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post #1 of 32
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I made several changes to my HT setup so I thought I'd update my configuration post. A current list of my equipment: 

 

Sharp 70" Q+ SQ Series TV (not shown here)

Denon 4311CI

Ascend Horizon Center (NrT)

Ascend Towers (NrT)

Definitive Technology BP1.2x Surrounds

Epik Empire Sub

 

Naked pics of my Ascend front stage 

 

 

 

 

Epik Empire in the back corner doubles as an end table.  I have it oriented long way for better bass response.  

 

Close up of Horizon center

 

Tomorrow I take delivery of my new 70" Sharp Q+ series. Here are a few 3D goodies I ordered off Amazon.  

 

 

My old set up: 

 

Equipment:
AVR - Denon 1909
L/R - Definitive Tech SM450's
Center - Definitive Tech PM2000
Surronds - Definitive Tech BP1.2x's
Sub - Epik Empire


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Edited by Jahjd2000 - 3/31/14 at 3:39pm
post #2 of 32
Looks great. Its clean, modern and functional.
post #3 of 32
Clean and organized. I like your setup.
post #4 of 32
Very nice. Great job mounting the TV.
post #5 of 32
Good clean looking setup, congrats on mounting your tv yourself. There is no better feeling when you DIY.
post #6 of 32
I love it. Can you tell me how high from the floor your TV is? I'm looking to mount mine on the wall and yours looks like it is in a great spot.
post #7 of 32
Very clean and looks great!!
post #8 of 32
Looks great, esp good job on the tv. I'm sure that empire can make the sliding glass door rattle.
post #9 of 32
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the kind words!

Omard - my TV is a 52" Samsung and the bottom of the TV measures 32" from the floor and the middle of the screen is about 50". I attempted to mount it at eye level from my seating area plus a little extra height to accomodate the center speaker (so that they weren't on top of each other). The height works well in my living room.
post #10 of 32
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Gelinas - surprisingly my glass door doesn't rattle very much, at least nothing discernable. I've had to "bass proof" everything else, but I rarely hear the window rattling.
post #11 of 32
Thanks for the reply. I looks very nice. I mount mine yesterday and it is 40 from the ground. I think it looks high but it somehow feels right when I sit down. How do you think it looks. The first pic the TV is raised so i can adjust the cables.
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post #12 of 32
Hi Jahjd2000, you've got an extremely nice and clean set up here. Congratulations!

A couple of things I may mention for the sake of further considerations or just simply to talk about:

1. I may toe-in the front L/R speakers to face the MLP (Main Listening Position, aka center of couch), speakers usually have their widest frequency range on-axis. So, why not make use of that phenomenon with a little effort, eh?

2. Can not really see on the picture, but the Center may be better if tilted upward, again to be on-axis at the MLP (seated ear height), that will surely improve dialog intelligability.

3. I see you put the Sub just next to the couch. I might have placed it up front, probably on the right side of the Ikea console, but, of course, all depends on how it sounds!! Placing the Sub so much in a corner may bring up issues of additional room gain resulting in muddy/boomy bass. For more tips on Subwoofer placement, here's something that might interest you as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV3oLLMgS-M

4. And finally, did you set up Audyssey on the Denon 1909 with all 6 mic positions? How is it? Do you like what Audyssey does for room correction?
post #13 of 32
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mogorf, thanks for the compliment and your observations are deadly accurate! I knew adjustments were required but I've been busy with family in town so I put them off. I had some downtime today and decided to make the necessary tweaks.

First off, I'm simply amazed that you noticed the center was tilted too far up. I could barely see it sitting from my couch let alone from the grainy picture I posted.

Secondly, my sub does sound best to the right of the media console (sub crawl). Unfortunately it was too close to my fireplace which you can't see in the picture. When I placed it to the left of the media console it encroached the walkway, so really the only practical place for it was next to the sofa.

I reran Audyssey today and it made a huge difference. The previous Audyssey setting was based on the center being above the TV and L/R speakers much higher than where they are now. After making said adjustments I'm back to audio bliss.
post #14 of 32
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post #15 of 32
You have a great looking set up. The hard wood floors look outstanding! Overall very impressive. JT
post #16 of 32
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Thanks for the compliment! Yeah we really like our floors. We have a big dog and so we wanted something that could hide scratches, etc. The color and hand scraped finish does the job well.
post #17 of 32
Awesome job, well done , I like it.
post #18 of 32
+1 nice setup, and yes very clean. I'm loving the new console for your t.v. smile.gif Well done and not to mention the photos looks great from your phone smile.gif ...
post #19 of 32
Simple. I like it
post #20 of 32
Like it very much
post #21 of 32
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I updated my original post with new pictures.
post #22 of 32
Looking good smile.gif how she sounding!
post #23 of 32
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Originally Posted by audiofan1 View Post

Looking good smile.gif how she sounding!

The setup sounds amazing. I have a lot of hard surfaces to contend with, but overall I'm loving the arrangement. I'm 80/20 HT to music. The flexibility of the 4311 and Ascends provide for a great HT experience--and the Horizon is an amazing center. And the Empire does a great job filling in the lows for movies. If I'm going to be critical, integrating my Empire with music could be improved. It's not bad, but it's not as enveloping as it is with HT. I'm thinking about adding two SB-2000s near my towers to pull the bass upfront for music listening.
post #24 of 32
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Originally Posted by Jahjd2000 View Post

The setup sounds amazing. I have a lot of hard surfaces to contend with, but overall I'm loving the arrangement. I'm 80/20 HT to music. The flexibility of the 4311 and Ascends provide for a great HT experience--and the Horizon is an amazing center. And the Empire does a great job filling in the lows for movies. If I'm going to be critical, integrating my Empire with music could be improved. It's not bad, but it's not as enveloping as it is with HT. I'm thinking about adding two SB-2000s near my towers to pull the bass upfront for music listening.

Love the looks of that center channel and will keep Ascend on the short list wink.gif
post #25 of 32
That center channel is just epic.
post #26 of 32
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Originally Posted by Jahjd2000 View Post

The setup sounds amazing. I have a lot of hard surfaces to contend with, but overall I'm loving the arrangement. I'm 80/20 HT to music. The flexibility of the 4311 and Ascends provide for a great HT experience--and the Horizon is an amazing center. And the Empire does a great job filling in the lows for movies. If I'm going to be critical, integrating my Empire with music could be improved. It's not bad, but it's not as enveloping as it is with HT. I'm thinking about adding two SB-2000s near my towers to pull the bass upfront for music listening.

Long time no talk, eh? smile.gif Congrats again for your upgrade, makes me a bit jealous, but in a good sense! smile.gif

Now, let's get down to business! smile.gif

1. Center speaker: could you do me (actually yourself) a favor and pull that monster (!) a tad bit up-front? wink.gif Just about an inch so that its nudged off the cabinet. Worry not it won't fall off but if you could also find a way to tilt it (with some clever and nice looking supporter) it will make it face exact seated ear height on-axis with the MLP (Main Listening Position) resulting in an overall in-room improvement of dialog intelligibility. You will need to rerun Audyssey after such physical changes, but worth the effort. smile.gif

2. As regards hard surfaces, yeap, an area rug can also add to the improvement of absorbing mid to high frequencies bounced off the floor once its placed right in front of that beautiful cabinet as an addendum to the main rug around the seating area. A table cloth on the coffee table may also be considered as another good factor. All these seem to be small issues, but in the end one by one they all add up in an increased improvement of the audio Nirvana we all strive to achieve. smile.gif And a great opportunity to invite our better half to cooperate in choosing the right rug and the right table cloth. For the man the design/pattern/color/etc. is not as important as the final result of audio bliss, not to mention the additional long-term improvement of "Honey to Honey" relationship when all this is done in order to please each other's wishes. smile.gif

3. Please note there is no sucha thing as pulling bass up front. Music or film it makes no difference. Bass is omni-directional for our ears, it doesn't matter where the sub(s) are placed coz we can only sense the level of bass but not its direction. Though the placement of subs will always have other issues with so-called room modes that are characteristic of sub-room interaction, thus needs further considerations for best placement. Me thinks a dual-sub arrangement (instead of three subs) can do wonders (one at the sofa, one up front), especially when you make use of Audyssey's MultEQ XT32 flavor having the ability to EQ two subs as one. The Denon AVR-4311 has two real sub outputs, not like many AVRs that even though there are two RCA jacks but in reality they are just Y-connected inside the machine. For further reference you may read the blog of Audyssey: Small vs. Large. Link in my sig.

See Ya later. smile.gif
post #27 of 32
Thread Starter 
Mogorf,

Thanks for the thoughtful reply and yes it has been a while!

You're absolutely right, I need to angle the center up several degrees. Someone on the Ascend forum recommended a product that provides a 1" lift and fits the Horizon perfectly. I need to go back and find that SKU number.

Good call on the hard surfaces. Funny thing is, I had to persuade my wife to get the area rug underneath the coffee table. I knew it would help acoustically but she didn't think aesthetically that we needed one. It ended up being a nice compromise. I got something that improved the sound, and she found a rug that was aesthetically pleasing. Win-win smile.gif.

As for the bass being pulled upfront, I probably should have used the correct term: localization. At times I can locate the sub either because it's too loud on that particular track/movie or it's a higher frequency (I have the x-over set at 80hz). I thought about adding a second sub to smooth out the bass response and reduce the localization.

Thanks again for the suggestions. They are definitely things I'll look into. Cheers!
post #28 of 32
Very, very nice and clean room setup. I like it!!
post #29 of 32
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the compliments, limp. Since posting these pictures I've since installed/mounted my new Sharp TV and last night I placed an order for dual Rythmic E15HP subs. So far I'm loving the TV and I can't wait for the subs to arrive! I'll update the pictures after I've installed and dialed in the subs. A fun but expensive hobby.
Edited by Jahjd2000 - 4/10/14 at 1:42pm
post #30 of 32
It's like a bizarro version of my room. Very nice!
Edited by madhuski - 4/13/14 at 1:44pm
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