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post #6781 of 8458
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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

"One thing that VUDU never does is change the resolution of the source encoding on the fly"

Had forgotten about that with Vudu. It lets you test your connection speed so you can select the best your connection can do.

So its apples to oranges. My bad.

They better not!
Most of the time you are paying for the resolution upgrade unlike Netflix.
post #6782 of 8458
"It doesn't hurt to have multiple devices which do the same thing."

Hurt? How about costly in both money and time?

I have an Argosy 335T. It was not expensive and I have 1TB hard drive in it. I spend NO time worrying about converting this or that video format file to that or this format so it can play off a USB thumb drive. In fact I marvel at the lengths some folks go to make one file into another so the "new" file is compatible with a particular device.

I'd much rather have and pay for one device that is designed to accomplish tasks, like internet video streaming, properly and at the same time by design and market niche is also going to be updated to stay current.

I'd like to stop paying for all the development cost that go into putting a bazillion features into my bluray player, my TV, my receiver, my cable box, satellite dish, etc., and have all the development and research cost be focused on why I buy the unit in the first place.

I'd much rather my bluray player be the very best at bluray and dvd upscaling then to be adequate on those things and then stick on adequate internet streaming just to be on track with the other devices that attempt to be all things to all people.
post #6783 of 8458
Personally I wouldn't have bought this player if its only feature was BD and DVD. Cost, space and hdmi connection limits are reasons to have fewer devices.

And it doesn't have to take much time to prepare files for playing on Panny, once you know which formats it supports. I spend 5 mins (at most) converting a 2 hour movie I recorded, even less on a one hour TV episode.

Edit: Btw, those 5 mins include time I'd have to spent regardless of player to clean bad frames from the recording.

Of course I spent some time testing different formats and tools before, but even that wasn't so bad: It all came together over the course of a week or so - with the help of members here.

The traffic you see here on the topic of file playback merely reflects how many new owners want to use this feature. After all it DOES say MKV and DLNA on the box - can't blame buyers for wanting to use it.
post #6784 of 8458
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Originally Posted by brahby View Post

Wait, so you actually copied the receipt on to the back of the rebate form? Did you use the one included with the player or download it from the internet? Or did you mean you just stapled a copy of the receipt to the form?

Um, seriously? Just do what it says on the rebate. I did that. I sent the form that came with the player, I didn't staple anything.
post #6785 of 8458
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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

"It doesn't hurt to have multiple devices which do the same thing."

Hurt? How about costly in both money and time?

I have an Argosy 335T. It was not expensive and I have 1TB hard drive in it. I spend NO time worrying about converting this or that video format file to that or this format so it can play off a USB thumb drive. In fact I marvel at the lengths some folks go to make one file into another so the "new" file is compatible with a particular device.

I'd much rather have and pay for one device that is designed to accomplish tasks, like internet video streaming, properly and at the same time by design and market niche is also going to be updated to stay current.

I'd like to stop paying for all the development cost that go into putting a bazillion features into my bluray player, my TV, my receiver, my cable box, satellite dish, etc., and have all the development and research cost be focused on why I buy the unit in the first place.

I'd much rather my bluray player be the very best at bluray and dvd upscaling then to be adequate on those things and then stick on adequate internet streaming just to be on track with the other devices that attempt to be all things to all people.

I actually bought this player for the streaming apps. I rarely play discs at all anymore and my PS3 would have been adequate for that. I compared its features as a streamer to the Roku XD (previous generation) and chose the BDT110. Ironically I later bought a Roku 2 and mainly use the BDT110 for VUDU.

At this point, every STB and and television has to have a variety of streaming video players. This is driven as much or more by the streaming video service providers, who want to be sure that everyone has equipment with which to access their product. Development costs are minor for the OEM; most of these players would be primarily based on a reference implementation provided by the service providers. In some instances the service provider did all of the work (the new Xbox Netflix player was supposedly entirely developed by Netflix, though previous versions were developed by MS).

Personally I like this redundancy. Having one thing with a given ability creates a single point of failure. If my Roku dies, I can watch Netflix and Amazon on other devices while I wait for it to be replaced.
post #6786 of 8458
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

If that's the case, it sounds like is the problem with your HDMI to Aanlog converter. Panny players strictly follow HDMI handshake information to output. And it seems like your converter box didn't tell Panny player during handshake that it is capable of LPCM 7.1. PS3 can be setup to force the output format even if the other device didn't support it.

Your best bet is buy an older BD player that has 7.1 analog output (2011 models all removed 7.1 analog output).

Thanks for pushing me in the right direction. I tried my old Samsung BD-UP5000 and it also had the same issue. It has analog outputs, but I could never get the rear channels to work on those as well. I guess the solution would be to get a new 3D-compatible receiver. That will solve some other issues for me as well.
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post #6788 of 8458
I just received my DMP-BDT210 yesterday. I have one question about the flip-down door on this model. My home theater has the equipment stack behind the seating area. Therefore, I have an RF remote with a receiver in the stack with little IR repeaters stuck to the faces of each of the components. Is anyone else using these IR repeaters? Do I stick it on the flip-down door or is there possibly room under the door?

Otherwise I'm blown away with how fast it is loading BDs compared to my old Samsung BD1500. I haven't experienced any of the issues people have mentioned here although I have only watched one half hour show from Netflix and I don't do any video streaming from USB or DLNA. Also the drive is very quiet.
post #6789 of 8458
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Originally Posted by thedivine1 View Post

Thanks for pushing me in the right direction. I tried my old Samsung BD-UP5000 and it also had the same issue. It has analog outputs, but I could never get the rear channels to work on those as well. I guess the solution would be to get a new 3D-compatible receiver. That will solve some other issues for me as well.

Still got my BD-UP5000 here

BD-UP5000 doesn't decode DTS-HD/MA. So, you will only get DTS 5.1 (and decoded 5.1) if you use a DTS-HD track. IIRC, it does decode TrueHD but I'm not sure if it decodes TrueHD 7.1. Let me fire up the 5000 and try my Transformer 3 disc.

Update: I just tried and BD-UP5000 does decode TrueHD 7.1 properly.
post #6790 of 8458
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Originally Posted by rclapham View Post

I just received my DMP-BDT210 yesterday. I have one question about the flip-down door on this model. My home theater has the equipment stack behind the seating area. Therefore, I have an RF remote with a receiver in the stack with little IR repeaters stuck to the faces of each of the components. Is anyone else using these IR repeaters? Do I stick it on the flip-down door or is there possibly room under the door?

Otherwise I'm blown away with how fast it is loading BDs compared to my old Samsung BD1500. I haven't experienced any of the issues people have mentioned here although I have only watched one half hour show from Netflix and I don't do any video streaming from USB or DLNA. Also the drive is very quiet.

Mine works fine on the front door
post #6791 of 8458
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Originally Posted by jsmiddleton4 View Post

"It doesn't hurt to have multiple devices which do the same thing."

Hurt? How about costly in both money and time?

I have an Argosy 335T. It was not expensive and I have 1TB hard drive in it. I spend NO time worrying about converting this or that video format file to that or this format so it can play off a USB thumb drive. In fact I marvel at the lengths some folks go to make one file into another so the "new" file is compatible with a particular device.

I'd much rather have and pay for one device that is designed to accomplish tasks, like internet video streaming, properly and at the same time by design and market niche is also going to be updated to stay current.

I'd like to stop paying for all the development cost that go into putting a bazillion features into my bluray player, my TV, my receiver, my cable box, satellite dish, etc., and have all the development and research cost be focused on why I buy the unit in the first place.

I'd much rather my bluray player be the very best at bluray and dvd upscaling then to be adequate on those things and then stick on adequate internet streaming just to be on track with the other devices that attempt to be all things to all people.

+1

My computer is a tool. When I'm done work I put it away.
post #6792 of 8458
Any Vudu 3D yet.
post #6793 of 8458
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Originally Posted by rclapham View Post

I just received my DMP-BDT210 yesterday.

Otherwise I'm blown away with how fast it is loading BDs compared to my old Samsung BD1500. I haven't experienced any of the issues people have mentioned here although I have only watched one half hour show from Netflix and I don't do any video streaming from USB or DLNA. Also the drive is very quiet.

I received mine a couple of days ago. Performing quite nicely...uh, well, except that after about ten hours of total play, I just heard an VERY discernible rattle eminating from the BD-210. Ouch ! It HAD been very reasonable in operating noise level, but in the middle of a DVD, it started in with rattle that made me think that maybe a piece of paper had gotten underneath and was vibrating or something. OK, so after about ten minutes of that, it just quit making the excess noise and reverted back to tolerable noise level. Ugh! I do expect that I will encounter this again and I am not happy as NO Panasonic or any other brand has vibrated and rattled like that! Shizah! Well, now I am second-guessing NOT having purchased an Oppo 93. Otherwise happy enough with this Panny.
post #6794 of 8458
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Originally Posted by WOLVERNOLE View Post

I received mine a couple of days ago. Performing quite nicely...uh, well, except that after about ten hours of total play, I just heard an VERY discernible rattle eminating from the BD-210. Ouch ! It HAD been very reasonable in operating noise level, but in the middle of a DVD, it started in with rattle that made me think that maybe a piece of paper had gotten underneath and was vibrating or something. OK, so after about ten minutes of that, it just quit making the excess noise and reverted back to tolerable noise level. Ugh! I do expect that I will encounter this again and I am not happy as NO Panasonic or any other brand has vibrated and rattled like that! Shizah! Well, now I am second-guessing NOT having purchased an Oppo 93. Otherwise happy enough with this Panny.

Sounds like a defective unit. If you like the 210, why not exchange it. The absolutely only issues I have with it are the occasional drop outs during Netflix and that it doesnt go into screensaver when a Blu ray is paused. Otherwise really like it a lot.
post #6795 of 8458
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Originally Posted by J y E 4Ever View Post

Any Vudu 3D yet.

Nope.
post #6796 of 8458
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Still got my BD-UP5000 here

BD-UP5000 doesn't decode DTS-HD/MA. So, you will only get DTS 5.1 (and decoded 5.1) if you use a DTS-HD track. IIRC, it does decode TrueHD but I'm not sure if it decodes TrueHD 7.1. Let me fire up the 5000 and try my Transformer 3 disc.

Update: I just tried and BD-UP5000 does decode TrueHD 7.1 properly.

Breaks the heart that I need to upgrade my receiver. Paid about $2000 for it and THX was pretty useless. Haha. Unless I take a chance with this: http://www.octavainc.com/HDMI%20swit..._7_1audio.html. I own this one currently: http://www.hdtvsupply.com/hdmi-to-7-channel.html. Better to spend $350 than $800 on a new receiver.
post #6797 of 8458
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Originally Posted by thedivine1 View Post

I own this one currently: http://www.hdtvsupply.com/hdmi-to-7-channel.html.

According to your link, you can adjust the EDID info which is where this converter tells the player how many channels it supports among other informations. You might just misconfigured this thing (or it defaults to 5.1 instead of 7.1).
post #6798 of 8458
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Originally Posted by thedivine1 View Post

Breaks the heart that I need to upgrade my receiver. Paid about $2000 for it and THX was pretty useless. Haha. Unless I take a chance with this: http://www.octavainc.com/HDMI%20swit..._7_1audio.html. I own this one currently: http://www.hdtvsupply.com/hdmi-to-7-channel.html. Better to spend $350 than $800 on a new receiver.

Monoprice is also a good source for HDMI switch boxes; mine works great.
post #6799 of 8458
I noticed today Fry's had the 110 on close-out (red tagged). So I guess the replacement must be right around the corner. The 210 wasn't reg tagged...
post #6800 of 8458
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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

Monoprice is also a good source for HDMI switch boxes; mine works great.

He needs HDMI to 7.1 analog converter, not just switch. Last time I checked, Monoprice doesn't offer such thing.
post #6801 of 8458
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

He needs HDMI to 7.1 analog converter, not just switch. Last time I checked, Monoprice doesn't offer such thing.

Thanks for clarifying the situation.
post #6802 of 8458
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

According to your link, you can adjust the EDID info which is where this converter tells the player how many channels it supports among other informations. You might just misconfigured this thing (or it defaults to 5.1 instead of 7.1).

I was looking into this, so what I did was just switch the input that was working (PS3 in 7.1) to the Panny and it output 5.1. In addition, the dip switches are configured correctly to 7.1, otherwise, I wouldn't even have gotten 7.1 from the PS3. Also, poor instructions here: http://www.grandbeing.biz/Manual/MX0...structions.pdf.

I'll play around with it a little more, but I'm kinda leaning towards an older model Denon receiver: http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AVR-3311...8991624&sr=8-1
post #6803 of 8458
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe View Post

Well - I attempted to downlaod the 1.8 upgrade last night. While it was a slow process, the update screen showed progress. After about 15-20 minutes, with the screen indicating 62% completion, the screen went blank for a few seconds, and then the player started playing a DVD I had in the tray.
I checked firmware status & it still showed 1.7. Attempted to download 1.8 again & received a "no network connection" message. Restarted my router and still couldn't establish connectivity. The rest of my home network is functioning & the 110 is the only device not connecting to my network. Any one experience a similar problem, or have any suggestions?

No, but my blu ray players don't allow firmware download if a disc is in the player.
post #6804 of 8458
I am very fraustrated that my PS3 slim cannot bitstream TrueHD tracks while playing a 3D Blu-ray disc...(I use it 99% of the time as a BD player)
So I figured that at least while playing 3D BDs I could at least just let the player decode it.

Now I find out that it cannot internally process TrueHD and send it to my reciever as uncompressed PCM.

And the straw that broke the camel's back: It is not HDMI 1.4 compliant. So I just placed the entire bundle on Ebay a few hours ago.

I have read a lot of great reviews about the Panny 210 and I believe it is the best bet for me right now.

Question:

1) Can the 210 bitstream DTS-HD MA 5.1 & 7.1 as well as TrueHD 1.5 & 7.1?


2) Does it allow firmware updates via wifi?
post #6805 of 8458
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Originally Posted by thedivine1 View Post

I was looking into this, so what I did was just switch the input that was working (PS3 in 7.1) to the Panny and it output 5.1. In addition, the dip switches are configured correctly to 7.1, otherwise, I wouldn't even have gotten 7.1 from the PS3. Also, poor instructions here: http://www.grandbeing.biz/Manual/MX0...structions.pdf.

PS3 is the only player that can ignore EDID info and output whatever format you wanted. So, it is not a good test.
post #6806 of 8458
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

PS3 is the only player that can ignore EDID info and output whatever format you wanted. So, it is not a good test.

If that were true it would be flagrantly HDMI non-compliant.
post #6807 of 8458
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

PS3 is the only player that can ignore EDID info and output whatever format you wanted. So, it is not a good test.

I just toggled all the dip switches on the HDMI Matrix just to make sure they work and they appear to be working. So, I think we're just back to the original problem of improper handshake with the Panny. -_-
post #6808 of 8458
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Originally Posted by Brandenborg View Post

Absolutely, that's how I access MKVs on my eSATA drive: connected to my PC and sharing the video folder in win7. Again, the Dec 7 post I mentioned has the details.

Ok Brandenborg - we are streaming mkv's via a shared 4tb eSata WD Studio II - many thanks to you help on this.

Here are some issues:
1. I have the Mkv's in folders and the panny only shows the first 120 of about 350 folders.

2. About 70% of the way through the moving the playback became jerky -- I read somewhere that this might be a flaw with my router -- I have a linksys/cisco E4200 -- I read that the memory on it gets full sometimes -- hmm not sure what to do here.

3. The video quality was very good for the most part but at some points the pic got a green or red cast over it.

4. It played in 4:3 -- with black side bars -- but I know that it's a 16:9 movie

thanks in advance for your help


-- as a side note -- I have a few 1tb drives loaded up with mkv's or mp4's if anyone is looking for some media.
post #6809 of 8458
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Originally Posted by King_David View Post

I am very fraustrated that my PS3 slim cannot bitstream TrueHD tracks while playing a 3D Blu-ray disc...(I use it 99% of the time as a BD player)
So I figured that at least while playing 3D BDs I could at least just let the player decode it.

Now I find out that it cannot internally process TrueHD and send it to my reciever as uncompressed PCM.

And the straw that broke the camel's back: It is not HDMI 1.4 compliant. So I just placed the entire bundle on Ebay a few hours ago.

I have read a lot of great reviews about the Panny 210 and I believe it is the best bet for me right now.

Question:

1) Can the 210 bitstream DTS-HD MA 5.1 & 7.1 as well as TrueHD 1.5 & 7.1?


2) Does it allow firmware updates via wifi?

1. Yes

2. Yes

S~
post #6810 of 8458
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Originally Posted by ggsantafe
Well - I attempted to downlaod the 1.8 upgrade last night. While it was a slow process, the update screen showed progress. After about 15-20 minutes, with the screen indicating 62% completion, the screen went blank for a few seconds, and then the player started playing a DVD I had in the tray.
I checked firmware status & it still showed 1.7. Attempted to download 1.8 again & received a "no network connection" message. Restarted my router and still couldn't establish connectivity. The rest of my home network is functioning & the 110 is the only device not connecting to my network. Any one experience a similar problem, or have any suggestions?

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Originally Posted by StillwaterTownie View Post

No, but my blu ray players don't allow firmware download if a disc is in the player.

Well - I wished I had known this - eventually I got the firmware to download - but subsequently I was unable to maintain my wired connection - even after spending 90 minutes on the phone with Panny support. Dropped in the wi-fi dongle and now all is well.
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