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post #3211 of 8308
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Originally Posted by Stew4msu View Post
Nope, i don't care. As long as it works and lasts, that's all that matters. You're assuming it won't last because it's not made of steel. That's probably an erroneous assumption on your part. Quality is the end result, not what somethings made of - how are you enjoying your $1000 cables? I put it in my rack and forget about it. And even if it doesn't last as long as the oppo, i paid $90 for my 110. I could buy 5 of them and still come out ahead.

I think 95% of the members of this forum could afford an oppo, most just choose to spend their money a bit wiser. Oppo makes a great player, but unless you need a universal player its a waste of money. If you do need a universal player, you should have never purchased a panny.
I'm assuming it wont last based on Panasonics reliability track record among blu-ray player lenses. do a google search, or read around here, you'll see that in about 18 mo that laser takes a dump....gen after gen, same story. And they have never really figured out the Wi Fi compatibility issues with Net gear routers, 3 generations later!

As for $1000 cables, well unless monoprice.com did some credit card fraud on me I don't know about, my HDMI Cables (all four of them) Were about $22 shipped to my door. So When you Assume? Well...you know the rest (or do you?)

As for "Spending money wiser" Well, that's like beauty...it's in the eye of the beholder.

Only reason I purchased the 310 was because I needed/wanted dual HDMI out. I tried to do the cost effective thing and buy an inexpensive player so that I didn't have to throw the baby out with the bath water (my perfectly good 2 1/2 year old Yamaha receiver in order to retain Lossless audio AND use the 3D on my new set.

What I soon found out though, was "You get what you pay for".

The panasonic didn't live up to the claims in the marketing (FOR ME)

It may for you, and I hope you're right. I'll put it to you like this, there are 124 user reviews for the oppo 93 on Amazon.com right now. of those reviews, 109 people gave it 5 stars, 9 4 stars and only 1 1 star review. The Panasonic only has 25 reviews, and already has 4 1 star reviews, and I haven't even reviewed it there...so that'd be 5 if I took the time.

So, obviously...Oppo is doing something right and Panasonic, well I think as far as their BD players are concerned, they've fallen off big time.


I prefer peice of mind when I buy things, and out of the box...brand new the thing was either faulty or flawed or both. So how was it going to be once i put some milage on it? I'd rather not find out thank you.
post #3212 of 8308
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Originally Posted by BTBuck1 View Post
As of Firmware version 3.70 (released last night) The ps3 CAN pass and Decode HD Audio internally while Playing back 3D Content in 1080p.



http://www.gamespot.com/news/6328239...to-cloud-saves
Thats actually great news! Thanks.
post #3213 of 8308
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post
Thats actually great news! Thanks.
glad to help
post #3214 of 8308
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Originally Posted by BTBuck1 View Post
Wow, now i'm even more confused, but I guess it's a little off topic...but,
I just don't understand why you have either the Oppo or the Panasonic if you Also have a ps3, and they're all connected to the same TV. But hey, it's your money! Either way you got every angle covered! It's like wearing a belt AND suspenders!
I found the wifi to be really good on the 210 model over the past panasonic models. I had a few panasonic models before I got into the oppo player. I am using a netgear router.

the oppo has a very nice ease to it. it can do a bit of everything and also the customer service is just excellent. you write to them and they will answer pretty much about anything.

I guess I have my bases covered. I did do the firmware update for the ps3 so I can do DTSMA during 3d playback. the ps3 can also play games in 3d and both the oppo and panasonic dont do games. I dont see it at competition.

Jacob
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Originally Posted by dburckh View Post
For those of you that may not know this, you player is also a "Play To" Media Renderer. That means you can send video and photo's too it from a UPNP Control point (e.g. Windows 7, most Android phones). He is a dump of what it supports. Surprisingly there is no audio! Photo's do work well and by this it should work with Transport Streams.
This is a great find. Do you use serviio by chance?
post #3216 of 8308
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post
I found the wifi to be really good on the 210 model over the past panasonic models. I had a few panasonic models before I got into the oppo player. I am using a netgear router.

the oppo has a very nice ease to it. it can do a bit of everything and also the customer service is just excellent. you write to them and they will answer pretty much about anything.

I guess I have my bases covered. I did do the firmware update for the ps3 so I can do DTSMA during 3d playback. the ps3 can also play games in 3d and both the oppo and panasonic dont do games. I dont see it at competition.

Jacob
The 210 is my first Blueray player. Hooked it up a few days ago. Did the firmware update, and no issues. The wifi works great with my 6 year old Netgear router which is about 35 feet away with 4 walls separating it from the 210. I thought that i'd have to upgrade my router, but it is working very good. Streaming my Netflix free 30 day trail very, very good. Youtube streams great as well. I'm very satisfied with the 210! Blue ray discs play wonderfully on my Samsung D550 plasma. Hopefully my 210 will last at least 4 years.
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Trying to update the firmware on my new Panasonic BDT110 and keep getting message "can not connect...please confirm network connection and settings". When I check connections, everything comes back fine. Any ideas? I have a WIRED connection and tried everything from rebotting router, player. Thanks for any help.
post #3218 of 8308
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Originally Posted by BTBuck1 View Post

I'm assuming it wont last based on Panasonics reliability track record among blu-ray player lenses.

I've had the Panny 35 for a couple of years (now in the kids game room), and it's never had a hiccup.

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Originally Posted by BTBuck1 View Post

As for $1000 cables, well unless monoprice.com did some credit card fraud on me I don't know about, my HDMI Cables (all four of them) Were about $22 shipped to my door.

Ah, so it's not about build quality and the components used, is it? Gold cables are no better than monoprice. As long as it works, right?

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Originally Posted by BTBuck1 View Post

I'll put it to you like this, there are 124 user reviews for the oppo 93 on Amazon.com right now. of those reviews, 109 people gave it 5 stars, 9 4 stars and only 1 1 star review. The Panasonic only has 25 reviews, and already has 4 1 star reviews, and I haven't even reviewed it there...so that'd be 5 if I took the time.

Having owned two Oppo's, I'm very familiar with them. And yes, they make a fantastic player. Very few individuals need one, however. BD PQ? Other options. Dual HDMI? Other options. DVD Upscaling? Other options. Unless someone needs a true universal player, the Oppo is a waste of money - unless someone wants to pay extra for piece of mind.
post #3219 of 8308
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Originally Posted by Gary218 View Post

Trying to update the firmware on my new Panasonic BDT110 and keep getting message "can not connect...please confirm network connection and settings". When I check connections, everything comes back fine. Any ideas? I have a WIRED connection and tried everything from rebotting router, player. Thanks for any help.

Are you able to connect to any of the Viera Cast services? It could be that the firmware update server at Panasonic is not available.
post #3220 of 8308
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Originally Posted by Gary218 View Post

Trying to update the firmware on my new Panasonic BDT110 and keep getting message "can not connect...please confirm network connection and settings". When I check connections, everything comes back fine. Any ideas? I have a WIRED connection and tried everything from rebotting router, player. Thanks for any help.

well, what d ya know....so I'm not alone. Sorry I never figured it out...I chalked it up to a weak wifi radio inside or poor design. Panasonic tech support gave no mention of any server being down when I trouble shooted it with tech support....they were at a loss, as was I. I packed it up, sent it back and moved on from it. I reccomend you do the same...it's not worth the headaches.
post #3221 of 8308
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when the laser dies soon, remember who told you. It's in the kids game room, so it sounds to me it's a secondary (not the main player) it's not getting the usage a living room player would. But hey, ya gotta have faith right George Michael?

Who cares? Buying a component that needs to last several years in a day and age when it will become obsolete sooner than that is buying something for the wrong reason. This isn't a car, this is a $100 item.
post #3222 of 8308
I was drawn to this thread as a new 110 owner, and I found more than a few useful bits of information and had a chance to participate in interesting discussions.

That said, the debate over the Oppo versus this Panasonic line seems to have come to the point of both sides beating a dead horse. At the risk of drawing anyone's ire, can we call it a draw?
post #3223 of 8308
+1 This is an owners thread and since BTBuck is no longer an owner, maybe it's time to move to the Oppo thread.
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

This is a great find. Do you use serviio by chance?

I'm just using the built in Window 7 version. I'll give Serviio a try. At the moment I'm looking for a way to stream WTV shows from WMC to my Android Tablet.

FYI: This is a MediaRenderer, which is different from a MediaServer ControlPoint (which it is as well). Tons of things are control points (PS3, XBox, many receivers), but few are MediaRenderers (this, WMP, High End Receivers, WD Live). This a "Play To" device. e.g. you can send media to it, not just browse media from a server. A MediaRenderer is nice because you can remotely control it via some sort of app (e.g. WMP).
post #3225 of 8308
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Originally Posted by BTBuck1 View Post

As for "Spending money wiser" Well, that's like beauty...it's in the eye of the beholder.

I was nearly certain that I wanted the OPPO-93 just before purchasing the Panasonic 310. I had even ordered one and cancelled right before shipping. I would have only used the OPPO for BD movies both in 2D and 3D and use VUDU and probably Blockbuster internet services. NO watching of other formats or use of the analog outputs. In your opinion, having owned both...should I have stuck with my original plan and purchased the OPPO or am I overspending and not getting use out of my increased investment?
post #3226 of 8308
I think the flimsy build complaint is mainly about aesthetics. If you're used to high end components, most are large and built like a tank. It looks and feels like quality. Low end stuff like our beloved panasonics are just plastic and thin sheet metal with no heft or high-end feel. Every device at this price point is built essentially the same. Now I totally agree that build quality makes absolutely no practical difference in most cases. And just because a component is small and light doesn't mean poor built quality. Panasonic is put together very well, and the picture and sound is what matters most. However it's really apples and oranges to compare panasonic to oppo. I think Pinstripe said it best.

CJ, I think panny is out of the question for you because it doesn't have blockbuster (honestly I didn't even know blockbuster had streaming).
post #3227 of 8308
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Originally Posted by CJArciola, III View Post

I was nearly certain that I wanted the OPPO-93 just before purchasing the Panasonic 310. I had even ordered one and cancelled right before shipping. I would have only used the OPPO for BD movies both in 2D and 3D and use VUDU and probably Blockbuster internet services. NO watching of other formats or use of the analog outputs. In your opinion, having owned both...should I have stuck with my original plan and purchased the OPPO or am I overspending and not getting use out of my increased investment?

the blockbuster service is okay. I only used it once. I prefer vudu.

Jacob
post #3228 of 8308
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I think the flimsy build complaint is mainly about aesthetics. If you're used to high end components, most are large and built like a tank. It looks and feels like quality. Low end stuff like our beloved panasonics are just plastic and thin sheet metal with no heft or high-end feel. Every device at this price point is built essentially the same. Now I totally agree that build quality makes absolutely no practical difference in most cases. And just because a component is small and light doesn't mean poor built quality. Panasonic is put together very well, and the picture and sound is what matters most. However it's really apples and oranges to compare panasonic to oppo. I think Pinstripe said it best.

Exactly.
post #3229 of 8308
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

CJ, I think panny is out of the question for you because it doesn't have blockbuster (honestly I didn't even know blockbuster had streaming).

His post seems to be about his preference for the 310 (which he owns) over the Oppo--I think that he was saying that if he'd kept the Oppo he might have used Blockbuster, which I assume it has a streaming app for.
post #3230 of 8308
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Originally Posted by CJArciola, III View Post

I was nearly certain that I wanted the OPPO-93 just before purchasing the Panasonic 310. I had even ordered one and cancelled right before shipping. I would have only used the OPPO for BD movies both in 2D and 3D and use VUDU and probably Blockbuster internet services. NO watching of other formats or use of the analog outputs. In your opinion, having owned both...should I have stuck with my original plan and purchased the OPPO or am I overspending and not getting use out of my increased investment?

If the 310 is working for you, then you got it made.
I was prepared to "live with" the chincy design but I couldn't see past the fact I couldn't use one of the main selling points of the product (wi fi)
If it had worked as I thought it would, I would just have settled for it and used it til it crapped out in a year or 2. But since it didn't, and my only other option was the Oppo (which I really wanted for sometime anyways) and since i needed dual HDMI out. I just went with my first initial choice.
post #3231 of 8308
Ive owned both:

The BDT's are exactly what they are meant to be, excellent BR players at an excellent price, with good customer service.

The Oppo is an excellent universal player with good customer service.

If you just wanna watch Blu-ray and DVD, the BDT's are more than enough, regardless of what anyone claims. I've owned MANY players in the last 1.5 yrs, and the BDT is by far the best player for the dollar.
post #3232 of 8308
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Originally Posted by AtDaBeach View Post

Ive owned both:

The BDT's are exactly what they are meant to be, excellent BR players at an excellent price, with good customer service.

The Oppo is an excellent universal player with good customer service.

If you just wanna watch Blu-ray and DVD, the BDT's are more than enough, regardless of what anyone claims. I've owned MANY players in the last 1.5 yrs, and the BDT is by far the best player for the dollar.

Well have you used Panasonic's customer service? First off you can't talk to a person on the phone ...it gives you a repair person in your area phone number...instead you have to do the online support and run through 100 newbie steps just to be told in robotic responses that i should request an exchange or return from the original purchaser. I don't consider that good service personally.
post #3233 of 8308
Just let it go.
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Originally Posted by iamian View Post

Just let it go.

Agreed.
post #3235 of 8308
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Originally Posted by AtDaBeach View Post

Agreed.

Seconded. This is an owners thread. Not a place to trash the product, but a place for owners to discuss issues, news, etc. Let's keep it to that.
post #3236 of 8308
no idea what i'm doing wrong...but i cannot get audio out from the second HDMI port on the 310....any ideas? i've got HDMI (SUB) V. OFF and HDMI Audio Output On....i get nothing...at first i had it going through a switch so now am trying direct to the receiver and still nothing...

at one point just a second ago i had little dings on Viera cast...thought it was fixed so tried to play a movie..no audio...went back to viera cast and no audio...WTF?
post #3237 of 8308
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Originally Posted by BillP View Post

The way technology changes so rapidly, you won't still be using your player in 5-6 years anyway.
Don't get me wrong. The Oppo is a great player. But for some of us, it may not be worth 4 times the price of other excellent players.

I'm still using my ps3 since 06 I camped for that bad boy. And my HD-A1 still see's active Duty!
post #3238 of 8308
More off topic posts removed. Some members have lost posting privileges in this thread.

no

more

bickering


Got it?
post #3239 of 8308
Hey Owners!

I apologize if this has been covered before in the thread, but I'm looking into getting a 3D Blu Ray player for my new Vizio 42" active 3D TV for school next year. I was looking into the PS3, but the lack of an IR port, and the price of adding one, made it really unattractive to me and my need for a universal remote control. I'm intrigued by this line of players because of the 2D to 3D conversion feature.

I have two questions. How does this player's 2D to 3D conversion stack up to competitor's? Are the conversion algorithms these manufacturers use pretty much six of one in terms of the quality of the end result or is the Samsung or LG offerings that came out after this line noticeably better? Also, is this player able to convert film DVDs to 1080p24 and if not are there any players that can do the 2D to 3D conversion that also can convert film DVDs to 1080p24?

Once again, I'm sorry if this has been covered before or if this is inappropriate for the thread, I'm just looking for these questions to get answered! Thanks everyone!
post #3240 of 8308
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I think the flimsy build complaint is mainly about aesthetics. If you're used to high end components, most are large and built like a tank. It looks and feels like quality. Low end stuff like our beloved panasonics are just plastic and thin sheet metal with no heft or high-end feel. Every device at this price point is built essentially the same. Now I totally agree that build quality makes absolutely no practical difference in most cases. And just because a component is small and light doesn't mean poor built quality. Panasonic is put together very well, and the picture and sound is what matters most. However it's really apples and oranges to compare panasonic to oppo. I think Pinstripe said it best.

CJ, I think panny is out of the question for you because it doesn't have blockbuster (honestly I didn't even know blockbuster had streaming).

Would love to see Panasonic put out a high end player like they did back in the DVD days with the RP91.
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