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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

After talking to three people at Netflix, one guy said my connection was below 1mbs, the third guy called their internal network support people and confirmed Netflix and Panasonic servers having problem talking to each other. Which is what seems to be going on as our iPad and our PS3 connect just fine. 310 connects very well to Vudu and Youtube. Seems to be Panasonic/Netflix problem at some juncture.

Cinema now works....

I had the opposite problem last nite. My ps3 wouldn't connect to Netflix, but my 110 connected perfectly.
post #2372 of 8308
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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

Not sure why but 3D looks way better from the Panasonic than it did with my PS3. Same TV, same glasses. And its nice to have the HD Audio back for 3D movies too. All in all I'd say excellent price point/value bluray player. The firmware/software for the on-line stuff does need to be a bit faster but over all its better than the Sony S570. With the Sony, and others, you had to build an instant queue on-line and did not have full search capability. The Panasonic is more like the early versions of Netflix on the PS3. Very nice.

Yes I agree completely. I have both in my setup, but I still can't get my 110 to output 7.1. I do have secondary audio set to off and output to bitstream. I put in a Star trek movie that has Dolby HD 7.1 audio. My AVR showed 7.1 channels going in but only 5.1 being output. I have a 6.1 speaker setup and with my ps3 I get full 6.1 output with the same movie.

I've read all the posts about audio here and everyone seems adamant that the 110 can ouput 7.1 so I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure it out.
post #2373 of 8308
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Originally Posted by Av8tr View Post

Yes I agree completely. I have both in my setup, but I still can't get my 110 to output 7.1. I do have secondary audio set to off and output to bitstream. I put in a Star trek movie that has Dolby HD 7.1 audio. My AVR showed 7.1 channels going in but only 5.1 being output. I have a 6.1 speaker setup and with my ps3 I get full 6.1 output with the same movie.

I've read all the posts about audio here and everyone seems adamant that the 110 can ouput 7.1 so I must be doing something wrong, but I can't figure it out.

If your AVR shows 7 channels coming in, then the Panny is doing its job. Your problem appears to be with your AVR settings.
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Originally Posted by Petrus View Post

If your AVR shows 7 channels coming in, then the Panny is doing its job. Your problem appears to be with your AVR settings.

Yes, that makes sense. I'll look into the AVR settings.
post #2375 of 8308
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

DLNA accepts only very limited video formats (AVCHD and MPEG). What you described sounds like your PC is transcoding on the fly because the video is not in the format the player accepts.

As posted many times now, if you're looking for an excellent streaming device, this is not it.

it even shows JPEG digital photoes in very poor compressed resolution (streaming)..is it also a DNLA limit?
also is there a different between the way pc streams to the Panasonic & The PS3? because all the videos & photoes look excellent on PS3??
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I have a BDT110 hooked up via HDMI to a Panasonic Plasma TV. The USB audio has the sub-menu option to turn off the TV without stopping the audio playback.

I was wondering if there was a setting (Viera Link?) to override the default behavior where powering off the TV will power down the BDT player, so the BDT player stays on for Pandora audio playback.

Currently the only way I am able to this is memorize the remote keypresses to navigate the VIERA Cast menu and launch Pandora while the TV is off.

Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Jakesh View Post

it even shows JPEG digital photos in very poor compressed resolution (streaming)..is it also a DNLA limit?
also is there a different between the way pc streams to the Panasonic & The PS3? because all the videos & photos look excellent on PS3??

Maybe another DNLA server will do better for you than Windows Media player? Earlier for me, playing back a DVD over HDMI from a laptop, Windows media player output looked crappy (blocky), while VLC media player output looked good. Googling, TVMobili looks like an alternative DLNA server for Windows.
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Originally Posted by matt_chitown View Post

I have a BDT110 hooked up via HDMI to a Panasonic Plasma TV. The USB audio has the sub-menu option to turn off the TV without stopping the audio playback.

I was wondering if there was a setting (Viera Link?) to override the default behavior where powering off the TV will power down the BDT player, so the BDT player stays on for Pandora audio playback.

Currently the only way I am able to this is memorize the remote keypresses to navigate the VIERA Cast menu and launch Pandora while the TV is off.

Thanks.

Turn off the Viera Link either at TV or at player.
post #2379 of 8308
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Originally Posted by matt_chitown View Post

I have a BDT110 hooked up via HDMI to a Panasonic Plasma TV. The USB audio has the sub-menu option to turn off the TV without stopping the audio playback.

I was wondering if there was a setting (Viera Link?) to override the default behavior where powering off the TV will power down the BDT player, so the BDT player stays on for Pandora audio playback.

Currently the only way I am able to this is memorize the remote keypresses to navigate the VIERA Cast menu and launch Pandora while the TV is off.

Thanks.

There are "power on" and "power off" settings in the Viera Link set-up. I turned off both of these, and it works quite well for me. I can play Pandora or use the BD player as a CD transport w/o leaving the TV on the whole time.

Although I am not (yet) using USB for audio, I figured that my use was similar enough to yours that this should also work for you. I THINK that the settings are in the menu with the HDMI settings; I'll double check.

Since I've mentioned the HDMI settings, I am curious if anyone has compared the various 4-4-4, 4-2-2, and RBG settings for pq? So far 4-2-2 seems to look the best on my calibrated Panny plasma. That seems logical as I believe that's how the video is encoded on Blu Ray. Any thoughts/observations?? Thanks
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Originally Posted by wgmontgomery View Post

Since I've mentioned the HDMI settings, I am curious if anyone has compared the various 4-4-4, 4-2-2, and RBG settings for pq? So far 4-2-2 seems to look the best on my calibrated Panny plasma. That seems logical as I believe that's how the video is encoded on Blu Ray. Any thoughts/observations?? Thanks

Try this...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1268731
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Interesting read. Wonder when they'll test the Panasonic 310? One of the things they don't talk about is price difference. I have a 570 and have it for SACD and the price point. When introduced I picked it up at Best Buy for just over 100 bucks. Can't touch an OPPO for that. With the Panasonic same kind of deal at Best Buy and with the Avatar 3D disk, that I would have purchased, the price point drops way down as compared to the OPPO.

However the information is quite interesting if only to drive the market toward a standard that will become the norm.
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Originally Posted by wgmontgomery View Post
Since I've mentioned the HDMI settings, I am curious if anyone has compared the various 4-4-4, 4-2-2, and RBG settings for pq? So far 4-2-2 seems to look the best on my calibrated Panny plasma. That seems logical as I believe that's how the video is encoded on Blu Ray. Any thoughts/observations?? Thanks
It's a good article linked by mrjktcvs -- and a great test. But the conclusion that one setting is always the best is not a given (in my opinion). It depends on your type of display (and assumes it is calibrated, of course) but also on your personal preference and "philosophy".

Indeed, if you have a brand new calibrated TV with superior processing, it is perfectly reasonable to want to send the original video datastream to it and make any visual adjustments on the TV. And for the kind of tests performed in the article, it is the ONLY objective measurement of players.

But because the data on BD (and most H.264 sources) is YCbCr 4:2:0, you're never going to have "raw" video data sent to that "perfect display" anyway -- the player MUST interpolate to either 4:2:2 or 4:4:4. If you output 4:2:2 the TV will then interpolate some more on the data was was already interpolated by the player. So two different processors get to mess with the data before is converted to RGB.

In my case, I have a 2008 Mitsubishi TV with amazing picture quality, but I am convinced that my new BDT110 does better chroma processing, so I leave it to perform all the interpolation from 4:2:0 to full 4:4:4. That way my TV only has to perform a straight conversion to RGB.

I wouldn't use RGB output because here we're getting into the domain of display rendering and some TVs may have built in compensation for their particular display technology. If the player converted into RGB, the TV might have to adjust that data -- and accuracy is lost with each calculation.

But I am sure there are player/TV combinations where other settings might be preferable.

It's a classic debate (both in audio and video) between what I call the "purist approach" (ideal individual components will achieve the optimal end result) and the "balanced approach" (carefully picked components can make up for each others' deficiencies). The purist approach can of course deliver the most optimal end result because weak links are minimized -- but it requires each component to be state of the art.

I am not arguing for or against either approach. I am merely arguing that there isn't one magic setting that is always the best -- if so Panasonic wouldn't have included the other settings

Correction: I meant the article linked by mrjktcvs on hometheaterhifi.com. I corrected it in the text above.
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Originally Posted by echeng View Post
Judging from the posted messages, it seems that logitech still hasn't have these players in their database. I tried it today and it cannot find it.
Had my 210.
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Here's the deal on the logitech database. It has the 110, 210 and 310. The 310 profile currently stinks, missing several commands including discrete on and off. If you have a 310, do yourself a favor and use the 110 or 210 profiles. They are much better and include nearly every command including discrete on and off. I think you only have to learn Home. The 110 and 210 profiles are identical. Realize that all 3 models use exactly the same original remote and therefore use exactly the same set of commands. If you change your player to use codeset 2 or 3, you'll have to learn all the commands.
post #2386 of 8308
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Originally Posted by zrdb View Post
I looked at a 110 and 220 when I was at Target yesterday-you've got to be kidding me? The outputs are sadly lacking-I mean really-composite video, stereo right and left, hdmi, that's it?-no componet, no coaxial or toslink digitial, no way I'd buy one of these. I'll stick with my BDP2500, thank you.
Look again, there is an optical connection (toslink) on this.
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Originally Posted by zrdb View Post
...no componet (sic)...
Isn't this the year when analog high-def connections are no longer allowed on BD players?

EDIT: Yes--they call it the "Analog Sunset" (see this). There's a second "sunset" in 2013 when output of decrypted video from BDs through even that composite connection will be disallowed, though I supposed that it might be useful for display of DVDs and streaming video.

Also, the Image Constraint Token may now be used in new BDs. These are flags embedded in the video and require the player to reduce the resolution to no more than 540x960 (one quarter 1080x1920). The publishers don't have to add these but now they can if they want.
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post
Isn't this the year when analog high-def connections are no longer allowed on BD players?

EDIT: Yes--they call it the "Analog Sunset" (see this). There's a second "sunset" in 2013 when output of decrypted video from BDs through even that composite connection will be disallowed, though I supposed that it might be useful for display of DVDs and streaming video.

Also, the Image Constraint Token may now be used in new BDs. These are flags embedded in the video and require the player to reduce the resolution to no more than 540x960 (one quarter 1080x1920). The publishers don't have to add these but now they can if they want.
That last sentence, why would they want to do that?
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Originally Posted by kusanagi-sama View Post

That last sentence, why would they want to do that?

The ICT was devised to prevent people from stealing the high-definition form of the video by recording the screen image (see "Rationale" here). It's goofy Hollywood paranoia. Pretty stupid, since people readily steal the bits off the discs and pass them around.

I don't think that there was ever an official rule against using the ICT; the disc publishers agreed among themselves not to use it until 2010.
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Anyone successfully using Skype with this player? Love to hear your experiences.

Also, I may have missed it as the time has gone by, but there doesn't seem to be any more talk of the episodes of movies "pausing" during Netflix streaming to adjust for available bandwidth. Has that problem been resolved?
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Originally Posted by Thompsonbrook View Post

Anyone successfully using Skype with this player? Love to hear your experiences.

Also, I may have missed it as the time has gone by, but there doesn't seem to be any more talk of the episodes of movies "pausing" during Netflix streaming to adjust for available bandwidth. Has that problem been resolved?

No, but the problem never bothered me as much as some people here. It's not quite a "pause" but a 'flash".
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Originally Posted by Thompsonbrook View Post

Anyone successfully using Skype with this player? Love to hear your experiences.

Also, I may have missed it as the time has gone by, but there doesn't seem to be any more talk of the episodes of movies "pausing" during Netflix streaming to adjust for available bandwidth. Has that problem been resolved?

I've seen it in the last couple of days
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For Skype you need a special communication camera, a normal web cam won't work.
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Here's the deal on the logitech database. It has the 110, 210 and 310. The 310 profile currently stinks, missing several commands including discrete on and off. If you have a 310, do yourself a favor and use the 110 or 210 profiles. They are much better and include nearly every command including discrete on and off. I think you only have to learn Home. The 110 and 210 profiles are identical. Realize that all 3 models use exactly the same original remote and therefore use exactly the same set of commands. If you change your player to use codeset 2 or 3, you'll have to learn all the commands.

I set up my 310 yesterday, and then did the Harmony configuration. When it eventually got through the fairly unintuitive setup, it suggested the 310 model from the database, which I accepted. When all was said and done, the remote has three power buttons setup...PowerOn, PowerOff, and PowerToggle.
post #2395 of 8308
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Originally Posted by mrjktcvs View Post

Also read this article:

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/techn...roduction.html

Thanks to both of you for the great info. I wish that one could A/B the settings while playing a disc; oh well. I'll probably spend some time with each and see which I prefer...assuming I see a real difference (or that I can pull my ears away from my new import Pink Floyd box set!!)

BTW- @matt_chitown-the Viera Link power settings are in the TV's menu!! Sorry for my mistake, but I hope that it helps!
post #2396 of 8308
I just got my DMP-BDT310 Panasonic BluRay Player.
I am thinking of getting a computer rack for keep all my AV equipment.
Is it possible to rack mount this BluRay player?
Is there any benefit of rack mounting versus placing it on a shelf.
post #2397 of 8308
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Here's the deal on the logitech database. It has the 110, 210 and 310. The 310 profile currently stinks, missing several commands including discrete on and off. If you have a 310, do yourself a favor and use the 110 or 210 profiles. They are much better and include nearly every command including discrete on and off. I think you only have to learn Home. The 110 and 210 profiles are identical. Realize that all 3 models use exactly the same original remote and therefore use exactly the same set of commands. If you change your player to use codeset 2 or 3, you'll have to learn all the commands.

I recently loaded the 110 on to my Logitech 650. Is there a button for Netflix, or do I have to load it manually?
post #2398 of 8308
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Originally Posted by matt_chitown View Post

Maybe another DNLA server will do better for you than Windows Media player? Earlier for me, playing back a DVD over HDMI from a laptop, Windows media player output looked crappy (blocky), while VLC media player output looked good. Googling, TVMobili looks like an alternative DLNA server for Windows.

I have tried 3 of the most popular softwares so far (MediaPlayer 12,Tversity/Wild Media Server) same problem with all..very disappointed with Panasonic so far my PS3 can play them all through all named softwares flawlessly,but then I do not want to watch videos with PS3 and thats why I bought the stand alone Bluray Player..
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Got mine and took about two weeks. Very impressed with the turnaround time and the fact that they sent it UPS rather than USPS.
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I've been a member of AVS Forum for several years but inactive for the past few years. (I just noticed my last login was 3/18/08 - damn!) I've been lurking in this thread for the past couple weeks. Anyway, enough about my AVS history.

I've happily owned the Oppo 980 DVD player for the past 4 years. But I figured I was overdue for a BR player. I wanted to get the Oppo 93, but at $500, I just couldn't justify it. Then I heard of the Panasonic 210, did some research, bought it from panasonic.com, and got it a few days ago. I just set it up today using the existing HDMI cable from the Oppo player. (It will be relocated upstairs for bedroom duty.) I set up the Wi-Fi stuff, which wasn't bad at all. It took me 2 tries to update the firmware, but it finally worked the 2nd time around. The FW was upgraded from 1.61 to 1.63 and took about 10 min.

The 'net apps look pretty good, but YT videos look pretty bad on full screen. I guess the app only supports 360 rez? Stocks, weather, sports are pretty cool. I played a CD and it worked fine. I have a bunch of DVDs and 1 BR film (3 actually - the "BTTF" trilogy) that I'll try out this weekend.

I have my Panasonic 210 connected to my Onkyo 605 receiver, which connects to a 57" Mitsubishi DLP TV (from 2007). I turned off Viera, turned on touch-free opening, but kept most of the other default settings. I'm looking forward to watching movies on it and will report back on how it goes and look forward to continue to read about others' experiences.

Oh yeah, I sent in for my "Avatar 3D" BR yesterday and hope to get it by mid-July. I can't believe how much they're selling for on Ebay!
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