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post #2881 of 8311
I have had the 110 for about amonth now. It works great except for the flickering on Netflix. I received my Avatar disc a week ago. I looked at E bay, and they were going for $70 more or less. Went to Amazon and saw they were selling for $120 and up. I set up a seller account and sold it for $110. Netted about $20 less than I Paid for the player.
Bill
post #2882 of 8311
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Originally Posted by daddie_longlegs View Post
I have a new panasonic Blu-ray Panasonic DMP-BDT210. Firmware updated. Wired connection, pass the network test. Will not show Viera Cast/connect. I have a Linksys E3000 dual band router, I opened ports 48705, 443, 80 (port range triggering). Gave a static IP address. All of this after calling both Panasonic & Linksys customer support and still neither show Viera cast/connect. Can someone help please!
Does the Linksys show up in the search for networks function? If it does....

Do you have your 2.4 and 5Ghz networks named (SSID) the same? They should be different.

Some Linksys are bad with AUTO channel settings they constantly try to reset the connection/network. Set the 5Ghz channel to 161 to stabilize it. This should be ONLY a "N" network, not mixed. You can make the 2.4Ghz mixed so that you support other devices such as smartphones, laptops, Nintendo DS, etc.

Use encryption, WPA2 with AES only. Again, the key should be Open or Open Shared and AES encryption only, not any combo. TKIP is worthless and easily broken. Your password should be at least 24 characters long, a phrase is good.

So long as you have turned off remote configuration access, there should not be any issue with enabling UPnP for the port control since the ports opened will point to the player which is harmless.

I have Linksys 610n and E2000 routers, fwiw.
post #2883 of 8311
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Originally Posted by tbase1 View Post

Has anyone had any problems with accessing all of your movies via DLNA steaming from your network or HTPC?

Yes, everyone has had problems. This player supports very few video file types.
post #2884 of 8311
Which Video settings does you guys use for blu ray? Which for DVD?

Picture = Normal I assume or one of the presets?

Chroma Process = Advanced or other

Detail clarity?

Super resolution = 0

Black level = lighter

Thanks for any responses.
post #2885 of 8311
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Originally Posted by svphile View Post

Which Video settings does you guys use for blu ray? Which for DVD?

Picture = Normal I assume or one of the presets?

Chroma Process = Advanced or other

Detail clarity?

Super resolution = 0

Black level = lighter

Thanks for any responses.

Same as what you've listed for all content with detail clarity off and chroma process on advanced.
post #2886 of 8311
When will Vudu 3D work on this player.
post #2887 of 8311
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

Thanks for the info. I'm thinking of upgrading my BD65 to the 110. Without saying the price, who has the best deal on the 110 now?

***I found mine on Amazon, and 3 companies had it really cheap, you can take your pick once there .....

To answer the question about the difference between the BD-65 and the 110, the initial response would be load times.... the 110 has it all over the 65, and just about any other player I've had....... the PQ is a bit better as well, as is the upconverting.

Be ready for a really small player though .... the 110 is thin, lightweight, and you can carry it in between your fingers basically.......

Also -- I've read where people are turning off SuperResolution on the Panny players -- I have not found that setting on the 110, is everyone referring to the 210, or is it buried somewhere I can't see ? Thanks in advance.....

I only use the 110 for BluRay playback -- I do not use it to connect to the internet.
post #2888 of 8311
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Originally Posted by LD9000 View Post

Just got my 110 today --- couldn't pass up the great price I got it for, and I'm trying to fit it into a system with a Pioneer Elite DV-49 and Pioneer Elite Blu Ray 23FD player ........

I use the DV-49 for standard DVD play, and I use the 23FD for BluRay and CD play (through the analog connection).

For comparison --- I've owned an Oppo 981 and a Panasonic BD-65 in the past.... the Pioneer Elites replaced everything. I tend to use 2 players generally, one for standard and one for BluRay ....... both Pioneer Elite players are among the best upconverting players I've seen, especially the DV-49AV......

I put on the Panasonic 110 just now, and I was absolutely amazed at the PQ of this player.....I put it through the following tests:

King Kong (Blu-Ray) - astounding picture and audio.
Corpse Bride (BluRay) - again, astounding.
Spiderman (standard) - picture was so good it almost resembled HD

The Day the World Ended - (original B&W version) -- excellent upconversion, but the Panny doesn't automatically format the picture the way the Elites do. I have to manually change it on the TV.

Rodan -- (original version)- picture looked washed out and grainy, so its obvious that picture quality from the source does matter.

Godzilla -- (original version) -- superb re-production of the B&W, but still a little grainy.


What I've found in comparison to the Elite players...........

The Panny rivals or betters the Elite BluRay player in picture and audio ( and I was surprised to find this )
The Panny cannot upconvert as well as the Elites, either of them, but the Panny comes close on standard DVDs ...... the BD-65 I owned did not upconvert that well at all compared to this new player......

The Panny loads FAST !!!!! I didn't read all of the threads here, but the load time of BluRay / standard discs blows away the 23FD ...... a little quicker than the 49AV, but not by much.

I think in the end -- I will use the Panny for BluRay discs, and use the 23FD for standard def and CDs (again which I use the analog connections for CDs)....... I'll put the 49av in storage as I can't part with any Elite player from the past ........

I have these players as well. Neither of them upscale as well as my Marantz 6005 AVR, so I use the 210 for BD and the 23FD for DVD using the source direct mode. Given my collection, the 210 is being used 90% of the time.
post #2889 of 8311
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Originally Posted by LD9000 View Post

Also -- I've read where people are turning off SuperResolution on the Panny players -- I have not found that setting on the 110, is everyone referring to the 210, or is it buried somewhere I can't see ? Thanks in advance.....

You have to bring up the "display" menu using the remote while viewing a movie to change the super resolution option. You don't have to change it each time you watch a movie, but you must do it during playback for some odd reason. Panasonic really put this in a terrible place that most people would never find.
post #2890 of 8311
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Originally Posted by mrjktcvs View Post

I have these players as well. Neither of them upscale as well as my Marantz 6005 AVR, so I use the 210 for BD and the 23FD for DVD using the source direct mode. Given my collection, the 210 is being used 90% of the time.

I have the Denon 3311ci with the same ABT chip and using "source direct" mode on a Pioneer player to the Denon for upscaling yielded no visible improvement on real world material. The ABT chip passes more synthetic tests for odd cadences (i.e. 5:5) but the Panasonic upscales just as well on more standard cadences used for most DVDs. All of my tests were done with 2 identical copies of DVDs, flipping back and forth between inputs on the AVR using known problematic material. Also, super resolution must be disabled in the Panasonic.

If you haven't done the same comparison, give it a try using something like the American Beauty SD DVD (terrible disc with lots of issues). You might be surprised at how close the Panasonic is to your AVR's ABT chip. I sold my Pioneer with source direct mode afterward - particularly since I RARELY watch an SD DVD anymore as it is.
post #2891 of 8311
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Originally Posted by LD9000 View Post

***I found mine on Amazon, and 3 companies had it really cheap, you can take your pick once there .....

To answer the question about the difference between the BD-65 and the 110, the initial response would be load times.... the 110 has it all over the 65, and just about any other player I've had....... the PQ is a bit better as well, as is the upconverting.

Be ready for a really small player though .... the 110 is thin, lightweight, and you can carry it in between your fingers basically.......

Also -- I've read where people are turning off SuperResolution on the Panny players -- I have not found that setting on the 110, is everyone referring to the 210, or is it buried somewhere I can't see ? Thanks in advance.....

I only use the 110 for BluRay playback -- I do not use it to connect to the internet.

The 110 also blows away the BD 80 in load times which the 110 replaced. Also I was able to bring up the menu on Stargate which the BD 35 and 80 could not do. Was nice to watch the movie without having to wait for all the previews to be over and wait for the menu to come up.

Jeff
post #2892 of 8311
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Originally Posted by jkozlow3 View Post

You have to bring up the "display" menu using the remote while viewing a movie to change the super resolution option. You don't have to change it each time you watch a movie, but you must do it during playback for some odd reason. Panasonic really put this in a terrible place that most people would never find.

What is the purpose of the "Super Resolution" feature?
post #2893 of 8311
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Originally Posted by Jim McC View Post

What is the purpose of the "Super Resolution" feature?

The description in the manual is, "Pictures of normal image quality are corrected to sharp and detailed images when output as 1080i/1080p from HDMI AV OUT."
post #2894 of 8311
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Originally Posted by Tom Terrific View Post
I have a 210 connected to a gt25. I find myself liking the gt25's netflix interface better, not mention finding the vieracast on the tv to be much snappier and responsive than the 210, which I would describe as ponderous, despite being a 2011 model vs. a 2010 model like the tv. Does anyone else feel the same?

Does anyone feel that there is a PQ difference in the Netflix via a tv app vs the 210's app?
Definitely. When streaming Netflix, PQ on my 110 is considerably better than on my VT30 (not only is PQ sharper on the 110, but the VT30 cuts off subtitles on foreign films when there are 3 lines of text).
post #2895 of 8311
I output in bitstream and have the secondary audio off and through a 1.4 hdmi cable to my AVR. My AVR supports 7.1. The 110 says it's outputting True 7.1 HD but the AVR says its on 2.0. When I play the same movie via ps3, the AVR says it's 7.1.
I exchanged the 110 for another 110 thinking it was defective and I get the same audio output.
I just ordered a new hdmi to see if that is the issue, but I use the exact same cable for PS3 and the 110 and the PS3 says 7.1.
Any ideas?
post #2896 of 8311
I'm a bit confused by what I'm reading in the thread about Netflix:

The 210 is streaming Netflix in 1080p and the 110 only streams Netflix in 720p? Aren't they both in 720p?
post #2897 of 8311
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

I'm a bit confused by what I'm reading in the thread about Netflix:

The 210 is streaming Netflix in 1080p and the 110 only streams Netflix in 720p? Aren't they both in 720p?

Where are you reading that? I'm pretty certain that these units are identical, except for some physical features (built-in WiFi, hands-free sensor on 210 and 310 and double HDMI on the 310) and some firmware-related sound processing on the 210 and 310 (including the ability to produce a 7.1 PCM stream in the 210 and 310, which doesn't matter if your AVR can handle the encoded bitstreams, which they all can output). I feel absolutely certain the Viera Cast players are identical and I know that the BDT110 is not getting the 30%+ higher bit rate stream that the PS3 gets for HD streams.
post #2898 of 8311
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Where are you reading that? I'm pretty certain that these units are identical, except for some physical features (built-in WiFi, hands-free sensor on 210 and 310 and double HDMI on the 310) and some firmware-related sound processing on the 210 and 310 (including the ability to produce a 7.1 PCM stream in the 210 and 310, which doesn't matter if your AVR can handle the encoded bitstreams, which they all can output). I feel absolutely certain the Viera Cast players are identical and I know that the BDT110 is not getting the 30%+ higher bit rate stream that the PS3 gets for HD streams.

It was something posted earlier in the thread. Nevermind.
Hopefully they'll update the Netflix app to 1080p one of these days.
post #2899 of 8311
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

It was something posted earlier in the thread. Nevermind.
Hopefully they'll update the Netflix app to 1080p one of these days.

My theory has been that Sony had some kind of timed exclusive for the PS3. If the Roku 2 is really getting 1080p, that may signal that such an exclusive, if it exists, is over.
post #2900 of 8311
FWIW:

I picked up a copy of LOTR EE BD at Borders for $70 the other day. I already had the EE DVD versions.

As has been discussed on the LOTR EE BD thread, the color remapping done for the new BD release can be a bit off-putting, when you first see them. The Shire's green hills are almost psychedelic, the Gates of Modor are crushingly black. However the upscaling on the BD is much better, without any edginess that the regular dvd suffers from. The BD's gravel, rocks, and fine details when not digitally rubbed out to flatness by the director (Frodo's face at the Gray Havens looks totally strange) are much better. Either one if perfectly viewable, IMHO. But, if you are familiar with the production teams' audio commentary, a big screen and the BD in particular make all the actor swapping, and some of the digital effects more noticeable than ever. (It reminds me of my two copies of 2001: A Space Odyssey, one is from a good master and one from a bad one where you can see the still frame vehicles moved against the backgrounds. I totally enjoyed the good one on the 210.)

I stand corrected on the following info, the unit DOES output 6.1 at least to via the optical connection, provided the secondary audio (LR) is turned off. So, my older 6.1 avr DOES get at least 6.1 DTS output with the DTS HD audio codec on the allowing it to decode the back center channel. I found it interesting that the LOTR dts tracks due to my older 6.1 avr, still sound so different. (The DVD is dts es, and the bd dts hd.) I was disappointed that the optical output in the BD was only dts 5.1 and the system didn't detect the rear center channel (it usually flashes that it's decoding it and there's a indicator light). Using my old dvd (which also plays MPEG/Divx) and outputs progressive video via composite and optical naturally had no problems. I really don't like the optical output restrictions, and a new avr supporting 1.4a hdmi is a problem since I still have tape and two record players, and a CD jukebox, although except for our record collection which includes 78 and 45 rpms, all the cd's are on a server can be played with the 210's DLNA though it's lack of FLAC support is also a disappointment.


So now after a few weeks, here's my list of issues:

1. I have never come across anything as stupid as the network drive's 12 folder limitation. AND it counts folders which don't have compatible content (and it knows this since they are grayed out).

2. The 5.1 limitation on the optical output is silly and a major disappointment to me. This statement is wrong, I did not have the secondary audio turned off, which is what limits the output via the optical connection. I thought secondary audio included optical output. I get DTS 6.1 output on my 6.1 avr non-hdmi unit. However, Dolby-True HD output to my avr is a mess when any LFE is output; the avr doesn't understand it. While you can output PCM for the DD, while using bitstream for the DTS, it's not a full surround codec recognized by my avr as anything more than 3 channels, not 5.1.

3. While the mkv format support is nice, even in encode formats it supports, a full 1080p dts encoded track with lots of action can be problematic for it. I don't know if it's due to the processor's power or a lack of buffering capacity.

4. Disks MUST have encoded with DVD menus. This is also just a silly limitation, I have terrabytes of stuff on DVD disks as plain data (as well as on network servers), which my old dvd plays just fine. A regular disk navigator would not have been that hard to implement with the USB disk and netdrive navigation stuff already in there (but maybe we would have been limited to 12 folders again).

5. wifi on the unit, simply doesn't stay ON unless it's streaming something. This may be a energy savings of some sort, but it slows the response of the Viera services, and the network services on the home network. It's goes in and out.

6. Although I have no camera on the unit, the Skype stuff seems that it doesn't resume the movie/service playing when Skype is received automatically. I accidently pressed the Skype button, and exiting didn't return to the movie.
post #2901 of 8311
has anyone tried playing 24/96 WAV and/or FLAC music from the SD Card?
post #2902 of 8311
Hey guys, I need some help. I have the 210 hooked up via hdmi to my Denon 1909. If I play a standard dvd, unless I switch it to output 24p, I’ll get handshake issues where it will reconnect. It does this maybe a couple of times per movie. If I change the output to 24p, I get no issues at all. I figured maybe this was an issue with my receiver, so I connected the player directly to the tv. Same issue. I’ve got my blu-rays to output 24p, so I haven’t ever noticed an issue. Does anyone have any suggestions or have any of you experienced the same thing?
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Is there a particular setting in the 310 menu to enable 5.1 streaming from Netflix? I have the 310 running through my receiver, which is set to pass through whatever audio it receives, and it is showing only two-channel. (For other sources, it is passing 5.1). In an earlier post, someone mentioned there was a setting on the 210 or 310 to enable 5.1, but I can't seem to access the jpg file that he attached to show the menu setting.
post #2904 of 8311
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Originally Posted by smitty View Post

Is there a particular setting in the 310 menu to enable 5.1 streaming from Netflix? I have the 310 running through my receiver, which is set to pass through whatever audio it receives, and it is showing only two-channel. (For other sources, it is passing 5.1). In an earlier post, someone mentioned there was a setting on the 210 or 310 to enable 5.1, but I can't seem to access the jpg file that he attached to show the menu setting.

I assume that you are watching a title with a 5.1 soundtrack (a fairly small percentage overall--you can see a list of HD ones here)?
post #2905 of 8311
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

I assume that you are watching a title with a 5.1 soundtrack (a fairly small percentage overall--you can see a list of HD ones here)?

The one I was watching was not on that list. But how can you tell -- other than by this list -- whether it is 5.1 or not? For example, when you call up one of the movies on the list on Netflix, it doesn't show that it streams 5.1.

EDIT: I see what the poster had to do to create the list on the linked post, but it is dated 12/2010, and I wonder if there's something more recent from the Netflix website that tells you what is 5.1.
post #2906 of 8311
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Originally Posted by smitty View Post

The one I was watching was not on that list. But how can you tell -- other than by this list -- whether it is 5.1 or not? For example, when you call up one of the movies on the list on Netflix, it doesn't show that it streams 5.1.

EDIT: I see what the poster had to do to create the list on the linked post, but it is dated 12/2010, and I wonder if there's something more recent from the Netflix website that tells you what is 5.1.

There is an audio option button/tab, whatever you want to call it, for titles that have 5.1. It must be selected otherwise default is 2.0. As for that list, it is current. Michael spends a lot of time updating it. Look at the edit date at the bottom, not when the thread was started.

S~
post #2907 of 8311
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

There is an audio option button/tab, whatever you want to call it, for titles that have 5.1. It must be selected otherwise default is 2.0. As for that list, it is current. Michael spends a lot of time updating it. Look at the edit date at the bottom, not when the thread was started.

S~

Thanks.
post #2908 of 8311
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Originally Posted by smitty View Post

The one I was watching was not on that list. But how can you tell -- other than by this list -- whether it is 5.1 or not? For example, when you call up one of the movies on the list on Netflix, it doesn't show that it streams 5.1.

EDIT: I see what the poster had to do to create the list on the linked post, but it is dated 12/2010, and I wonder if there's something more recent from the Netflix website that tells you what is 5.1.

Note that I am the person who created and maintains that list. The line just before the top of the actual list of titles details my last update. Right now it reads:
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

There are 492 available titles in the list as of 7 July (111 New!, 14 expirations, 1 expired title renewed). Enjoy!

So it was last updated a few weeks back, on the 7th. I won't update that list more than once a month (it's a tedious process requiring a minimum of about 2 hours)--to find out if something that's been added more recently than that has a 5.1 soundtrack, just drill down into the title's description. If it has a 5.1 soundtrack it will display "5.1" next to the title, as in this shot:


I really wish that Netflix (or InstantWatcher, FeedFlix, etc) would implement a filter on their site for listing titles with 5.1 soundtracks so that I could abandon that post .
post #2909 of 8311
For those that want to access their media to their 210 instead of using WMC...use a program called MEZZMO. I now have access to all of my media via my network instead of using WMC or media browser. I like the look of media browser, but if I don't have to change inputs to get to my movies I'm golden.
post #2910 of 8311
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Originally Posted by Mikenificent1 View Post

has anyone tried playing 24/96 WAV and/or FLAC music from the SD Card?

I tried via the Netdrive and the USB with a thumbdrive and FLAC files from the music publisher. The USB/Netdrive both say either 'No supported Files found.'

I have some video which has the audio encoded as FLAC, the video plays, the unit displays 'incompatible audio format' .

FLAC is not listed in the manual or descriptions. There should be no difference to the SD card, as the SD card should be on the USB bus since those are the cheapest ways to put a SD card slot into a device.
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