Official Panasonic DMP-BDT110/210/310 Owners Thread - Page 154

Originally Posted by swolfcg

So does the panny players stream 1080 at 5.1 with Netflix?

Originally Posted by mdavej

Nope. AFAIK, PS3 is your only option for discs and 1080P NF in one device.

Originally Posted by ktm911


I read the FAQ: http://haali.su/mkv/faq.html
To my understanding it reads there had been issues and last listed update reads 05'. Can't help wonder why Foxbat would say something implying there being some issues to consider as late as '09. It's worth an explaination here or at least something of an assurance there.

Originally Posted by swolfcg

Well, since I don't play video games, getting a PS3 would be sort of useless.

Originally Posted by swolfcg

After a lot of searching, I'm thinking this is my best option. I'll get the 210 so I can have the option of putting it any room. Hopefully I don't get one with a Neflix streaming or Update issue, some have reported. Thanks all.

Originally Posted by Brandenborg

I'm sorry, but you don't seem to understand anything I've been saying.

Let's try this instead then: You post it here when you have a fast and easy way to convert MPEG2 files (TS or PS) into MKVs that our Panasonic players can actually play through Network Drive without stuttering or breakups or audio sync problems or other issues. Oh, and without re-encoding the original MPEG2 stream, just simple re-mux of video and audio. And preferably free.

I posted how to do that using the re-muxer included with Haali (which is free) because it's the best tool I've found so far that outputs files which actually play on the Panny - out of many tools that I tested.

I don't care if anybody have other problems with Haali not related to this. Also, I don't care about old debates on whether Haali is appropriate as a decoder in Win7 (the question you raised) because that is not the problem I'm trying to solve. It has nothing to do with these Panasonic players.

But if you can tell me a better way to convert MPEG2s into MKVs, that would be great information - particularly if it can extract closed captions from TS files and insert them as MKV subtitles in the same pass. That's the only thing I am currently missing with Haali (though it seems like it should be able to do it).

But please make sure you test it thoroughly before posting - the actual conversion as well as playback on the Panny through Network Drive (I already know how to play them through DLNA, as I've described).

I like speculating and hypothesizing as much as anyone over a beer with friends in a bar. But solutions that are actually tested and verified are more useful for sharing here. At least that's what I look for in forums like this.

I look forward to hearing your results.

I don't care if anybody have other problems with Haali not related to this.

I like speculating and hypothesizing as much as anyone over a beer with friends in a bar. But solutions that are actually tested and verified are more useful for sharing here.

But if you can tell me a better way to convert MPEG2s into MKVs, that would be great information - particularly if it can extract closed captions from TS files and insert them as MKV subtitles in the same pass.

Update: Oh, I forgot: The use of Haali that I described has nothing whatsoever to do with that old discussion of decoders for win 7. No point in bothering Foxbat with that.

Originally Posted by swolfcg

So does the panny players stream 1080 at 5.1 with Netflix? I'm just looking for a player that can give me great upscalling and stream Netflix consistently with a good pic/sound. I've looked at Roku 2 in the past and other players, but I just haven't found it yet.

Originally Posted by michaeltscott

The BDTx10s can't stream the 1080p Netflix encodings yet but only a few other things can. Netflix has recently revealed that it widely released that API to OEMs for using the 1080p encodings just this past summer; it's possible that Panasonic will update the Viera Connect Netflix player to do it. Forum member RangerOne posted a "When is 1080P Netflix coming to my device?" entry on his TechOfTheHub blog--he hasn't been able to get any info out of Panasonic about their plans.

Originally Posted by lwang

Playing off network drive/NAS, it can't be of high-bitrate and only MKV?

What about DLNA? Is it worse than just playing a network share's video file?

And panasonic's website indicates the BDT110 cannot play stream off video from the network (either DNLA or network drive), only music and pictures. Is that the case?

Originally Posted by rayven

Could someone confirm for me if the BDT310 has the capability of bitstreaming 7:1 in Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master audio formats?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Originally Posted by rayven

Could someone confirm for me if the BDT310 has the capability of bitstreaming 7:1 in Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master audio formats?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Originally Posted by rayven

Could someone confirm for me if the BDT310 has the capability of bitstreaming 7:1 in Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD Master audio formats?

Thanks in advance for your help!

Originally Posted by svphile

can the 110/210 play xvid(video)/mp3(audio) in an avi container via usb?

Originally Posted by anikun07


Don't all the x10 models bitstream up to 7.1? I thought it was just PCM output that varied between the models?

Originally Posted by ktm911

This the most one track, reckless thing I heard all week. thanx heaps..lol

I've been nothing but entertaining and open to your sole purpose of straight mpeg to mkv container for purpose of subs but your not gonna legitimize others needs that are up the same alley? Other people have other ideas and uses for the straight mpeg stripping as well but I highly doubt anyone wants to jeapardize their system settings for sake of your one use.
How haali can effect someones system adversely is a fair question..

..RECKLESS..

Tell ya what, you share what you know for narcism sake and everyone else can share what they know for benefit of whoever might happen upon it. You may own stake to some helpfulness here and there throughout but certainly don't capitalize or have a monopoly on it.. Go ahead and share up how to get 24p option onto a mkv selectable in our 210 display menu if you do.

"If you have trouble with subtitles, try setting Autoload VSfilter on from Compability menu."

I'm sorry..you don't understand anything I am saying. Let's try it this way: The Faq is part of/applies to/found on the Haali Media Splitter (standalone) program site. If your saying this (Q: AVCHD playback/editing is broken in some software after install the splitter
A: Disable MPEG-TS/PS support when installing the splitter.) is not applicable then why is it there.
On a further note my Shark 007 default settings do not point to haali and so I for one doubt I want to let an installation of haali default me all to heck unknowingly.

Originally Posted by Brandenborg

AVC (Any Video Converter, mentioned by smckean) looked promising at first, but has audio sync problems. Handbrake creates Panny-compatible files, but cannot not re-mux TS into MKV, only re-encode as MPEG4/H.264.

That said, Haali isn't particularly wonderful or elegant, it's documentation is non-existent, and I have no particular love or attachment to it. I just found it to be the fastest and easiest tool (out of a dozen or so I tested) for sticking MPEG2 into MKV files that actually play on the Panny – and play without issues.

Originally Posted by smckean

I've come to the same conclusion. I have now discarded my use of Any Video Converter (AVC) primarily because of audio sync problems (just as you have found). I'm still grateful to AVC because it was with that tool that I was first able to play any MPG2 file on the Panny via the Network Drive facility with no transcoding required . I too became dissatisfied with HandBrake. It was with HandBrake that I created the first MKV file that actually played on the Panny. But it is too "Apple" orientied, and does nothing for me in terms of constructing a MKV contained MPG2 file without transcoding that will play on the Panny.

Thanks to your tip on Haali, I now have used that tool to create MKV contained MPG2 and MP4 files that play on the Panny with no problems. In the past with other tools I have had audio sync and some sort of jitter problems. Haali works for me and I'm grateful.

I'm going to continue to test other solutions (I think I'll try DVDFab next) since the Haali interface is about as primitive as you can get. I've not even found a way to have it save the output destination, nor can one drag/drop input files onto it. Ultimately I'd like to have a tool that can batch the conversion of files. Haali is a long way from having all that. But it works, and that is a wonderful attribute

BTW Brandenborg, I thought your summary to Iwang a few posts upstream was brilliant. My guess is that that post summarizes just about all that is known about these Panny units in terms of doing what you and I are attempting to do.......and does it in just a few very clearly stated sentences.

Originally Posted by Brandenborg

I honestly don't know why you are so hellbound on attacking me and convincing everybody that the results I posted are dangerous and reckless. Not hellbound against you or trying to convince anybody anything. what do you think your the only one with right to ask questions and post what they know?Nothing I said was against your methods or whatever so bugger off

The latest version of Haali is from March 2011. I haven't experienced any problems with it nor heard of others that have. Certainly it is not an established fact that it wrecks your PC, as you seem to claim. You haven't even tried it you say. claimed no such thing, was looking for some insight from foxbat until you opened your narcistic mouth, try googling up what the install of haali can do. I have..and there are some with issues. Don't think I want to break off from or actually break my Media Foundation setup just yet. You don't know if it can break the dtv splitter and not be able to get it back properly so try addressing that. That's all I was after and it wasn't from you cause it clear that you don't know or have "really' researched it.

The Haali FAQ you refer to is 6 years old (and describes a fix for those having problems playing AVCHD). And the discussion thread you refer to (where Foxbat mentions a Win7 compatibility problem) is from 2009 (probably based on pre-releases of Win7) and discusses whether Haali is still needed to play MKVs in Win7. exactly... what is it you think most of us here are using..wxp and mpeg2? Most of us are messing with non-complient mkv and on win7 (64bit) and need to focus on AVCHD as that structure and standards is what makes some the files friendlier so to speak with the player. That said, I had not discounted your goals so why you doing that to me?

Of course compability is always something to consider, with this or any other software you install. But heck, you don't even have to register Haali during installation (with Windows or WMP), you can just skip those options and use the included (re)muxer straight and leave the rest alone. The muxer is all I use it for anyway. why even mention this now.. pretty much validates some possable need for some forethought before switching your system over to haail. What you really mean to say perhaps is don't let it install shell/support for mpeg ts. If ya think the majority of folks visiting this thread even know what that means then your not in reality. Drop a file on graphedit for your h.264 content on win7 (64) and post back a picture if you would..oh wait what ya running?

That said, Haali isn't particularly wonderful or elegant, it's documentation is non-existent, and I have no particular love or attachment to it. I just found it to be the fastest and easiest tool (out of a dozen or so I tested) for sticking MPEG2 into MKV files that actually play on the Panny – and play without issues.your saying it faster than MakeMKV OR DVDFAB? Have seen movies done anywhere from 2-7minute.

If you can point to better ways or tools to do the same, I'd be most grateful. AVC (Any Video Converter, mentioned by smckean) looked promising at first, but has audio sync problems. Handbrake creates Panny-compatible files, but cannot not re-mux TS into MKV, only re-encode as MPEG4/H.264. I've been looking at mkvtoolnix recently, but so far not been able to produce a Panny-compliant MKV. umm have your tried multiAVCHD? There are some prerequisites though for it like haali (supposedly) but I have gotten it to work for many things and it really is not mentioned enough here. It really can take this player to another level with menus and fixing non AVCHD complient mkv, etc.

Once again, please post your solution -- if you have one. Yes, MKV subtitles are on my personal wishlist, but not a must since I don't have them with Haali now. (No, enabling VSfilter doesn't fix it. Try it before you post.) That suggestion is exactly that a suggestion, and by someone else at that(note it has quotes), so it was posted fairly to try and help you. take it or leave it,,but it was haali specific since I know you claim to be running it as standalone. I have no idea why you have so much trouble with subs and mkv when multiAVCHD should handle it fine.

To be honest, this discussion is getting tiring. I wasn't even responding to you in the first place, but to another poster who'd worked on a very similar problem to mine. I am just a regular member here and cannot tell you what to post. But I'd appreciate if you get off my back unless you have something constructive to contribute or some factual correction to the information I post. ditto..

Meanwhile, I understand you have some problem with 24p. I saw you post about it a few times, but I don't quite understand what your problem is. If you'd care to elaborate, I'll be happy to see if I can find a solution for you - or at least an answer.

Originally Posted by ktm911

Want 24p as option on mkv over usb drive just like it is on standard or br disks via our players 'Display' button/video tab

Originally Posted by ktm911 to Brandenborg

....what is it you think most of us here are using: wxp and mpeg2? Most of us are messing with non-complient mkv and on win7 (64bit) and need to focus on AVCHD as that structure and standards is what makes some the files friendlier so to speak with the player.

Originally Posted by charles norwich

I have the 310,Onkyo 875 and Panasonic AE4000 projector.Using the HDMI 1 output I get perfect 2D/3D pictures to the projector,but no sound to the Onkyo using HDMI 2 from the Panasonic 310.
I have checked that the 310 is working correctly by connecting the unit direct to the TV(Picture/sound present)
Any ideas?
Charles

Originally Posted by Brandenborg

OK, so you have 24p MKV files (MPEG2, H.264, MP4?) and Panny will not play them? Is that it? Or does it play them but sends them to the TV as 60p, even with 24p enabled in Settings? I am just trying to understand your problem. They play but get the pulldown treatment for 60hz displays. Transcoders for h.264 into mkv container or strippers/splitters for mpeg2 straight into mkv apparently read the source files which are encoded at 23.976 (24p)and automatically pass a similar set but yet not quite the same set of instruction or flags(?) to the new file for the player to do it's magic and spits it out at the 29.97. I say not quite the same set because if ya stick a standard disk in or a blueray in there does become 'option' to turn 24p on or off on players blue display menu. The 210 also has the playback information option on disks but not mvk so there is another thing missing when going to mkv over usb. It's not as if the 'display' option is not available during usb cause it is. It's just that we are missing some options there on original source. Doesn't seem to matter if picking original (same as source) on framerates or goign strictly with 23.976. The encodings by all programs I have mentioned to this point do not seem to readily offer a 24p option. Could be a simple or complex setting in one of the more inclusive type programs but I haven't heard mention of how to do. Here is LiON talking about desire for same thing :http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post16302217 ..

Yes, AVCHD is interesting, I agree. I actually spent a lot of time with MultiAVCHD when I first got my player. It IS impressive, but I wasn't able to produce a single video that would play on the Panny -- even selecting the Panasonic specific options in MultiAVCHD. It seems to me that AVCHD is very fickle and vendor specific. And since it doesn't work over Network Drive, I decided to move on.

You have to understand that in the US, 90% or more of what is showing on cable and 100% of OTA is MPEG2 TS -- and that's how it is captured. Many people like me want to simply play such recordings as simply as possible -- and preferably in original quality without re-encoding or transcoding.

I used to do archiving and cutting and converting to DivX and all that back when HD recordings were precious rarities. But now I just want to watch something I recorded, then usually delete it afterwards. Or I want to watch old recordings I saved a few years ago (preserved as TS).

I can play them on the PC just fine (incl closed captions); or over DLNA on the Panny in original quality. MKV is just a necessary intermediate step for Panny to play them from Network Drive -- the only way to get it to pick up subtitles. That's my motivation. Others have their reasons, but still the same need.

I am on Win7/64, as I've stated in multiple recent posts: That's why DLNA works so well for me. But I have WinXP, OSX and Mythbuntu computers I use for testing.

I'll try to recreate your 24p problem. Probably some time next weekend.

Originally Posted by MSloss

I have a 210 connected to an Onkyo receiver via optical/bitstream, and HDMI to my Panny 3d Plasma.

I just received my Avatar 3D disc to test and it had no audio. I verified the optical was working with an a standard DVD and it was fine. I tried a non-3d Blu Ray and it didn't have sound either. I have tried changing to PCM, still no audio.

Any ideas?

Mike