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post #1771 of 8099
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Originally Posted by mrfatboy View Post

Thanks for the tip. I don't even know what the "just scan" option does. I will have to read up on it. Can you tell us how much the calibration cost?


I just switched my settings from 16:9 to "just scan". I can see a noticable Improvement in PQ. This tv gets better and better as i dial it in
post #1772 of 8099
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Originally Posted by clemon79 View Post

Alright, let's try this again.

So, to you people looking for the "LG 3D Demo", put yourself in the shoes of one Captain Jack Sparrow. If HE were looking for such a video, whilst sailing about in his ship, where might he look? Possibly an inlet of some kind, a cove, a sound?

Maybe, but I bet that Morgan the Pirate could kick his butt!
post #1773 of 8099
I'm not a videophile to any degree so forgive me if my questions are dumb. I just got the 47" set from Frys yesterday and I love it.

I was watching Cloudy with a chance of meatballs bluray last night and I noticed that in the opening when there is only black on the screen and some lettering moving across the screen, this large blob of light followed the letters around the screen. Is this what clouding is? I'm using the settings posted earlier in this thread and was watching through my PS3. I labeled my PS3 as game. It was pretty funky to see the blobs/clouds but it only happened on all black screens, the whole movie I never saw anything like it.
post #1774 of 8099
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Originally Posted by HairyPinkElephan View Post

I'm not a videophile to any degree so forgive me if my questions are dumb. I just got the 47" set from Frys yesterday and I love it.

I was watching Cloudy with a chance of meatballs bluray last night and I noticed that in the opening when there is only black on the screen and some lettering moving across the screen, this large blob of light followed the letters around the screen. Is this what clouding is? I'm using the settings posted earlier in this thread and was watching through my PS3. I labeled my PS3 as game. It was pretty funky to see the blobs/clouds but it only happened on all black screens, the whole movie I never saw anything like it.

This sounds more like you have local dimming on. The led lights in the back panel are lighting up around the text in your example.
post #1775 of 8099
I want to watch this is a mostly dark room and this part of Chad's review troubles me:

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The down side to all this contrast goodness is that black bars on letterbox movies showed some fluctuation. On 2.40:1 movies, if there was a bright object in the lower left corner of the screen, then that quarter or so of the bottom black bar lightened. This effect was noticeable only in a dark room. I also saw that a black screen was not illuminated evenly, with cloudy areas throughout the screen. These could be serious flaws is you prefer to watch wide aspect ratio movies in a dark room. Thankfully, the side effects of the zone dimming disappeared for the most part when the room lighting was normal. I could still see the black bars fluctuate if I looked for it, but it wasn't distracting.

Has anyone else experienced less than optimal performance in a dark room?
post #1776 of 8099
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Originally Posted by mrfatboy View Post

This sounds more like you have local dimming on. The led lights in the back panel are lighting up around the text in your example.

I have it on medium as it seems most in this thread are using. I imagine the benefits of LD in the actual movie outweigh the blobs in the intro.

What do you all think?
post #1777 of 8099
Hey guys,

I just picked up the 55 on Friday. Had to swap it out today because of some bad pixels that were insanely too bright. Anyways, I've used the settings from this thread and it looks good. I'm wondering if anyone could provide me with the best settings for sports. Im trying to get the best possible picture for watching baseball and the finals. Thanks!
post #1778 of 8099
@Killerz928>>

In Chad's Review "The down side to all this contrast goodness is that black bars on letterbox movies showed some fluctuation. On 2.40:1 movies, if there was a bright object in the lower left corner of the screen, then that quarter or so of the bottom black bar lightened. This effect was noticeable only in a dark room. I also saw that a black screen was not illuminated evenly, with cloudy areas throughout the screen. These could be serious flaws is you prefer to watch wide aspect ratio movies in a dark room. Thankfully, the side effects of the zone dimming disappeared for the most part when the room lighting was normal. I could still see the black bars fluctuate if I looked for it, but it wasn't distracting. "

>>>This is the very reason i took back my Sony XBR46HX909. IMO, you're going to get this sort of thing with all LD, whether full array or edge-lit, so if this kind of thing is a deal breaker you should opt for a plasma. I would've taken the 5600 back too, if it wasn't for the way it resolves 3d, which is exceptional! So, I try to at least have 1 light on in the room & the 5600 is more than adequate.
post #1779 of 8099
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Originally Posted by ubermoxi View Post

Active "glasses" are dead.

Samsung is working on RDZ, which basically moves the active shutter to the TV, and you would wear passive glasses. The only issue would be possible flicker if you are sensitive enough.

A simple but costly solution is to double the resolution of the panel, then the only issue is the (finer) lines you will see if you sit close enough.

Passive is a great alternative, but as long as passive is half resolution, with black scan lines separating the active ones, active glasses will still be preferred by some consumers.

Michael
post #1780 of 8099
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Originally Posted by Michael2000 View Post

Passive is a great alternative, but as long as passive is half resolution, with black scan lines separating the active ones, active glasses will still be preferred by some consumers.

Michael

LG has changed the algorithm, allegedly, which does away with that. Although, no one can confirm if the latest f/w here in the US has that on board or not.

I used to have a 50PX950, which is the LG top-of-the-line 2010 pdp, and it had active 3d, which was very nice. Now that i have the 5600 i prefer the passive over the active. It's so much brighter than what i saw with my PX and my neighbor's panny VT20. No flickering & I've yet to experience any cross-talk whatsoever.
post #1781 of 8099
Anyone posted some good 3d settings yet? I've seen the 2d by Mr K, but how bout some 3d settings!
post #1782 of 8099
Does anyone know if LG plans to add the option to use subtitles in Netflix?

Wii has this option and it would be great to not have to switch to the Wii to use them.
post #1783 of 8099
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Originally Posted by leftyguitar1963 View Post
LG has changed the algorithm, allegedly, which does away with that. Although, no one can confirm if the latest f/w here in the US has that on board or not.
There is no way any manufacturer can get rid of the blank scan lines. It is inherent to the technology.

Michael
post #1784 of 8099
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Originally Posted by Michael2000 View Post
There is no way any manufacturer can get rid of the blank scan lines. It is inherent to the technology.

Michael
Yeah when you are in a store watching a bad demo and are looking for flaws then you going to see "scan lines". Get the TV home , put on a nice movie and you are going to be treated to a great no fuss 3d picture. I don't no which Technology is "better" but I prefer passive. I think it is good we have choices.

Josh
post #1785 of 8099
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Originally Posted by leftyguitar1963
LG has changed the algorithm, allegedly, which does away with that.
As stated, the scan lines are inherent to the technology. Also, the reviewer for Sound & Vision was able to test the 47LW5600 with and without the new algorithm and saw no noticeable difference. It was dismissed as "academic."
post #1786 of 8099
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Originally Posted by HairyPinkElephan View Post
I'm not a videophile to any degree so forgive me if my questions are dumb. I just got the 47" set from Frys yesterday and I love it.

I was watching Cloudy with a chance of meatballs bluray last night and I noticed that in the opening when there is only black on the screen and some lettering moving across the screen, this large blob of light followed the letters around the screen. Is this what clouding is? I'm using the settings posted earlier in this thread and was watching through my PS3. I labeled my PS3 as game. It was pretty funky to see the blobs/clouds but it only happened on all black screens, the whole movie I never saw anything like it.
Yeah, welcome to edge-lit. It looks terrible doesn't it? I had to learn the hard way too. Honestly, I don't see why these TV's even sell. They all look terrible (all edge-lit lcds anyways).

Never again for me. Sometimes I think people just say there TV's are awesome because the shelled out a couple G's for them. I really don't see how this TV is so good. I mean the blacks are worse than my Sony W4100 which is 4 years old.

Oh, well.
post #1787 of 8099
I'm thinking of picking up the 47LW5600. Saw it at Best Buy the other day and was rather amazed with the 3d quality of the set. My question is, what is the difference between the 47LW5600 and the 47LW5700, 47LW5700UE. I can't seem to find anything on the 47LW5700 except for the ads in Best Buy and Futureshop. Thanks for any input on this.
post #1788 of 8099
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Originally Posted by leftyguitar1963 View Post

@Killerz928>>

In Chad's Review "The down side to all this contrast goodness is that black bars on letterbox movies showed some fluctuation. On 2.40:1 movies, if there was a bright object in the lower left corner of the screen, then that quarter or so of the bottom black bar lightened. This effect was noticeable only in a dark room. I also saw that a black screen was not illuminated evenly, with cloudy areas throughout the screen. These could be serious flaws is you prefer to watch wide aspect ratio movies in a dark room. Thankfully, the side effects of the zone dimming disappeared for the most part when the room lighting was normal. I could still see the black bars fluctuate if I looked for it, but it wasn't distracting. "

>>>This is the very reason i took back my Sony XBR46HX909. IMO, you're going to get this sort of thing with all LD, whether full array or edge-lit, so if this kind of thing is a deal breaker you should opt for a plasma. I would've taken the 5600 back too, if it wasn't for the way it resolves 3d, which is exceptional! So, I try to at least have 1 light on in the room & the 5600 is more than adequate.

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Originally Posted by Tapioca Cold View Post

Yeah, welcome to edge-lit. It looks terrible doesn't it? I had to learn the hard way too. Honestly, I don't see why these TV's even sell. They all look terrible (all edge-lit lcds anyways).

Never again for me. Sometimes I think people just say there TV's are awesome because the shelled out a couple G's for them. I really don't see how this TV is so good. I mean the blacks are worse than my Sony W4100 which is 4 years old.

Oh, well.

Can someone take some pictures of this set in a dark room? I want to get a grip on just how bad we are talking.
post #1789 of 8099
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Originally Posted by mrfatboy View Post

I just switched my settings from 16:9 to "just scan". I can see a noticable Improvement in PQ. This tv gets better and better as i dial it in

Changed my aspect ration to just scan and didn't see any difference in the picture. I did notice that the black bars on 2.35:1 aspect movie I was watching
became wider when using the just scan setting. Anyone else have that result ?
post #1790 of 8099
Would someone send me the LG 3D demo link too? Many thanks!
post #1791 of 8099
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Originally Posted by bbsstuff View Post

Changed my aspect ration to just scan and didn't see any difference in the picture. I did notice that the black bars on 2.35:1 aspect movie I was watching
became wider when using the just scan setting. Anyone else have that result ?

Thats normal and correct. 16x9 creates overscan, which is best used when watching cable/sat programming that introduces additional information(usually at the top of the screen)which isnt meant to be seen.

just scan is 1:1, which displays the picture without any scaling.
post #1792 of 8099
Anyone having a problem playing sound on the LG 3D Demo. When I play the demo (MKV file) on my PC the sound is fine but when I try to play it on the TV there is no sound except for a periodic burst sound. I tried this through both USB and PLEX media server. I also have movie DVD's I have ripped to PLEX and the sound is fine on the TV but on DVD's that I have converted from VHS tape and then ripped there is also no sound. Used MakeMKV to rip the DVD's. Can't figure this out.
post #1793 of 8099
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Originally Posted by mrfatboy View Post

what settings did you use? I can't seem to make it work.

1. Make sure you connected the HDMI output of your AVR to HDMI 1 input of the LG. That is the only input that supports ARC.
2. Turn on ARC Mode in the Options menu.
3. Make sure your AVR supports ARCs and is set up to enable the ARC
4. Turn on SIMPLINK and change the speaker setting to Home Theater

If this is all properly set, your volume control on the TV or set top box remote should be able to set the volume on the AVR
post #1794 of 8099
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Originally Posted by sadmaker View Post

just scan is 1:1, which displays the picture without any scaling.

This must be one of the things that is activated when you apply the "PC" input label, then, 'cuz the same thing (essentially) happens on the Xbox.)

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Originally Posted by bbsstuff View Post

Anyone having a problem playing sound on the LG 3D Demo. When I play the demo (MKV file) on my PC the sound is fine but when I try to play it on the TV there is no sound except for a periodic burst sound.

I have the same problem, and Popcorn Audio Converter isn't able to convert the file because the audio track is allegedly already AC3.
post #1795 of 8099
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Originally Posted by mrfatboy View Post

I just converted the LG 3D demo (original MKV) to a MP4 file and the sound now works!


I used this free video converter.

http://www.freemake.com/free_video_converter/

I used this to convert the LG demo to MPEG4 (along with some other 3D clips) and still have no sound so I guess I'll play around with some of the other formats this evening, that is unless someone here can tell me what I'm doing wrong, lol!
post #1796 of 8099
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Originally Posted by bbsstuff View Post

Anyone having a problem playing sound on the LG 3D Demo. When I play the demo (MKV file) on my PC the sound is fine but when I try to play it on the TV there is no sound except for a periodic burst sound. I tried this through both USB and PLEX media server. I also have movie DVD's I have ripped to PLEX and the sound is fine on the TV but on DVD's that I have converted from VHS tape and then ripped there is also no sound. Used MakeMKV to rip the DVD's. Can't figure this out.

Used Freemake Video Converter to convert MKV to MP4 and sound now works. Thanks.
post #1797 of 8099
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Originally Posted by rarjar View Post

I used this to convert the LG demo to MPEG4 (along with some other 3D clips) and still have no sound so I guess I'll play around with some of the other formats this evening, that is unless someone here can tell me what I'm doing wrong, lol!

Jeez, I feel like a dumb arse! Just now realized that I have my TV speakers turned off (the satellite and blu-ray player go through my sound system), so when I play the converted demos through the TV's pen drive connection, guess what, no sound. I think I'll try the converted demos tonight with the TV speakers on, lol!
post #1798 of 8099
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Originally Posted by Michael2000 View Post

Passive is a great alternative, but as long as passive is half resolution, with black scan lines separating the active ones, active glasses will still be preferred by some consumers.

Michael

That's why I quoted "glasses". By putting the shutter on the TV, you eliminate most of the issues associated with current active glasses technology. Another issue I failed to mention is interoperability of active 3D glasses. Standardized active 3D glasses would've helped with cost and acceptance. Cost and convenience will win out most of the time when comes to most consumers.

Samsung suppose to release 55" 3D TV using RDZ in 2012... that's why I said active "glasses" are dead. If you get one now, you better accept that you may not be able to get replacement glasses in the future.
post #1799 of 8099
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Originally Posted by Tapioca Cold View Post

Yeah, welcome to edge-lit. It looks terrible doesn't it? I had to learn the hard way too. Honestly, I don't see why these TV's even sell. They all look terrible (all edge-lit lcds anyways).

Never again for me. Sometimes I think people just say there TV's are awesome because the shelled out a couple G's for them. I really don't see how this TV is so good. I mean the blacks are worse than my Sony W4100 which is 4 years old.

Oh, well.

Maybe most people came from older TV? Yes, edge-lit isn't very good if you look at the dark scenes against a plasma for a backlit local dimming LED/LCD TV. In most scenes, this TV looks pretty good though. I am used to watching the older 55LH90, which is a backlit local-dimming with about 80 zones, and it's not even close between the two. The LW5600 is my interim TV, I am waiting for something that's bigger and uses backlit local dimming.
post #1800 of 8099
Frys in San Diego had about 30 of these (the 55LW5600) on the sales floor, but they were priced at $1800. Any idea if the sale will be back on anytime soon for $1200. Really interested in purchasing this TV.
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