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post #6931 of 8311
2/18/12 at 6:34am
"Are you saying that you've hooked the soundbar to the television and when you tune a channel with its internal tuner which has 5.1 sound you only get 2.1 channel sound from the television?"

Yes, that's pretty much it. It's been a while since I wired all the system up, so memory may be a bit fuzzy on some of the details.

I got the Panasonic (TC-P42G25) when my old Mitsubishi CRT large-screen finally died.

At that point I was building a "Home Theater PC", which was completed and installed with all functions working, including remote control of the cable box. I'm sad to say that the "Home Theater PC" experience has been "less than satisfactory", and it has apparently had a hardware failure and won't boot. So I've decided to "can" the HTPC and just go with commercial stuff.

The big item is being able to play Blu-ray and access all it's "bells and whistles" (except 3D....my interest in 3D is miniscule).

So, the "root question" is "will a Panasonic BMP-BDT210 player send 5.1 sound to the JVC-THBA3" by whatever route, whether that be optical HDMI, (or telegraph......)

I can live with not having 5.1 from the TV.

"The manual for your soundbarseems to say that it doesn't have HDMI connections. If this is true, and you've got some other device hooked into the television via HDMI (like a cable or satellite STB, game console or streaming box) and the television hooked into the soundbar via optical S/PDIF, what will probably happen is that the HDMI device will obtain a description of your television's capabilities (called the Enhanced Extended Display Identification Data, or E-EDID). this way; sadly, it was a while before that "don't send sound through HDMI" setting was added to cable box firmware)"
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post #6932 of 8311
2/18/12 at 8:43am
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Originally Posted by LowBudget5.1 View Post


Control Panel > Network and Internet > Network and Sharing Center > Media streaming options > Name your media Library e.g.(My Media) and click default settings and make sure the share folders are checked. > Under Show devices on: Local Network > Click Allow on Media Programs and remote connections on the media device icon (for the built in DLNA server "Default: Windows Media Player 12") > Click Allow on the DMP-BDT210 icon (or whatever model you have) then click Customize and check the box the says Make all the media in my Library available to this device > OK

If the Window Media Player Network Sharing Service is running, then you will almost immediately see your [Computer name: Media Library name] pop up on the Panasonic DLNA Client screen.

Hi thanks for the info here, but I am not seeing my BDT310 on the list of devices to free this up on.

Could you help me figure that one out? BR player is connected to the router, is turned on, and have gotten the update online, but the player does not show up on the network devices...I have win 7 home premium 64 bit. Adding a device to the network or computer results in no devices found...oO Have tried turning off the firewall as well, still no luck, am at wit's end...

Thanks in advance for your help!

Regards,
McStyvie
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post #6933 of 8311
2/18/12 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by montanaman View Post

Can someone help me with the Vierra Connect lineup on these players?

I think I read that the Panasonic TV's have a "larger" selection than the Blu-Ray players.

Do these blu-ray players have UStream, the 2 weather apps, and the Vierra Connect Market?

I ask because I read that the new models will have the same lineup as the TV's, and was wondering what is "missing" from these models.

From what I've seen, the Viera Connect Market on these BD players is a minor subset of what's available on the TVs; no doubt the TVs have faster processors and more memory. But there are dozens of apps, all of them free.

The PRs for the 2012 models talk about "Viera Connect 2", so I assume that the selection will be different, and possibly the same as for the televisions.
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post #6934 of 8311
2/18/12 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by Wonder Warthog View Post

The big item is being able to play Blu-ray and access all it's "bells and whistles" (except 3D....my interest in 3D is miniscule).

So, the "root question" is "will a Panasonic BMP-BDT210 player send 5.1 sound to the JVC-THBA3" by whatever route, whether that be optical HDMI, (or telegraph......)

According to its manual your soundbar does not have HDMI connections so you'd have to connect the BD210 to it via optical S/PDIF. If you additionally connect the BDT210 to the television via HDMI for video, you would need to disable HDMI sound in the BDT210's settings.

One of Blu-ray's significant "bells and whistles" that you would not get that way is high definition sound: DD+, TrueHD, DTS-HD HR and DTS-HD MA. None of those formats can be transported over S/PDIF and your soundbar can't process them anyway.
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post #6935 of 8311
2/18/12 at 11:15am
I am thinking about a dedicated 3d bd player (instead of ps3 which needs 3d adapter for my 2008 mits DLP tv) I have an ONKYO AVR that is NOT rated for 3d and I understand some of the pannys have dual hdi outs to compensate. Which panny should I be looking for that does 3d without the adapter and has dual hdmi outputs the 210 or the 310? How are they different? Which has better DLNA support?
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post #6936 of 8311
2/18/12 at 11:35am
Only the 310 has dual outputs.
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post #6937 of 8311
2/18/12 at 11:35am
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I am thinking about a dedicated 3d bd player (instead of ps3 which needs 3d adapter for my 2008 mits DLP tv) I have an ONKYO AVR that is NOT rated for 3d and I understand some of the pannys have dual hdi outs to compensate. Which panny should I be looking for that does 3d without the adapter and has dual hdmi outputs the 210 or the 310? How are they different? Which has better DLNA support?

You want the 310; the only differences between it and the 310 are the dual HDMI connections and settings pertaining to that.
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post #6938 of 8311
2/18/12 at 12:03pm
thanks for the quick reply, who has the best price?
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post #6939 of 8311
2/18/12 at 12:34pm
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

According to its manual your soundbar does not have HDMI connections so you'd have to connect the BD210 to it via optical S/PDIF. If you additionally connect the BDT210 to the television via HDMI for video, you would need to disable HDMI sound in the BDT210's settings.

One of Blu-ray's significant "bells and whistles" that you would not get that way is high definition sound: DD+, TrueHD, DTS-HD HR and DTS-HD MA. None of those formats can be transported over S/PDIF and your soundbar can't process them anyway.

Yeah, I looked in the manual after posting. My original attempt to hook up TV to Soundbar was obviously by optical cable (the TV has an "Optical Out" port), and it was my fuzzy recollection that was at fault. MY apologies for that error.

At this point, I'll settle for getting all the 5.1 speakers working. Until it died, my "Home Theater PC" was putting out quite good 5.1 sound over the optical connection. If I can get equivalent performance from the BDT210, I'll be happy enough.

But I'd have to ask, if S/PDIF is not supporting all those formats, what good is it. I thought optical was supposed to be THE "wave of the future".
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post #6940 of 8311
2/18/12 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by Wonder Warthog View Post

But I'd have to ask, if S/PDIF is not supporting all those formats, what good is it. I thought optical was supposed to be THE "wave of the future".

That's the problem with the phrase "the wave of the future"--the future changes . Today's AV electronics landscape is somewhat different than the future envisioned 14 years back when S/PDIF was standardized.

S/PDIF's available bandwidth supposedly cannot handle the bit rate at which those more advanced formats are encoded, generally 1500 Kbps or (much) higher. S/PDIF is good for basic DD and DTS and stereo PCM.

I use this PC (connected to the same 46" 1080p LCD panel and AVR that the rest of my AV equipment is) to view video with surround sound and it does sound great. Since the PC only has S/PDIF sound out (w/HDMI video) it's also limited to basic DD and DTS. But if you have good equipment the more advanced formats, which include the lossless TrueHD and DTS-HD MA, can sound audibly better.
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post #6941 of 8311
2/18/12 at 1:09pm
The only thing I use the optical for is pushing DD5.1 to my AVR from the tv's ATSC tuner (OTA). All other audio is handled via High Speed HDMI thru the AVR.
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post #6942 of 8311
2/18/12 at 4:24pm
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OK. Kinda at my wits' end here.

Trying to use a 3gb Seagate goflex drive with my 110 to play my collection of MKV files, but can't get it to work. I either get an error that says "incompatible USB drive" or "cannot play file". I know the files work, because I've played them from my 16gb usb drive on the 110 (plugged into the USB port) no problem.

I've tried formatting the HD in fat32 ("usb" drive is not recognized) and exFat (in exFat, the drive and files are seen by the panny, but files won't play). Neither format works.

I've tried connecting directly to the panny with the above formatting and get the above errors. And I've also tried connecting to the USB port on my WNDR3700, creating a readyshare DLNA connection. The panny sees the network DLNA HD and sees the files, but won't play them.

Any ideas what I might be doing wrong? Any suggestions on other approaches I can attempt?

Thanks all!

Alright. Played around a bit more today. Re-formatted the drive as exfat, recopied by mkv backups to the HD and it works! I can play all the mkv's through the USB port.

But, anyone have any idea how to map a network drive (NOT DLNA) via WNDR3700 (or any other router) NETGEAR router? I see the ip address and a folder that is USB_Storage or /shares. I really have no idea how to map it correctly with the Panny menu. I can enter the ip address but really don't know what to type in the "Folders" menu option.

At least the USB works, but I'd like to use it networked, so I don't have to disconnect and reconnect the USB from the Panny to my PC everytime I copy movies to the HD.
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post #6943 of 8311
2/18/12 at 7:39pm
Hello,

Semi-new owner of a Panasonic BDT210 here. I bought this unit for Christmas and have had it running for about 2 months. Everything works great. Nexflix doesn't even burp. Ever! I'm pretty technically savvy IT guy but have a problem that's really frustrating me.

I have a Netgear WNR4500 router that is DLNA compliant and has the ability to plug a USB external or flash drive and map that as a network drive. I have a 16GB USB flash drive with about 10 .mkv movies on it plugged into my router USB port. I've enable DLNA on the USB drive via the router. My entire network between my PC and BDT210 is CAT5e hard-wired to my router. Nothing goes wireless.

My PC sees the USB drive on the router and has no trouble playing the .mkv files on it. The USB drive is formatted as FAT32 and no .mkv files are larger than 1.8GB. I also have some .jpg pictures on the networked USB drive.

My BDT210, on the other hand, sees the DLNA USB drive and all the .mkv files on it but each file looks like it's "grayed" out and I get "cannot play" when I try to play any of the files. I also have some .wmv and .mov files with the same result. The BDT210 will display the .jpg photos off the same USB network drive just fine using the DLNA network.

I also have copies of the same .mkv files on my PC. It is a Windows XP box but I've added the DLNA updates and proper CODECS to the Media Player 11. My PC can play the .mkv files from it's own hard drive and the USB network drive just fine.

The BDT210 can also see my PC's shared DLNA folders with the .mkv files. It still won't play the files when accessed from my PC either.

Here is what is weird. I physically pull the USB drive from the router and plug it into the front of the BDT210 USB port and it plays those .mkv file beautifully. This means it's not the .mkv/.mov/.wmv file formats/codecs/etc unless the front port processes the video differently.

I am eliminating the router being the problem because I can play the .mkv, .mov, wmv files from the USB shared drive on the router to my PC just fine. I can also show the .jpg files on the BDT210 from the networked USB drive - just not the movies.

Do you have any ideas? I would love to get this problem solved because I'm going to run a file server off my network and store all my media files on it. I bought the BDT210 with high hopes that it would be a big player in my network.

Thanks for your help.
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post #6944 of 8311
2/18/12 at 7:50pm
Maybe it is my hearing but .. Have the 210 hooked to receiver via HDMI and back to TV the same. When watching movies on Amazon I don't or haven't yet got Dolby Digital. Not sure what transcoding my receiver is doing .. Dolby Pro Logic or sourrond sound or what but in my opinion the movies sound great. In some ways as good or better to me than Dolby Digital and or Blu Ray HD sound fields. The music and sounds seem to be more airy, the base seems more pronounced etc. Wheras Dolby Digital and or HD sound seem almost to precise. Then again it always seemed to me that records sounded better or more real than CD's do.

I noticed the same thing when I watched Amazon or Netflix via the TV app instead of the Panny 210. Then I use optical out from TV to the receiver and again think the sound was very good. Don't really miss Dolby Digital or HD sound much when watching Netflix or Amazon.

Just to prove I may be crazy. I thought the surround sound from those HI Def VCR's was great. In fact, I really believe the base was much more enveloping and real. I remember watching movies that literally would knock me of my seat from great realistic base. Watching the same movies over in Dolby Digital and or BD Dolby HD etc. I really don't think I get as good of a base affect.
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post #6945 of 8311
2/18/12 at 8:59pm
Please help me, I just bought a Panasonic DMP-BDT110P because my Samsung is going hay wire, but when I put in my flashdrive, none of my video files are showing up. In fact, the only files that do show up are MKV files, but only one of them actually plays. I have 500 video files between my external harddrive and flashdrives and none of them show up. I need to get this problem fixed or I am just returning this player and going with the Sony I was looking at, as that should play all of my files.
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post #6946 of 8311
2/18/12 at 9:52pm
I have a pan. and it would be heartbreaking if I had to return it--picture quality is just that good.

Having said that, I've tried 2 different flash drives and it won't accept either. The player is also quite noisy.

I may get a sony as a 2nd blu ray player so I can use my flash drive and as a backup when the pan. proves too noisy with certain disks.

Also, I believe the 2012's are shipping at the end of the month...
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post #6947 of 8311
2/18/12 at 10:14pm
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Originally Posted by audio/videoman View Post

I have a pan. and it would be heartbreaking if I had to return it--picture quality is just that good.

Having said that, I've tried 2 different flash drives and it won't accept either. The player is also quite noisy.

I may get a sony as a 2nd blu ray player so I can use my flash drive and as a backup when the pan. proves too noisy with certain disks.

Also, I believe the 2012's are shipping at the end of the month...

The video is amazing, but for $110, there is no reason for it to not play my video files that aren't DVD or BD. Out of the 700 files I have, it only plays the 9 of the 13 MKV files I have. Plus, it will not even read my external hard drive. I have to keep putting files on the flashdrive, which is pointless since it does not want to read those either. The point of having a 2GB external for my Sentai and Kamen Rider series is so I don't have to use flashdrives.
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post #6948 of 8311
2/18/12 at 10:16pm
I gave Up with player. Although I liked the bluray and DVD playback the issues with netflix (documented all over this thread) and hulu plus isn't good enough.

Hulu plus actually locked up the player several times.

The viera connect interface is horrible, unecessary flashy and slow.

The vudu ui although is the same as other devices, the native resolution of the ui gives everything a cloudy fuzzy look. Hdx video playback is Stella though.
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post #6949 of 8311
2/18/12 at 10:19pm
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Originally Posted by audio/videoman View Post

I have a pan. and it would be heartbreaking if I had to return it--picture quality is just that good.

Having said that, I've tried 2 different flash drives and it won't accept either. The player is also quite noisy.

I may get a sony as a 2nd blu ray player so I can use my flash drive and as a backup when the pan. proves too noisy with certain disks.

Also, I believe the 2012's are shipping at the end of the month...

My 210 isn't noisy at all.
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post #6950 of 8311
2/18/12 at 11:22pm
Here's to a greatly improved 2012 line...
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post #6951 of 8311
2/19/12 at 3:54am
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Originally Posted by McStyvie View Post

Hi thanks for the info here, but I am not seeing my BDT310 on the list of devices to free this up on.

Could you help me figure that one out? BR player is connected to the router, is turned on, and have gotten the update online, but the player does not show up on the network devices...I have win 7 home premium 64 bit. Adding a device to the network or computer results in no devices found...oO Have tried turning off the firewall as well, still no luck, am at wit's end...

Thanks in advance for your help!

Regards,
McStyvie

#1 - Under the Panasonic Network Settings, go ahead and run a connection test. If Pass, then #2 - Remote Device Settings > Verify Remote Device Operation is On > Remote Device List > Make sure your computer's MAC Address is displayed and [Enable] > If not, then click OK and Yes to Enable it FYI: I keep my Registration Type set to Manual #3 - Check firewall settings again. #4 - Verify that Network Discovery is Turned On in the Win 7 Network and Sharing Center > Advanced sharing settings

To confirm your Windows 7 computer MAC Address; Open command prompt and type ipconfig/all
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post #6952 of 8311
2/19/12 at 4:12am
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Originally Posted by knayrb View Post

Hello,

Semi-new owner of a Panasonic BDT210 here. I bought this unit for Christmas and have had it running for about 2 months. Everything works great. Nexflix doesn't even burp. Ever! I'm pretty technically savvy IT guy but have a problem that's really frustrating me.

I have a Netgear WNR4500 router that is DLNA compliant and has the ability to plug a USB external or flash drive and map that as a network drive. I have a 16GB USB flash drive with about 10 .mkv movies on it plugged into my router USB port. I've enable DLNA on the USB drive via the router. My entire network between my PC and BDT210 is CAT5e hard-wired to my router. Nothing goes wireless.

My PC sees the USB drive on the router and has no trouble playing the .mkv files on it. The USB drive is formatted as FAT32 and no .mkv files are larger than 1.8GB. I also have some .jpg pictures on the networked USB drive.

My BDT210, on the other hand, sees the DLNA USB drive and all the .mkv files on it but each file looks like it's "grayed" out and I get "cannot play" when I try to play any of the files. I also have some .wmv and .mov files with the same result. The BDT210 will display the .jpg photos off the same USB network drive just fine using the DLNA network.

I also have copies of the same .mkv files on my PC. It is a Windows XP box but I've added the DLNA updates and proper CODECS to the Media Player 11. My PC can play the .mkv files from it's own hard drive and the USB network drive just fine.

The BDT210 can also see my PC's shared DLNA folders with the .mkv files. It still won't play the files when accessed from my PC either.

Here is what is weird. I physically pull the USB drive from the router and plug it into the front of the BDT210 USB port and it plays those .mkv file beautifully. This means it's not the .mkv/.mov/.wmv file formats/codecs/etc unless the front port processes the video differently.

I am eliminating the router being the problem because I can play the .mkv, .mov, wmv files from the USB shared drive on the router to my PC just fine. I can also show the .jpg files on the BDT210 from the networked USB drive - just not the movies.

Do you have any ideas? I would love to get this problem solved because I'm going to run a file server off my network and store all my media files on it. I bought the BDT210 with high hopes that it would be a big player in my network.

Thanks for your help.

This is due to the player accepting different types of files if it sees them via USB, via DLNA or as a Network Share. Why Panasonic has decided to not support the same media types regardless of how the player sees them is beyond me.

It's also so that over DLNA, the DLNA server sends a MIME type of the file which is what the player filters on, changing the mime from video/x-matroska which is mkv to video/mpeg fools the player into accepting them one stage further (they are no longer grayed out) however it still refuses to play them so the player has some checks done on the file when it actually tries to decode it.

This in contrast with my Samsung Smart TV which filters on both MIME and file extenstion, there I can fool it into playing mkvs by simply renaming them to say .avi as well as changing the MIME to video/mpeg.
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post #6953 of 8311
2/19/12 at 7:59am
Yesterday I accidentally hot-plugged my Panasonic bdt210 from receiver to my tv, at the tv. Now all I get is a brief message that there's a 720p connection at HDMI 1 at the top of the screen, and then a black screen alternating with white static, over and over. The component connection still works. Is the player finished for HDMI? Any magic tricks out there?
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post #6954 of 8311
2/19/12 at 8:27am
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Originally Posted by ddoshan View Post

Maybe it is my hearing but .. Have the 210 hooked to receiver via HDMI and back to TV the same. When watching movies on Amazon I don't or haven't yet got Dolby Digital. Not sure what transcoding my receiver is doing .. Dolby Pro Logic or sourrond sound or what but in my opinion the movies sound great. In some ways as good or better to me than Dolby Digital and or Blu Ray HD sound fields. The music and sounds seem to be more airy, the base seems more pronounced etc. Wheras Dolby Digital and or HD sound seem almost to precise. Then again it always seemed to me that records sounded better or more real than CD's do.

I noticed the same thing when I watched Amazon or Netflix via the TV app instead of the Panny 210. Then I use optical out from TV to the receiver and again think the sound was very good. Don't really miss Dolby Digital or HD sound much when watching Netflix or Amazon.

Just to prove I may be crazy. I thought the surround sound from those HI Def VCR's was great. In fact, I really believe the base was much more enveloping and real. I remember watching movies that literally would knock me of my seat from great realistic base. Watching the same movies over in Dolby Digital and or BD Dolby HD etc. I really don't think I get as good of a base affect.

Sure. You're just hearing Dolby surround which is encoded in most movies and tv shows for legacy. You don't need a dd bitstream to hear surround. So many amazon titles still playback in surround from the stereo track.
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post #6955 of 8311
2/19/12 at 8:28am
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Originally Posted by coyoteblue View Post

Yesterday I accidentally hot-plugged my Panasonic bdt210 from receiver to my tv, at the tv. Now all I get is a brief message that there's a 720p connection at HDMI 1 at the top of the screen, and then a black screen alternating with white static, over and over. The component connection still works. Is the player finished for HDMI? Any magic tricks out there?

Plug it back into the receiver perhaps ?

If that's works fine then maybe it's the input on your tv ?
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post #6956 of 8311
2/19/12 at 8:30am
Is the Bdt-220 released next month ?
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post #6957 of 8311
2/19/12 at 8:33am
Can anyone help me figure the solution to getting my files to play?
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post #6958 of 8311
2/19/12 at 8:59am
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Can anyone help me figure the solution to getting my files to play?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post21190548
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post #6959 of 8311
2/19/12 at 9:04am
I tried the player on a different tv...the same result. Thanks for the suggestion.
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post #6960 of 8311
2/19/12 at 9:48am
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Originally Posted by Dr Kain View Post

Can anyone help me figure the solution to getting my files to play?

I'm sorry, but I have no sympathy for you. Not only does the manual tell you exactly what this player can play (which is virtually nothing besides some mkv and mpg), this thread is filled with warnings against trying to use panasonic for playing files. If you don't want to remaster all your files to match panny's very narrow requirements as some in this thread have done, you should really get a different player for files. If you do want to remaster all your files, there are plenty of detailed instructions in this thread.

I don't understand why people continue to buy panasonic and expect it to play files. It's very well documented that it won't. If you want a good disc player or happen to have all mkv's already encoded just right, panasonic is a fine choice. Otherwise, look elsewhere. Sony, Samsung and LG all make great file players.
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