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post #31 of 119
The whole 12 minute trailer is up and it's a doozy.
post #32 of 119
I'll just go ahead and paste here what I had to say about it over in the Xbox section:

I'm seeing a lot of "follow the leader" crap in these trailers. It's like a better copy of COD or Homefront, where you don't get to ever actually do anything yourself. For example, the main characters in these games apparently never learned the complicated mechanical movements of twisting their wrist to the left, in order to operate a door nob. It looks like yet another crap military shooter where you just wait for your team mates to do everything for you, and you just follow them.

Bad Company 1 had a fantastic single-player campaign where you personally did a lot of the stuff that was required. Your team was just around to provide comedic banter, share the incoming bullets with, and rescue you when you got in trouble. Bad Company 2 shifted far more toward the COD4 design of "linear follow the leader", though it still rested kind of in the middle with large open maps and occasionally varying paths. This is looking to be full-bore "If you aren't on your mark, you're going to die. Do what we tell you and nothing else.", to match the modern COD titles. Count me extremely disappointed. Yes, it's more cinematic, but this style of play is anything but fun.

While I played through the excellent Bad Company 1 campaign three times in rapid succession, Bad Company 2's campaign was burned through as quickly as possible and then promptly forgotten, just as COD4 and MW2's. Thankfully, Bad Company 2 followed Bad Company's excellent multiplayer model, providing me hours upon hours of amazing audio, constantly changing battlefield tactics, and fantastically destructible environments. If Bad Company 3, uh, Battlefield 3 gives me that again, then I will be a happy man.

Anyone getting their panties wet over these trailers though, and what it shows of single player? I'd have to wonder what is wrong with you that would lead you to want that style of game play. Are there those among you that are so proud of your lack of imagination that you need your hand held through the entirety of the game? Wait. Dumb question. Look at the COD sales figures of Modern Warfare and newer and I guess I get that answer real quick, don't I?
post #33 of 119
Dang man, it's just a game. The trailer gets the point across that it's a pretty immersive game regardless of how that's accomplished. Good thing you don't have to buy it.
post #34 of 119
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Originally Posted by darklordjames View Post

I'll just go ahead and paste here what I had to say about it over in the Xbox section:

I'm seeing a lot of "follow the leader" crap in these trailers. It's like a better copy of COD or Homefront, where you don't get to ever actually do anything yourself. For example, the main characters in these games apparently never learned the complicated mechanical movements of twisting their wrist to the left, in order to operate a door nob. It looks like yet another crap military shooter where you just wait for your team mates to do everything for you, and you just follow them.

Bad Company 1 had a fantastic single-player campaign where you personally did a lot of the stuff that was required. Your team was just around to provide comedic banter, share the incoming bullets with, and rescue you when you got in trouble. Bad Company 2 shifted far more toward the COD4 design of "linear follow the leader", though it still rested kind of in the middle with large open maps and occasionally varying paths. This is looking to be full-bore "If you aren't on your mark, you're going to die. Do what we tell you and nothing else.", to match the modern COD titles. Count me extremely disappointed. Yes, it's more cinematic, but this style of play is anything but fun.

While I played through the excellent Bad Company 1 campaign three times in rapid succession, Bad Company 2's campaign was burned through as quickly as possible and then promptly forgotten, just as COD4 and MW2's. Thankfully, Bad Company 2 followed Bad Company's excellent multiplayer model, providing me hours upon hours of amazing audio, constantly changing battlefield tactics, and fantastically destructible environments. If Bad Company 3, uh, Battlefield 3 gives me that again, then I will be a happy man.

Anyone getting their panties wet over these trailers though, and what it shows of single player? I'd have to wonder what is wrong with you that would lead you to want that style of game play. Are there those among you that are so proud of your lack of imagination that you need your hand held through the entirety of the game? Wait. Dumb question. Look at the COD sales figures of Modern Warfare and newer and I guess I get that answer real quick, don't I?


lol, man you are such a tool.
post #35 of 119
I just hope the multiplayer maps are bigger than Bad Company 2. Sure it was ok for playing my ps3 version with low player counts. But playing on pc, I felt like i couldnt breathe and every corner a guy would be there.
post #36 of 119
The maps will be way bigger. They already said somewhere that they will be BF2 sized and bigger. Can you imagine planes in a map that's the size of the ones in BC2? lol that would be pretty funny to see.
post #37 of 119
Boy I wish it would be here already . It just gets better and better with every preview.

post #38 of 119
BF3 has a chance to be the most epic fps ever made, if they can deliver.
post #39 of 119
Looks great!!! I'm looking forward to this game, more than any other coming out this year, so far.
post #40 of 119
In-depth Q & A about the game with some of the devs, the live stream starts @ 4:30 pacific.

Right here------> http://live-event.ea.com/e3/chat/battlefield
post #41 of 119
I'm impressed with the smaller things like lighting and particle effects and precise sound positioning. This will probably be the first pc fps I'll actively play online quite a bit. I can't wait to see it in action.
post #42 of 119
It will be getting a preorder from me for sure. Sure hope Steam gets it soon and were not forced to buy it on Origin. After a recent Windows 7 rebuild, I realized how much I like Steam. So much easier just to have to move one big folder, then reinstall all my games.
post #43 of 119
I may just be building my first gaming PC for this and Skyrim. I just don't see the console versions being anywhere near the PC versions, even with their reduced resolutions and framerates. It will be especially bad in my case, since I picked up one of those 70inch Sharp LCDs, the current consoles are really showing their age in 75% of the games I play. (PS3 exclusives still look pretty good)

I'm going to wait for more info on the spec requirements before I order a gaming PC, I'll probably get something prebuilt from ibuypower once we know the requirements for it to run at 1080p 60fps on max settings.
post #44 of 119
Quite a few people seem to be buying/building or upgrading PCs mostly for Battlefield 3 and Skyrim.

We need more killer apps like these to get many more people over to the PC side of gaming.
post #45 of 119
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Originally Posted by MSmith83 View Post

Quite a few people seem to be buying/building or upgrading PCs mostly for Battlefield 3 and Skyrim.

We need more killer apps like these to get many more people over to the PC side of gaming.

I agree, it's too bad companies that have been built on their PC heritage are abandoning it for consoles. I'm honestly to the point where if it takes DRM like what Ubisoft or EA use to get games built for the PC I'll take it. I'm tired of getting console ports.
post #46 of 119
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BF3 PS3 gameplay on Falon last night. I like Falon, he's the only talk show host who's hip to new technology.
post #47 of 119
It actually looks pretty good, graphics wise on the console, I must say.
post #48 of 119
The console footage doesn't look too bad. Shadow resolution and texture detail on the more insignificant objects looks very low in some areas, but a developer can only do so much with such an aging piece of hardware.
post #49 of 119
*sigh*

I hate to say it (or be the one to say it) but I predict that this one will turn out looking pretty much like BFBC2 but with some cool scripted events/effects.

I'm cynical irt the gaming world at this time. Damn near every game that looks m*therf**king bada** turns out to be a disappointment. With the whole Origin thing added on to that. I have my expectations very low. Don't count me out though! I am a long time BF fan. Was playing the game in beta before the whole open world fps craze even existed.
post #50 of 119
I just have to wonder, if those "screenshots" that they keep putting out are the game running at max settings, then could any gaming rig actually run it at 60fps 1080p let alone in 3D? They seem to be making this game increadibly scaleable depending on your rig, and the "max" settings could easily be designed for future hardware...

If that is indeed true, then I may put off building my gaming rig until I learn what it takes to run it with that kind of graphical capabilities.
post #51 of 119
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Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON View Post

I just have to wonder, if those "screenshots" that they keep putting out are the game running at max settings, then could any gaming rig actually run it at 60fps 1080p let alone in 3D? They seem to be making this game increadibly scaleable depending on your rig, and the "max" settings could easily be designed for future hardware...

If that is indeed true, then I may put off building my gaming rig until I learn what it takes to run it with that kind of graphical capabilities.

Such concern means that you should definitely wait to see what GPU(s) will be needed for your intentions.

The only problem is that AMD and Nvidia's higher-end 28nm GPUs will probably be unveiled not too long after, thereby driving current GPU prices down and much more powerful ones will likely be offered.
post #52 of 119
Anyone got 1080p screenshots of Bad Company 2 running at max settings? I can't seem to find any decent shots (most are heavily compressed) I want to get an idea of how much better games look running on a decent PC compared to a console but I just can't find decent recourses on the subject.
post #53 of 119
Just took a quick shot for you. Not sure how much justice this does as it's not a scene with light coming through the forest, but I thought it was a significant enough boost that it had me play through the campaign again over the weekend (originally played on 360). I'm sure BF3 will look significantly better.
post #54 of 119
Quote:
Originally Posted by PENDRAG0ON View Post

Anyone got 1080p screenshots of Bad Company 2 running at max settings? I can't seem to find any decent shots (most are heavily compressed) I want to get an idea of how much better games look running on a decent PC compared to a console but I just can't find decent recourses on the subject.

Here's some shots from this site.

He's actually rendering the game at 3840x2160 then downsampling to 1920x1080 for output to the display. Interesting stuff.

post #55 of 119
Very nice, makes me want to build a PC right now, but I will wait until we know just what Battlefield 3 requires to run and what the upcoming hardware can do before I start to plan my build. In the meantime I will get the PS3 version just so that I can play it, it should make the PC version seem all the better once I can play it.
post #56 of 119
Bwahahahah!!!

http://www.gamersbook.com/scene/news...etting-nerfed/

*sigh*

I hate knowing exactly how videogames will turn out waaaayyy before they come out. My predictions are 99% and I HATE THAT. Argh! Why does BF3 have to look more disappointing every time I hear something new about it??!?!

Videogames - you are disappoint
post #57 of 119
In defense of the picture on the website, I wouldn't expect a building of that size to come down. I look at that building being similar to the 3 story construction building in BC2.

I hope based on their response that smaller buildings will still come down. I'm hoping they just added facades to the buildings you can't take down to add to what we've already had.

Then again, I try to be optimistic until I see it myself.
post #58 of 119
I understand that but you gotta remember everyone blowing a wad in their pants after each new video comes out shows a huge building falling over like one is think that kind of thing will happen in game. I dunno, man. I've been ranting about this stuff all year. Devs put up mega hype for their games, fans follow in suit thinking it will be just as awesome as the devs say it will be. Said game comes out missing pretty much all the things about it that made it special, new, groundbreaking..whatever and it just ends up being run-of-the-mill.

For $50-60 per game with more and more features being taken out. I will complain and keep complaining.

The most frustrating part is I can always predict these things to the 'T'. I said everything that happened to Crysis2 would happen well over a year ago. Sad times.
post #59 of 119
I guess my expectation from that video was that it was a sequenced event in single player. I wasn't expecting that kind of destruction in multiplayer....yet, in this generation. But, I can see people making that connection.

I certainly understand where you're coming from, but I've gotta keep the faith until I at least have a crack at it. I figure that they've waited this long to make a true sequel to BF2, that they're going to put into it as much as possible (and unfortunately, somewhat hamstrung based on porting it to consoles).

At this point, I don't want to be disappointed in the only game I've really been waiting for since it's been announced.

Edit...and BTW, when you setting up that BC2 server? I picked it up cheap (unfortunately, not on Steam), but haven't been able to play with anyone but randoms.
post #60 of 119
Hey, me either. I WANT to love these games but they keep disappointing.
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