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post #7441 of 8308
3/18/12 at 2:49pm
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Resume playback does work on BD-j discs that are authored for it and it does work on non-java based discs. Bookmarks are available, also, from studios that utilize it. The only way the Sony might work better is if it will remember DVD's when they are taken out of the drawer.

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Thanks. I understand that BD-J is a different story than regular BD and DVD.

Are you saying that the Sony player will not Resume playback on BD just like the Panasonic?

The Sony info clearly states that it WILL Resume playback on regular BD where the Panasonic says Resume playback will NOT work on any BD disc, period. (BD-J bookmarking aside)
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post #7442 of 8308
3/18/12 at 3:02pm
Resume playback does work on non bd-j discs. Search my posts and michaelscott posts with keyword resume. We tested exactly what works and what doesn't. I think it wa back in October.

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post #7443 of 8308
3/19/12 at 2:15pm
Hoping someone can help me.

I have a BD210 and Mitsubish 65735. I used to be able to watch 3d on it no problems but I think after it got a firmware update I have been unable to watch anything.

I have checkerboard checked off and before that would work. Now everytime I select checkerboard, it switches to Full HD 3D. No matter what I do, it keeps changing it from checkerboard to Full HD 3D.

I bought the 3d starter kit and have the player plugged in through that but I simply cannot figure out what's wrong. Checked the batteries on the glasses, checked the connections, checked the settings on the TV.

Anyone have any ideas?
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post #7444 of 8308
3/19/12 at 2:34pm
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Isn't the purpose of the 3D starter kit if you are using a player that DOESN'T support checkerboard output, and the adapter converts from Full HD, Side-by Side etc to checkerboard as required by the TV?

I have a Mits DLP but never used 3D with it. One reason for my choice of a Panasonic player is because it outputs checkerboard directly, so I wouldn't have to use an adapter.
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post #7445 of 8308
3/19/12 at 2:51pm
Wasn't the point of the update to avoid the need for the adapter? Try taking the adapter out of the equation.

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post #7446 of 8308
3/19/12 at 5:23pm
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Wasn't the point of the update to avoid the need for the adapter? Try taking the adapter out of the equation.

I am not aware that an update should affect this at all: Panny is born with checkerboard support so that we don't need the adapter on checkerboard TVs.

The only cause I can think of why his 3D stopped working after the update, is if Panny's Hdmi handshake now sees the adapter wanting Full HD and refuses to output checkerboard.

I would either connect Panny straight to TV (no adapter) and set to checkerboard OR set it to Full HD if going through the adapter.

But again, I have not tried this myself, I could be completely wrong.
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post #7447 of 8308
3/19/12 at 5:55pm
I understand. The update allowed the TV to accept a full HD signal so the adapter isn't needed.

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post #7448 of 8308
3/19/12 at 7:49pm
Are you sure you have a 65735? The mitsubishi 3d update applies to the 738 and 838 WD series models only afaik. I have a 73835 that needs the adapter so I bought the Panny 310 basically for the checkerboard but I also bought the adapter.
When using the adapter, my 310 automatically switches to full 3d so, if you want to use checkerboard just ditch the adapter. But, if you want the 2d-3d conversion checkerboard won't allow it btw.
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post #7449 of 8308
3/20/12 at 8:17am
I have to say that streaming works flawlessly for me. I hooked up a USB drive to my router that has some MKV files and it works perfectly. I had tried to stream files from my computer through my TiVo, but it would only play for two minutes at a time before rebuffering. I wish the TiVo streamed as well as my 110.
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post #7450 of 8308
3/20/12 at 9:38am
Interesting thoughts about the Tivo, your experiences are a bit different than mine. I'm a bit confused by the statement "I tried to stream files from my computer through my Tivo". Why not have the Tivo play them directly?

My Tivo Premiere streams Netflix with the same video quality or better than my 210, and doesnt flash black screens at me. Tivo has announced upcoming support for 5.1 surround sound and (I believe) 1080p NetFlix video. It is hard to get specifics on this, but the interface looks almost exactly like the current PS3 interface.

Long story short... Tivo and the 210 both seem very similar quality wise to me on my 100" screen. The 210 has a better UI at the moment, but that will soon be a moot point.
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post #7451 of 8308
3/20/12 at 11:46am
Don't know if this has been mentioned before. Got a 110 recently. It does not play DVD+R DL discs (though the manual says it should). All my other players do not have a problem with those discs.
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post #7452 of 8308
3/20/12 at 4:37pm
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Originally Posted by jiggawhat View Post

Hoping someone can help me.

I have a BD210 and Mitsubish 65735. I used to be able to watch 3d on it no problems but I think after it got a firmware update I have been unable to watch anything.

I have checkerboard checked off and before that would work. Now everytime I select checkerboard, it switches to Full HD 3D. No matter what I do, it keeps changing it from checkerboard to Full HD 3D.

I bought the 3d starter kit and have the player plugged in through that but I simply cannot figure out what's wrong. Checked the batteries on the glasses, checked the connections, checked the settings on the TV.

Anyone have any ideas?

Same set up as you, but never bought an adapter. The 210 outputs in Checkerboard, and I don't need 2D->3D conversion. Ditch your adapter, set the 210 to checkerboard, and watch 3D that way. Use the adapter for cable/satellite or Xbox/PS3.
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post #7453 of 8308
3/20/12 at 10:34pm
How is the 2d to 3d conversion on the panny 310?
Can you adjust depth and parallax?
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post #7454 of 8308
3/21/12 at 6:20am
I have the the Panny 310 Blu Ray player and the LG 3D 47LW5600. I split the audio because I don't have a 3D capable receiver, so the HDMI video goes direct to the TV and the secondary audio goes to my Onkyo 606 through the sub HDMI cable.

BUT when playing Blu Ray movies and I check the status on the Blu Ray, it says the Blu Ray disc is 1080p/24, but my video HDMI is outputting 1080p/60. Any guesses as to why this is happening? It shows this way both on 3D and 2D-3D (I use the LG to convert 2D-3D as I think it does a better job of this than the 310), and I think it shows 1080p/60 on plain 2D material. Answers would be greatly appreciated.

(also posted this on the LG thread)
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post #7455 of 8308
3/21/12 at 6:25am
Do you have 24p enabled in the player's set-up menu?

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post #7456 of 8308
3/21/12 at 11:58am
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Originally Posted by teachsac View Post

Do you have 24p enabled in the player's set-up menu?

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Thanks, that was it. Shouldn't have assumed 24p was the default. And it sure is buried pretty deep in the 310 menus.
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post #7457 of 8308
3/21/12 at 3:48pm
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Originally Posted by pannayar View Post

Don't know if this has been mentioned before. Got a 110 recently. It does not play DVD+R DL discs (though the manual says it should). All my other players do not have a problem with those discs.

I have no problem playing AVCHD burnt to DVD+R DL on my 110. So, it is not a problem with DVD+R DL. More likely your disc isn't authored correctly. Panny is very picky about disc formats.
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post #7458 of 8308
3/21/12 at 4:50pm
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

I have no problem playing AVCHD burnt to DVD+R DL on my 110. So, it is not a problem with DVD+R DL. More likely your disc isn't authored correctly. Panny is very picky about disc formats.

Sometimes the manufacturing quality of the -R or +R disc itself can also cause a problem with DVD and BD players.
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post #7459 of 8308
3/22/12 at 6:27am
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Originally Posted by Sgooter View Post

Sometimes the manufacturing quality of the -R or +R disc itself can also cause a problem with DVD and BD players.

Could be but I haven't encountered any such case yet. I have tested with two different DVD+R DL brands.

Panny is picky about format support, you will have to author the disc either as AVCHD disc or DVD movie disc. Anything else will probably not be supported. If you simply throw a few video files to the disc, it won't play.
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post #7460 of 8308
3/22/12 at 6:35am
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

... you will have to author the disc either as AVCHD disc or DVD movie disc. Anything else will probably not be supported. ...

I don't know if it is still true, but a few years ago the Panasonic Blu-Ray players would not read AVCHDs unless they strictly adhered to the standard. I authored some disks that played fine on my PS3, but could not be read on my brother's Blu-Ray player.
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post #7461 of 8308
3/22/12 at 9:00am
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

I don't know if it is still true, but a few years ago the Panasonic Blu-Ray players would not read AVCHDs unless they strictly adhered to the standard. I authored some disks that played fine on my PS3, but could not be read on my brother's Blu-Ray player.

It is still the case. Everything must strickly follow standards.
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post #7462 of 8308
3/22/12 at 9:07pm
How is DVD upconversion supposed to work?

Today, for the first time I tried a DVD in the BDT-210, and I had black bars on all four sides of the image (windowboxed), so the picture was squished in the middle of my Mits DLP HDTV screen and looked pretty weak. I can select "Zoom" to get it to fill the screen (with normal letterboxing)

I would have expected that upconversion would allow it to fill the whole screen (with the normal letterboxing based on the aspect ratio), and that the upconversion would actually improve on the quality. But I couldn't figure out if there was upconversion going on, or if I have to enable it somewhere (the HDMI Resolution in Settings was initially set to 1080P, but I also tried Auto)

What am I missing? The BDT210 is connected directly to my Onkyo 609 via HDMI and the Onkyo is connected to my TV. Could that be the problem?

Bluray movies and Netflix both play fine with no problems...

THanks!
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post #7463 of 8308
3/23/12 at 2:24am
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Originally Posted by tuxster View Post

How is DVD upconversion supposed to work?

Today, for the first time I tried a DVD in the BDT-210, and I had black bars on all four sides of the image (windowboxed), so the picture was squished in the middle of my Mits DLP HDTV screen and looked pretty weak. I can select "Zoom" to get it to fill the screen (with normal letterboxing)

I would have expected that upconversion would allow it to fill the whole screen (with the normal letterboxing based on the aspect ratio), and that the upconversion would actually improve on the quality. But I couldn't figure out if there was upconversion going on, or if I have to enable it somewhere (the HDMI Resolution in Settings was initially set to 1080P, but I also tried Auto)

What am I missing? The BDT210 is connected directly to my Onkyo 609 via HDMI and the Onkyo is connected to my TV. Could that be the problem?

Bluray movies and Netflix both play fine with no problems...

THanks!

Sounds like you have a non-anamorphic (letterboxed 4:3 image) DVD, since the player detects that it's a 4:3 DVD it adds black bars to the left and right to keep the aspect ratio (this can be changed permanently in the setup by setting the TV-type to "16:9 full" if this is enabled then it will zoom/stretch all 4:3 material to fill the screen).

Upconversion is done automatically so there is nothing extra that you have to do, but your DVD in question is of extremely low resolution since i'ts non-anamorphic.
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post #7464 of 8308
3/24/12 at 2:38pm
My BDT210 was working flawlessly until I let it update to firmware 1.8 -- ever since then I've been experiencing odd connection problems - I think the update introduced an HDMI handshaking issue. It goes 'off' (black screen) -- not a flicker.... off, and if off, it no longer shows the display until I literally unplug the HDMI cable now to get it to find itself. I'm connecting to a Panasonic Viera tv - I've tried it with Viera cast on and off... no joy. Has anyone else experienced this from the 1.8 firmware? I will swap out HDMI cable as soon as I get a new one, just in case it's a coincidental problem, but thought i'd ask in the mean time. It's been very frustrating, as it was working great (I did an update to firmware 1.7 when it first arrived, and that was ok). i went through the reset process, but it didn't revert the firmware, and it brought the zombified machine back from the dead, but the same problem keeps happening. Thanks for any suggestions ...
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post #7465 of 8308
3/24/12 at 2:41pm
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Originally Posted by artwire View Post

My BDT210 was working flawlessly until I let it update to firmware 1.8 -- ever since then I've been experiencing odd connection problems - I think the update introduced an HDMI handshaking issue. It goes 'off' (black screen) -- not a flicker.... off, and if off, it no longer shows the display until I literally unplug the HDMI cable now to get it to find itself. I'm connecting to a Panasonic Viera tv - I've tried it with Viera cast on and off... no joy. Has anyone else experienced this from the 1.8 firmware? I will swap out HDMI cable as soon as I get a new one, just in case it's a coincidental problem, but thought i'd ask in the mean time. It's been very frustrating, as it was working great (I did an update to firmware 1.7 when it first arrived, and that was ok). i went through the reset process, but it didn't revert the firmware, and it brought the zombified machine back from the dead, but the same problem keeps happening. Thanks for any suggestions ...

If you go to the "Troubleshooting guide" (on page 34 of the BD210/BD110 manual I have), you should see a procedure "To return all settings to the factory preset". I would try that, then reenter all settings. Or is that the reset you already tried?
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post #7466 of 8308
3/24/12 at 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by RaptorX View Post

I have gone up and down in speed from my ISP several times over the last 4 months and my last switch makes HD unavailable in Amazon using the 210. I only get two bars on their little screen meter just before the video starts.

I get 3.2 Mbps usings sites like Speedtest.net and Vudu's little app tells me the same thing. I can stream HD from Vudu no problem.

When I used the Roku, I was able to stream HD from Amazon no problem at the 3.2 Mbps level, although under extremely busy times of the day it would give me a buffering delay.

Is anyone aware of a higher bandwidth for HD from Amazon under the Panny versus other devices? I don't have a Netflix account so I can't comment on their performance.

Note that the bandwidth cap is controlled by my ISP at the modem level and it is essentially not possible that I was getting a higher bitrate when I used the Roku. I have decommissioned the Roku so I can't go back and try it now.

EDIT: Amazon's site says:

How fast does my Internet connection need to be?

To watch HD videos you need a fast broadband connection (3.5Mbits/sec or higher). Our 2.5Mbps HD files are streamed in high-quality 720p resolution. We'll automatically detect your connection speed, send you the highest quality stream your connection can support, and display the stream quality on the video player. When you are successfully watching HD, the stream quality on your video playback bar will turn blue and the letters "HD" will be illuminated.

I got HD with 3.2 Mbps in the past, although I may have cheated a bit as I forced a 3.5 Mbps rate in the Roku versus the default of 'Auto' (slight hack through a combination of remote key entries). Nevertheless, this obviously did not impact my actual bitrate, but maybe it impacted what was reported to the Amazon server? If so, I need to find a hack for the Panny, as I read that the actual stream coming from Amazon is only 2.5 Mbps.

That's so strange, since I'm getting much better performance with Amazon video on the panny BDT 210 than I ever was able to get with my old roku --even with cable internet service. I suspected it was because Comcast was sending in intermittent signal that made Roku choke as it tried to access Amazon HD -- but I've had no trouble with Netflix HD using the same cable connection. I got another Roku and set that up with a WIRED connection, thinking that perhaps wifi was the problem, but that one also had trouble with amazon movies. The Panny 210 seems to have no trouble with Amazon HD and Vudu. I don't know what the difference is... it's very mysterious. Someone suggested that it may have been due to the Amazon audio formatting giving my (not version 2) Roku fits, but can't really narrow down the reason scientifically. The BDT 210 just works better for me when it comes to watching Amazon streaming.
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post #7467 of 8308
3/24/12 at 2:52pm
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Originally Posted by L David Matheny View Post

If you go to the "Troubleshooting guide" (on page 34 of the BD210/BD110 manual I have), you should see a procedure "To return all settings to the factory preset". I would try that, then reenter all settings. Or is that the reset you already tried?

That's the reset I tried. It changed the settings for various features back, but it didn't revert the firmware. Thanks for the suggestion, tho. Think I should try it again?
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post #7468 of 8308
3/24/12 at 4:08pm
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Originally Posted by artwire View Post


That's the reset I tried. It changed the settings for various features back, but it didn't revert the firmware. Thanks for the suggestion, tho. Think I should try it again?

Two things I suggest you try:

1) Unplug the unit and leave it alone for 20 mins or so. Then plug it back in and do the reset again.

2) In player settings under HDMI Connection settings, try to reduce color mode from YCbCr 4:4:4 to 4:2:2. Alternatively try and disable Deep Color. This will help if hdmi bandwidth is the problem. IF this helps, you may want to try a different hdmi cable.

If none of these help, I'd definitely call Panasonic. I'd call them regardless: the more calls they get about hdmi handshake problems the better!
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post #7469 of 8308
3/24/12 at 4:39pm
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Originally Posted by Brandenborg View Post

Two things I suggest you try:

1) Unplug the unit and leave it alone for 20 mins or so. Then plug it back in and do the reset again.

2) In player settings under HDMI Connection settings, try to reduce color mode from YCbCr 4:4:4 to 4:2:2. Alternatively try and disable Deep Color. This will help if hdmi bandwidth is the problem. IF this helps, you may want to try a different hdmi cable.

If none of these help, I'd definitely call Panasonic. I'd call them regardless: the more calls they get about hdmi handshake problems the better!

I just swapped HDMI cable, and we'll see how that goes tonight . I turned everything off (didn't unplug the unit yet) and changed the cable (same brand tho it seems to be a more snug fit. When I turned tv back on, it knew there was a CD (audio) in the drawer - which is an improvement over prior behavior. I also enabled fast start and disabled Vieracast - plus adjusted a few other things (can't recall off the top of my head) that had been lost during the prior reset. I will definitely try your setting adjustments tomorrow and then unplug 20 mins /reset if that doesn't work. Thanks for the tips.

I generally don't like to call the company if I can figure things out on my own, but I agree - the more they hear from us, the more they can adjust and repair the damage, if and when something goes wonky.

I'm wondering if there is a way to decline the firmware updates as they come along, or if we can revert to a prior version? I was pretty happy with 1.7 then all hell broke loose when 1.8 arrived (and, thinking back, I had to unplug and restart for it to 'take'). Something wasn't right there. When I checked firmware last night to see if I could force an 'update' again, incase the installation had a glitch, it said that I already had the latest. I didn't see an option to reinstall it anyway. Maybe I didn't look hard enough or in the right place.
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post #7470 of 8308
3/24/12 at 5:06pm
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Originally Posted by artwire View Post

That's the reset I tried. It changed the settings for various features back, but it didn't revert the firmware. Thanks for the suggestion, tho. Think I should try it again?

Oh, it definitely won't revert the firmware. But sometimes a factory reset will clear up something by initializing all the data areas in the unit's memory. Brandenborg's suggestions sound good. I don't recall reading about many problems with the 1.8 firmware.
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