Official Panasonic DMP-BDT110/210/310 Owners Thread - Page 147

Had the same problem and same TV and player,- it was my receiver, a Pioneer vsx-920 that was HDMI 1.4a Tried multiple players and cables. Replaced the receiver and all cables worked, all players worked. Pioneer wanted to replace the HDMI board but it was more than a month out of warranty. See if you can borrow another player, it may be your receiver too.

1.5Mbps is borderline for standard stream let alone hd content stream especially when considering some are dealing with shared cable resources versus discrete dsl that can vary huge different times of day when people are all on. On a mid level performance package I vary from as low as about 3Mbps to as high as 8-10Mbps with 5-6Mbps being the norm. Have the boost feature as well for the first little bit of file besides them lower figures so am set well enough here. My plan is only an 'upto' amount which many don't take into account when buying a plan. 12Mbps is overkill really for netflix..3-4mbps seems to be all that is needed and so am not really inspiring people to go out and buy the fastest plan. It's either ya want to try and give the netflix system something not demanding lots of switching or ya don't. But yes we might as well call the $8 per month cost of netflix more like $18 ($10 more for a tier jump from economy speed) unless standard def is all one wants.

Thanks. I have tried another 210 and I was able to get 3D to pass a few times but it is hit and miss.... now the 3D won't pass on the second player. All the cables I have tried are high speed 1.4a (3 different brands)...

Should I try another brand? I.e. Sony 580? I have heard that the 210 HDMI driver is extremely weak.

not sure what to do now... totally lost. :-(

try ejecting the disc and then loading it up again.. I have this problem as well.
you are not the only one.
Jacob

Try a different brand if you can. Like you I had all new cables from monoprice, BlueJeans, Parts express. Connected directly to the TV I had no problem with any player or set of cables. Connected thru the AVR, it worked initially, then intermitently, then nothing.

The two 3D players I used though were a 110 & 210, so a different brand may work if it is as Jacob305 says and the HDMI output is weak.

Anyone who owns a 110 ... do you know if it will read MKV 3D files via USB ? I know that via DLNA it does not recognize those MKV files. But I would like to know if it can see them via USB ? If yes ... I plan to purchase an Ext. HD.

Also ... does 110 read from exFAT formatted USB drives ?

I'm trying to decide between the BDT110 and the BDT210. What are the differences between the two models?

I compared them on Panasonic's website, and it appears that the only difference is the touch-free sensor and built-in Wi-Fi.

There has to be more differences... right?

^^^ wifi

Good question..wish I knew something/anything on 3d to be able to help. I can say its about the same machine as 210 so would imagine yes on the mkv portion of question but the 3d part might be a crap shoot. How 3d is implemented in practice I do not know. Like is 3d a selectable option off the top menu that pops up with the 'display' button and that is only available instruction that a disk can work with? or is it automatic result of correctly authoring an mkv's tags or such and you then just select 3d on your tv?Whatever the answer is it may also apply to my question on whether I can acheive 24p over exFat usb. Would be easy to say that if it is 3d or 24p content already that converters and or this player would just offer it up but I haven't seen 24p option button yet for my mkv outputs yet my tv display works automatic with such content off disk. I probably got to pay a visit to the Matroskey forums and learn how to edit and mix the stuff that makes for a mkv container if it is possable. Yours might be a more straight forward thing..

I have a quick question for someone with knowledge of these units and I apologize up front. I dont have the time right now to read 147 pages but need to know what the basic differences are between the 210 and 310? I apologize for the noob question.

(This has been answered several times in this thread and normally I'd tell you to look again but I had trouble finding one of those answers with a thread search so I'll cut you some slack ).

In addition to wifi and the touch-free sensor, there are a few firmware items. "Digital Tube Sound" is something that only works if you're not sending Dolby and DTS directly to your AVR and letting the player decode it (well, it also works on LPCM sound read from the disc). "High Clarity Sound" simply turns off the analog outputs if you're using HDMI sound--they claim that the analog signal can interfere with the digital. And lastly, the "Playback Information Window" which is a display of information about the currently playing disc (codec, bit rate, colorspace, etc)--I'd love to have that but I don't know that I'd pay the difference between the two models for it.

310 has dual HDMI for older non-3D receivers.

^Thanks. So if this is all it seems the 210 is a better bang/buck option with a new AVR?!?!

Thanks again

Yeah, if you can plug an HDMI cable from the BD player into your receiver and get lossless sound as well as 3D video out to your display, then the extra HDMI port is redundant. The player won't output video from the secondary port if you are already sending it out of your primary HDMI port.

Thanks for the answer. I figured it was answered somewhere in the thread, but wasn't able to find it. Figured it'd be easier to just ask again before trying to skim through all 147 pages.

Michael, So the 110 doesn't have the tube sound and ability to turn off analog outputs while outputting hdmi? Is the tube sound something to best have off for 210er's to get sound as intended or you saying it just does not come into play if we are letting the player decode dolby or dts? Isn't all content pretty much going to be of the digital type?(cable-DD5.1, standard disk-DD5.1/dts, BR-trudolby,dts/dts-ma). Pretty sure I've heard the tube sound and have it on as default so I must be setup to have avr do the decode.. Yikes I should know how I am set up but can't say for sure just now as the kids have control. I think I want to let the receiver do it and gain it's audessy sound field adjustments. Wondering if I can have all three..Like the player decodes, adjusts it to tube, and then the receiver works the sound through it's audessy field(onk sr650) for my room dynamics? btw, am showing bitstream, dolby digital 5.1, and 1080/60p right now off a standard disk copy...Apparently it lets us know how the content was treated by the player like it took the 23.976 progressive and did a pulldown to it to turn it into 60 progressive for the tv..is pretty cool but unneeded really... Any idea on optioning out the 24p during my mkv'ing from disk? Am thinking I will never get the answer on if it possable or how to do it here, at least in this thread (yea am baiting/trolling..lol

I just installed my 310. I have the main hdmi hooked up to my Mitsubishi 65-838. The sub hdmi to my yamaha RX-V1800. My problem is the audio while watching any bluray movie keeps going off and on constantly like every 3 to 4 seconds. I have tried two different hdmi cables coming from the sub hdmi output to my 1800 both cables do the same thing. The first one I tried was from monoprice & the second is a monster cable i was using with my PS3 which I know works with that. The picture from the main hdmi output works perfect all the time just not the sub hdmi for my audio. The reason i got the 310 was because my Yamaha rx-v1800 receiver does not support 3D. Oh and I am bitstreaming the audio to my receiver & I have the latest firmware installed on the 310.(1.70) Is there a setting I am missing? Has anyone else had this problem? Is there a fix for this? Thanks in advance for any replies. Forgot to mention all the movies I have tried which is a lot of them have been DTS-MA audio. The one I am messing with right now is The Expendables. Every 3 to 4 seconds the audio turns off and back on constantly. As if I were turning just the audio off and on over and over for the entire length of the film.

Yes, but nothing of consequence.

Choosing between the x10 models can be distilled into two simple questions:

Do you need built in wireless? Yes--get the 210 for the wi-fi.

Can your receiver handle 3D? If not--get the 310 for the additional HDMI output.

Otherwise, the 110 is no different in any major respect; same remote, same Avatar eligibility, same picture quality. The rest is fluff.

Correct.

Just the opposite--it only comes into play if you're letting the player decode the Dolby and DTS sound encodings (and when you're playing LPCM as recorded on the disc).

I have no idea how Audessy operates (I bought an AVR recently which is the first I've owned with Audessy), but I'd expect it to work with LPCM. The reason why you'd want to bitstream to your receiver is that it's likely to do a better job decoding.

So ... can someone tell me the level of support for MKV files on the 110?

Also,
Can the 110 read from hard drives connected via USB? Mine does not.

How's your drive formatted? It read frm a FAT32 formatted USB flash drive (which, I think, should be indistinguishable from a USB HDD interface-wise); I doubt that it can handle NTFS. From page 7 of the manual (forgive me for not reformatting it):

I placed 5 clips on a FAT32 formatted USB drive--4 of them played perfectly, one would not--see this post for their attributes as given by MediaInfo.

Thanks ... but I would like to know if it supports USB Hard Drives (as in regular spindle drives). That is what I tried (formatted to FAT32 16K)

damn...went to amazon to sell my avatar...and just noticed its been flooded with copies for like $75...so much for my $100+....lol...guess i can't complain though...still free so its all profit...

I'm pretty sure that to the device that it's plugged into a USB storage device is a USB storage device; hard drives and flash drives look the same to a computer and are controlled with the same set of commands.

If you go back to my post you'll see that I quoted a piece of the manual which said that it is supposed to support USB HDDs. (Some HDDs support an optional set of advanced commands, unlikely to be used by this application).

Search is your friend, and makes it so you don't have to skim through 147 pages

The HDD I tried was a 2.5mm laptop drive in a USB enclosure without external power. Today I will try another enclosure with external power. Will let you know. Thanks //

Thanks. I tried this but it will not pass 3D. I got another 210 but it only passes 3D sometimes... very frustrating. 210 units are going back to the store.



I bought a Sony BDP-S580 and tested it about 20 times and had 0 HDMI handshaking issues. It passes Full 3D every time! I was looking forward this Panasonic player but with all these HDMI handshaking issues and time wasted... The 210 is going back to the store.

Shame on Panasonic for releasing a weak/sensitive HDMI implementation in the 110/210 models.

thanks for the suggestions.

I can confirm that my usb flash drives work flawless formatted in exFat wich you'll want to use for large file support. And I also can confirm that although my usb Seagate Freeagent drives(2.5", powerless) in ntsc are not seen of course BUT they are indeed spinning/lighting up so there is power there (on 210). I plan to format an old laptop drive I have in a 2.5' Super Speed enclosure to exFat in next day or so.. will know more then but I don't forsee a problem..

As I said, I only gave him the answer because I tried searching the thread for it and was having a really hard time coming up with search terms which didn't yield dozens of results.

Can anyone please help me out with my post (#4397) I still for the life of me can not figure out what the problem is? Thanks again for any replies