until CES to hear what new TVs are about to hit the market
post #8856 of 15169
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Originally Posted by zoetmb View Post

I don't think we're supposed to be talking prices, so I won't mention the specific price, but check out J&R. And they are an authorized Sony dealer.

fry's will match J&R's price. thanks.
post #8857 of 15169
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Originally Posted by jephjeph View Post

I tried to measure the # of local dimming zones, this is how I did it:

turn up backlight to maximum
maximize contrast, picture, etc

throw up a checkerboard pattern (0ire / 100IRE)

measure the distance of the "bloomed" area to the "dark" area, looking at about 45 degrees off axis to maximize blooming.

In no case could I see the bloom extending beyond .75", in any direction, suggesting a zone would be on average 2.25 square inches. Given this set is ~1800 square inches, that would suggest 800 zones, which I think is a very large number and unlikely to be accurate, but I don't know.

Does anyone have a better methodology to suggest?

(p.s. my 65hx929 has NO CREASE and NO DEAD or STUCK PIXELs. It is the bomb.)

put on an all black screen and move the mouse slowly from left corner to right corner and as you move slowly (better done if looking at an angle) it will sort of blink....... every blink will be a zone......do the top then the side..... mutiply them and you have your zones......thanks
post #8858 of 15169
This may have been asked already but has anyone changed from a Kuro to one of these? Feature wise the Sony wins but how about the picture quality?

I have a Pioneer 5090
post #8859 of 15169
A thread search with "Kuro" will yield plenty of results...good luck.
post #8860 of 15169
can the new 65HX929 owners divulge where they purchased their sets? from Sony direct in all cases?
post #8861 of 15169
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Originally Posted by Scurly View Post

can the new 65HX929 owners divulge where they purchased their sets? from Sony direct in all cases?

I would believe the owner who have 'sets in hand' would be Sony direct buyers. PRIORITIES, they acknowledged that at their own site.
post #8862 of 15169
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

More positive feedback regarding the Stand the 55"s were extremely wobbly, thx for the post.

The 65 stand does NOT swivel or tilt and it comes already mounted. It is very stable. The 55 stand is pretty ridiculous, it wobbles at BB as people walk by.
post #8863 of 15169
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Originally Posted by Scurly View Post

the 55: HX929 had a small black box that abnormally protruded from the back of the set. This was an RS232 for home automation systems like Control4.

Can anyone report if this box is the same on the 65"

There is a small protrusion but as the set needs to be 2-5/8" from the wall, I do not see that as an issue. The 65 does not have the extra dongle for component inputs, they are built into the back panel.
post #8864 of 15169
What's the best basic wall mount for the 55 inch?
post #8865 of 15169
Just curious, why don't they increase the number of local dimming zones by 4x or more? I though LED:s should be pretty cheap, or?
post #8866 of 15169
I am in two minds on swapping my 70" XBR2 for a 65" HX929 mainly due to the drop in screen size. In the uk the largest screen size is 65" so there really is no other option for me at this present time. So would you keep the 70" xbr2 and get a replacement optical block or go for the smaller, newer 65" hx929 (hx923 in the uk).

Any advice would be welcomed.
post #8867 of 15169
ABT pre-order. Delivered last Friday.
post #8868 of 15169
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Originally Posted by Scurly View Post

can the new 65HX929 owners divulge where they purchased their sets? from Sony direct in all cases?

Pre-ordered mine from ABT. Delivered last Friday,
post #8869 of 15169
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Originally Posted by Razor Time View Post

. So would you keep the 70" xbr2 and get a replacement optical block or go for the smaller, newer 65" hx929 (hx923 in the uk).

Any advice would be welcomed.

I originally bought the 60XBR2 because the PQ was much better than the 70 (in my opinion). The XBR65 is big enough, but you will notice a huge difference in the "cabinet" size. I would never fix an SXRD rptv. They only seem to go 1 or 2 years even with the cooling cranked to high altitude.
post #8870 of 15169
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Originally Posted by Scurly View Post

can the new 65HX929 owners divulge where they purchased their sets? from Sony direct in all cases?

I preordered my 65 from SonyStyle direct.
post #8871 of 15169
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Originally Posted by Razor Time View Post

I am in two minds on swapping my 70" XBR2 for a 65" HX929 mainly due to the drop in screen size. In the uk the largest screen size is 65" so there really is no other option for me at this present time. So would you keep the 70" xbr2 and get a replacement optical block or go for the smaller, newer 65" hx929 (hx923 in the uk).

Any advice would be welcomed.

This new XBR is an Exceptional display but it will appear much smaller than the 70" because you've got the additional width of the speaker ears so it will APPEAR much smaller, but the PQ is worth the loss of 5" of real estate.
post #8872 of 15169
So the guys at the Sony store said if they were me they'd go for the NX720 over the HX929.

I saw both side by side and I was looking for a dramatic difference and I didn't see it.
post #8873 of 15169
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Originally Posted by ½Baked View Post

There is a small protrusion but as the set needs to be 2-5/8" from the wall, I do not see that as an issue. The 65 does not have the extra dongle for component inputs, they are built into the back panel.

I just looked at the online manual via Sony's site. They do show the set needing 2 5/8 inches from the wall when on the stand.

For wall mounting they show the side, top and bottom clearance needed but they don't show anything about rear clearance. Maybe thay assume that the reader will assume that the rear clearance requirement is the same. Or maybe wall mounting allows better vertical air flow?

When I get mine, due in about 2 weeks from Sony, I'll put it on the stand at first, then get a feel for how much heat it puts out before wall mounting it. With the full rear LED array, the 2 5/8 inches may be needed.

Sanus makes several mounts that place the set less than an inch from the wall. I can't imagine any manufacturer recommending that, no matter what the backlighting setup, but I bet a lot of people do it.

Back to the original issue being discussed. That protrusion wouldn't be a problem even with a close mount.
post #8874 of 15169
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Originally Posted by royrose View Post

I just looked at the online manual via Sony's site. They do show the set needing 2 5/8 inches from the wall when on the stand.

I'll put it on the stand at first, then get a feel for how much heat it puts out before wall mounting it.

Back to the original issue being discussed. That protrusion wouldn't be a problem even with a close mount.

LED's suffer dramatically reduced life when they run hot. Not hot for the wall or even your hand from a few inches away. I would try to leave 3 inches or run a quiet muffin fan across the back if it were any closer.
post #8875 of 15169
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Originally Posted by Fjodor2000 View Post

Just curious, why don't they increase the number of local dimming zones by 4x or more? I though LED:s should be pretty cheap, or?

First of all, you don't need to increase the number of LEDs by one to increase the number of zones. There are plenty of LEDs already.

Second of all, everything costs money. More zones = more circuitry = more sophisticated software. Expensive to do? No. Free? No. Benefits? Yes. Perceived by many? Probably not.
post #8876 of 15169
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Originally Posted by Daz-man View Post

So the guys at the Sony store said if they were me they'd go for the NX720 over the HX929.

I saw both side by side and I was looking for a dramatic difference and I didn't see it.

If you were watching in a bright store watching bright material you won't notice a difference. Try watching something dark like a Harry Potter film and see the difference. Also when you watch in the dark it will be a HUGE difference, especially on darker material.
post #8877 of 15169
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We received a few, a couple I think I sold them for too little, but the end users are happy I bet.

Exceedingly happy, Chris. Thank you. No doubt, you were more than fair and it is most appreciated. Far as I'm concerned, it's a no-brainer for anyone pining for one of these bad boys to contact you before they purchase anywhere else. You made the process simple and markedly affordable. Great doing business with you. All that's left now is to exercise whatever patience I can muster (which isn't much) as I wait for this beauty to arrive. Thanks again for making this purchase such a positive experience.
post #8878 of 15169
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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

This new XBR is an Exceptional display but it will appear much smaller than the 70" because you've got the additional width of the speaker ears so it will APPEAR much smaller, but the PQ is worth the loss of 5" of real estate.

I went from the 60" XBR1 to the 55" HX929, I do not miss the 5" difference one bit.
post #8879 of 15169
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Originally Posted by Hokoo View Post

I thought I read it was 1,000 hours break in but I could be confused with the Mirage speaker's I got that has a break in period.

Me personally calibrated it out of the box and then adjusted settings accordingly throughout the next few weeks as my eyes got comfortable.

When I'm out in the living room watching TV on the 47'' the colors seem much more alive then when in the bedroom on the 55'' the colors look different. But I also don't have any settings set for color on the 55'' which I'm hesitant to mess with. My eyes are not that great I don't know if it needs more or less color.

1000 hours break-in?? So if you break it in for three hours a day, it takes almost a year? No way.
post #8880 of 15169
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Originally Posted by ½Baked View Post

I originally bought the 60XBR2 because the PQ was much better than the 70 (in my opinion). The XBR65 is big enough, but you will notice a huge difference in the "cabinet" size. I would never fix an SXRD rptv. They only seem to go 1 or 2 years even with the cooling cranked to high altitude.

Common sense told me not to repair the SXRD as there is an inherent design flaw with these displays which lead me on to the HX929. I just find it hard to swallow a new display which involves a smaller screen size as I have always increased the screen size with every upgrade. I know your totally right and thanks for reminding me to stay on track with the HX929.

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Originally Posted by IMRIZZO View Post

This new XBR is an Exceptional display but it will appear much smaller than the 70" because you've got the additional width of the speaker ears so it will APPEAR much smaller, but the PQ is worth the loss of 5" of real estate.

Hi Rizz - I am not to concerned with cabinet size only screen area. I guess once I see the improved pic image quality bundled with 3D I hope it will lessen the shock of losing 5". Its just a shame that in the UK we are very limited when it comes to large displays compared to you guys in the US. I have honestly toyed with importing a display from the US to the UK but warranty issues and a lack of 50Hz compatibility has put me off going this route.


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Originally Posted by brickyardz View Post

I went from the 60" XBR1 to the 55" HX929, I do not miss the 5" difference one bit.

Thats reassuring to know. I hope I feel the same as you.
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