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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

That's exactly what they're claiming, thus far without offering any proof. Netflix has replaced their old 3600 Kbps 720p encodes with 3000 Kbps ones encoded with their new tech and their old 4800 Kbps encodes with 3850 Kbps ones. I personally would like to at least get some frames to compare with frame captures of their old HD encodes. Forum member msgohan made a large pile of such frame captures in 2011 and exhibited them in his "Netflix PS3 streaming comparison PIX" thread (tragically ImageShack auto-magically converted his 1080x1920 captures into 450x800 rolleyes.gif, but he still has the original files). He told me that he'd take some but he hasn't had the opportunity yet.
I know little about encoding, but find it very interesting that they can do all of this inside the existing H.264 wrapper, effectively eliminating compatability issues. Pretty cool if it works well.

"The company does this by optimizing the encoding process, which means that the results are regular, albeit smaller, H.264 files that can be played by end users without any need for additional plug-ins."
post #8252 of 8308
Relating to Netfix streaming..........I just purchased a 210 for other reasons but now wonder if it supports Netflix subtitles. My BD65 does not, and since we use them all the time, I canceled Netflix streaming. If the 210 supports subtitles, I may reconsider.

Thanks.

SMK
post #8253 of 8308
The 210 supports Netflix subtitles for titles that have them.
post #8254 of 8308
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Originally Posted by secondhander View Post

My BDT 110 has started to skip & freeze on the last 2 discs I've put in, one a blu ray the other a DVD. It was about an hour in to the blu ray and it was suddenly pixelated with occasional pop sounds on the speakers, basically unwatchable. I tried skipping a chapter and it eventually took fine and finished playing without problems. When I took the disc out (smurfs) it does have some smudges on it so I figured that caused the issue. However today I was playing a child's dvd for my 3 year old and it's freezing/skipping quite a bit throughout over a 10min period. I'm starting to wonder if it's the player now as I've owned the player for a year and haven't had a single issue like this before.

Frustrating, because I love the player.

I have this problem as well ever since the last firmware update. About 30 minutes to 1 hour into any Blu-Ray I play, the pictures starts pixelating and the sound pops. After about 30 seconds the player won't read the disc anymore. When I eject the disc, turn off the player and turn it back on, the Blu-Ray plays fine all the way to the end.

This might be the last Panasonic player I own. The last one completely failed after 1 year (just outside the warranty period).

I'm done with Panasonic Blu-Ray players if this can't be fixed with a new firmware version.
post #8255 of 8308
Welp, went and purchased a new Blu-Ray player that is NOT Panasonic. So long.
post #8256 of 8308
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Originally Posted by Chris Blount View Post

I have this problem as well ever since the last firmware update. About 30 minutes to 1 hour into any Blu-Ray I play, the pictures starts pixelating and the sound pops. After about 30 seconds the player won't read the disc anymore. When I eject the disc, turn off the player and turn it back on, the Blu-Ray plays fine all the way to the end.

This might be the last Panasonic player I own. The last one completely failed after 1 year (just outside the warranty period).

I'm done with Panasonic Blu-Ray players if this can't be fixed with a new firmware version.
Well before pitching it you should try cleaning the laser with dust off or I think you can use a Q-tip and a bit of alcohol. Read a lot of posts in other player threads where this is the problem. Worth a try.
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Has anyone had the wireless in their 210 fail? Mine won't connect to the Internet tonight. When I go into the settings, I keep getting Device Error. I recently changed my router password, so at first when it wouldn't work, I realized, oh right, I need to change that. But now when I try to go into the settings, I keep getting an error. I also tried the Easy Setup and told it to look for available wireless networks, and it gave me a failure message there too.

I tried rebooting my router, and I tried restarting the Blu-ray player, but no luck.

I bought it a little over a year ago, so I assume I'm hosed when it comes to the warranty.

Very disappointing, especially considering the fact that I've been very happy with it so far. Disc playback is flawless, and I've watched lots of stuff on Amazon Instant Video, Hulu, and Netflix with the kids on it, and it has worked like a champ until now.

I'm hoping maybe there's a firmware update I can burn to disc and use, or maybe there's some other kind of solution. If not, I assume it's not worth trying to get it fixed, so I'll have to chuck it and buy a new one.

Thanks.
post #8258 of 8308
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Originally Posted by Brad Cook View Post

Has anyone had the wireless in their 210 fail? Mine won't connect to the Internet tonight. When I go into the settings, I keep getting Device Error. I recently changed my router password, so at first when it wouldn't work, I realized, oh right, I need to change that. But now when I try to go into the settings, I keep getting an error. I also tried the Easy Setup and told it to look for available wireless networks, and it gave me a failure message there too.

I tried rebooting my router, and I tried restarting the Blu-ray player, but no luck.

I bought it a little over a year ago, so I assume I'm hosed when it comes to the warranty.

Very disappointing, especially considering the fact that I've been very happy with it so far. Disc playback is flawless, and I've watched lots of stuff on Amazon Instant Video, Hulu, and Netflix with the kids on it, and it has worked like a champ until now.

I'm hoping maybe there's a firmware update I can burn to disc and use, or maybe there's some other kind of solution. If not, I assume it's not worth trying to get it fixed, so I'll have to chuck it and buy a new one.

Thanks.
Mine still works fine.

I'd try a factory reset before you chuck it.
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Is the factory reset the "Restore defaults" option? Or is there something else?

I tried it again this morning and it worked. I was able to connect to my wireless network, so all is good, at least for now. Of course, now I'm wondering if the wireless hardware is in the process of failing and will work intermittently.
post #8260 of 8308
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Originally Posted by Brad Cook View Post

Is the factory reset the "Restore defaults" option? Or is there something else?

I tried it again this morning and it worked. I was able to connect to my wireless network, so all is good, at least for now. Of course, now I'm wondering if the wireless hardware is in the process of failing and will work intermittently.
I believe they are the same.

If you did nothing to the player and it worked, I suspect it is something in your network.
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Thanks. I appreciate the help. I have had odd network issues in the past, so maybe that was it. It was just frustrating how the Blu-ray player kept giving me errors, even when I told it to scan for available networks. Or I would select Network Settings and it would flash that screen for a second, then go back to the previous menu and say "Device Error."

But I guess all is good for now.
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I've had a DMP-BDT110 BD Player for a while now but this is the first time I ever tried to burn files to a disc to play on this particular player.

Have a 6.6GB ISO file containing AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folders which I'm burning to a DVD+R DL Disc using ImgBurn. No issues burning and finalizing the disc... pays fine on my PC... but the player just displays [cannot play]. Any suggestions?
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I can't be of too much help. However, I have a feeling that this has to do with the booktype setting. In nero you can override the default to DVD-ROM setting but I don't know what that is in ImgBurn. If you can figure it out, it should work. I use nero and never had a problem playing DRV+R DL discs.
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I have updated with v1.88 and it doesn't have cinavia......
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Thanks, but after spending hours of online searching, multiple attempts using AVCHD and basically wasting 10 discs, I gave up. Turns out Panasonic blu-ray players are notorious for this so it will be a different brand the next time.
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I have a 210 and was wondering if there is an advantage or improvement with streaming (Netflix Dolby for example), if I moved up to the 220? There is also and option to wait for the new line that comes out soon (230 or 330). I have fast internet service and the player is connected through a cable, so wifi would not be an issue.
post #8267 of 8308
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Originally Posted by justinto View Post

I have a 210 and was wondering if there is an advantage or improvement with streaming (Netflix Dolby for example), if I moved up to the 220? There is also and option to wait for the new line that comes out soon (230 or 330). I have fast internet service and the player is connected through a cable, so wifi would not be an issue.
If you have the black flash issue, that is resolved in the 220. There are no other new Netflix features. The 230 only adds streaming to smartphones AFAIK.
post #8268 of 8308
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Originally Posted by justinto View Post

I have a 210 and was wondering if there is an advantage or improvement with streaming (Netflix Dolby for example), if I moved up to the 220? There is also and option to wait for the new line that comes out soon (230 or 330). I have fast internet service and the player is connected through a cable, so wifi would not be an issue.

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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

If you have the black flash issue, that is resolved in the 220. There are no other new Netflix features. The 230 only adds streaming to smartphones AFAIK.

No black flashes and 1080p video from Netflix, which is not available on the BDTx10s (presumably neither are the Netflix "Super HD" video encodes, which are 1080p when available through your ISP). The BDTx10s do get DD+ 5.1 sound from Netflix.
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I figured as much for Super HD, but are you sure about 1080p? I could have sworn my old player did that. Even Netflix support says so (LINK). Maybe you're thinking of the previous generation 85 and 65.

What do you say, Justinto, are you getting 1080p today or a blank screen while the resolution changes?
post #8270 of 8308
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

If you have the black flash issue, that is resolved in the 220. There are no other new Netflix features. The 230 only adds streaming to smartphones AFAIK.
I thought the 230 was getting a browser.
post #8271 of 8308
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I figured as much for Super HD, but are you sure about 1080p? I could have sworn my old player did that. Even Netflix support says so (LINK). Maybe you're thinking of the previous generation 85 and 65.

Nope--at every firmware update I've plugged my BDT110 in and tested for access to the 1080p encodes in Netflix and for 5.1 sound in Amazon and it's never had either. It's always continued to have the black flashes. There's no new firmware update so unless they've done something to enable 1080p in the HTML5 code I doubt that it's got it now. I'll check it when I can.

EDIT: Okay, I've checked. First off, the version of "Example Short 23.976" that I get on the BDT110 does not have the bit-rate/resolution information overlay stamped on its component video encodes, so no reliable quick-test for resolution. Every other non-portable Netflix playing device that I have (Roku 2, PS3, Xbox 360, TiVo Premiere, BDT220, Sony BDP-S390 and this PC) gets info overlays on that clip, which would imply to me that the BDT110's not even getting one of the same sets of encodes for titles played on it (even my Nexus 7 gets a set of encodes with those overlays for "Example Short"). Given no info on "Example Short" I ran my minutes-5-thru-14-of-Ong-Bak-2 bit rate test twice and got results consistent with the 3000 Kbps highest bit rate 720p encode both times. I'm certain that at least my BDT110 (running the 1.88 firmware) is not getting 1080p video from Netflix.

I've been farting around with using Unblock-US to get Super HD from Netflix (on my Cox system, not set up for access to Netflix's Open Connect CDN) and I can get 4300- and 5800 Kbps "Super HD" encodes on my BDT220 (and all my other 1080p-capable Netflix devices) when connected to Open Connect servers and the 3850 Kbps "ordinary" 1080p encode when not.
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Originally Posted by RaptorX View Post

I thought the 230 was getting a browser.

That's what the PRs say. It's also getting a featured called "Miracast", being an ability to display what's on the screen of your Android 4.2-and-higher device on your television screen via the BD player (not sure about iOS devices). Neither gimmick interests me so I won't be "upgrading" my BD player this year.
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

That's what the PRs say. It's also getting a featured called "Miracast", being an ability to display what's on the screen of your Android 4.2-and-higher device on your television screen via the BD player (not sure about iOS devices). Neither gimmick interests me so I won't be "upgrading" my BD player this year.
Yeah, I'm just debating upgrading from the 210 to either the 220 or 230. The biggest thing for me is Amazon.com streaming problem fixes as the 210 is extremely bandwidth-greedy when it comes to Amazon HD streaming (my 30 Mbps connection frequently can't satisfy it). The 220 can be had for under $90 last time I checked Amazon. I wouldn't mind having the browser in the 230 but even better would be decent navigation of HDD music, which both the 210 and 220 lack.

I don't care about smartphone controls either.

I just returned an Oppo BDP-103. Nice-looking player, but way more money than I could justify for what it does. Plus, if you read the owner's thread, it's rather buggy.
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I figured as much for Super HD, but are you sure about 1080p? I could have sworn my old player did that. Even Netflix support says so (LINK). Maybe you're thinking of the previous generation 85 and 65.

What do you say, Justinto, are you getting 1080p today or a blank screen while the resolution changes?

There is no way of knowing the resolution, or at least I cannot find it.
post #8275 of 8308
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Originally Posted by justinto View Post

There is no way of knowing the resolution, or at least I cannot find it.

No there isn't. Some other players have a quality indicator (Sony BDPs, PS3, WD Live TV and others) but not the Panasonic BDPs. There's a Netflix test video clip called "Example Short 23.976" which has bit-rate/resolution information overlays burned into each of its component video encodes (play it in your browser to see them), but the copy which gets streamed to the BDT110 does not have those overlays so it can't be used to check (the one the BDT220 gets does). I can, however, test the bit rate of the video using the realtime bandwidth graph in my router and the BDT110 is not getting the 1080p encodes. It never has and still does not get 1080p from Netflix, regardless of what Netflix's support page claims.
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Hello, Would like to find out how to increase the number of "YouTube SHORT CUT (boxes) to more than three (3)"?
Three is the Panasonic factory "default units" available under the --- YouTube > Feature > Short Cut. Attempting to increase the number of SHORT CUT boxes to 5 or 10, for a more convenient direct access to those selected YouTube videos. Currently, the access procedure is through the --- YouTube > Feature > Search routine via the Panasonic remote keyboard. Workable, rather tedious. Cannot find related information either in the BDT215 Owner's Manual, or a search for "YouTube SHORT CUT" under this thread of 276 pages.
I bought this Panasonic DMP-BDT215 during 2011 X'mas. It has been trouble free. Enjoyed the AVATAR 3D very much. It has been used as a BluRay DVD player. Lately, exploring the built-in wifi YouTube connection with Verizon FiOS, and installed a 4GB SDHC card. The YouTube video and audio download streaming have been outstanding. Have not tried with NetFlex, Vudu, Bloomberg, or Skype. Thanks.
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I have my bdt110 hooked up to a panasonic tv which shows the resolution of the input signal . I was watching "House of cards" and the tv was showing a resolution of 1080p.
post #8278 of 8308
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Originally Posted by dandan123 View Post

I have my bdt110 hooked up to a panasonic tv which shows the resolution of the input signal . I was watching "House of cards" and the tv was showing a resolution of 1080p.

The BDT 110 is not switching output resolutions with changes in the resolution of the source; it's just upconverting everything to 1080p. If you play something on Netflix which is 720p-only (Super 8, for example) does you television say 720p? Start VUDU and play the 2 minute preview of something, selecting HD quality. Does your television say 720p? Your television has no idea what resolution the source encoding of something is, just the resolution of the decoded raster that it receives.

The Netflix player is adaptive bit rate; every HD title will have at least 3 standard def video encodes and the player will start with one of them (there used to be 6, but they're starting to cut that down). As it becomes confident of its ability to keep its buffer full under current conditions on your connection to Netflix's servers, the player will ramp up through the video encodes, going from 480p to 720p to 1080p. Generally televisions will momentarily pause while switching from one resolution to another, usually displaying a distorted image with a break in the sound. Adaptive bit rate players need for the platform to be set to a fixed output resolution, upconverting any lower resolution to that one.
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Hey guys, has anyone tried to hook up a turtle beach x12 to this player? It has audio out so I hooked up the cables, plugged in the usb and it powered the headphones but they don't work. Any idea why?
post #8280 of 8308
I just picked up the BDT310 for $63.00 and Best Buy. I'm upgrading from the BD65 and like the new GUI and speed of the unit. So far so good.
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