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post #3121 of 8308
8/5/11 at 9:05am
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Originally Posted by MTSIndy View Post


Hi Nickff!

Looks like we're only a few dozen miles apart: I'm in Fishers, IN.

I have a question was about your Sony S570. When I was researching Blu-ray players, the consistent comment that I found about the Sony S4xx and S5xx series was that people were having problems with Netflix streaming. Had it not been for those comments, I may have gone with Sony over Panasonic. Not that I am unhappy in the least with my 110, especially since I got it for $116 at BB, realizing my U-verse boxes all have live RJ-45 network jacks for pass-thru internet. So what does your S570 have over your 210 in terms of streaming? Just curious....

Sony's menus are more intuitive in my opinion. If I sit down to watch Netflix, the process is much simpler from start to finish on my S570. Also, the Sony has yet to have a single hiccup when streaming Netflix. On the other hand, after updating to 1.68 on my 210 and testing Netflix, I had the reported black flashes immediately.

I have not had both very long and overall am satisfied with both... I just prefer the S570 for Netflix viewing.
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post #3122 of 8308
8/5/11 at 10:43am
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Originally Posted by jxbrowner View Post

Hi,
I'm trying to connect my BD110 to my PC (Vista). I read confusing information that DLNA works only with Win Media plater 12 (not available for Vista). But I also read teh Vista is supported for BD110. So which one is true. Can I connect my PC to BD110. When I tried it said "cannot find....". My Sony Laptop is DLNA certified which was able to connect to my Denon 3310CI (DLNA) very well. I was expecting BD110 to function as well. Please help. The user manual is totally useless. I tried emailing the Panny support (with above question) and got the standard response that I need to call them to provide further information. I don't even understand why a DLNA certified is depended on PC OS (Vista/7) and on top of the Server (WM 12)? As long as I have a DLNA server running on network it should sniff and get it correct? that's the whole idea of DLNA.

Can anyone help. Has anyone tried connecting 110 to Vista PC? If so please let me know what steps. Do i need to setup the network folder individually with ip address and folder path (that would be lame).

thanks.

I have a BDT110, but I haven't connected via DLNA to a Vista box but I have connected to Win2K, XP, and Win7 boxes here at home - and each was very easy - it auto-discovered them. And not only did DLNA work but so did attaching as a network drive so I could play files directly from the other PCs on the BDT110 itself. BUT -- so far I've only been able to play music and look at JPEGs. The BDT110 is extremely sensitive to the video format and I can't yet tell if it's a limited codec capability or a DRM problem. I've tried TVersity and PS3 Media Server which served music and pictures via DLNA just fine - but no video. I tried forced transcoding in various forms from DivX (didn't know at the time it was apparently restricted to Canadian units!), MP4, MTS, MPG, AVI, and nothing has played so far but I keep plugging away - others have reported success this way with video so I believe it should play videos this way. The BDT110 also won't play my own AVCHD videos from my camcorder if they're on a BD disk but will if they're on a DVD in AVCHD form at the same resolution - so I smell a DRM problem rather than a codec problem.
Do you see your Vista box when you select DLNA on the BDT110? My daughter's Win7 laptop showed up automatically even though we never specifically enabled anything so I think the default is to have the DLNA capability turned on with Vista and Win7 boxes - don't know that, just guessing - same for my wife's portable - and when I select DLNA on the Panny it finds them both automatically. Are you doing anything special for network security on your Vista box?
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post #3123 of 8308
8/5/11 at 1:10pm
Well I'm 0-2 with the bdt-210 player. I did an exchange hoping that the wifi was bad on the first one.

I don't think this panny likes working with a netgear router. Its a N600 dual band router.

What's odd is that I have multiple wifi and wired devices running without any issues. Here's a list.

Wired
PC(a)
XBox360 (a)
Dish Network box

Wireless
PC (b)
Laptop
2 Iphones
PS3
Xbox360 (b)
Wii
HP Printer

IP address are dynamic... anyone here has some suggestions on what to check?
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post #3124 of 8308
8/5/11 at 2:35pm
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Originally Posted by ahahlberg View Post

I have a BDT110, but I haven't connected via DLNA to a Vista box but I have connected to Win2K, XP, and Win7 boxes here at home - and each was very easy - it auto-discovered them. And not only did DLNA work but so did attaching as a network drive so I could play files directly from the other PCs on the BDT110 itself. BUT -- so far I've only been able to play music and look at JPEGs. The BDT110 is extremely sensitive to the video format and I can't yet tell if it's a limited codec capability or a DRM problem. I've tried TVersity and PS3 Media Server which served music and pictures via DLNA just fine - but no video. I tried forced transcoding in various forms from DivX (didn't know at the time it was apparently restricted to Canadian units!), MP4, MTS, MPG, AVI, and nothing has played so far but I keep plugging away - others have reported success this way with video so I believe it should play videos this way. The BDT110 also won't play my own AVCHD videos from my camcorder if they're on a BD disk but will if they're on a DVD in AVCHD form at the same resolution - so I smell a DRM problem rather than a codec problem.
Do you see your Vista box when you select DLNA on the BDT110? My daughter's Win7 laptop showed up automatically even though we never specifically enabled anything so I think the default is to have the DLNA capability turned on with Vista and Win7 boxes - don't know that, just guessing - same for my wife's portable - and when I select DLNA on the Panny it finds them both automatically. Are you doing anything special for network security on your Vista box?

Thanks for the Info. So if you could connect to XP then it should definately connect to Vista. I don't know if its the firewall but my PC didnt't show up in the DLNA accessible list. Let me see if its the firewall.
Good to know that it should work. DLNA was one of the main thing for buying this.
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post #3125 of 8308
8/5/11 at 3:53pm
Is anyone else getting audio drop outs with the 1.68 firmware on the BDT210?

I have 2 of these. The unit downstairs is hooked up to my home theater. I get constant audio drop outs now. The unit I have in the bedroom is just hooked up through my tv speakers and I had no issues streaming last night (wi-fi). My downstairs unit was fine on 1.63.
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post #3126 of 8308
8/5/11 at 4:18pm
No problems here.

S~
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post #3127 of 8308
8/5/11 at 7:09pm
My 210 has and continues to work flawlessly. Firmware updates have been automatic. I have it connected wirelessly through my Verizon Fios
Connection. It plays DVD's and Blu-Rays perfectly. The web applications are likewise working without flashes, audio dropouts or any other problems. No complaints here.
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post #3128 of 8308
8/5/11 at 7:37pm
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Originally Posted by campfirehero View Post

Well I'm 0-2 with the bdt-210 player. I did an exchange hoping that the wifi was bad on the first one.

I don't think this panny likes working with a netgear router. Its a N600 dual band router.

What's odd is that I have multiple wifi and wired devices running without any issues. Here's a list.

Wired
PC(a)
XBox360 (a)
Dish Network box

Wireless
PC (b)
Laptop
2 Iphones
PS3
Xbox360 (b)
Wii
HP Printer

IP address are dynamic... anyone here has some suggestions on what to check?

When I had multiple devices connecting to my router and was using dynamic addresses, I had numerous connection issues (things kept trying to get the same address). I am not a networking expert, so my solution was to use static IP addresses for everything. I have had no issues since.
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post #3129 of 8308
8/5/11 at 8:44pm
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Originally Posted by Nickff View Post

When I had multiple devices connecting to my router and was using dynamic addresses, I had numerous connection issues (things kept trying to get the same address). I am not a networking expert, so my solution was to use static IP addresses for everything. I have had no issues since.

Reserve the IP address for each device.
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post #3130 of 8308
8/5/11 at 9:36pm
If I use my 110 and the Pandora Internet Radio can I get the higher bit rate if I do it through the Panny instead of directly from the router to the back of my Integra receiver?

Jeff
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post #3131 of 8308
8/6/11 at 5:49am
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Originally Posted by colour View Post

Reserve the IP address for each device.

Don't know how and see no reason to change. Thanks though!
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post #3132 of 8308
8/6/11 at 10:45am
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Originally Posted by filmgene View Post

My 210 has and continues to work flawlessly. Firmware updates have been automatic. I have it connected wirelessly through my Verizon Fios
Connection. It plays DVD's and Blu-Rays perfectly. The web applications are likewise working without flashes, audio dropouts or any other problems. No complaints here.

Do you have it connected to the receiver? If so do you get DTS-HD MA stream, does your receiver shows that stream info? Because mine for some reason gets DTS from Panny, or if I do factory reset it gets correct bitstream, but video is flashing.
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post #3133 of 8308
8/6/11 at 10:45am
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Originally Posted by campfirehero View Post

IP address are dynamic... anyone here has some suggestions on what to check?

What does the 210 say the signal strength is? Are you trying to use 2.4GHz or 5GHz wireless-N?

Jim
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post #3134 of 8308
8/6/11 at 11:30am
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Originally Posted by Nickff View Post
Don't know how and see no reason to change. Thanks though!
The motivation would be to get your panny to connect. It's not hard:

http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto...ip-address.asp
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post #3135 of 8308
8/6/11 at 11:56am
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Originally Posted by microsup

Do you have it connected to the receiver? If so do you get DTS-HD MA stream, does your receiver shows that stream info? Because mine for some reason gets DTS from Panny, or if I do factory reset it gets correct bitstream, but video is flashing.
Yes, it is connected to a 2010 Pioneer AVR.
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post #3136 of 8308
8/6/11 at 12:21pm
Is there any explanation why Panasonic can't seem to avoid displaying black flashes when Netflix streams change resolution? I can't imagine it's a technical limitation of the hardware. What is the best way to bug Panasonic for a fix? I love my 110 otherwise, but this glitch makes Netflix a no-go for me.
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post #3137 of 8308
8/6/11 at 12:42pm
I'm getting the 110 next week and I'm concern about this black flashes. How bad is this flashes. Does the flashes happen during the streaming of the movie or before the movie starts.
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post #3138 of 8308
8/6/11 at 2:06pm
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Originally Posted by jsil View Post
I'm getting the 110 next week and I'm concern about this black flashes. How bad is this flashes. Does the flashes happen during the streaming of the movie or before the movie starts.
I get them very rarely (maybe once every 3 movies I stream, hard wired, not WiFi), so for me, it's not a big deal. It happens when the streaming rate varies and lasts less than a second. Not sure if it is a Panny problem or a Netflix problem.
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post #3139 of 8308
8/6/11 at 2:26pm
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Originally Posted by jsil View Post
I'm getting the 110 next week and I'm concern about this black flashes. How bad is this flashes. Does the flashes happen during the streaming of the movie or before the movie starts.
They only happen when the amount of bandwidth on your connection to Netflix wavers; the player switches to a lower-bit-rate/lower-picture-quality encoding to compensate then back up to a higher one when available bandwidth rises. The PS3, Roku 2 and others do this, but very smoothly--on the PS3 it's so smooth it's like watching focus on a camera soften and sharpen.

If the bandwidth on the connections that you get to Netflix's servers (as distinct from the rated speed of your Internet service) never gets lower than required for the maximum bit rate encoding for the title that you're watching (or never gets lower or higher than necessary for the encoding that you start with) you won't see the black flashes--many people have never seen them. Sometimes you'll see a few as it ramps up at the beginning.
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8/6/11 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott
The PS3, Roku 2 and others do this, but very smoothly--on the PS3 it's so smooth it's like watching focus on a camera soften and sharpen.
I guess my question is why does the Panasonic drop a couple of frames -- go completely black -- rather than immediately display the higher or lower resolution image that it has just switched to? I find it quite distracting when it does happen, but it seems like such a simple thing for Panasonic to fix. I guess I will call customer service and let them know that a fix is important to me -- and that my player will be returned if they can't offer me some hope that they're working on a solution.
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8/6/11 at 3:21pm
Before I moved our WiFi access point into the hall linen closet, which puts it in the middle of the house and much closer to the entertainment center, I had three bars marginally on our 210. We'd occasionally see quite obvious black flashes. Now the thing gets four bars solid and, after having watched Buckaroo Bonzai, The Man Who Knew Too Little and several more episodes of Worst Week, I'd say we occasionally see a black flash that happens so quickly that if you'd blinked when it had happened you'd have missed it.

About the time the WAP was moved, the latest firmware upgrade from 1.65 to 1.68 was done, too.

Jim
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post #3142 of 8308
8/6/11 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by anthrojohn View Post

I guess my question is why does the Panasonic drop a couple of frames -- go completely black -- rather than immediately display the higher or lower resolution image that it has just switched to? I find it quite distracting when it does happen, but it seems like such a simple thing for Panasonic to fix. I guess I will call customer service and let them know that a fix is important to me -- and that my player will be returned if they can't offer me some hope that they're working on a solution.

I have no idea why Panasonic seems unable to replicate what works on the PS3 and Roku 2. The PS3 is vastly over powered for this task, but you wouldn't think that the Roku had much more processing power than the BDTx10. Inept programming.

I'm sure that many people have called and complained about the problem.
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post #3143 of 8308
8/6/11 at 5:12pm
how good is the 210 in playing mkv,avi,mp4 etc? can it play iso and vob files?

Thanks
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post #3144 of 8308
8/6/11 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

I have no idea why Panasonic seems unable to replicate what works on the PS3 and Roku 2. The PS3 is vastly over powered for this task, but you wouldn't think that the Roku had much more processing power than the BDTx10. Inept programming.

I'm sure that many people have called and complained about the problem.

Thanks for your thoughts. On Monday I'll be giving Panasonic a call to add just a little bit more pressure for a fix.
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post #3145 of 8308
8/6/11 at 6:35pm
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Originally Posted by JJ7 View Post


The motivation would be to get your panny to connect. It's not hard:

http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto...ip-address.asp

I wasn't the one with connection issues. That was another member.
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post #3146 of 8308
8/6/11 at 6:39pm
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Originally Posted by BillP View Post


I get them very rarely (maybe once every 3 movies I stream, hard wired, not WiFi), so for me, it's not a big deal. It happens when the streaming rate varies and lasts less than a second. Not sure if it is a Panny problem or a Netflix problem.

Streaming Netflix works fine on my xbox and Sony blu-ray player... just the panny has black flashes for me.

This points to a player issue.
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post #3147 of 8308
8/6/11 at 9:18pm
So, as I wrote earlier, the blinks are shorter, but sometimes they're relatively frequent. Watched Skyline tonight (don't bother, btw--it's pretty bad) and had blinking, sometimes double-blinking, frequently enough for it to be annoying. I would say as much as a dozen times, perhaps more, throughout the movie.

Right after that: Watched another episode of Worst Week (to kind of wash the "taste" of the movie out of our heads ), and not a single blink.

Jim
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8/6/11 at 9:46pm
I just updated my 5 y/o Onkyo HTiB receiver (HT-R640) with a new low-mid range one (TX-NR609) so for the first time I can hear bitstreamed advanced audio encodings. Before, I could only get bitstreamed basic DD and DTS; anything more and the player had to convert to one of those or multi-channel PCM. The Netflix player can output DD+ 5.1 (the Roku 2 can only output that, being unable to convert). Pretty good, but I ran into a sound cutting-in-and-out problem on the BDT110 which seems to be related to fast-forwarding to a point and restarting. I'd need to play with it for a while to be certain. The Roku 2's Netflix player did not exhibit the problem (don't worry--the Roku 2 has other problems ).

Anyone else seen this audio-cutting-in-and-out problem?

I do notice that 5.1 sound is selected by default if available, which may or may not have come in with firmware rev 1.68.
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Originally Posted by SEMIJim View Post

So, as I wrote earlier, the blinks are shorter, but sometimes they're relatively frequent. Watched Skyline tonight (don't bother, btw--it's pretty bad) and had blinking, sometimes double-blinking, frequently enough for it to be annoying.

I watched a little of it, checking out sound; I'd watched the entire thing before--it's pretty awful, but it has some good VFX here and there. I watched maybe 15-20 minutes and don't recall seeing any blinks, but my bandwidth seem pretty consistently high right now.
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post #3149 of 8308
8/6/11 at 11:01pm
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Originally Posted by SEMIJim View Post

What does the 210 say the signal strength is? Are you trying to use 2.4GHz or 5GHz wireless-N?

Jim

The player just does not want to cooperate with the netgear router. I just bought a vizio wifi blu-ray player tonight for 108.00 to put in my daughters room. It connected flawlessly. Netflix and the other apps work great on the vizio. My room and my daughter's room is about the sane distance and signal strength to the router.

I need to call panny, but this has me confused. It should connect and stay connected without needing a static ip. I have dual band and it has trouble connecting to both...
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8/6/11 at 11:08pm
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Originally Posted by campfirehero View Post

The player just does not want to cooperate with the netgear router. I just bought a vizio wifi blu-ray player tonight for 108.00 to put in my daughters room. It connected flawlessly. Netflix and the other apps work great on the vizio. My room and my daughter's room is about the sane distance and signal strength to the router.

I need to call panny, but this has me confused. It should connect and stay connected without needing a static ip. I have dual band and it has trouble connecting to both...

I own the panasonic 210 model. I also have netgear router. its the "G" one. it works fine with it. I remember having connection problems with the past panasonic models including 80/85.

Jacob
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