Official Panasonic DMP-BDT110/210/310 Owners Thread - Page 234

You can only get them for that subset of titles which feature them, which you can see here. When playing one of those, enter the title's "Audio and subtitles" menu and turn on the captions before playing it.

The 220 is in stock from one of the partners of the rainforest merchant.

Great! Thanks for the quick response!

Does anyone know if there is a way to make your 3D settings stick? Everytime I restart the player the settings revert back to normal. I would like them to stay on my custom settings.

Thanks

I've had my 110 for about 6 months now and am generally pleased. It has its warts but basic BD and DVD playback on my ancient 5.1 rcvr via optical and HDMI playback on a four-year-old SAMSUNG DLP has been nothing short of excellent.
I've found nothing but very helpful information on this forum and the other forums I belong to here. And having seen a few testy exchanges lately about these players I felt I ought to say a few things here.
Forums like this are generally for helpful hints and fixes for people who own these models. As such, taken as a whole, you expect to see a lot of problem discussions - disproportionately so against the population of happy users who go through every day without having issues.
I'm a bit of a technophile and I tend to want to extract every feature that I can from this player. I bought it to exploit the networking capabilities and in some ways it has exceeded my expectations while in others it has shown great weaknesses. Certainly USB, and Network drive playback are well-documented weaknesses that have been pretty thoroughly documented in this forum going back to October and November of 2011 - and that's where this forum has shined - a lot of hard work by some dedicated folks to get answers to what are very common problems for anyone trying to use the USB and Network drive features. It helped me a lot - I understand the limitations now and know what to do when I use those features.
The DLNA capability was not even something I really knew or cared about when I bought the player. I had issues trying to find Windows XP or LINUX software that would talk to the DLNA client and had almost given up - but when I upgraded to Windows 7 that problem went away. Once I learned to enable the media streaming features on the Media Center and Media Player in Windows 7 the DLNA feature set began working and I could stream almost any video off of my servers to the Panny and they played fine. But it was troublesome to get to that point.
I think one thing all of us have to keep in mind is that this generation of Panny players was heavily discounted to us - whether you realized it or not. We all got about $100 retail value discount whether you bought a 110, a 210, or a 310 - in the form of the free Avatar 3-D blu-ray disk. And whether you sold it like I and many others did or kept it - it was likely worth an average of $100 in 2011. I sold my copy for $125 netting just under $100 after cost of sales. Since I paid $109 for the player I really only have about $10 invested in this player - and for $10 this is the best investment in electronics I've ever made. YouTube works well for me, Netflix despite the very rare flashing problem works well, Vudu, Hulu, and Pandora - all of that works. And the upconversion of standard DVDs also works very well. And blu-ray playback is excellent.
So watching some of the testy exchanges lately I thought it worthwhile to say that I think this is a very good player overall. I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that own these players and have never looked for a forum such as this because the player does the job it was designed for and meets their needs. Heck I wouldn't have known that I could sell the Avatar disk for the insane amount of $125 had it not been for this forum.
So I want to personally thank the numerous contributors to this forum who have made the warts of this player an easy to deal with set of issues, who saved me $100 off the cost of my player, and whose honest efforts to inform others have helped me and I'm sure many others learn what this player is and isn't good at! And overall, regardless of the discount, these are good players whose plusses and minuses have been well documented and thoroughly discussed and largely ameliorated in this forum!
So thanks to all of you who have contributed - I, for one, have greatly benefited from the information presented here and hope this forum can continue.

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ahahlberg: What an excellent post. Thank you for putting everything in the right perspective and context.

I have resisted the temptation to get involved lately - a little weary of yet another discussion of subjects that have been covered so extensively already. But your post deserved a response.

Thanks again!

Just curious...after you guys mailed in your rebate offer, how soon did you get an email saying it was received?

I never got an email, the package just showed up about 3 weeks later. Maybe even less, I forget.

^^^^ same here.

what are the best audio settings in the menu settings on the panasonic bdp 210 via connected hdmi to the onkyo txnr 709 without me having to flip through 20 pages of the panasonic bdp 210 owners thread here on avs....thanks

+1

I never received an email. You can check your rebate status here (I assume you are talking about the Avatar one?):

http://www.panasonicconsumerrebates.com/

I mailed in mine in December and still haven't received my disk. Here's my status:

Retailer: TARGET CORPORATION
Product Model: DMP-BDT210
Date Entered: Tuesday, January 24, 2012
Check Number: No check will be mailed. Fulfillment product will be mailed. 5219 Panasonic Avatar Blu-Ray Rebate (Part 1)
Current Dollar Amount: $0.00

IT TAKES A SOLID MONTH - you are approaching the month date.

I was watching my 4 day old 210 yesterday. I was streaming Netflix. Up until last night, it has been flawless in every aspect (except DLNA etc.) Last night, mine flashed 3 times in 15 minutes. It didnt bother us that much. I thought I had a good unit but it seems I also have the same issue.

Learning that 220 is in stock, I ordered 220 hoping to take advantage of "the new technology" and again hoping that they fixed this issue. 220 is actually less than what I paid for 210; therefore I will be returning the 210 to Best Buy.

Question: I have already sent the Avatar rebate thing and chopped the corner of the box as required. Do you think it will be a problem during return? Obviously I will find this out when i return the unit myself (as soon as 220 arrives which is about 1 week), but I wanted to see any past experiences you had about this. When I return, does the Avatar still gets mailed? Or is that the reason they wait 1 month to ship out, so that they know customer has not returned it.

It certainly should be a problem, but I don't know what Best Buy's policy is. They can't resell the unit as new without the UPC on the box. But as you suggest, Panasonic might have some way of handling the situation by not sending out the Avatar BD.

Thanks. I actually am not one of the guys who may abuse the system by buying and returning just to get the Avatar Blu Ray. My Netflix flashing problem actually did not start happening after I sent the rebate.

It may be my fault to not to wait 2 weeks (even though I watched Netflix for over 7 hours prior to this flashing problem started) before cutting the UPC.

I was curious about this statement, and have done a bit of research. The problem is NOT optical itself which can handle 125mbps but the Sony Phillips Digital Interconnect Protocol which is limited to 1.5mbps. The formats it allows to transmit are:

DD 5.1
DD-EX 6.1
DTS 5.1
DTS-ES 6.1
Uncompressed PCM 2 Ch

The way that DTS is formatted your receiver will play whatever level of DTS it understands and drop the additional channels it doesn't know about. DD True HD however shifted the channels, notably the LFE channel on DD 7.1 and your receiver will have dropouts when that channel is used. This goes to a post I made when I got my 210, in that the configuration is not finely configurable so that I can have it bitstream DTS while converting any TrueHD to 5.1 for me.

I've been thinking if I got a 7.1 receiver, that I could just get 3 piece (2 side and left/right rear) surround from the same mfgr to fill in the missing speakers from my existing setup......

FYI.

I've been watching Netflix on my WDTV Live rather than the 210 (because it's 1080/dd 5.1). As a fyi, while watching the other day, had Netflix do the same black flash that the 210 does, just once or twice each show. It like the 210 is now wired into my 50/8 mbps connection. There's nothing about it on the WD boards but the 210 may not be the only device with it, and it may be the application/network that's the problem.

Its the way a vendor chooses to implement the netflix client. The 210 will alway flash black as it re-adjust its stream quality. Indeed the WDTV may use the same approach. However it doesn't have to be like that. Other clients don't use that technique or aren't constrained to do so.

For folks that never get it ... you're basically lucky. I say luck because it can happen anytime. You can have a solid pipe into the internet, but then the netflix server or any link between you and the server could get congested, and hence cause your netflix stream to hiccup.

I think later on DRM concerns over shadow the technical capability. For example, a lot DVD Audio players will down sample 2-ch high bitrate PCM into 48Khz or 96Khz before sending out to optical output. Sony's SACD is never allowed to transmit over optical in any form.


Not quite. DTS-HD/MA track contains DTS 5.1 core and extension. The player will only send out DTS core if it is over optical or even HDMI but the receiver that doesn't support DTS-HD/MA. The receiver will not receive the extension part at all.

For TrueHD, there is always a DD 5.1 compainion track manadated on all TrueHD tracks. When the player needs to send audio over optical or receivers that has HDMI but doesn't support the TrueHD, it will pick up the compainion DD 5.1 track instead. There is no on the fly conversion of any kind.

That's really interesting since I'd never heard a report of a "black flash" phenomena on any other Netflix player. Many players now implement adaptive bit rate technology (dynamically switching to a lower quality, lower bit rate encoding when they can't, for whatever reason, keep their buffer filled with the one that they were playing and back to a higher quality encoding when conditions improve), but all of the ones I have which do this other than my BDT110 (PS3, Roku 2 and Xbox 360) all do it very smoothly and without any kind of visually hiccup--I've always said that the PS3 does it so smoothly that it's like watching the focus of a lens soften and sharpen.

I'd alway thought that it might be a hardware limitation of the BDTx10 which was causing it, but if another box has the same problem it's probably not that.

New 2012 players are now available at Amazon through third parties sellers, like Electronics Expo....Just an FYI...

Yeah, we were discussing that yesterday, back here. I probably won't be able to resist buying a 220, but I'll wait until it's available from a source with Prime shipping.

You can get free one day shipping with your discover card. Just got my 310 yesterday .

Sounds like for those interested in dual-HDMI players, you should grab the 310 now while still can. I don't see the reason why Panny has 320 in the line up at all.

Well, it's slot-loading (with a glowing blue disc slot), has the bizarre touchpad remote and "smart eco sensor", which automatically switches the player from a .1 Watt standby mode into the .3 Watt quick-start mode when it senses someone moving nearby . It also features a bizarre trapezoidal design, with a smaller rectangular base than top. But you're right, all-in-all it seems like a pretty weak-ass upgrade, hardly worth an additional $50.

Sounds like a player designed for the top 1% They should jack up the price by $1000 and it will fly off the shelf.

LOL :-D

But it's true!

Usually you cannot return it if you cut off the UPC. Let us know what happens, but don't be surprised if BB refuses to take it back.

Hello,

I have lost my audio coming out of my BR player.
I am running powered speakers directly out of this player.
It has worked in the past.
Now nothing.

Spent time with Panasonic today and they told me to try settings in set up menue.
Tried all of that.
Just took my speaker into as hop and found that it is working properely.

Any ideas?

I do not think I have to be concerned about the hook up to my TV since I am trying to run sound directly out of player.
I have all HDMI running to my VT 30.

Thank you,
Mr. Panda