Official LG 47LW5600/55LW5600 "Passive 3D" Owners Thread - Page 50

cowboytoto is the price only good in store. It doesn't show that price online.

Cont: don't want to get one that that is unable to add new algorithm.. id also like to see this local dimming nano set. Although. don't want to spend twice as much for 10% better pq ( math just for illustration of point) thank for all post and help.

This question should probaly be on a Panasonic thread but little traffic there and I see a few here have
the Panny DMP-BDT210 Blu ray. Can anyone tell me if it is compatible with Wireless N - 5.0 GHz ?

No price is good for only in store. But you have an option to call in at your local austin store for pickup. They will hold it for you if you do. Let me know.

Are they running the old sale price on the 55 as well?

I don't have my manual here bbsstuff, but according to Home Theater Loft, it offers built-in 2.4ghz & 5ghz wireless g/n radios.

Awesome! You are right. I called my local fry's and they said just to bring in the receipt to get the price adjusted.

Thanks rarjar. I switched my Linksys router to the 5GHz band because the Netflix streaming was much better so want the Bluray to do 5.0 also.

There's no keyboard in the app, but moving the arrow/cursor on the on-screen keyboard works much better with the app [iPod] than with the wand.

Oh, ugh. The problem I have isn't dealing with the wand; I'm fine with that, it's with the horrifically laggy interface with the TV, and that's what I was hoping the app would bypass. Doesn't sound like it does that.

Can anyone please explain the repercussions of the new 1080i algorithm. Will it work with a 120Hz set or will it make the 5600 redundant?

I don't think anyone could explain it until we know what sets the firmware is being applied to. AFAIK nothing concrete has been reported yet, just wild speculation

Has anyone noticed 3d PQ improvement with the last firmware update? I noticed that directv 3d channels have much better quality. I have not noticed any quality difference with 3d blurays like Avatar.

I just returned back from Fry's with my price adjustment. $108.75 back in my pocket. What a great 47" TV for $799

Also, my firmware updated this morning. The only thing I noticed was that the volume is much louder now. I was watching a program while watching the update. When the TV rebooted the volume was much higher and had to turn it down.

Sorry, as I know that this has been discussed several times throughout this post, but I believe I have found a way to "completely" fix the input lag on this system.

If you go to Input > Input Labels (green button), label whichever device you are having issues with as "PC", and the input lag will vanish, regardless what picture or AV mode you are in.

I have tried several of the other fixes, including game mode, and manually turning all of the image processing features off manually, but still measured a 50-100ms lag when compared to my computer monitor in lag tests. I know that other people have commented that manually adjusting the settings made the lag unnoticeable for all but the most anal users-- I guess I was one of them, because it was driving me crazy.

Changing the Input label to "PC" will block off True Motion, Real Cinema, d. contract., etc. from being editable options, but for some reason seems to work much better than manually adjusting these options. My mouse trailing when connected to my PC is gone, and input lag is finally truly gone from games.

As I said, I'm sorry to beat a dead horse over the input lag issue, but I read through this post trying to solve the issue, and did not see this solution. I was almost convinced to return the tv over the lag issues, I hope this fix will help others more fully enjoy this great unit.

No worries, your solution is welcome! Especially to those who had lag issues. Thanks for taking the time to share!

Isn't that awesome! $799 for a still an great TV! Yeah I'm still really happy with the LG LW5600.

No, unfortunately the 47" only. This special runs for two days only. Today (June 1st and tomorrow June 2nd)

I found this explanation:

As per Flatpanelshd, LG has modified the algorithm for processing 3D on their Cinema 3D sets..

Before the Cinema 3D technology worked like this: During a time period of 1/200 seconds the TV showed 2 frames; 540 lines for the left eye and 540 lines for the right eye.
The new algorithm shows 4 frames instead of 2 during the 1/200 second time frame. It shows 1080i for the left eye and 1080i for the right eye.

When these are combined the two pictures create a 1080p picture according to LG. LG believes that this update improves picture quality on their Cinema 3D TVs to compete directly with the active 3D TVs such as 3D plasma TVs. You need to turn off TruMotion to utilize the new algorithm.

If this new logic indeed enables Passive 3D to match the Active 3D picture resolution, it could really be holding all the aces over Active.
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Doesn't say which models this applies to but if you have to have Trumotion off to use the algorithm would the fact that it is 120Hz or 240Hz matter ?

For some reason, the UI is faster with the app/iPod. If you know someone with the iPod Touch or iPhone, invite them over, since the app is free, and have them give it a go.

I have a Ipod Touch and the app works great but I don't use it. I use a universal remote to control both my directv and LG. The responsiveness is extremely good. I have not even taken the 2 LG remotes out of their bags. I can't comment if they are the problem or not.

I see someone like that in the mirror every morning when I brush my teeth.

And I have a Harmony One...the responsiveness of the remote isn't the problem, it's what the TV does with it once it gets it when it's inside of the YouTube app. Try doing a search when another video is playing and you will see what I mean.

I agree the damn thing is quite sluggish when you are trying to search while a video is playing. The UI of the app is terrible as well. BUT the HD quality is amazing and it is seemingly buffer free. So I can cope for the time being.

Has anybody tried to go to Pandora.com on the LG browser? Does it work and play music through the TV? I will have to test it tonight.

Does someone know how to get 3D Comcast movies to work. When I turn on 3D on the LG, I cannot select anything but 2D -3D conversion. It will not move. I looked through the thread but couldn't find it, so I see a two images, one bottom and one on top of the same thing. As I posted, LG 3D will not move the selections, which are all greyed out. Thanks,

Doc

You are truly a great fellow. Can totally tell the difference in black ops. Wish it didn't disable local led lighting but to get rid of the lag it's worth it.

is your STB one of the ones listed as supporting 3D?

http://customer.comcast.com/Pages/FA...-set-top-boxes

I have the Pace RNG110 (HD cable box) and it works fine. It's connected using HDMI.

Yep. I have the Cisco RNG150. The TV will not let me choose anything but 2D to 3D conversion. The remaining choices are grey and the selection cursor does not move. I am using a 1.4 HDMI cable.

See post #182 over in the "LG Passive LW6500" thread in the 3D Displays Forum:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1321920&page=7

shingdaz provided a link to an excellent in-depth review of Passive 3D TVs where the reviewers were using a 120Hz LG 55LW5600 model with a pre-release version of the 1080i algorithm firmware. So yes, we know that it can work on 120Hz models (at very least, that particular model)....but we still don't know when/if it will be released for sure (or if it already has). Keep in mind that just because we know that it can work on 120Hz models doesn't necessarily mean that LG will definetly release it for ALL models, even though that has been implied. Things are always subject to change without notice (as we've seen with the 65" LW6500's refresh rate).

Also keep in mind that we won't really know if this new firmware will be anything too spectacular either until we have a way of knowing for certain that it's actually been released and then hearing people's reports on it. I've seen a 55LW5600 running the old firmware and thought it was pretty darn good 3D, so I really don't think it'd make all of LG's 120Hz sets "redundant" or bad if they didn't get the update...it'd still be a pretty sweet 3D experience, imo...perhaps slightly less sweet at worst. Personally, I'd feel pretty confident buying a 120Hz model and thinking that I'd be getting the extra perk of the new 1080i firmware at some point down the road.

Who knows..maybe it's already been released...LG should give release notes with their updates. Some posters are saying that they think their 3D might have improved recently. And some are also saying that they think the 6500's 3D looks better than the 5600's...so maybe some extra processing or bells/whistles were added to the 6500 lineup or something...or maybe it's just wishful thinking...or maybe it's due to inconsistent viewing environments...or maybe that 240Hz refresh rate makes a difference. Too much speculation and variables for the moment. Not worth losing sleep over.

Two things. First, Make sure that you force the STB to output 1080i. If you try to use "Auto" or "Native" mode, the TV may think it's getting 480i/P due to the format and you can't enable the true 3D modes. You can press the "Enter" button on the TV remote to see what resolution it thinks it sees. This happened to me on my Scientific Atlanta STB's.
Second. After forcing the STB to output 1080i, and it still doesn't work, try another HDMI cable. Even though I got the package from BuyDig with multiple 1.4 HDMI cables, one of them will NOT pass 3D, although it seems to work for everything else.

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